The Shame of A City?

I really thought Karen Carter was going to win last night, and not just because of the polls showing her up by double digits a few weeks ago. I honestly thought that the corruption issues surrounding Jefferson would cause blowback against him that would lead virtually any Democrat to victory in this district. How naïve I was, especially considering the city in which I reside. When Carter did not win, the first thing that came to mind was the 2003 mayoral election in Philadelphia. During that campaign, which was neck and neck in early October, John Street managed to blow the race wide open by playing the victim after it was revealed that the FBI had a bug in his office. Riding a wave of Philadelphia sympathy against the federal government at the time--the Bush administration was never popular here--Street ended up cruising to a twenty-point victory. I voted for him myself, after being quite suspicious of anything the FBI and the Bush administration was doing at the time (of course, I would have voted for street anyway, because he won the Democratic primary. I just wouldn't have been so happy about doing so).

There was another aspect of the way Street played the victim, besides a general anti-progressive sentiment against the Bush administration. The revelation of the FBI bug in his office helped to solidify his African-American base during the election. Virtually every member of the Democratic machine claimed that the reason the FBI was wiretapping Street's office was because he was black. In a country where African-Americans have often been unfairly persecuted by governmental authorities, and during a time when the federal government wasn't exactly viewed as friendly toward either African-Americans or dissenters of any sort (the Clinton impeachment was only four years in the past at that point), viewing Mayor Street as the victim, rather than as corrupt, probably wasn't too difficult.

Of course, three years later, John Street's brother, a member of city council, a major member of John Street's administration have now all been indicted. There is now a movie out called The Shame of A City that details how the actually quite corrupt machine was able to cynically play the victimization card in order to comfortably win the election. I will be attending a screening of the movie sponsored by mayoral candidate Michael Nutter this week. Apparently, when the movie won an award and was re-screened on the final night of the Philadelphia film festival this past spring, every member of the machine showed up, and quite a few of them laughed during a lot of the screening.

My vision of what happened in LA-02 last night may be overly colored by recent events in Philadelphia, but I really believe that this same dynamic is primarily the cause of Jefferson's truly unfortunate victory last night. To a degree even beyond Philadelphia, a city like New Orleans must have a low opinion of the federal government right now, and it also probably does not have a very high view of the Louisiana Democratic machine since its elected officials didn't appear to be much help during Katrina either. Given this, as well as the general distrust of federal authorities within the African-American community, it would not have been hard for Jefferson to portray himself as the victim in this situation, rather than as a corrupt leader who needed to be replaced. Of course, I am certain that, as with Philadelphia, it will not be long before actual indictments are handed down, and the extent of Jefferson's corruption is more fully exposed. This will be a big problem for the Democratic party, both in Louisiana and nationally.

This is a dangerous cycle for both progressives and African-Americans. We have a difficult time removing our corrupt leaders because we view their corruption not as real, but rather as a fictitious creation of a conservative movement looking to make yet another power grab. Our inability to distinguish between legitimate victims of governmental persecution and corruption within our own leadership has the potential to sow the seeds of our own undoing not long from now. Republicans and the conservative movement have made a habit of engaging in unjustified power grabs, and African-Americans have legitimate reasons to be distrustful of media reports and governmental authority (perhaps especially African-Americans in New Orleans). Still, Jefferson should have lost this campaign, and his victory is a blow toward creating the kind of government that would better serve the interests of oft-persecuted communities. I don't really know what to do except point out the problem. I know that the Philadelphia municipal elections are coming up this spring, and this is one more place where we need to make yet another stand against Democratic machines that have lost their way. I am also not going to hide the fact that I feel more than a little uncomfortable writing about this subject, but the problem isn't going away if we stay quiet. Republicans, especially those in the conservative movement, commonly think of themselves as persecuted by a liberal elite that control powerful institutions such as the media, academia, the judiciary, and the entertainment industry. Because they view themselves as persecuted by these institutions, they have been able to justify a wide range of corrupt activities in order to stay in power. Last night's election results should show that we are in danger of being trapped in the same type of corruption, justifiable because of the forces we view to be lined up against us. When that happens, our movement will destroy itself, and our government will be as unresponsive as ever. Our work will have been for nothing. We can't allow that to happen.



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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Did you read the comments along Stoller thread about what some of the local people think the race was about? I think their interpretation is interesting.


by bruh21 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 03:29:27 PM EST

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PS- part of the statements in part were a long the lines of understanding local NOLA politics. One example given was that while Jefferson was not liked, neither was Carter. She was never considered of the grassroots, etc.

The people who wrote this also said that rather than making grand statements by national bloggers such as yourself, you may want to actually ask the local people who live there what happened in the race. Maybe find a local blogger. I don't know if you have already tried and done this, but I think framing everything in big picture terms is a mistake, and I also think there are limits to what we can understand from the outside looking in.


by bruh21 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 03:32:08 PM EST
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One final pt, if the other poster is corrected- that neither candidate was liked- then this is a repeat of 2004. People didn't much like Bush, but when compared to the alternative (Kerry) they choose Bush. People vote for what they are comfortable with even if its a bad choice if they somehow think the other choice is worse. Was Carter as great a candidate locally as you think she is in terms of your own progressive checklist? That's the question in my mind.


by bruh21 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 03:34:14 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (3.00 / 3)

I've read comments on this blog that, as an African-American, I've found disturbing and elitist.

That maybe 'we', in the blogging commmunity, just had more information than those voting on the ground in New Orleans. The inference being that those on the ground were just too 'ignorant' to understand the election.

That's dangerous thinking, IMO, because I honestly believe that this blog, and others, have tried to EXPLAIN what was going on down in New Orleans, and many posting here just tried to wholesale dismiss what was explained very well.

In an ordinary place, in an ordinary times, under ordinary circumstances, I believe Dollar Bill Jefferson would have been defeated easily in a runoff.

