2008 Senate Ratings

Wow.  The 2008 Senate looks good.  No matter what the GOP does to us to steal the Senate back (lure Joementum, appt Joe Sec of Huckleberry Hound, Rell appts Shays as replacement) we should take it back big in 2008, even without coattails.

2008 Senate Forecast
11/8/2006

GOP Targets
Not many.

Toss-up.
LA. Mary Landrieu. The new NOLA vote will make it tough for a Dem to win.

NJ. Lautenburg. We seem to have trouble with Jersey.  We'll need to do some solid recruiting to keep this seat.

OVERALL:  6 solid Dem Pick-up opportunities.  2 potential Dem losses.  3-4 more interesting Dem opporunities.
Full forecast in extended...

2008 Senate Forecast
11/8/2006

GOP Targets
Not many.

Toss-up.
LA. Mary Landrieu. The new NOLA vote will make it tough for a Dem to win.

NJ. Lautenburg. We seem to have trouble with Jersey.  We'll need to do some solid recruiting to keep this seat.

Full forecast in extended.

Lean Democratic.
MT- Baucus.
SD- Johnson.
AR- Pryor.
WV- Rockefeller.

Solid Democratic.
IA- Harkin.
MI- Levin.
MA- Kerry.
DE- Biden. (Does he run again for Senate?)
IL- Durbin.
RI- Reed.

Democratic Targets

Lean Democratic.
MN. Coleman.  Target #1.  1) Because he got elected by exploiting Wellstone's death.   And 2) because he's a GOP idiot syycofant in a very blue state.  I'll need some proof that Franken is electable.

VA. Warner.   John Warner retiring.  If Mark Warner runs, its in the bag.

CO. Allard.  In newly Blue CO, we should have enough of a bench to unseat the unspectacular and clueless Allard.

Toss-up.

NH. Sununu.  After what happened yesterday... this should be a top opportunity.

NM. Domenici.  He's supposed to retire.  This should be a pick-up.  Richardson- your first test is ensuring this seat goes Dem.  Start recruiting.

KS.  Roberts.  He's supposed to be retiring, having been talked into running again in 2002 by Dole.  If Sebelius makes this race its a toss-up.

Lean Republican.
OR. Should Gordy be allowed to survive in Blue Oregon?  Is he 2008's Chaffee?

GA. Chambliss. This would be tough, but who here votes for a rematch between Saxxby and Max?

TN. Alexander. Ford could mount an interesting challenge.  If Lamar retires this could get interesting real fast.  Would Lamar retire if he actually had to raise money?

AK.  Stevens.  4.  You'd think Senator "Tubes" would retire.  After all, he was trapped in ice and thawed out by scientists.  All these "internets" and "computers" confuse and frighten him.  Could Knowles win this?

SC. Graham.  4.  Suprisingly, there is talk of a Graham primary challenge from the right.  Could soften him up a little.

NC. Dole.  3.  Would a well-funded challenger lead to retirement?  Paging Dean Smith.

OK.  Inhofe.  3.  If the Gov runs against him its interesting, but doubtful he can be knocked off even in a heavily Dem year.

Solid Republican.
MS. Cochran.  1.  Like Alexander, could a real challenge by a credible candidate push Cochran into retirement?

TX. Cornyn.  1.  KBH was a little closer than we thought.  Cornyn's not goin' anywhere but, HEY KINKY, wanna make this one interesting?

ID. Craig.  1.  Would have been a 10, but Tester's got me thinkin'...

AL. Sessions.  1.  Not much chance.  I'd like to see us run an African American candidate to see where that bring the African American vote in for downticket races.

ME. Collins.  0.  C'mon Bill In Portland, ME.  Run.

UT. Enzi.  0.  No dice.

NE.  Hagel.  0.  The only way this is even a little interesting is if 1) Hagel runs for Pres and 2) Bob Kerrey wants his seat back.

KY.  McConnell.  0.  Too well-funded.


Poll
Norm Coleman.
a. Toast.
b. Egg meet hot asphalt.
c. Shredded like chinese chicken.
d. Pastuerized and processed.
e. Meet the new "Al Franken Decade"


Votes: 39
Results : Vote Link : Polls

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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Lots of potential retirements that we need to be ready for, even in safe states (eg, get ready for the Mass primary).

Geezers and aspirants:
Stevens (AK)
Biden (DE)
Roberts (KS)
Kerry (MA)
Levin (MI)
Cochran (MS)
Lautenberg (NJ)
Domenici (NM)
Dole (DC)
Inhofe (OK)
Warner (VA)
Rockefeller (WV)


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 02:55:20 PM EST

2008 Senate Primaries (none / 0)

If true, this makes for a really wide field, and we should start finding and building up good progressive challengers to all of them (isn't it sad that Lugar went unopposed this year, when we had such great gains in IN?).

Obviously, this means a lot of primary fights, something the netroots excel in. Yeesh, MA will be a bruiser if you're right about Kerry (but why would he leave, unless he got the nom again?)

And here's another one: who would be a good target for accountability in '08 a la Lieberman -- someone we take to task with a progressive opponent in their primary?  Biden comes to mind, but perhaps we'll have enough primary fights already that we won't need to pick any additional ones.


Tim Wolfe

John McCain is not pro-choice!

by bruorton on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:57:37 PM EST
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Kerry will leave to run for President.  Despite the fact that Holy Joe did both at once in 2000, it's pretty much understood that you don't run for two offices at once.

On the accountability front, there isn't much to work with.  There are only 10 Democratically held seats up in 2008, and quite frankly, most of them are in the list above.  The accountability race is going to be the MA primary if Kerry leaves.  That's where we hammer the holy hell out of Marty Meehan.

I would love to see a challenge to Mark Pryor in Arkansas, but more to make a point than to legitimately take him out after his support of Lieberman.  That said, if Wes Clark decides that President isn't the gig he's after, it would be lovely to see him as the next Senator from Arkansas.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:31:38 PM EST
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Lloyd Benson did it as well with his VP run in 88


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:14:55 PM EST
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Wes needs to win something before he can be taken seriously for the Presidency. Going for a senate seat would be a good move for him. Let's face it, he isn't going to get heard amongst the 2008 crowd. He lacks the money, and the organisation, for a serious run in 2008. VP still a possibility but even that would leave him vulnerable to the charge of not having won an election for office.


by kundalini on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 09:13:48 AM EST
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are you kidding? (none / 0)

If I were Norm Coleman I'd be horrified at the prospect of being targeted by Al Franken's campaign commercials. The guy used to write political satire for freakin' Saturday Night Live, back when SNL was actually good. He'd have to give up his radio show when he becomes a candidate, but his celebrity and netroots support, as well as the strong, strong, strong newfound DFL presence in Minnesota should make it a pretty easy pickup, maybe of the Casey-Santorum variety.


by mihan on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:03:00 PM EST

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Paging Dean Smith.

