Dems Should Hold the Senate for a Decade

[Cross posted at Daily Kos]

The GOP are making idle threats about taking back the Senate in 2008. But, realistically, they have little shot at doing that barring unforeseen scandals, deaths or retirements.

The Senate seats whose terms are up in 2008 are as follows:

Ted Stevens (R) - Alaska

Jeff Sessions (R) - Alabama

Mark Pryor (D) - Arkansas

Wayne Allard (R) - Colorado

Joe Biden (D) - Delaware

Saxby Chambliss (R) -- Georgia

Tom Harkin (D) -- Iowa

Larry Craig (R) -- Idaho

Richard Durbin (D) -- Illinois

Pat Roberts (R) -- Kansas

Mitch McConnell (R) - Kentucky

Mary Landrieu (D) -- Louisiana

John Kerry (D) -- Massachusetts

Susan Collins (R) - Maine

Carl Levin (D) - Michigan

Norm Coleman (R) - Minnesota

Thad Cochran (R) - Mississippi

Max Baucus (D) Montana

Elizabeth Dole (R) - North Carolina

Charles Hagel (R)- Nebraska

John Sununu (R) - New Hampshire

Frank Lautenberg (D) New Jersey

Pete Domenici (R) - New Mexico

James Inhofe (R) Oklahoma

Gordon Smith (R) Oregon

John F. Reed (D) Rhode Island

Lindsey Graham (R) - South Carolina

Tim Johnson (D) - South Dakota

Lamar Alexander (R) - Tennessee

TX John Cornyn (R) - Texas

VA John Warner (R) - Virginia

John Rockefeller (D) - West Virginia

Mike Enzi (R) - Wyoming

A careful perusal of the list reveals a number of basic facts.

1. 20 out of the 33 seats are being defended by Republoican incumbants. So the GOP has to actually defend more seats than the Dems do.

2. The number of seats for the Dems who are at-risk basically is limited to Mark Pryor, Tim Johnson and Mary Landrieu. Of the three, I'd rate Landrieu as the most endangered Democratic incumbant, followed by Johnson then Pryor. [I'll explain why Max Baucus isn't in my list of endangered Dems below]

3. The number of GOP seats at risk is higher.

-- Susan Collins is in a very solid blue state, and cannot count on the Democrats running token opposition against her as they did against Olympia Snowe this year.

[Gov. Baldacci anyone?] -- Norm Coleman is, in my view, the TOP pick up oportunity for the Dems in 2008. [A Senator Franken would be awesome, to say the least]

-- And, the ONLY way the GOP stands a chance of retaining that seat in Virginia is if John Warner runs again. And even then I think Mark warner might be able to beat him. Mark Warner would surely defeat any other Republican who might run.

-- Wayne Allard in Colorado has to be sweating absolute bullets right now after the way the Democrats swept the state over the past couple of elections. He already has a high profile Democrat challenging him in Mark Udall. But others will surely consider it.

-- Even Pete Dominici may be at risk in New Mexico. If Gov. Bill Richardson foregoes a Presidential run, or is not on the ticket in 2008, he might run for that seat and would be a very formidable opponent for a Senator who has not run in a competitive election in over a decade.

-- In Kansas, Pat Roberts has to be shitting a brick right now. If Popular Democratic Governor, Kathleen Sebelius decides to challenge him in 2008 I think he's toast. [In fact, I think we should all encourage Gov. Sebelius to run against his ass].

Certainly there may be a few wildcards. Frank Lautenburg may retire again. As may Carl Levin of Michigan, although in Levin's case he is the incoming Chairman of the Senate Anmed Services Comittee, so unless he's got health problems, I think he's not going anywhere. Plus, if he does decide to retire, I am fairly certain that Gov. Jennifer Granholm will run for his seat.

You do also have the prospect of potentially open senate seats in Delaware and Massachusets to contend with. But I think the Dems can probably keep those seats.

If I had to guess I''d say that Mary Landrieu will get knocked off but that Pryor and Johnson will suirvive challenges. I think Norm Coleman will get taken out, as will Wayne Allard. That's a net 1 seat Dem pickup in the senate right there if everything else stays the same. But, I also think Pat Roberts could go down in Kansas as may Susan Collins. I can see recently reelected Gov. Baldacci maybe challenging Collins.