But, these are no ordinary times, and this isn't a regular place.

This election mixed powerful clashes of race (both Black and White AND Black and Black), class (both Black and White AND Black and Black) and cultural issues.

Harold Ford was blasted on his cultural issues stands; people tried to tell many on this blog that he knew his voter base - both Black and White. Well, the same is down in LA, the Carter's 'cultural stands' absolutely left her open to be slammed.

Karen Carter had too many 'White' supporters for the Black community, and took a too 'Black' stand (her comments in When the Levees Broke) for the White-hick community that didn't want to hear it.

The Black community left in New Orleans feels UNDER SEIGE, PEOPLE.

They feel completely abandoned by their OWN COUNTRY.

They feel completely under seige by a White power structure that they believe-CORRECTLY, IMO- is trying to take their land and throw them out of their HOMES.

In case you didn't know, much of the Lower 9th Ward and other Black communities was OWNED, for the most part, by African-Americans. Those might have been 'shacks' to you, but people OWNED those shacks. And, they believe that there is a concerted effort to take their land, their homes, their LIVES, and throw them away. And, nearly ALL the faces behind that are WHITE.

So, that they'd be SUSPECT of anyone who has such obvious WHITE support behind them, shouldn't be surprising.

There is an article on Blackcommentator.com entitled ' How WHITES elected Ray Nagin Mayor of New Orleans TWICE' - it's quite insightful.

And, I won't even get into the intra-racial politics of Jefferson and Carter and how she was seen as not being ' Black enough'.

Those folks fighting for their lives down in New Orleans don't see enough WHITE voices coming to help them, telling them that things will be ok. That they're not out to get them.

Don't call them ignorant paranoids, if the conspiracy they believe to be true has all the earmarks of being true.


by rikyrah on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 03:48:11 PM EST

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I dont think its ignorance we are targeting. it is mostly frustration at people staying with the status quo. It's not something you should take personal as many of us had harsh comments for the democrats who claimed to be anti Bush and anti Iraq war, and yet voted for one of the biggest enablers of those two issues- Lieberman. Some of us lost some sympathy for soldiers families that continue to prop up Bush and Cheney who are responsible for unnecessary deaths in their ranks.  It doesn't mean we don't still honor a solider's life. Same way, we still won't lose much empathy over the suffering that happened.

Even if you think our criticism is harsh, while you are free to say so, please don't think it's because we are judging black voters more harshly. Lousiana voters of all races have not exactly distinguished themselves in elections.

I was even willing, over the course of these discussions this weekend, to suspend my distaste over corruption, as many politicians are ethically corrupt, even if not legally. But what I wanted was some kind of substantiation that Jefferson had a positive record of achievement for his folk that would make us understand why they would not put a high priority on corruption scandals as they were starving for some kind of competence at their needs being met.I did not see that. All I read was Jefferson portraying himself as a victim. I did not even see any examples of Jefferson portraying himself as a crusader for their rights during Katrina that would make people overlook his corruption.  

I agree getting endorsements of a Pelosi would not help a Carter. But why weren't the CBC leaders compelled to stay out of this race since both politicians were black?  Is there something about Jefferson's history that I am missing? How is that different from Democratic leaders shamelessly helping out Lieberman behind the scenes?


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:30:33 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

You accused the voters there of whining.


by bruh21 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:56:59 PM EST
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And you accused some of us of racism which you have not bothered to elaborate on since my reply. Which is worse? While my comment was inartful, it did have some basis in what I felt and I immediately clarified what I was thinking. Yet you ignored every clarification I have issued since then.

Yet you selectively hang on to this quote in every single reply because you are unwilling or unable to address 90% of my concerns.


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:03:50 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

I said its borderline racism the way you approached it.  I don't need understand  or respond the rest of what you have to say if what is motivating it is a condescension to the voters. You can keep saying untl you are blue in the face that the rest of your post is somehow of more relevance, and I will keep repeating, you don't get to call the voters there whiners after what they have been through. Until you get this, I will keep pointing out that is what you said.  The poster above agrees with me that there is a certain holier than thou attitude that is being exuded by the posts here. Calling someone a whiner is condescencion, and borderline racism at its worst. Especially, considering whenever AAs say anything they are accused of as complaining.   I have seen some interesting posts that tried to get at what was happening on the ground there. I don't pretend as you do to know the specifics.  I just know you aren't coming from a place of trying to find out, so much as judge the voters without knowing the nature of their choice.


by bruh21 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 06:03:07 PM EST
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So what fact based reasonsing did you use for saying "the way i approached it" indicated racism?

My use of the term whining was a little broad, but at least it was based on the fact that I applied it to people who like to complain but then vote in a corrupt guy. You may think that's harsh, and you are entitled to your opinion.

What fact did you use? Did you notice that in the past I have been easier on white voters? Do my old postings give you any kind of clue? Dont tell me you didnt see us use similar language when people voted for Bush in 2004. I even used an example of how we lost empathy for Cheney's supporters among solider's families because they chose to keep a guy responsible for their problems. Same with CT voters. And if you didnt remember, I laid it all out nicely for you in my replies. Yet you ignore it under the guise of you not getting past the whining commment because then you will have to take back the racism comment because it is not fact based in any form.
Show me the fact based reasoning on that. And if I remember, you worked in a law firm? No wonder my opinion of lawyers as overpaid continues when I deal with people like you.


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 07:47:34 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

either you get what i have said or you don't. and if you think calling voters whiners is fact based, it's clear that you don't. you do whatever you need to make what you said right with yourself, just don't expect me or anyone else to fall for it no matter how many times you post.


by bruh21 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 09:29:13 PM EST
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I can be stubborn too. (none / 0)

And yet you somehow have the time to keep replying to my comments. I should try your own tactic when I do not have a good answer to some crap I may have uttered in haste - "Either you get it or you don't. You are illogical. I am not. Peace"


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 09:53:25 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

I haven't written here, but I have on other blogs about my disgust at the CBC for NOT taking a neutral-stance with regards to Dollar Bill.