He's earned a lot of political goodwill with Dems across NC in recent cycles. And he's not a Shuler -- an empty vessel for the DCCC to inflate. Erskine Bowles would have been a good Senator, but his campaigns were crippled by his media people. I think Dean Smith is happier working from the sidelines, if you pardon the metaphor, but NC's there for the taking.

I'd have to go with Mike Easley: he's term-limited in 2008, and though his approval ratings have hovered around 50%, Liddy D has done little to endear herself to the state.


by etagloh on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:03:56 PM EST

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Dole has been worse as a senator than she was as leader of the DSCC.  However, I'm not too optimistic here in NC.  Look at our horrid track record in Senate races:

2004 Burr
2002 Dole
1998 Edwards
1996 Helms
1992 Faircloth
1990 Helms
1986 Sanford
1984 Helms
1980 East
1978 Helms

That's just 2 Dems elected in 10 Senate races.  Embarrassing.


Enough is enough!
by Bear83 on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:47:29 PM EST
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Allow for Helms though.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:01:16 PM EST
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Dean Smith is like 75 years old.


by Tom on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:45:02 AM EST
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Gov. Easley of NC is term-limited, he would be a GREAT challanger to Dole.


by AC4508 on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 04:26:40 PM EST
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Easley (none / 0)

The job is Easley's if he wants it and I would bet big that he wants it.

Dole is toast.


by NCJim on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 06:31:39 PM EST
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Also, Bob Dole is old. (none / 0)

O'Connor didn't retire because she was old; she retired because her husband was old and dying and she wanted to be back in Arizona.  

Now, I assume Bob is there with Liddy in DC, but an old spouse has motivated people to retire before, particularly if they're facing a taxing one-year campaign.

I don't have any good gossip about Liddy's intentions, but NC ought to be on the rader.  Would Easley be interested if the race was a cakewalk?  What if it's hard?


by texas dem on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:01:18 PM EST
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A few things:
Collins may retire, prompting this up to tier 1. That is, at least, what she said she would do when running in 1996 and 2002.

Cornyn is pretty unpopular... With a strong, well-funded candidate like Houston Mayor Bill White, this would become instantly competitive.

Levin may retire... another defense seat.

Dole may retire... another opportunity here.

In Alabama, word is that Congressman Artur Davis may run, though he could be eyeing Shelby's seat for 2010.

It is possible that Rockefeller will retire, though he is not nearly as old as Byrd.


by KainIIIC on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:06:57 PM EST

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Carl Levin's spot kind of worries me. The Republicans have a couple of strong candidates in Mike Rogers of the 8th CD and Candice Miller. Michigan Republicans took an uppercut to the jaw this year, but don't doubt those two, especially. Dems? The bench is rather thin if you ask me. There aren't a lot of Dem stars in their legislature, and I doubt Granholm leaves her cushy office in Lansing for a Senate campaign...not in 2008 anyway. If Dems want to hold this seat, I see one of the rising stars, Virg Bernero, the mayor of Lansing, answering that call. Detroit's mayor has been rumored as a possibility, as has Carl Levin's brother Sander, but they won't work due to a lack of popularity and old age, respectively.

I'd seen somewhere that Collins had said she'd run for another term in 2008, disregarding whatever promises she may have made. Her and Olympia seem pretty darned untouchable, though Collins seems more vulnerable.


by mihan on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:13:47 PM EST
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I think Granholm is a possibility, if she can turn the state around economically.  She just trounced Dick DeVos despite a poor economic showing the last 4 years.  

This biggest star for the Dems IMO is State Sen Mark Schaurer, but since the State Sen didn't flip Dem, it'll be hard for him to get the publicity.  No. 2 would be Gretchen Whitmir, but she only has a few terms in the state house and now her first in the State Senate.

Rogers (if he can stay clean, seemed to have a lot fo photo opps with Foley) and Miller will be tough opponents.

Michigan does have some "retired" Dems who could run good races.  Howard Wolpe used to be a Congressman from Kalamazoo and is still active in the party. David Hollister was an excellent mayor in Lansing, but he may be actually be retired from politics now.


How is John McCain different than John Edwards?
by The lurking ecologist on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:52:17 PM EST
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We might only need a placesaver in Michigan.  If we can get one term out of someone who then retires and hands it off to one of the rising stars who now has 6 more years of experience, that'd work for me.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:18:24 PM EST
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Well, I bet Levin retires. So we need someone.  His retirement will deprive the Senate of one of its truly thoughtful members.


How is John McCain different than John Edwards?
by The lurking ecologist on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:49:02 PM EST
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Not sure... (none / 0)

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but I'm not certain that Levin will retire.

If he does, there's Schauer, mentioned upthread (but I'm still hoping he'll run-- and win-- in MI-07 against Tim Walberg). Also, I've heard rumors that Congressman Bart Stupak (MI-01-- UP and northern LP) might run. Stupak would be a strong candidate, I personally think, even if he's a little more centrist than Carl Levin. Plus, it'd give the Yoopers an even stronger voice in Washington!

It's tough to say who the GOP might run, though. Land and Rogers strike me as more interested in the 2010 governor's race, but that's not based in any real evidence.


Walberg Watch - Following Radical Conservative Rep. Tim Walberg in MI-07
by Fitzy on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:42:27 PM EST
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Re: Not sure... (none / 0)

Just noticed that Stupak was mentioned further down the page. I ought to know better than to comment before reading everything...


Walberg Watch - Following Radical Conservative Rep. Tim Walberg in MI-07
by Fitzy on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:46:32 PM EST
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Crap. (none / 0)

I didn't know that.  Even now that we won him the chairman's gavel?  He'd give up Chair of Armed Services after only two years?

Michigan will be a very obnoxious hold.  Hopefully someone can talk him down.


by texas dem on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:06:36 PM EST
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Would Granholm really leave her office after just two years to run for the Senate? I don't know about that one.