Of the seats we picked up on Tuesday, I do not see any of them being at any serious risk of returning to the GOP fold barring a major scandal. The only one that gives me pause is Claire McCaskill. But Sheldon Whitehouse will hold that seat as long as he wants. As will, I think, Sherrod Brown, Bob Casey, Jr., and John Tester. And who's got the chops on the GOP side challenge Jim Webb? I think Montana, state wide, is becoming more blue every day. That's why I didn't put Max Baucus on the endangered list, even though former Gov. Mark Racicot is the odds on favorite to challenge him in 2008.

So, at worst, I think the Dems break even in 2008 in the Senate and retain narrow control. If there is a very good Democratic ticket, and we win the Presidency, I see the Dems picking up maybe 2-3 more Senate seats.

What do you all think?

UPDATE: Kos Diarist Hawesdawg also posted on this topic earlier. And focuses on New Hampshire, which I neglcted to list as a potential poick up opportunity for the Dems as well. The Granite state turned a deep shade of blue on Tuesday, and that makes incumbant Senator John Sununu an at-risk Republican. So add him to our list!

ANOTHER UPDATE: I should probably revise my comment about Delaware. If Biden runs for President, and leaves that seat open (barring a state law change similar to the one allowing LIberman to run both for VP and Senate at the same time), I think former Governor Mike Castle jumps into the race. And he would be the odds on favorite, probably, to take that seat for the GOP.

Now, whether Castle runs depends on his health. He recently suffered a stroke. Although, they didn't prevent him for running from runing for reelection to the House.

The most intriguing possibiliuty with Castlke, however, is that he switches parties and becomes a Dem now that the Democrats control the House. If he does, he could run as a Democrat for Biden's seat, and probably ensure we retain it. So, who knows!


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Re: Dems Should Hold the Senate for a Decade (none / 0)

Dude, Cochran of Mississippi should be an R.

All things considered, I'd say that Mary Landreau and Tim Johnson are both vulnerable.

Our pickup opportunities are in MN, NM, OR, and NH.

Funny story about Max Baucus giving a republican "the treatment". It turns out that his opponent in 2002 was some Bible-thumping dude who used to at one time be a hairdresser. Max Baucus got a video tape of him that was made in years ago and very subtly insinuated that the guy was gay! His opponent dropped out.


by bushsucks on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:20:22 AM EST

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I don't think Baldacci is a strong candidate in Maine.  He is not very popular - he got 38% - and largely won b/c of splintered opposition.  Tom Allen who represents Maine - 1 in the House is probably a much better candidate against Collins.

There have been rumors that an R Senator is considering switching parties in the wake of elections and I have narrowed it down to either Collins or Gordon Smith in Oregon.  Be interesting to see if it happens.


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:30:01 PM EST

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I'd put Norm Coleman and Goerge Voinovich in the mix as well.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:36:13 PM EST
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Maybe Coleman since he has switched once.  I think Voinovich is a pretty loyal R although he is clearly in the moderate wing and has had his arm broken more than once to go along with Bush.  Interesting to see.

I am putting my money on Gordon Smith who is pretty moderate and could be facing a challenge from former Gov John Kitzhaber who is itching to get back into the game.  Smith would lose.  Kitzhaber threatened to challenge Gov Kulongoski in the primary but was talked out of it.  If Smith switched and got a no primary pledge he would sail to re-election.  Given the new political landscape he is probably going to have the fight of his life if he stays an R.


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:44:48 PM EST
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In 2008- On the Democratic Side.
I'd say that Pryor is safe in Arkansas- Arkansas like WV is the most Democratic leaning state in the South plus Pryor is a household name in Arkansas- voters admire Mark's father. Pryor surives a primary challenge against the left wing nut cases and wins the general election.
Johnson is vulnerable if Rounds challenges him but is safe otherwise.
Landrieu of LA is the only Democrat that is vulnerable to defeat- Her fate will be decided in the December runnoff.
Other Democratic Seats are safe.

On the Republican side
The seats Democrats are favored to pick up is
CO,MN,and NH.
ME is Collins steps down
OR- if Democrats recruit a top tier challenger. Kitzbaber or DeFazio.
NC- if Easley runs
NM- if Domenici steps down.
If Popular Democratic Governors like Sebelius(KS),Henry(OK),Bredesen(TN)and Fredenthal(WY)run in - KS,OK,TN,and WY will be competive.