They didn't have to come out for him.

It would have been ' too much ' for them to do 'right' and come out against him. If they had kept their mouths and wallets shut about him, I would have been satisfied. That they pulled out their wallets for them disappointed me greatly.


by rikyrah on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:53:56 PM EST
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I will agree with your original comment in one big area. The disenfranchisement of the common voter over there. They need a lot better options over there. It is sad that the frontrunner as an alternative to Blanco is that Jindal guy. I can understand why many people stayed home instead of voting. So I hope you don't take my prevous reply to you as repudiating  lot of  what you were saying.


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 07:52:52 PM EST
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They feel completely under seige by a White power structure that they believe-CORRECTLY, IMO- is trying to take their land and throw them out of their HOMES.

If some voters really wanted to validate those fears, then choosing not to have a congressman is the way to do it.  They will find more of those fears successfully realized.

Normally I would feel more sympathetic but this is the day after the election where they chose to stab the new Democratic majority in the back.  That Democratic majority is one of the few things keeping my community from being put downwind from real nuclear waste and real fallout the Bush administration wants to experiment with.  

New Orleans wants to play the corrupt Republican game more than it wants help rebuilding?  Then we'll just get along with New Orleans.  Cut Jefferson out of the Democratic caucus entirely: no committee assignments and no seniority.


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by Brian Watkins on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:33:46 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

I've made the observations. Hopefully you will receive better reception than what I got.


by bruh21 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:55:03 PM EST
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It is not a white power structure it is "the" power structure which also includes many blacks. Insofar as I know there are few if any people in positions of power of any race who are not connected to the power structure. People are frustrated because they can see what is happening but there is nothing they can do about it and no one they can turn to. Perhaps of the choices in LA-2 more people thought Jefferson would help them than Carter.  

It really is disturbing to see so many people say if voters do not vote the way "we" want then they should be punished and left to fend for themselves. There are a total of 4 Democrats in the House from LA and MS Jefferson, Melancon, Taylor, and Thompson. Those are the only people on the House side that residents in the Katrina area will be able to turn to for help. Regardless of what problems Jefferson may have it does not change the needs the people he represents will have in the future as they try to find a way to survive.  


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by robliberal on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 06:05:30 PM EST
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I (mostly) agree with this (none / 0)

And I'm white, and I live in New Orleans.
by localroger on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 10:11:20 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

I don't think it's a racial issue, though I agree with you that the tone and appreciation of the situation on the ground may have been off-target.

I didn't see a whole lot on blogs or from the Carter campaign that was focusing on how any charges of corruption would have prevented Jefferson from delivering for his district for example.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with New Orleans specifically or with race specifically.  This is how blogs operate and it isn't such a bad thing overall.  The whole premise is that we're paying more attention than most people have the time or interest for, and so we're going to be better informed.  Granted, that tends to have an air of elitism at times, but it grows out of frustration because, well, people don't listen to "us."

This blog sent Tim Tagaris down there in the hope that we could understand what's going on day-to-day, hoping to learn about the history, hoping to understand the district.  Perhaps that wasn't as successful as you would have liked, but when you compare the effort put in here compared to the federal government, state government of Louisiana, any other established media outlet or any everyday conversation going on in this country, this and other blogs have displayed, I think, good progress in the right direction in attempting to honestly learn about and engage post-Katrina New Orleans and the political ramifications.

Is it perfect? Not by a long shot. Can more be done? Mountains more. Was everyone around here honestly trying to do the right thing in the right way? Pretty much, yeah. I think it's dangerous to assume that the people of the district are inherently behaving properly because it's their district. I see nothing in the post suggesting that Carter supporters/Jefferson opponents ran a flawless effort to inform and gain voter support and then the voters were just stupid. I read Chris' post and take away that we need to do a better job of refining the message to the district's ears.

I do wonder, in all sincerity, if you could explain to me the seeming contradiction that the African American community in New Orleans are wary of trusting anyone with too much "white" support and yet are most upset because they aren't receiving enough "white" support?


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 12:04:40 PM EST
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I do wonder, in all sincerity, if you could explain to me the seeming contradiction that the African American community in New Orleans are wary of trusting anyone with too much "white" support and yet are most upset because they aren't receiving enough "white" support?**

I will try, using the wretched excuse of a Mayor, Ray Nagin.

Nagin, before he ran for mayor the first time, was an actual REPUBLICAN. An actual, registered Black Republican in the Deep South. Ray Nagin's backers - financial and political - were WHITE. This isn't debatable, it's fact. Ray Nagin was NOT elected with any sizeable Black support, the first time around.

And, because of that, he was seen a ' Suspect' by the general Black community. Nagin was an outsider. He was outside the regular Black Democratic machine of New Orleans.

Up until Katrina, Nagin was considered ' The WHite Man's Mayor' of New Orleans.

Then, Katrina happened.

And, those who were abandoned in New Orleans were left with nothing.

They've lost everything. As I wrote before, the Lower 9th Ward and other African-American communities had a HIGH PERCENTAGE of HOME OWNERS. They didn't rent that land, they OWNED it. Which was the reason why the White power structure had been unable to get them out of that land all these years.

But Katrina changed all of that. Their land, combined with an openly hostile GOP- remember Hastert's comments about ' WHY should we rebuild New Orleans', then the latest SC Decision about allowing private property to be taken by the state for PRIVATE development, as well as opening salvos from the White COmmunity - I'll not forget reading the Wall Street Journal where it was just plainly stated that the Blacks were NOT welcome back. That they were part of N.O. HISTORY - And that's all.