I didn't know Mark Schaurer since he's kind of languishing in the minority, but I myself have voted for Gretchen Whitmir. I don't know what she's like as a speaker and campaigner, but winning that district that she's representing(I used to live there) doesn't say much for her ability to run statewide.

Rogers and Miller can definitely make a strong run of it...Miller was a strong candidate to run for Senate this time, but I think she backed out because an open seat in '08 would be an easier race than would trying to unseat the strangely resilient Stabenow. Rogers represents Lansing and many points easy into the northern metro Detroit area...he's exactly the kind of guy that can run strongly in the rural areas of Michigan, which I'd say are as Republican-friendly as Alabama is.

Hollister was extremely popular as a mayor in Lansing, but he seems content to stay on the sidelines now. Like I said, Virg Bernero seems to be really ambitious...I wouldn't doubt at all he'll take a shot either at the Senate seat or at the Governor's mansion after Granholm leaves.


by mihan on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 07:50:37 PM EST
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Oh, I agree that Granholm would be a longshot.  But can she run and remain Gov at the same time?  I don't remember what the rules are for this in Mich.  None of the previous govs in my political awareness have tried this (since late Milliken).

If  Schaurer was the Senate majority leader, he'd have a better shot.  But since the house flipped, I think he'll still get more press.

Yeah, anyone can win East Lansing as a Dem, this is true.  However, I used to work with some GOP party heads and they were impressed with her political skills, even as she was just breaking into the scene.  So there may be more to her than a favorable district.

Perhaps Diane Byrum would run in Levin's place.  I believe she was term limited this year.  Mike Rogers only beat her by about 200 votes and then they gerrymandered Rogers' district.

Bernero was a city councilman (I think) when I was in the EL area, so I never got much of a feel for him, but at the moment he suffers the same problems that other Mich Dems have.  Short experience at the state level.


How is John McCain different than John Edwards?
by The lurking ecologist on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 10:02:47 PM EST
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I do like what I've seen from Whitmer so far, but she needs a record of accomplishment for herself before she can even think of the US Senate. She also should learn not to put 5 megapixel pictures of herself on the internet, as there was a big one on her campaign website, and it highlighted every graphic flaw in her complexion. She's not ugly at all, but it really didn't look good blown up on my 19".

Bernero was my State Rep, then my State Senator, and then for a short while my mayor before I moved away from Lansing. The knocks on him were that he's kind of a career candidate, political opportunist who is always looking for the next higher office. I think a lot of that was because he tried running for Mayor twice(it was an issue in the second campaign), winning the second time. He does now though have a key component of experience he was lacking, which is executive experience. He's going to be around Michigan politics for awhile, believe me.

Its really sad, that Michigan overall has voted pretty Democratic, statewide, but that that Dem bench is so pitifully weak at this point. There is some new blood brewing though, especially now that they have the House majority there.


by mihan on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:24:41 AM EST
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Cornyn's race has underrated potential to be a dark horse.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:36:45 PM EST

Nebraska (none / 0)

Bob Kerrey's old seat is actually Nelson's, but point taken. Hagel's a difficult Senator to defeat. I think it can be done, however, I don't know if our strongest candidates will want to challenge him.

Scott Kleeb is my favorite choice for 2008 Senate. Though he came up short in Nebraska's 3rd, he's a strong candidate, and I think he'd carry Lincoln and Omaha by substantial margins.


Further Reading
by Dave Sund on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:45:50 PM EST

Re: Nebraska (none / 0)

If his presidential run gets traction, he might not be an issue.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:19:13 PM EST
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Re: Nebraska (none / 0)

Kleeb would be a great candidate.  Keep in mind, if he gets 45% in the 3rd district (as he did this year) he probably wins statewide.


by Tom on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:46:37 AM EST
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I think Hagel's untouchable. (none / 0)

And I almost never say that.

Unless he gets a challenge from the right first, a la Chafee and Specter, and maybe Graham.  That could get interesting.  Absent that, a Dem is not going to take him.  Scott Kleeb is a great candidate though.


by texas dem on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:09:44 PM EST
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Lautenberg insists that he's going to run for re-election, despite the fact that he's older than Methuselah.  The Republicans only chance of beating him is U.S. Attorney Chris Christie.  Any other Republican candidate is dead in the water.

The whole notion that "we have a problem with New Jersey" should have been debunked when two straight cycles state voters reaffirmed their blue leanings late in the process. I'm not worried.


by Bob Fenster on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:49:42 PM EST

There will be a move to shove him aside. (none / 0)

Holt, Andrews and Pallone are waiting in the wings, and at least one of them will be unwilling to wait until '14 to move to the upper house.


by lonemorriscodem on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 08:20:58 PM EST
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Hmm.  Are you sure Warner's retiring for sure?  Hadn't heard that.  That said, I'd bet on at least several retirements on the Republican side just due to the unpleasantness of having to go out and fight a big blue wave when even if they fend it off they stay in the minority.  So I wouldn't be surprised by retirements of folks like Warner, Roberts, Domenici and several others that are just unguessable at this point.


Tim Wolfe

John McCain is not pro-choice!

by bruorton on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 03:50:24 PM EST

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Not for sure, but he'll be 81 on election day 2008.  Obviously that doesn't mean he won't want to re-up, but that's pretty old.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:02:11 PM EST
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and he hasn't been raising money.


by KainIIIC on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:41:19 PM EST
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Warner's definitely retiring.  He might have stuck around for another term if he could still be chairman of the Armed Services Committee.  It's the only reason he held his nose and campaigned with George Allen.  Heck, I would wager a bet that Warner actually voted for Webb.  Warner has no incentive to stay now that we have Senator-elect Webb!!!!!!!!!!!!  

I know Tom Davis (R-Fairfax County) wants to run.  If he does, his seat in Northern Virginia is immediately up for grabs.  We have a strong, but not particularly deep bench here in the Commonwealth.  The big three are Mark Warner, Doug Wilder, and Tim Kaine.  I would rule out Kaine simply because he wouldn't even be done with his only term (Virginia governors cannot have consecutive terms).  Mark Warner may want to run for governor again to bolster his credentials for a future presidential run.  Wilder is getting up there in years but is still a rock star here.

The second tier would be guys like Rick Boucher, Bobby Scott, Jim Moran, and Creigh Deeds.  Boucher has a strong base in SW Virginia, which automatically makes him a contender.  Bobby Scott could excite the African-American base.  Moran is a moderate, but can easily be labeled as a Beltway insider simply because of the location of his congressional district.  Deeds lost the race for Attorney General by a hair and also has a strong SW base.

