Try Something New

I saw The US Vs. John Lennon tonight. It was exactly what I needed. Somehow, spending the day canvassing in the late fall in Philly had the song "California Dreaming" in my head for a while this afternoon. Heading out to the suburbs to watch a movie that was about activism and music from the late 1960's / early 1970's really hit the spot. I haven't felt this good or relaxed since August (I feel the first couple days after Lamont's victory good). The crowd actually cheered and applauded when Gore Vidal said "John Lennon represented life, and Mr. Nixon, and Mr. Bush, represent death." And that is just so right.

The line in the movie that had the most impact on me was when Lennon said at a concert / rally, something like this:
OK, we tried Flower Power. It didn't work. So what? Now, let's try something else.
And so John Lennon kept trying new things. He wasn't afraid to let go of the past, or keep changing who he was, no matter how much it upset people. Which brings me to the subject of my post, which you will find in the extended entry.

Last summer, I got into a big argument on MyDD with a bunch of Baby Boomer activists over what I saw as the slavish devotion to late 1960's-early 1970's protest tactics that, in my opinion, had grown utterly outdated and ineffective. Large rallies featuring songs like "what's going on" weren't working anymore. From what I could tell, we continued to imitate those tactics largely as an homage to the amazing people of the late 1960's and early 1970's, rather than as an attempt to actually conduct effective activism. A lot of people got really pissed at me for those arguments, at least partially because I strayed into something bordering on ageism when I stated my case (read this post for my last statement on that particular argument). But Lennon's words, spoken at a time before I was even born, really hit me. He stated exactly what I was thinking last summer--we would be really stupid to repeat the past just because we admired the people who carried out those protests. The point isn't to repeat classics of the activist Canon simply to develop a better appreciation of the classics, as though we were conservative literary scholars or something. The point is to be effective. Thus, if a tactic isn't working, you need to abandon it, no matter your political outlook or your personal identity. If you don't, you are just plain ineffective, and more interested in "The Canon" and maintaining your image than in accomplishing your goals.

Let me continue to be eleiptical...

There are a lot of differences between the contemporary progressive movement and what John Lennon was a part of from 1969-1974. For starters, we are not radicals, but we are up against radicals. Far leftism, from communism to anarchist smashing of the state, simply has no place in the contemporary progressive movement. Basically, that sort of thing has been reduced to the utter periphery of jester-esque sideshows such as the Dumpster Derby that anarchists hold on my block once every year (always just before the police briefly declare martial law in a two-block radius to shut it down). When it comes to our current movement, we don't have a single anthem, because we live in an era when everyone has their own, individual taste in music derived from mass Internet MP3 sharing. We don't have a Mecca to all visit / live-in such as New York, because the Internet makes taking part in the movement possible from anywhere. We don't even have nearly as many large marches, and the ones we do have are generally ignored, rather than suppressed by the FBI. We do, however, have an entire new industry of progressive, political documentaries. We have millions of blogs. We make our own videos on YouTube. We have vast databases of music on our computers. We storm thrift stores and build our wardrobes from recycled clothes. We drink local beer made by local artisans, sample wide varieties of brews, and then make our own anyway. We make open-source software, despite no monetary benefits. We make absurd variations on coffee our regular drinks. We don't plan out careers, but move form job to job as though we were just dating someone. We cook a wide variety of food, eat in Ethiopian restaurants, and shop in supermarkets with entire aisles featuring Asian and Latin cuisine. We are active in political campaigns, from donating, to volunteering, to voting. And on and on--we are always recreating ourselves. We have abandoned the tactics of the past, because they were not working, and instead adopted a new, creative ethos where individuals create and re-create themselves in a pluralistic environment that is not restricted to any specific location. Thus, we have the social and cultural underpinnings of the progressive, political movement.