They were already knew that White Republicans wanted them gone. It was the NON-defense by White Democrats that they had helped put into office, which was a harsh blow.

Nobody wanted to help them. There they were Americans, being abandoned by Americans, on American soil. Being spurned, thrown away at every turn.

Then, the only one who actually said that they were welcome back to their homes is - yep, Ray Nagin. Black people, in general, are forgiving of their own. Especially when they believe they've made a change of heart, and 'seen the light'. No, they didn't trust Nagin before, but here they thought, he had been abandoned by his White Benefactors - thus, thrust back into his ' Blackness', and ' seen the light', and would fight for his people.

Do I believe that to be true?

Hell no. Ray Nagin is as much a Lawn Jockey for those White interests who elected him in the first place, and I would have voted for the Landreau, because I believe he would have figured out a way to at least slice a portion of the money being sent to New Orleans back to those who need it. Nagin is such an incompetent that when it's all written, he would have betrayed those who needed his help the most - twice.

BUT, I understand those who hoped that he had seen the light and rediscovered his 'Blackness'.

Now, fast forward.

It's been over a year.

Those away from N.O., see:

  1. The place still looks like a war zone
  2. There is no governmental assistance
  3. There is no one telling them to come back home and figuring a way to help them
  4. They see the 'plans' for ' A Better New Orleans', and just 'coincidentally', All the Black areas are the LAST ones considered for re-development
  5. They SEE the landgrab going on, and the scamming taking place to give their land to WHITE developers
  6. They SEE this country talk about giving Iraqis the right to vote, and setting up satellite voting stations in THIS country, and then they turn around and see where THEY, UNITED STATES CITIZENS are being disenfranchised by the Secretary of State of LA, and NO big outcry from the other major officers of the State (White officeholders)
  7. They see, while they are told that there aren't any jobs for them to return to...THE AREA HAS BEEN FLOODED WITH ILLEGALS.

The shouting and defense, on the part of White Democrats, hasn't been loud enough for the Black community. IF the Democrats could stand up with good conscience and say, ' The GOP shot us down, but we've been trying this, this, and this', the Black community would understand. It's the silence which makes ALL White folk suspect. And those who were previously our hesitant allies, are lumped in with the known enemies.

Karen Carter had too many White faces around her. Too many that were considered at least 'allies', but had turn suspect because of their lack of vocalization. Their lack of defense.  

I hope this helped.


by rikyrah on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 09:24:01 PM EST
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Newark, 2002 (none / 0)

If you want to see a great documentary about exactly this sort of thing, watch "Street Fight" about the 2002 Newark mayoral election.

A corrupt machine politician used every dirty trick in the book to convince the city's black community that there was a media conspiracy against him, that the black man running against him (who chose to live in the worst neighborhood in Newark) wasn't black enough, and won re-election over an honest, hard-working man of true vision, dedicated to civil rights and black political empowerment.

It really is an amazing movie. Don't worry though, the good guy won in 2006.


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by msnook on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 03:56:48 PM EST

Re: Newark, 2002 (3.00 / 1)

Well, I wouldn't call Cory Booker a 'good guy'. The jury is out on him. He has WAY too many ' friends' that couldn't be considered anything other than enemies of the Black community. This isn't subjective - his 'backers' are people who have actively been against the mainstream of the Black community supports.

IF Mr. Booker stands up to those backers and works for the community that elected him, my skepticism will wane.

But, up until that time, his 'friends' make him suspect.


by rikyrah on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:11:45 PM EST
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yes and no (none / 0)

Booker may have been the better choice for everyone, and I know Sharpe made a lot of enemies, so even if conservatives supported Booker, that doesn't mean he's against the black community. Business interests definitely know how to play the game of the lesser of two evils.

You're right though, that it does mean we have to watch out. I, for one, like Booker regardless, just because he seems to believe in Democracy and the rule of law, but for those who live there, and whose material concerns outweigh their concern for democratic propriety, it's certainly a different issue.


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by msnook on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 06:48:08 AM EST
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Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (none / 0)

     It has a Democratic legislature that passed a strong anti-abortion bill. It has a feckless Democratic governor who signed it, and who proved completely incapable in the Katrina aftermath. She got elected only because of her opponent's skin color. It has a laughably ineffective Blue Dog senator in Mary Landrieu, and a laughably ineffective pro-business mayor of New Orleans in Ray Nagin, who first got elected with mainkly white support in 2001.
     As with most of the deep South, we fought for 40 years to try to build a biracial progressive Democratic Party in Louisiana, and the result is an utter failure. If we expect Bush to recognize and deal with failure in Iraq, shouldn't we do the same ourselves when dealing with Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Georgia?
by Ron Thompson on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:10:08 PM EST

Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (none / 0)

The man was found with $90,000 in marked bills in his freezer.  I have a hard time justifying, at least in my mind, another dollar in levy fixing.

If this is the best LA can do, well then, what W has done is the best they get.

I don't care about the whitey blackie let's show 'em mentality.  I care about embarrassing the Dems and those that care about LA.  As for me, I no longer care.

DrJohn


by DrJohn on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:38:05 PM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (3.00 / 4)

OK, I can't take this sitting down.

I am GODDAMN FED UP with having the 'prove' that I am a citizen of this country and that my city must 'prove' to you people that we 'deserve' a 'hand out' to fix the levee system that the FEDERAL army corp of engineers admit suffered from multiple significant design flaws.

Why don't we all just play Santa and make us a list of all good and deserving citizens? You are going to dump us all because a few thousand people didn't vote the right way?