If Davis does get the nod on the Repug side, it would be smart to recruit someone from another region of the Commonwealth.  Having two Northern Virginians run would only hurt the Democrat in the rest of the state.


by Southern Blue Dog on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:54:19 AM EST
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My gut is Mark Warner is going to run for John Warner's Senate seat.  It is a natural move.  If he had wanted to run for Gov again, he could have stayed in the Prez race, seen what happened and still had time to run in 2009 if he didn't make it.


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:40:35 PM EST
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That's great to hear -- and definitely what I was thinking of when I said that a few might retire rather than spend their old age in the minority.  If we're lucky, they'll be defending 6-8 open seats, which will make the NRSC's task that much more impossible.

Also, that actually sounds like a great bench in VA -- isn't the SW where Allen's base was?  (I also agree that Mark Warner seems like he would be a natural for this seat.)


Tim Wolfe

John McCain is not pro-choice!

by bruorton on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:00:45 PM EST
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Not sure about Bobby Scott's viability statewide, but he'd be a terrific senator.


John McCain
by DanM on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:18:14 PM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (3.00 / 1)

Moran would be bad. no Moran.


by Lucas O'Connor on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:35:36 PM EST
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FYI- Allard's seat will be contested by Mark Udall from CO-02.  He announced it a while back and is part of a politically royal family in the Mountain West.  Wouldn't mind seeing Tom Udall run for Senate in New Mexico at the same time.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:03:26 PM EST

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Udall is in and has already started raising money.  If Allard does not retire, Udall will win.  If Allard retires and Bill Owens decides to run, the race becomes a toss-up and a marquee matchup.


by Southern Blue Dog on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:56:47 AM EST
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Owens ain't what he used to be (none / 0)

A lot of the fiscal conservatives are pissed at him for supporting Ref. C, and Democrats are pissed at him for vetoing a rather large number of bills over the past two years.

Tom Tancredo has also expressed a quixotic interest in the Senate seat as well, but the biggest potential threat is former Congressman Scott McInnis, who held CO-03 (now held for so long as he may want it by John Salazar).  McInnis is a relatively principled conservative, willing to cross the aisle on environmental issues.  He's essentially Udall's conservative other half, and that will probably sell well across the state.  Assuming he's interested in running...


by Phoenix Rising on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:43:09 PM EST
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Re: Owens ain't what he used to be (none / 0)

I didn't even think of McInnis.  Good call.

Here's hoping it's Tancredo v. Udall...


by Southern Blue Dog on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:09:30 PM EST
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Democratic Seats-
Tossup-
Louisiana- Landrieu narrowly won re-election in 2008. plus loss of minority voters in NOLA.

Leans Democratic
New Jersey- possible retirement- look for US Housemembers- Pallone,Andrews,Holt,Rothman to succeed old Frank.

Iowa- Harkin always faces tough race but ends up surviving.

Michigan- possible retirement- with the exception of Granholm and Stupak and Kilpatrick.- the Democratic bench is too thin.

Montana- competive if Rehberg runs. Baucus should win handily otherwise.

South Dakota- I will move that race to tossup if Rounds runs-

Democratic Favored
1)Arkansas- Pryor is a household name if Arkansas plus- Democrats will occupy every statewide office in Arkansas- By 2007 Democratic Governor/Lt Governor- 3/4 of the US House Delegation and the State Legislature is controlled by Democrats.
2)West Virginia- I doubt Rockefeller retires before Byrd is around.

Safe
1)Biden(DE)- seat is vulnerable if Biden gives up that seat to run for higher office
2)Durbin(IL)
3)Kerry(MA)- any Democratic US House member can hold on to the seat if it opens- Capuano,Meehan,Lynch.
4)Reed(RI)

Republican Seats
Tossup
1)Allard(CO)-narrowly won re-election in 2002. State is trending purpleish blue- top tier Democrat- Mark Udall.
2)Coleman(MN)- narrowly won in 2002- which was a fluke-. any Democrat other than Al Franken can unseat Norm.
3)Sununu(NH)- NH is trending blue- Sununu was narrowly elected in what was a questionable election. Lynch or Sheehan. to challenge Sununu.

Leans Republican
1)Collins(ME)- seat becomes a tossup if Collins retires.
2)Domenici(NM)- seat becomes a tossup if Domenici retires.
3)Dole(NC)-extremely vulnerable if Easley runs.
4)Smith(OR)- if a top tier candidate like Kitzhaber or DeFazio runs. Tossup
5)Warner(VA)- Warner has to retire and the other Warner has to run.

Likely Republican
1)Stevens(AK)- possible retirement but it is less likely a Democratic could win a Senate Seat in Alaska.
2)Chambliss(GA)- Georgia is trending red. it is less lik
3)Roberts(KS)- sames thing as Alaska.
4)Cochran(MS)- same thing as Kansas
5)Inhofe(OK) same thing as Kansas

Safe
1)Sessions(AL)
2)Craig(ID)
3)McConnell(KY)
4)Hagel(NE)
5)Graham(SC)
6)Alexander(TN)
7)Cornyn(TX)
8)Enzi(WY)

Harold Ford-TN is more likely to run for Governor in 2010 than challenge a well entrenched incumbent like Lamar Alexander.


by CMBurns on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:28:12 PM EST

Quibbles (none / 0)

Harold Ford-TN is more likely to run for Governor in 2010 than challenge a well entrenched incumbent like Lamar Alexander.

Won't Alexander just be finishing his first term?  Is he that entrenched already?

I think Alaska is safe no matter what.  Tony Knowles has lost too many elections now and it's not clear that the Dems have any bench there.

I'd forgotten about Stupak in my discussion above.  He'd be an interesting choice.  I suspect Kilpatrick would have a harder time because of the "Detroit Democrat" stigma.  Stupak's house district would be fairly safe, despite being rural UP Michigan.  But Stupak's had other times to run for Senate and has passed (ex: 2000 instead of Stabenaw).

I'd be very surprised if Jay Rockefeller retires in WV.  But the Dems have a strong bench there, though Joe Manchin (Gov) is far far far from progressive.  If Rock retires and Manchin runs, we should find an alternative candidate (former Gov Gaston Caperton--who would have one of the coolest names in DC).

Dems have strong Govs who may be facing term limits that could move to the Senate (Easley, Sabelius, Richardson if not Pres, Henry).  Should be very interesting.