Yes, this ethos is decidedly class-based, but what large movement in history has not been? The progressive movement is the end product of the first major organizing movement within what Richard Florida famously termed "The Creative Class." This organizing movement was first perpetuated by MoveOn.org during the conservative drive to remove Clinton from office, and it has rapidly grown ever since then. But really--of course it is going to be based largely online, where people can create and recreate themselves more than in any other medium in history. Of course it is going to quickly recognize that the tactics of the past don't work anymore, because it's built-in Generation X bullshit detector is very finely tuned. Of course it is going to want more than other people thought was reasonable, as Stuart Rothenberg once mocked me for, because it is American, and that is what Americans have always wanted--more. Of course it is going to be extremely tolerant, because it grew up in a vastly more pluralistic world than any generation before it, and because it is predicated on the very notion of fluid identity (thus, the common friction between the netroots and urban Democratic machines often dominated by "ethnic whites"). Of course it is going to be creative, because that is how you make a living, a career, and a personality these days both before and after you graduate from college.

The contemporary American progressive movement is an odd mix of modernism (authenticity, meritocracy, and the liberal, Enlightenment long march of progress that eschews, quick radical change) and postmodernism (the abandonment of fixed identity, the mistrust of, and de-mooring from, large institutions, as well as the general tendency to be playful). The reason so many people have attached themselves to it is both class-based (it doesn't threaten your status as middle class--in fact, it is almost required for advancement), because it is actually working, because it allows one to be both outside and inside at the same time, because it is a challenge, and, most importantly, because it allows for creative action--namely, the remaking the faltering Democratic Party in your own image. It is just the latest manifestation of what John Lennon described thirty-five years ago, but with a huge demographic shift into the Creative Class, and massive technological innovation in the Internet to support it. We tried a bunch of other stuff, from Flower Power to being DLC--and it didn't work. So what? Let's try something new.

I think one of the reasons I really hate people who trash the Democratic Party for their own benefit is that people who do this are striving toward a retro image of "The Principled, Immutable Conservative." It is so lame, so unprincipled while claiming to be principled (conservatism ultimately has no principles except defending the status quo) so temporary while claiming to be long-term, and so obviously "out for yourself" while claiming to be "out for the people." It sets my bullshit detector ringing day and night--it is just such an obvious con and hussle. At the same time, I absolutely can't stand those people and blog commenters who endlessly demand a hard-line progressive approach to politics. Haven't these people ever heard of concepts like flexibility, creativity, and pluralism? It is as though they would rather everyone be just like them, then face the horrifying possibility of actually having to maneuver yourself through the very diverse real world. From my perspective, they are just fixed-identity based theocons wearing a different outfit.

The odd convergence of modernist principles with post-modern identity has bred a surprisingly effective contemporary progressive movement that few, if any, saw coming. Effective as it is, in the end, the only reason we continue to follow through with it is because it keeps working. When the progressive movement finally faces its version of the 2006 elections from the wrong end of the pipe, we will probably give it up very quickly up and try something else new. That is what John Lennon understood four decades ago--if it isn't working, just chuck it, and try something new. That is what creative people do. Don't worship it because it validates your identity. Don't demand that everyone follow the same path in order to continue to validate your identity. Maybe you need to adjust your bullshit detector so you know better when something isn't working. Maybe you need more courage to change the way you understand who you are even if you have followed one path for several years, or even multiple decades. Whatever it is, you need to get past it, and be willing to try something that actually works. If you aren't willing to do that, did you ever really care about the principles you were trying to achieve, or did you just care about being perceived as someone trying to achieve those ends?

So, in the spirit of trying something new, I thought I would highlight a rather prescient YouTube Video I came across today. It is about the elections, and it features George Michael's image-changing theme song, "Freedom '90." Created by anonymous volunteers on behalf of the progressive movement for the 2006 election with lyrics about a one-time and soon to be outed pop icon striving for personal change and distributed free on the Internet--seriously, it could hardly be more relevant to the topic of this post. At the very least, it emphasizes that we all need to try something else, because what we are doing right now isn't working. Enjoy.



And we all shine on. This is one failed English academic and former left-wing radical with absolutely no political or statistical training saying that I think John Lennon would be proud. Have a good night.

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Re: Try Something New (none / 0)

The Artist often has less trouble changing than his/her audience.  Ex: Dylan and his electric guitar; Mingus and Joni Mitchell.  