I got no problem with the hand wringing and despair that comes from how my fellow idiotic residents, playing politics and playing stupid have handed the democratic congress a headache we sure as hell didn't need. But damn it, we ain't orphan's with the little porrige bowl out. We are citizens of this country and when you turn your back on us, you are turning your back on yourself.


by lb0313 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:39:41 PM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (none / 0)

     I'm not turning my back on anybody. I'm simply saying that there are about 40-45 states where the netroots can invest its time and money with a better prospect of electing progressives than in Louisiana, and that the Democratic party in Louisiana is so corrupt and reactionary that a party and movement with finite resources should deploy them where there's a greater prospect of success, like the Southwest, Midwest, Upper South, and Florida. We won't be any poorer without the likes of William Jefferson, Kathleen Blanco, Mary Landrieu, and John Breaux in our ranks. If Louisiana progressives can establish that they can have a discernable impact on politics there, I'm sure there'll be plenty of support from the netroots and the national party. But that simply isn't the case now.


by Ron Thompson on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 06:01:16 PM EST
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Southern Netroots Site (none / 0)

One of the reasons we have started a Southern netroots site BlueSunbelt.Com this month is so people in the Sunbelt states can organize. Those of us who live in this area want to see changes made.

There are great opportunities for Democrats to make gains in both Louisiana and Mississippi especially in 2008 because of Katrina. I hope the Democratic Party will stick with Howard Dean's 50 state strategy and does not return to a 15 or 20 state strategy.


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by robliberal on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 06:12:47 PM EST
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    Respectfully, Rob, it is not a fair characterization of my position to call it a 15 or 20 state strategy. It is a 45 or 46 state strategy.

    As a Democrat, do you want the Republicans to spend money on Massachusetts, New York and California, or would you prefer that they spend it in Ohio and Missouri and Colorado? I'd be happy to see them spending in places they can never win.

    And for now, at least, Louisiana doesn't seem to be a place where we can look for any support for a progressive candidate for President, the Senate, or the House. Better to take the money we would otherwise spend in Louisiana and spend it in Missouri or Ohio or Colorado. That means taking the money we would otherwise waste on Mary Landrieu and Kathleen Blanco, and spending it on Mark Udall or the races for governor of Kentucky in 2007 and Missouri in 2008.


by Ron Thompson on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 10:48:23 PM EST
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Re: Southern Netroots Site (none / 0)

I disagree with the many in the blogosphere and DC who think it is a waste of money to try to do anything in the South. I saw that with Gore and Kerry and both lost even though there were some states where they would have had a chance if they had spent money and campaigned.

I look at democracy as inclusive of everyone in every tiny hole in the road town in every state and I think political parties and movements should be inclusive as well. In politics you cannot win unless you run candidates and support them. That does not mean that you divert money from other states and races to support lost causes but there should be a carefully determined list of priorities that includes targets in every state.

Howard Dean has done a good job of implementing the 50 state strategy and I do hope it will continue.


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by robliberal on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 11:11:12 PM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (3.00 / 2)

I'm not turning my back on anybody. I'm simply saying that there are about 40-45 states where the netroots can invest its time and money with a better prospect of electing progressives than in Louisiana

NO, Ron, what you said was:

I have a hard time justifying, at least in my mind, another dollar in levy fixing.

Which is basically saying you literally want our city and our people to die because we didn't vote the way you wanted to.  You want to extort votes by withholding critical infrastructure and security from a part of the country where the people don't agree with your politics.  Which is exactly the kind of arrogant hateful crap that people like Pat Robertson trot out every time a "godless" city is hit by a natural disaster, and which is the kind of elitist bullshit that will continue to doom the netroots in this part of the country.


by ray in new orleans on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 07:31:51 PM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (none / 0)

No, that was DrJohn. Ron's innocent of that one.

However, unilaterally giving up on a state is ridiculous. If you can't win at the federal level, you start off by getting progressives elected at the lower state levels, make sure progressive politics is seen so it can't be falsely characterised by the right wing and try to create a more liberal political atmosphere.

If you don't do that then all the progressives who live in Louisiana aren't going to have anything to do and the movement there atrophies. And it gets made to semm to be a coastal liberal movement, so the south and the midwest and the mountain west doesn't vote for it.

Sure, in presidential races, Louisiana will be hard to win, more than ever post-Katrina. But there are plenty of other things where it is worth fighting hard in states like Louisiana.


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by Englishlefty on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 08:40:52 PM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (none / 0)

Apologies to Ron on that.  And for DrJohn...jeezus, bra, you need to change that handle.  The one and only Mac Rebennack would be disgusted with your attitude.


by ray in new orleans on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 08:56:38 PM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (none / 0)

Bless you my dear


by lb0313 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 10:03:08 PM EST
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AMEN BROTHER /nt (none / 0)


by localroger on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 10:14:22 PM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give (none / 0)

The people of this Nation owe it to the people of New Orleans and Louisiana to not just rebuild New Orleans, but to build a better New Orleans.  

We have had cities ravaged by disaster before, and we did NOT give up on them.  San Francisco was destroyed in, I think, 1904.  My own Chicago in 1877.

I appreciate your comment lb0313, and I want to see your city rebuilt.  And if that means giving Dollar Bill the power to help in that, so be it.  


by JJCPA on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 12:30:48 AM EST
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Re: Shouldn't We Give Up On Louisiana? (none / 0)

By that logic, we would have given up on the entire country in 2004.  We don't give up on anywhere.  We simply recognize that we have further to go in some areas.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 12:06:04 PM EST
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More Evidene of Corruption--The Lee Connection (none / 0)

Stoller notes the role of Sheriff Harry Lee.  It just so happens that quite by accident (I rarely listen to NPR) I heard an effusive portrait of Lee on NPR's All Things Considered recently (I think it was ATC, might have been Morning Edition, though--I remember the freeway I was on, not the time of day).

They talked about his yearly fundraiser dinner/celebration much the same way that ET might talk about Hollywood stars raising money to fight AIDs, as if it was all just a giant gala affair put on for the good of all.  They even mentioned--as if there were nothing problematic about it--how Lee uses the money raised to "help other politicians" (that's a paraphrase, accurately capturing tone, not  necessarily wording).