How is John McCain different than John Edwards?
by The lurking ecologist on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:45:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

My Signature (none / 0)

Hey, do I take my Googlebomb signature off yet?  I assume Kissell will ask for a recount...


How is John McCain different than John Edwards?
by The lurking ecologist on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:46:58 PM EST
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Re: My Signature (none / 0)

there may be a recount but i don't think there are any more votes to be cast down there.


by Lucas O'Connor on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:39:17 PM EST
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Re: My Signature (none / 0)

OK--You're the Googlebomb boss.

(After this post.  I really dislike Robin Hayes.)


How is John McCain different than John Edwards?
by The lurking ecologist on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 09:03:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Quibbles (none / 0)

Yes... remember, Lamar Alexander is a very popular former governor here in TN.  Although it would be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't get the 20% of black support he usually gets.


by Tom on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:48:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Please. If Levin retires... (none / 0)

Gov. Granholm will be the odds on favorite to take that seat. She can''t run for President, and she's term limited in 2010, so that would be WAY too tempting for her.

Other possibilities include former Governor James Blanchard, former House minority Whip, Dave Bonior and (vey intriguingly) former Detroit Mayor, Dennis Archer.

The WILD, WILD card would be that asshole Geofrrey Feiger running again.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:43:00 AM EST
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Re: Please. If Levin retires... (none / 0)

Their is another name we are forgetting-

Lynn Rivers- the former Democratic Congresswomen who represented the Ann Arbor Area- her seat was elimanated due to Congressional Redistricting in 2000- by the GOP controlled legislature in Michigan. Rivers lost the democratic primary to the great John Dingell.


by CMBurns on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:55:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Please. If Levin retires... (none / 0)

She's not running. And even if she did, she'd get annhilated. If Granhom runs, Rivers ain't.

The OTHER possibility would be SANDER Levin, Carls brother.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:00:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Larry Craig safe?  Maybe, maybe not.  See my diary on Larry Grant for Senate in 2008.  Craig's been around a long time, and I can see him maybe taking a pass on the next election.  It's tough to go from the majority to the minority, to being powerful to powerless.  He could make a lot of money in the private sector, and if there is any truth to his alleged "outing," he might decide to move on to greener pastures.  He might decide to anyway, if the Dems look like they'll hold on to the senate in '08.  I'm just saying, we need to get a good candidate, just in case.  That's what the 50 state strategy is about, right?  

What do you think?  Larry v. Larry in 08?  Check out my diary at here or at dailykos, and recommend at dkos so more people will tell Larry G. we need him in the senate.  


by Jbearlaw on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:22:11 PM EST

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

If Mike Rogers' story gets any traction, Craig might be in trouble.  Idaho seems to be the last place that would want to have a gay Senator.


by Tom on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:49:01 AM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Rob Andrews will be the next senator from New Jersey. He has the largest war chest and was not opposed this election. He'll win in a cake walk.


by doughnutman on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:34:23 AM EST

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

He'll need to run a better Senate race than his 1997 Gov race which was a disaster.


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:33:57 PM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (3.00 / 1)

Is any race in New Jersey ever a cakewalk?


by Lucas O'Connor on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:40:29 PM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

No and Andrews doesn't have a good track record.  I'd prefer to see someone like Rush Holt run.  He beat an incumbent to win his seat and held on against some tough challenges to keep it.  


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 03:21:15 PM EST
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Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

If Joe Biden runs for President, that seat will be open. And the most likely GOP contender for that seat is former Governor, and current House member, Mike Castle.

Castle recently suffered a stroke, but recovered enough to run for and win reelection to the House.

And two years in the House Minority, where you might as well be a piss boy, may enourage him to rin for the Senate.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:39:39 AM EST

Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

Is there anyone else for the Republicans if Castle's health worsens -- or is he it?  (Granted, you're right, he might be a tough one to beat.)

Who do you know of on the Democratic side who might make for decent contenders, even if they'd start out at a disadvantage to Castle?


Tim Wolfe

John McCain is not pro-choice!

by bruorton on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:45:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

Joe Biden's son. Beau. lets not forget Casey was elected Treasurer- 2 years before running for the US Senate.
 plus Democrats hold other statewide offices in Delaware- State Treasurer.
by CMBurns on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:57:42 AM EST
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Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

Right, Beau Biden. He's now Delaware's Attorney General.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:58:34 AM EST
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Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

Casey had spent 8 years as State Auditor prior to being elected as State Treasurer so he had been in statewide office for 10 yrs prior to beating Ricky.


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:35:14 PM EST
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Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

Casey is not only a famous last name to get elected to the Senate. Their is also Pryor of Arkansas. Sununu of New Hampshire- Chafee benifited mostly from his father's death and Democrats selected a pro life candidate in 2000. 2006 was a bad year for Republicans.

The thing about Delaware is Delaware is a blue state in Presidential Elections which is when the 2008 US Senate Race is taking place. Beau Biden will benifit from his last name- Voters will think they are voting for the father not the son. and Biden will also benifit from the Democratic Presidential nominee's coattails. ie

Gore in 2000
1)MI- Stabenow
2)WA- Cantwell

The 2008 Democratic Presidential Nominee coattails will help Democratic Senate Nominee's in
1)CO- Udall(CO will be a blue state at the Presidential Level).
2)MI- if Levin retires- (Granholm)- MI is a blue state at the Presidential level.
3)MN- Dutcher or Rybak or McCollum(MN is a Blue State at the Presidential Level).
3)NH- Shaheen(NH will be a blue state at the Presidential Level)
4)OR- any credible Democratic planning to challenge Smith- Kitzhaber,DeFazio,Bluemenaur or Westlund.- OR is a blue State at the Presidential level.

open seats
1)ME- the only Republican that can hold on the seat is Olympia Snowes husband. - Tom Allen benifits from Presidential coattails-
2)NM- How popular is Gary Johnson?? Wilson House Seat will be an automatic Democratic Pickup- if it opens up. Udall will benifit from Presidential coattails.

So called vulnerable Democratic Senators who may get a free pass
1)AR- Pryor
2)MT- Baucus
3)SD- Johnson
4)WV- Rockefeller

The only Democratic Senate- That will go Republican is Lousiana.