Artists are constantly searching, peering into the future.  Josef Albers said that Historians have the past but Artists have the future.

A lot of it is about selling out.  Those that don't sell out are allowed the freedom to grow where as those that do are usually doomed to a career of repetition.


DAGGER
by goplies on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 04:16:59 AM EST

the right will change, too (none / 0)

Great post!

I see the Right trying something new in the years ahead, too.  My guess is that they will figure out that a huge majority of voters want clean air, a stable global ecosystem, and energy independence, and will throw their oil interests and the big 3 automakers under the bus (to use the unofficial MyDD vernacular).  Maybe they'll also adopt more clean environment issues from the Sportsman's lobby, too.


end the occupation of Iraq
by aip on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 05:32:34 AM EST

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Unless the theocons somehow manage to completely take over the financal elements of the GOP (in addition to the policy ones, which they pwnd long ago) I have my doubts the party could just cast off the corporate side.

More likely that the corporate side will fight changes for as long as possible, then make a wholesale reversal when their backs are against the wall and claim they were always in support of carbon emmision controls.  It took the GOP decades to adapt to the altered political environment that the Depression brought on, it will probably take another catastrophy (this one environmental) to start them down the path to change again, sadly.


by Ugluks Flea on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:11:25 AM EST
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So maybe a mirror of what we did in the last few years challenging the establishment?

With the theocon masses as it were taking on the entrenched corporate interests in a more down-up take over.

That could be an interesting fight and shockingly enough there would be some common ground between though not much!


by MNPundit on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:49:59 AM EST
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But Lennon's words, spoken at a time before I was even born, really hit me. He stated exactly what I was thinking last summer--we would be really stupid to repeat the past just because we admired the people who carried out those protests.

That's Friedmanism, the ability to be impressed by someone from a demographic you despise, provided he says exactly what you think. For Friedman it's brown-skinned third-world cab-drivers, for you it's sixties baby boomers.


by Del C on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:29:36 AM EST

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This post is mostly a repudiation of Boomers, not a reverence for them.  And Lennon wasn't a Boomer--like Bob Dylan he was the end of the Silent Generation (as am I), a generation that fought for social justice and tolerance in the early '60s, and then watched as the Boomers took over the movements and pushed them to idealistic and unrealistic extremes.  

This is what Chris is getting at, this sense of believing in values and causes, but not getting attached to particular strategies, tactics or programs.  Being flexible enough and egoless enough to change when it isn't working. Not being "blinded by the light of god and truth and right."  While Lieberman represents the worst sort of compromising tendencies of this generation, the ability to be flexible and to look past ones own ideas and listen to others is are very important traits.  That they are emerging in the pragmatic Gen X is no accident.

This is a very good post, with very interesting ideas.  The generational differences in how people approach politics are very striking.  The early Lefty Boomers have more in common with the theocon Boomers than many are willing to acknowledge.  Once we gfet past all that maybe we can get something done.


by Mimikatz on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:21:42 AM EST
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Yes, this ethos is decidedly class-based, but what large movement in history has not been?

All of them.

Bush's legacy, which actually began with Jimmy Carter and continued through Reagan and Clinton, remains narrowly based and intellectually bereft. It will leave little but ruin in its wake to hopefully be replaced with better.

Now is a fine time to start building something fine and new, don't you think, without appeals to class and ethnicity?

Best,  Terry


by terryhallinan on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:13:24 AM EST

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Well, Chris, from one failed English academic (Comp Lit, actually) to another, I want to thank you for articulating this so well. I'm in my late 40s and have been trying to understand what is so different in the world from when I was active politically 20 years ago. I was out canvassing for Kirstin Gillibrand and talking to my canvassing partner about the world and just couldn't get there.

I'm a 20-year veteran of the computer industry now. I fought my way in just as PCs were becoming PC in the workplace. I was a champion of PC-based systems long before that was real. And so I grew up with the 20- and 30-year olds and built my career the same way, bouncing from one place to another and with no affinity to a workplace or a particular job. As a result I developed a stronger sense of myself as myself.