In short, the picture NPR conveyed--entirely with realizing it, of course, was one of open, blatant, even celebrated corruption.  After all, Lee has never been seriously challenged for re-election, so every bit of money given to him is given to curry favor and enable him to do whatever he will in building his own political empire.

Accountability?  There is none.

Oh, and the story also described how Lee has no one to answer to for his budget, job performance or policies.  Except for recourse to lawsuits, he is completely unregulated by any higher authority.

Nice.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:19:36 PM EST

Chris has it right (none / 0)

When he says that

This is a dangerous cycle for both progressives and African-Americans.

For a start, the Dems decided to run on the culture of corruption tag (at the start of the year, at least) - the impression given was that the leadership thought it was a slam dunk, more or less.

Then along came Jefferson and Mollohan, with a side order of Hastings.

The big structural problem is that the biggest element of corruption in Congressional politics is (in most cases) legal: the provision of campaign contributions with something short of a quid pro quo coming back in the other direction.

For reasons of sheer naked politics, rather than legal principle, no attempt is made by the Feds to attack that sort of corruption.

It's shaky ground, therefore, for a political leadership to take a stand on.

But - to adapt from the Fenians - the Dem leadership's difficulty is the CBC's opportunity.

Pelosi gave the impression of being unsure whether to conciliate the CBC (by kinda sorta promising the HIC chair to Hastings) or laying down the law to it (by kicking Jefferson off Ways and Means).

When sanity prevailed over Hastings, almost straight afterwards (as I recall), the CBC announces that it's backing Jefferson in the LA-2 runoff.

They seem more than happy right now to play a game of brinkmanship with Pelosi, to test out her resolve in dealing even-handedly with the various sections of the House party.

Now, I can't really blame Pelosi for putting off the evil day of a confrontation with the CBC: the last thing she would have wanted to do was to jeopardize the best chance of retaking Congress in years by putting her foot down in an election year.

But the election is over, and the Dems won. I suspect that now may be the optimum time to get the leadership's relationship with the CBC on a fair and sane footing. Which I reckon means Jefferson getting no committee assignments (and preferably being kicked out of the caucus) and the CBC sucking it up.

(Pelosi can, of course, point to their having scored three chairmanships, and not bad ones either. I get the feeling that Dem leaderships have in the past been unwilling to make such points to the CBC!)

Time, I think, for the Lioness to bare her teeth and (if necessary) draw some blood.


by skeptic06 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:36:55 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (3.00 / 2)

When watching the Shame of the City, keep in mind a couple things:

1)Its hero, Sam Katz, was found guilty of swindling his business partners out of 2 million dollars.  He is not exactly a saint.

2)Another star, Brien Tierney, is the GOP operative who bought the Inquirer, and is now trying to squeeze local reporters even more, and threatening more layoffs.

3)Mike Nutter, while seemingly a good guy, was toasted last night by the Chester County Chamber of Commerce (fresh off their ringing endorsement of Santorum) as someone who "gets it," probably due to his strident advocacy for corporate tax cuts in the City.  Generally, whatever a regressive Chamber wants me to "get," I send the other way.


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by DanielUA on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:55:57 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

At the same time, Brady, Johnny Doc and (to some extent) Fattah do come off as silly, even perhaps irresponsible.

Yes, as we were watching it here Friday night, I did have to mention to Jen "but he was found liable on those lawsuits."


by Adam B on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:02:49 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Thanks for pointing these facts out.

Also, even if there was no political motivation behind "the bug", I believe there was and is a concerted effort by the Bush DoJ to target Democratic officials all over the country for investigation - the Abramoff investigation not withstanding which has also been run by the career lawyers at DoJ.


by phillydem on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 04:40:14 AM EST
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Well Black leaders need to be treated fairly (none / 0)

THe gist of my comments on this topic has been pretty much criticising the voters and especially, the Democratic Party leaders, either the CBC , or the local strongmen, who supported a corrupt guy blatantly caught. But I also wanted to put in perspective that corruption would be taken more seriously if the party shoed more of a commitment to fighting ethical corruption and not just legal corruption. While I understand to some extent why people do not see much of a difference between explicit corruption Jefferson indulged in and the business as usual ethical corruption by our politicians in DC, it is still not good reason for me to vote for the guy.

While I criticise the CBC for not taking a strong stand against Jefferson. one should also be ready to condemn the Democratic Party for not being concerned with Lieberman's slush fund or other similar examples of lobbyists rewarding spouses or kids of democratic party politicians.

And as for the us vs them, while I do not see it as a good enough reason in this case, the black vs white thing still has validity. When Maxine Waters and Sharpton were singled out by Lieberman  for criticism, not one Democratic Party leader came to their defense and admonished Lieberman for preferring the likes of Hannity to the likes of Waters. When black leaders stood up against the shenanigans in FL in 2000, the white Democratic Party establishment did nothing to show their solidarity with them.

So while I am with many bloggers here who are not ready to give voters and local Dem leaders in LA a pass, I will not dismiss my longstanding issues with the lip service some of the Dem establishment gives to race relations.


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 04:57:42 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

I thought there was a slim chance that Jefferson could pull this off. This was based on a few factors like the re-election of Nagin and our inability to unseat, or closeness in races, to replace corrupt/tainted Gop politicians in a number of districts in '06.
Add LA history on their willingness to give corrupt politicians a pass, though its not just LA, it happens nationwide.
Corruption or the accusation of it is evidently not a strong enough issue to rely on the Voters to sort it all out and do the right thing.
It is thoroughly frustrating and very disillusioning.
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by Predictor on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:38:24 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Unfortunately, based on the recent election experience I just had, I believed all along that Jefferson would be re-elected.