Democratic Senate Recruitment against Red State Republican Senators.
1)Alabama- Lucy Baxley- she will be a credible sacrificial lamb candidate- who is expected to lose.
2)Alaska- Tony Knowles- he loses.
3)Georgia- Cathy Cox or Mark Taylor- both are expected to loose unless Chambliss does or says something stupid- Macaca moment.
4)Idaho- Jerry Brady- he losses.
5)Kansas- Dan Glickman- he losses even if Republicans have a competitve primary and a rightwinger wins.
6)Kentucky- Mike Weaver- a former military veteran and former Congressional Nominee in a staunchly Republican District- He will be a strong Sacrificial lamb candidate.
7)Mississippi- Mike Moore. he losses.
8)Nebraska- Maxine Moul- she losses
9)North Carolina- Mike Easley- Tossup race
10)Oklahoma- Dan Boren- He benifits from Inhofe's personal misteps- Jim Bunning. Ends up lossing Narrowly.
11)South Carolina- Inez Tennenbaum- she losses
12)Tennessee- Harold Ford Jr. he losses
13)Texas- Henry Cuellar- he losses
14)Virginia- Mark Warner- will run when seat opens- He is favored to win.
15)Wyoming- Gary Trauner- he looses


by CMBurns on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 04:14:46 PM EST
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Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

There's Governor of Delaware, Ruth Ann Minner.

And, Joe Biden's SON, "Beau" Biden, who will lmost certainly run for his dad's seat. He was just elected Delaware's Attorney General.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 11:57:51 AM EST
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Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

No way Minner does it.  She'd be 73 at that point and I dunno.  Do we need a Mikulski clone?


by Lucas O'Connor on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:43:00 PM EST
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Hah! (none / 0)

I thought you were saying Minner is a lesbian, but, she's not.  (Mikulski, of course, is.)


by texas dem on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:20:20 PM EST
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Re: Delaware is a problem for us (none / 0)

The Delaware press did not give enough coverage to the severity of Castle's stroke.  The stress of a competitive Senate campaign may be too much for him.  I wouldn't be surprised if he retires altogether.


by Southern Blue Dog on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:09:59 PM EST
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In a way that's too bad. (none / 0)

Gephardt gave an interview in 2005 in which he said the "moderate Republicans" were a terrific, complete disappointment to him, every time.  Except for Mike Castle.  He had some very nice things to say about Mike Castle.

I don't want to see a Senator Castle either, but it's too bad his health has gone south.


by texas dem on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:21:46 PM EST
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Re: In a way that's too bad. (none / 0)

If Castle wanted to run for the US Senate- He should have done what Ed Case did in Hawaii against Daniel Akaka and issue a primary challenge against Roth in 2000.

Roth was in his late 70's was in ill health. and was facing a competitive race against Tom Carper- The state popular Governor.

Castle is just too old to wanting to run for the US Senate and become a freshman Senator- Delaware will lose alot of clout.


by CMBurns on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 03:37:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Johnson (SD) is Lean Dem?! (none / 0)

Johnson won his last race (against John Thune) by the hair on his balls -- something like 500 votes.

Hey, I'm as psyched as anybody here about the repudiation of the Forced Childbirth law, but that don't exactly make SD a blue state.

I will also grant that we clearly can get Dems elected in the Dakotas, what with 2 Dem senators in ND and Stephanie Herseth as SD's House representative. But if Johnson draws any decent opponent then I think this race will be a dogfight -- winnable, but very close.

I would worry far more about him than about NJ. Jerseyites piss and moan and bitch and whine about their Democratic machine politicians -- and then decide that the alternative is even worse, every single time.

Anyway, while everything (obviously) depends on the particular candidates, the map certainly does make it look good for us to keep our hold on the Senate at the very least, if not expand it by 1 or 2 seats.


by scottso on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:03:55 PM EST

Re: Johnson (SD) is Lean Dem?! (3.00 / 1)

Johnson is definitely lean Dem.  He has worked his tail off following his narrow 2002 victory to boost his constituent services.  He now has one of the highest approval ratings of any Senator in the country.

Mike Rounds may run, but his endorsement of the legislature's extreme ban on abortion, and the state's repudiation of that measure, could do him in.  Johnson is a suberb campaigner, and can easily paint Rounds as an extremist.


by Southern Blue Dog on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:13:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Johnson (SD) is Lean Dem?! (none / 0)

Only 1 or 2?

My goal is a gain of 5.  May be optimistic, but at this far out, why not aim high?


Tim Wolfe

John McCain is not pro-choice!

by bruorton on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:51:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Tennessee (none / 0)

Harold Ford will remain a fixture in TN politics, perhaps as a party chairman.  He'll probably run for Governor in 2010.

Alexander is very popular (moderate by TN standards), but is also getting up there in years.  He'll be 68 in 2008.  If he retires, I would expect TN Democrats to recruit someone other than Ford (i.e., Bredesen or Bart Gordon).    


by Southern Blue Dog on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:18:48 PM EST

Re: Tennessee (none / 0)

I predict Ford will try to get his old House seat back even if it is only a temporary stop.  It is a minority seat but it was won by a white guy.  Could be wrong but it seems a natural move.


by John Mills on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 01:37:31 PM EST
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Re: Tennessee (none / 0)

Alexander's retirement will likely occur in 2014.

The Democrat who may run for Alexander's seat will be Steve Cohen who was recently elected to Harold Ford's old House Seat.

If Cohen runs against Lamar in 2008. His house Seat will go black- Nikki Tinker.

Another possible candidate is Rosiland Kurita- who ran in 2006 but lost to Ford in the Primary.


by CMBurns on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 03:28:08 PM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Their also may be a Special Election in Wyoming.


by CMBurns on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:01:17 PM EST

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

What's wrong with Craig Thomas?


by texas dem on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:23:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

He has leukemia


by CMBurns on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 02:22:58 PM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Here are my thoughts:

KS: Senator Sebelius?  Maybe even VP Sebelius

OH: See Kansas

AK: Knowles has come up short too many times.

NE: Kleeb and Esch did really well.

MT: If Baucus retires, how about Schweitzer?  Besides, I think Baucus would by Agricultural Committee Chair.  I think he would like to hold onto that for a while.

GA: I hadn't thought about Cleland giving Chambliss payback.  But I think he, like Al Gore, has realized that triangulation doesn't work, so damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.  Another possiblity, providing she doesn't get blamed for Mark Taylor's ass kicking in the governor's race, is soon-to-be former Secretary of State Cathy Cox.  

SD: I would be more worried about Rounds running against Herseth.

NM: If Richardson fails to get the nomination (which I think will happen), he would be very formidable.