But the downside was a strong sense of isolation and discontinuity. And as the country slid into the hands of the radical right, I found myself enraged, disenfranchised, and powerless. Since 98 and the Clinton impeachment, I had just seen this steady attack on our whole political system. And finally, probably with the rise of Howard Dean, I found this other way of joining with others in the dark of night through the internet. I found there a community of people who were not so obsessed with power or so focussed on their own self-aggrandizement that they couldn't leave room for others. Sure, there are wingnuts in this community, but that's because we are human. But overall, I have found a community of friends and family that are my support, that remind me in my darkest times that there is hope.

This election is about that. If we don't make it over the top this time, we will the next time, or the time after. This is a wave. It is forging a consciousness, a community, an aesthetic and an ethic. Changes in the environment don't change our sense of belonging or identity or community.

You don't talk in your piece about the death of the labor unions in this country, and you wouldn't. You are too young to understand the extent to which they served as a balance and as a voice for the people. Sure, not all the people, and there was plenty of corruption, but the unions spoke for the middle class loud and strong. Without the unions, we now see government in control of the corporations. If a modern progressive movement can unify the middle class and demonstrate real power against the corporations, well, perhaps there is a light at the end of the tunnel after all.

Thanks again to all of you 20s and 30s for your courage and audacity. It is your world and you are doing great.


by dsolomonmetis on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:31:00 AM EST

Something New (none / 0)

Did you mean to say the corporations control the government?

As for the '60s "revolution", it went down in a hail of bullets. The present administration is a continuation of the Nixon regime that used every power of the military-industrial complex to stop the progressive movement.

The generational bullshit is unhelpful at best. The "greatest generation" was forged by the depression and WWII.  Since then events have not been compelling enough to bring a generation together. The "baby boomers" are a divided group as is every "generation" since.

Tactics must continue to change because the opponents of social progress have used government and corporate power to render old tactics ineffective.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 01:48:54 PM EST
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Experimenting in politics is the legacy of the New Deal.  FDR created that alphabet-soup of agencies to work on a variety of problems, giving each agency the charge to make a difference in people's lives.  If one approach didn't work, the imperative was to try another.  Not a bad model.


by nj progressive on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 07:52:57 AM EST

Mind readers among us (none / 0)

That's Friedmanism, the ability to be impressed by someone from a demographic you despise, provided he says exactly what you think. For Friedman it's brown-skinned third-world cab-drivers, for you it's sixties baby boomers.

Such insight you have, Del C.  Now, my insight tells me that the demographic you despise is everyone.  Wow, that was easy.  Mind reading is fun.

Believe it or not, it's possible to disagree with someone, to become exasperated with someone -- yes, even to consider someone thick -- without despising him or her.  I've never seen a thing from Chris to indicate he deserved your words.


by xebecs on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:08:23 AM EST

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The spirit of the 60's died for me during those terrible months in late 1980, when first Reagan won the presidency and ushered in his horrible revolution, and then a month later Lennon was shot dead and with it the last embers of the 60's. From then on it would be ever more phony right-wing moralizing, corporatist soullessness and commercialization of reality, and a retreat into fake patriotism and abject stupidity. Rarely have two major events that bookmarked the end of one era and the start of the next come so close to each other.

Well, it appears that we might be coming upon the closing bookend to the "Reagan Revolution" (oh please god make it so) this Tuesday. If the GOP loses as big as it's expected to lose, no way does Reagan and Bush-style "conservatism" recover from it. They'll go through their death throes over the next couple of years, and they'll surely be back someday, but for now, they're going down, and hard.

Karma may not have been instant here, but I imagine that it's finally coming back to bite the Repubs in the ass. All we are saying is give Dems a chance. And if we retake the house and senate, that'll be some double fantasy. That's no mind game.

Sorry, couldn't resist. And yes, that was awful. ;-)


by kovie on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:42:58 AM EST

The Times They are a-Changin' (none / 0)

Yes, let's "try something new." We always have. There is a golden thread connecting the activists of past and present that cannot be broken even if we wanted to.