For a fact: No state or federal incumbent was changed in this last election. NONE.

It was my assumption that the people of New Orleans would be so angry about the way they had been treated and their city nearly destroyed that they would rise up in righteous wrath and 'throw the bastards out'!

How wrong. And from my point of view a long physical distance away a result I don't understand.

I appreciate the comments from those in New Orleans. I would like to hear more.

Tim Tagaris! Heads Up. You can be a great reporter for us, if you still there, by doing some 'Man on the Street' interviews. Maybe with more first hand information we can gather a better understanding of this highly different place.


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by BigDog on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:53:07 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Well said.
It makes me question the ongoing CW that Blanco-D or Landrieu-D are toast over Katrina.
Although the loss of traditional Black Democratic Voters in LA is a real consideration, they may not be in as much danger as some have been thinking, after all, Nagin-D/R got re-elected.
The fact that FL-16 was so close and that we didn't get rid of Reynolds or Hastert or replace Duke Cunningham with a Dem were most disappointing. Old habits die hard.

Though McNerney,Space,Gillibrand,Lampson,Hall, Carney and Sestak helped buffer the disappointments.
Word is that Jerry Lewis CA-41 & DooLittle CA-04 may me next on the list. Both are overwhelmingly Gop Districts though, Charlie Brown-D came close in CA-04.


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by Predictor on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 06:29:10 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Predictor:

Sen. Landrieu comes from a long political dynasty in Louisiana and I seriously doubt she's in any kind of trouble. While her actions are not in line with many progressives, if you look where she represents and check the last election stats you can see that perhaps she is representing her state, even if that isn't in a reality many would like.

Gov. Blanco, according to everyone I talk to, IS toast. She already announced her re-election run and Bobby Jindhal, LA-1, (who stomped all over us with an 88% victory), has announced that he will announce in Jan. He waited a whole week before he abandoned LA-1 to the reality of not having a Congressman but a politician running for the highest office in his state. No wonder he refused all debates.

The Blanco election is in 2007 and everyone seems to believe she's gotten herself in such a deep hole that there is no way out. Republicans and likely some Democrats will be gunning for her.

Hell I tried for over a month and half just to get someone from her office to return a call! As I was representing the only announced Democratic Candidate in LA-1 you would have thought that wouldn't be a problem.

Never happened. She is surrounded by an impossible wall of incredible incompetence. I've never experienced anything like it.

I've got lots of stories like that about the Party, with their KKK symbol trucks in the parking lot, the Union locals that never returned calls even after their State President promised the contribution and the more about the Governor's office and the Governor.

Personally, I think I know the Dem that will announce against her and if that person does she's 100% dust.

Frankly I think she's probably earned it. She may be the only really vulnerable politician in Louisiana.


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by BigDog on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 09:09:42 PM EST
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Landrieu is toast, Jindal is an idiot (none / 0)

Landrieu has no chance. She has won two elections now (one as an incumbent) by skin-of-her-teeth margins, and with the post-K demographic shift she won't pull it out. Unless the R's run a real actual reptile with visible scales and sulphur breath, the suburbanites will toss her out.

Jindal cannot win a statewide election because he's east-not-native Indian. He's also a nerd/wonk. Blanco beat him by sitting in a pirogue and talking to the sportsmen. Perhaps oddly I think he could take NOLA because those are mostly educated Republicans, but Sam and Bubba up in north Louisiana already voted for a woman in favor of the darkie and they'll do it again. As long as the Democratic candidate is sufficiently non-foreign compared to Jindal they'll vote for him or her too.

by localroger on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 10:23:56 PM EST
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Re: Landrieu is toast, Jindal is an idiot (none / 0)

I would love to see Jindal lose. From what I heard, Jindal did OK among right wingers. Am I wrong on this? Didn't he play  the religion card well. It would be ironic if xenophobia with a dose of racism is what costs Jindal the election considering how he hard he has tried to fit into society here (changed both his name and religion before he even became an adult).

Yes, BLanco is one incumbent who might lose. But does that count as she would be replaced by a guy who held some kind of office during Katrina and did nothing special to help out people in the region. So I still don't see a real motivation to seek fresh ideas.


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 11:18:10 PM EST
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Re: Landrieu is toast, Jindal is an idiot (none / 0)

Jindal is running for Governor? Sorry, but I can't see him winning.

Blanco might lose, but it won't be to him.


by rikyrah on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 01:54:50 AM EST
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Re: Landrieu is toast, Jindal is an idiot (3.00 / 1)

Agreed if a good Dem enters the picture...however latest poll in New Orleans paper has Jindhal up by 2-1.

If there is any other competitor I don't think Jindhal can win either.

And never count out the Landrieu's...any of them.


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by BigDog on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 02:16:30 AM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Is there anyone in the state of LA who is willing to take the party over? Is there people power down there? Or are they forced to concentrate on survival?


by MNPundit on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:40:29 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Well, lets see - 80% of the city is gone. We still applaud a working traffic light. For 10 months I was the only person I knew with both a house and a job. When I go to vote, I now drive into a crack neighborhood full of gutted houses. It is no longer safe to walk through my neighborhood at night. In one bar I know one bartender cut up his girlfriend and boiled her. Another killed himself. I know of 2 suicides do to lack to proper psych meds. And I don't get out much

Yeah, we're a little stressed.


by lb0313 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:50:14 PM EST
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I hope the tone of your response (none / 0)

....relieved some of your stress.


by MNPundit on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 07:02:17 PM EST
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Re: I hope the tone of your response (3.00 / 2)

Come down here and lecture us on our tone.  It's too easy from your comfy chair.

This is probably the most politically active community in the country right now; it's just that we are directing our political energies in ways that more directly serve our recovery.  The fact that the national corruption issue is not at the top of our priority list may be disappointing to you, but you don't walk in our shoes.