If Roberts-KS steps down- then Sebelius will have a shot- only if Republicans nominate an arch conservative. - Splitting the Dole/Kassebaum Republicans vs the Brownback republicans

Henry(OK)- will do better that Brad Carson.

Bresdesen vs Alexander race will be the battle of titans Senate race. as well as the Fredenthal vs Enzi race.

In 2008 Democrats will pick up at least 2 seats

In 2010-
Salazar-CO will win re-elected by much comfortable margin- he will benifit from Governor Bill Ritter's coattails-

The Vulnerable Republican Seats
1)Martinez-FL- if a Miami Dade Cuban Democrat ie Alex Penelas- runs
2)Grassley-IA- if he retires- Tom Vilsack runs for that seat
3)Brownback-KS- may retire- Sebelius or Dennis Moore or Dan Glickman.
4)Bunning-KY- he looses
5)Vitter-LA- we just have to force him in a runnoff.
6)Bond-MO- will always face a tough race.
7)Gregg-NH- will face a tough race- Jean Shaheen or John Lynch.
8)Burr-NC- he looses
9)Voinovich-OH- he looses.
10)Coburn-OK- looses if Brad Henry runs
11)Specter-PA- if he retires- that seat flips Democratic- Expect Rendell to succeed his mentor.
12)Thune-SD- if Herseth runs
13)Bennett-UT- if he retires- Jim Matheson or Bill Orton.

with regards to our Freshmans.
Cardin- MD is safe - his re-elect numbers will be similar to Paul Sarbanes and Barbara Mikulski's- he will get no less than 60% of the popular vote.
Klobuchar-MN is safe- her re-elect numbers will be greater than Wellstones. Klobuchar gets between 55-60% of the popular vote.
Brown-OH- is safe- her re-elect numbers will be similar to Glenn in 1992 and Metzenbaum in 1988. Brown gets between 55-60% of the popular vote.
Casey-PA- is safe- Casey gets no less than 60% of the popular vote.
Whitehouse-RI is safe- Whitehouse gets no less than 65% of the popular vote.
Sanders-VT- is safe- Whitehouse gets no less than 65% of the popular vote.

McCaskill-MO will face a tough GOP challenge.
Tester-MT will face a tough GOP challenge
Webb-VA will face a tough GOP challenge


by CMBurns on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:44:44 PM EST

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Webb will be fine. I think he will cruise to reelection. I also think tester will be OK.

Landrieu, I hate to say it, is a goner. I just don't see how she wins.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:54:17 PM EST
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Johnson is fine (3.00 / 1)

Unless Mike Rounds runs, Johnson is fine. He held off John Thune in 2002, so he is quite strong. And Rounds has lost popularity after the abortion ban.

Landrieu will be tough, but Louisiana is unpredictable. In 2002, she held on in a very pro-GOP year. Of course, nobody knows what the electorate will look like in 2008 in Louisiana. A lot hinges on the Governor's race in 2007.

Pryor is a lock in Arkansas. The Arkansas GOP is the weakest Republican Party in entire South.

Retirements are more likely to open up GOP pickup possibilities than these three seats.


by elrod on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:50:14 PM EST

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We should pick up 1-4.

1.  Coleman

  1.  Warner (retirement, Warner or Kaine running)
  2.  Sununu
  3.  Allard (CO)

Only Landrieu and Johnson seem particularly tough- I'd say Landrieu is lost.

As posted above, '10 looks good as well.  I also, short of a Dem meltdown, have a hard time seeing how they get the House back for 6-10 years... it took us 12 to come back from much less of a deficit.

If we win Pres in '08  we should gain 8-10 seats at least, putting us back where we were in 1993.


Would you hire George W Bush to be YOUR latex salesman?
by jgkojak on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:14:27 PM EST

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I'd add Gordon Smith to the list of top vulnerables in 2008.  Oregon is not hospitable territory for the Rs these days.


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:27:40 PM EST
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If the Dems plays this right, they will take back the whole enchilada in 2008.

One of the first bills I'd propose in the Senate would be to add three seats to the Supreme Court. Then appoint young, vibrant, brilliant liberal jurists.

If the GOP threatens a veto, tell them we will use the "nuclear option."


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:28:37 PM EST


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