NH: Lynch is popular.  Hodes and Shea-Porter would have to wait.

ME: If we can find a candidate who can tie Collins to the right-wingers, we could win.  Both House members and the governor are Democrats.


by TheUnknown285 on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:25:56 PM EST

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Baucus will chair the Senate Finance Committee

KS- it has to be an open seat plus a divided Republican Party for Sebelius,Glickman or Moore to have a chance

OK- Henry or Boren.

AK- Knowles will be Democrats Michael Steele- He will force Republicans to spend alot of money trying to defend this seat.

NE- Kleeb could make the race competitive but Hagel wins

MT- Baucus is less likely to step down now that he is Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.

GA- Thubert Baker.

NM- Richardson will be on the National Ticket as VP- He is our Dick Cheney- Congressional,Cabinet level and Gubenatorial Experience- Plus He is a latino from the South West. - Udall has won statewide office.


by CMBurns on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 03:06:20 PM EST
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Re: 2008 Georgia (none / 0)

I hadn't thought about Thurbert Baker.  It may be a promising race, but, if I'm not mistaken, he would have to step down as Attorney General to run.  The Republicans picked up the Lientenant Governor and Secretary of State posts this election, so believe me, we don't want to lose any more statewide posts.

I mentioned Cox in part because she/we have nothign to lose as far as posts go; she will already be out of office.  Plus, in her last election (in the 2002 Republican landslide no less) she won something like 60% of the vote and carried all but like 16 counties out of 159 or so.

Also:

Tennessee: I read the Tim McGraw is a Democrat and would like to be a Senator some day.  That being said, Lamar Alexander is trying for that Senate Minority Whip post.  That tells me he plans to stay around a while.


by TheUnknown285 on Wed Nov 15, 2006 at 09:13:28 AM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

What about Gene Taylor in MS?

He just won 80% of the vote in his very conservative southern Miss district. If Cochrane retires (he'll be 71) this may turn out to be a great pick-up opportunity.


by ctman1638 on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:30:33 PM EST

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Personally, I think a better candidate in MS would be former attorney general Mike Moore, who is still  reportedly very popular.  Gene Taylor is just a little bit too weird and independent for a statewide race.  


by Ryan Anderson on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 04:55:12 PM EST
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Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

Taylor and Moore are both great candidates, but Moore has been out of the spotlight for a few years.  Taylor fits the mold of a conservative Southern Democrat, and he's a perfect fit for Mississippi.  Plus, he's been given almost hero status with all his work to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina.  If you take the 80% support he's been receiving from a heavily Republican district, and you combine that with the strong Democratic base in Bennie Thompson's district, then you have the next junior senator from Mississippi if Cochran retires...


by Southern Blue Dog on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 09:31:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Can someone summarize, please (none / 0)

For example,

Of the Senate seats up in 2008, how many are currently Dems and how many Repubs?

And in 2010?

Thanks,
--Rich


by xtrarich on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:42:29 PM EST

Re: Can someone summarize, please (none / 0)

21R, 12D


by Lucas O'Connor on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 02:45:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Nebraska (none / 0)

Is potentially very interesting, if Hagel retires (which is up in the air right now, he's still looking to run for president).  If Hagel runs, it's unlikely that we'll have a strong recruit, and if we do have a strong recruit it's unlikely that he'll perform well against an incumbent Republican.  But, anything's possible.  No one in November 2004 could've predicted that Allen was going to lose to a political newcomer this year.

Anyway, our strongest recruits IMHO are Scott Kleeb or Omaha Mayor Mike Fahey.  Both are more liberal than Ben Nelson, so idealogically this could be a very interesting race as far as the netroots are concerned.

Fahey is the popular mayor of a city that contains about 1/3rd of the state's residents.  He's very likeable, and he's both a great politician and a great administrator.  However, Omaha is seen by much of the rest of the state as something of a bully, always pulling it's weight around in state politics.  Fahey has attempted a very controversial annexation of some surrounding communities who have no interest in becoming part of Omaha, and this could potentially hurt him out west.

Kleeb's base, of course, is out west.  When Nelson (narrowly) won the 2000 election against Don Stenberg, he actually lost the third district 54-46%, about identical to Kleeb's loss to Adrian Smith on Tuesday, which is very impressive considering the fact that Kleeb has never run for office before and was blasted by hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of negative advertising in the last week (not to mention the president came in to campaign for his opponent).  If Kleeb could maintain mid-to-high forties in his home district, he would just need to convincingly win the Omaha and Lincoln metro areas in order to win statewide.  Winning Omaha and Lincoln is actually the easy part (relatively).

Bob Kerrey is not an option: he doesn't even live in Nebraska anymore, and has shown no interest in returning.  Personally I hope he ends up in the next (Democratic) administration: he's one of the few people I trust to sort out this Iraq mess.  But I digress.


by Ryan Anderson on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 04:51:59 PM EST

Re: Nebraska (none / 0)

ex Lt Governor Maxine Moul


by CMBurns on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 03:20:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Alaska (none / 0)

Let's stop running Knowles for everything.  The future for the Democratic party in Alaska is Mark Begich, mayor of Anchorage.

And let's not rate anything as "safe" just yet.  No seat is safe this far out: we don't know what the environment will be, what surprise retirements might be coming, where we might end up with a strong recruit and where we might fall short.  


by Ryan Anderson on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 05:01:09 PM EST

New Hampshire (none / 0)

John E. Sununu: we are coming for you!


by nascardem on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 09:22:26 PM EST

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

TX. Cornyn.  1.  KBH was a little closer than we thought.  Cornyn's not goin' anywhere but, HEY KINKY, wanna make this one interesting?

Pardon my French, but fuck Kinky. He shit on the Democrats at every opportunity. During his campaign for Governor, he:

1) Advocated a fence along the Mexico border, while calling for the National Guard to patrol it;

2) Advocated for prayer in public schools;

3) Told wingnut talk radio host/State Senator-elect Dan Patrick that he'd sign Patrick's trigger bill (to outlaw all abortions in the event Roe v Wade is overturned); and

4) Called Katrina evacuees "crackheads and thugs".

Kinky's campaign did nothing to help Dems in Texas. Let him collect his book and TV millions, which was the point of his candidacy from the beginning. Texas Dems deserve a real candidate and no sideshow freak distractions.