FWIW, the Jefferson/Carter race was second in the political news to the really BIG story, which was that we finally got a bill passed giving our state a share of our oil royalties so that we can use the money for coastal restoration.  This story didn't even make a blip in the national MSM, and I'm sure the number of netroots "activists" who contacted their own representatives to advocate on our behalf on this issue could be counted on one hand, but it was a hugely important win for us.


by ray in new orleans on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 07:38:30 PM EST
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Re: I hope the tone of your response (3.00 / 3)

And it was Mary Landrieu... who one commenter above characterized as "laughably ineffective".... who did so much work to get the royalties bill passed.

And I agree with Ray in New Orleans that lecturing NOLA residents on their "tone" is unfair.


by scout prime on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 07:59:38 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

At the State Nominating 'convention' there were trucks in the parking lot with KKK symbols all over the rear windows.

Stacey Tallitsch a candidate for LA-1 saw this with his own eyes.

Most people it seems don't trust anything that has any sort of 'establishment' attached to it. And perhaps for good reason. Perhaps it's the 'devil you know' syndrome. I don't know.

I have my own post up at The Political Dogfight on the same subject. And I fully admit I don't understand any of the results.


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by BigDog on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 06:31:40 PM EST
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Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

Perhaps I am wrong in the way I look at it but I see blogging and activism as a way of helping people, educating them, and in general trying to make the world a better place. However I do not see the role of a blogger as condemning groups of people and passing judgment on the decisions they make.

There are a lot of peculiar things that happen in politics and it has always been that way. I don't understand it when moderates and progressives vote to oust a Democratic governor and install a GOP one as was the case in California but that was their choice and I respect that.


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by robliberal on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 05:55:50 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

And I fully admit I don't understand any of the results.

If people want a better understanding I suggest reading some NOLA bloggers analysis. (a few links below) Doing so would inform you  of the  issues in this election and LA politics in general.

Adrastos

Moldy  City

World Class New Orleans

People Get Ready

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by scout prime on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 06:50:33 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

I can see why the people would feel suspicious regarding any government.  I would too.  and given the politics of hate and resentment and the rise of the white bubba male, they would feel especially angry at the blame heaped on them for being too poor to leave.
However, I would think if they voted for Carter they could look at it as a fresh new beginning.  sweep away the corruption of the past that played some part, right or wrong, in the disaster after the disaster and bring in someone fresh and new.  someone to signal that the pheonix of NO is rising from the ashheap and being reborn into something new and strong.
by vwcat on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 08:16:35 PM EST

A corrupt guy got reelected. natural to vent (none / 0)

For those perturbed by the harsh reaction to the voters, may I suggest that the temperature will cool down in the next few days.

If bloggers keep harping on this election for weeks, then I can see the concern of subtle racismor classism (even if it's misplaced as it has been mentioned a few times today that some whites-and not necessarily just the trailer park variety- were opposing Carter too). The guy just re-elected this weekend. It is only natural for us to vent a little. We went through this with Bush and Lieberman.

Let us not ascribe motives unless one can show that any MYDDer in question has shown a trend in the past to selectively complain about the outrage of certain election results.


by Pravin on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 08:16:57 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

So, thanks Ray, and English Lefty and Scout

For making words where I now only feel rant.

Besides the frustration and strong desire to bash some heads together, what this post makes me wonder about more than anything is how 'wrong' I get other things that I feel to my toes with my little liberal/progressive heart. Jesus - we're supposed to be on the same side and some of the things you post sound like you are from another planet.

God knows what disservice I do to California or Mass.

Anyway - I suppose I hope we can separate the heat and heartache of an election gone wrong (and Jesus, folks, we're talking one little Rep - not the freaking President) from the big picture sense that we are here to take back out country. And that means all of it and all of us.


by lb0313 on Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 09:58:50 PM EST

Re: The Shame of A City? (none / 0)

When people in Louisiana don't know who their congressman is, they think it is Jindal.

The guy won 88% of his district against THREE democratic opponents.  That's more than Richard Lugar won (87%) against NO Democrats in Indiana.

Bobby Jindal is extremely popular and I don't know why.  He is terrifyingly conservative and will probably be a threat on the national scene before too long.

Many people still have lawn signs and stickers up from the last election.  "Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal" is especially popular.

Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, to be nice, is incomptent and is almost universally hated in Louisiana.  People will hold their nose to vote for her.  The big challenge for Louisiana Democrats is to make sure Blanco gets out of the race as soon as possible.  She will get nowhere and drag the party down behind her.


by Tall Saul on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 09:08:57 AM EST

Memphis: the New Orleans of the North (none / 0)

Interesting that no one has compared corruption in NO to that in Memphis, since the 2 cities have much in common (including being highly vulnerable to natural disaster). Memphis has its own ongoing series of corruption scandals, regularly featuring the family of Harold Ford, Jr. His uncle has just been indicted for bribery, and cast the deciding vote to keep himself and his co-defendant as active members of the City Council.

The co-defendant, Ricky Peete, is particularly interesting because he was convicted of similar charges and served federal time before being reelected to Council. He has been a very smart and effective councilman, and if he is convicted it will be a real loss to Memphis in many ways. Many here fault him only for getting caught, and more are just angry at the federal prosecutors for the sting that caught him. The favor which he sold for $12,000 would have had a minor impact (waiver of a billboard regulation).

The question of course arises as to why, beyond racism - the lead prosecutor in this case is also black - most of those recently indicted are black. One interesting comment from a black leader was that white politicians generally have more lucrative and insidious opportunities for profiting from their positions - for example, a white politician is more likely to have inherited or had the capital to invest in a construction company that gets a fat municipal contract, in exchange for political favors. Corruption in that form is harder to target, prosecute and prove.


by mmiddle on Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 12:03:11 PM EST


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