Sorry, but the joke that was Kinky became unfunny a long time ago.


by kuff on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 09:27:16 PM EST

I only meant (none / 0)

Split the vote with Cornyn and give us a shot at taking this


Would you hire George W Bush to be YOUR latex salesman?
by jgkojak on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:43:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: 2008 Senate Ratings (none / 0)

I think some of you are being overly optimistic due to the big win this week.  All Democrats were contenders this year, and that is rare.  If McCain can get the GOP nomination in 2008, I think we'll be facing a headwind next time.  I am also concerned about the potential Democratic retirements.

I'd love to see Richardson end the national speculation and run for the Senate.  I think potential races between Warner & Davis in VA and Udall & Allard in CO would be our best opportunities.  If Dole retires, Taylor could take NC, but the turf is red.

If Rockefeller retires, we'd better hope Manchin runs or Capito will take the seat.

The smart move now would be to openly court party switchers who could pad our majorities in both houses and allow for the expected back swing of the pendulum in 2008.  Spector, Gordon & the Maine twins in the Senate, and Shays, Castle, etc. in the House.  They'd be moderate rather than liberal, and they'd help us keep control.


by Francis Vecellio on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:02:13 PM EST

Re: Michigan Senate Race (none / 0)

Those of you even thinking about Kwame Kilpatrick as a potential Senate candidate have some of the most deformed brains imaginable.  Kwame is simply going to be the next Coleman Young who stays as Mayor of Detroit till a few years before he dies, or he might take his mama's seat in congress later on.  Black candidates do not win statewide in Michigan, which explains Land winning the secretary of state office in 2002 against a kwame clone, and Mike cox's reelection against amos williams, who is smarter, but still black in a 80% white state.  People on the north side of 8 mile and the west side of Telegraph despise Kwame's obese hiphop culture, in addition to the corruption in his office that makes him look like a black version of Bush.   The dumber black voters mainly supported him in the same way dumb white people voted for Bush.  So all this talk of Kwame as a senate candidate is RETARDED and you liberal yuppies who make the progressive people look bad need to learn how to think realistically, unless you loved the last 6 years in washington.  

I expect that Levin, if his health holds up, is going to be Michigan's version of Strom Thurmond anyway, (though it's weird to think of a Jewish version of Thurmond) and will cruise to another reelection in the same way he did in 2002. Herb Kohl in Wisconsin just won with 60% easily, and old Dems like Ted Kennedy did the same.  

I'm betting Stabenow retires in 2012 though, and Granholm will win that seat.    


by michiganman on Fri Nov 10, 2006 at 04:52:36 PM EST

Re: Michigan Senate Race (none / 0)

With regards to Levin, Their were Senior Senators who choosed to retire after more than a 20 year Senate Career.

1)Sarbanes(MD)- Sarbanes- who is a policy wonk like Levin retired after 30 years in the Senate and is about the same age as Levin.
2)Moynihan(NY)- Another policy wonk like Sarbanes and Levin. Retired after 24 years in the US Senate. Same age as Levin when he retired.
3)Bumpers(AR)- retired after 24 years in US Senate. Same age as Levin when he retired
4)Ford(KY)- retired after 24 years in the US Senate. Same age as Levin when he retired
5)Glenn(OH)- retired after 24 years in the US Senate- Same age as Levin when he retired.

Other Senior Senators who have choosed to run again
1)Robert Byrd(WV)- institution- he remains until he gets taken out in a body bag.
2)Ted Kennedy(MA)- institution- he enjoys the Senate.
3)Daniel Inouye(HI)- institution- he remains until he gets taken out in the body bag.

Sarbanes,Moynihan,Bumpers,Ford,and Glenn- were tired of being in the minority. They also felt it was time to move on.

Levin is now a chairman of the powerful Senate Committee- which deals with Iraq/Troop Withdrawal- The Armed Services Committee. Levin will run again.

The only Democratic Senator that I see actually retiring is Frank Lautenberg.

1)Pryor(AR)-is definitely going to run for re-election.
2)Biden(DE)- will stay in the Senate- once his presidential bid fails- He will relenquish this seat to his son Beau in 2014.
3)Durbin(IL)- will definitly run for re-election
4)Harkin(IA)- will definitly run for re-election
  Harkin will remain in the Senate until he earns the Senior Senator Title.
5)Landrieu(LA)-The most vulnerable Democratic Senator likely to get defeated- will run again- Seat will automatically go Republican if Landrieu steps down.
6)Kerry(MA)- Same as Biden- Kerry like Kennedy will be in the US Senate for a while.- One day Kerry will earn the Senior Senator Title.
7)Baucus(MT)- will definitly run for re-election.  Seat goes Republican if Baucus retires unless- Brian Schwietzer runs.
8)Reed(RI)-will definetly run for re-election
9)Johnson(SD)- will definetly run for re-election- Seat goes Republican if Johnson retires unless- Stephanie Herseth runs.
10)Rockefeller(WV)- will definetly run for re-election- waiting until he becomes the Senior Senator.              

Lautenberg is 84 years old. He is now the Senior Senator. He does not occupy any committee chairmanships. He has already retired once. His seat will remain in the Democratic Collumn.

With regards to Levin. The top tier Democratic candidates to suceed Levin is Granholm who has rebuild her popularity. and got herself re-elected by a double digit margin. Granholm is ineligable to run for President or VP so the US Senate is the highest position she can settle for. However Granholm is suffering from a bad economy in Michigan.- She is an easy target for Republicans.  After Granholm is Granholm's LT Governor John Cherry- He is more interested in running for Governor in 2010.

Bart Stupak- The Upper Peninsula US Rep is pro life- That won't settle well with Women Groups and the Kos crowd.  His house Seat will fall in the Republicans hand.

Dale Kildee,Sander Levin,John Conyers,and John Dingell are in their 70's or 80's

Former US Reps who lost their seats because of redistricting.
Bonior and Barcia are both pro life. Women groups will not favor their candidacy,

Rivers- She will be favored by various women groups- The Bloggers. She is non controversial. But she will be easily targeted with the Liberal Label.

Mama Kilpatrick- Inner City Detriot Liberal.

The best candidate to suceed Levin should he retire is
1)Diane Byrum- State House Minority Leader from Lansing. She narrowly lost a race for US House in 2000 in a swing District.


by CMBurns on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 03:17:34 PM EST
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AL- Safe Republican. Alabama is a red state. There is only few Democratic candidates who might challenge Sessions- Lt Governor Jim Folsom- is more interested in running for Governor. US Rep