You say that John Lennon was writing songs before you were born; Joe Hill was writing them before my father was born. My grandfather lived near San Pedro after an anti-union San Francisco blacklist 300 miles north had shut him out of every construction job in Northern California. Joe Hill was organizing on the San Pedro docks that year.

Times have changed; you're right. Times have changed because we've changed them.

I see Joe Hill in my dreams, alive as you or me. I hear Woody Guthrie in the same dreams because this country is ours, not theirs. I know that Pete Seeger is right, that we will overcome some day, and certainly I can imagine all the people living life in peace.

You can be in my dream if I can be in yours.


by stevehigh on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:43:20 AM EST

I never died said he (none / 0)

The progressive movement of the '60s was built on the progressive movement that developed in the depression. Joe Hill is alive and well evey time we organize on the internet.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 01:54:58 PM EST
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Lennon and a few others never sold out. I despise the sell-outs, like Bob Dylan.  Lennon would have never gone on to write inane ditties. I didn't have anything to listen to for years because I lost my vinys and nostalgic rock is little more than elevator music. Thank goodness for Indie music and the Internet, so there is a market for their music besides selling cds at their concerts. And thank goodness for iTunes so I can get all my old favorites without spending a fortune. I have every old Bob Dylan protest song.  

Rock is defined by its badness . So called rock stars are making commercials for financial institutions. That's pop, not rock. The hippies morphed into yuppies, the radical african american group got replaced by evangelicals. don't flame me ploease, it's jmo. Lennon was turning over in his grave, but he can rest now.  


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 08:59:01 AM EST

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Just because Bob Dylan stopped writing "finger pointing songs" as he put it doesn't mean he sold out.


by Lucas O'Connor on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 11:54:02 AM EST
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Sorry Lucas, I haven't spent much time online. I've been sleeping since Tuesday ... lilterally. I was so exhausted from phone banking, waking my precinct, then working the voting machines from  a.m. to 10:00 p.m. on election day. Then II had to put my house back in order because I lived, ate, and drank the election. Whew! It was soooooooo worth it, even if my guy (Jim Davis) didn't win.

I was eighteen the year Alice Cooper released his I"'m 18"song (just to put my age in perspective towhar was being played during my more youthful years.) Yes, Dylan sold out. I have this argument with my kids all the time. He went from writing and singing real music to inane didtties like lay lay lay, knocking on Heaven's Door. You have probably heard Dylans protest songs. How many did he write afte he went electric? His long time fans who (who made him famous) would throw tomatoes at him at concerts when he first turned electric. Younger people who like Bub Dylan didn't have to endure the Reagan years. Don't you think someone had something to say about Reagan? Dead silence.   The only music that I can think of at the top of my head that said something about the $hit that was going on was a group called the Drive By Truckers that I  never even heard about until a couple of years ago. I had never even heard of the Pixies until a couple of years ago.  I have to go back and research and go on iTunes to listen to the real music that never got airtime.

I had to endure the Reagan years.The sell outs kept on singing about that same unmemorable crap. Eric Clapton went from re doing great songs like Crossroads to writing inane ditties like Cocaine. Boy that made him a lot of money. GInger Baker never had a chance with his funny looks. When the Rolling Stones first became famous in the 60's they were a r&b band. There was a call in survey on one of the radio stations and more people didn't like the stones that liked them.  They started writing more commercially appealable songs, although they still put a  r & b song every now and then. I can't find  Mick Jagger's outstanding rendition of "Little Red Rooster" anywhere, just a very awful live version done years later.

The black rockers never got a chance after FM turned commerciial. Rhythm and blues d-i-e-d..  Jimmy Hendrix would never been heard in the 80's. He would have been forced to play small concerts in clubs. There're no more blacks in rock. No more women. No more unattractive people. No more rhythm and blues. (I know I keep saying that.)

Natalie Maines is more of a rocker than most of them put togehther. I can't think of one of them did didley (except U2) before she opened her big mouth.  In any event, to each his own. My Dylan iMix is listed below. You will notice that I do have a couple of electric songs, but to be honest, now that I have all my acoustic favorites, I hardly listen to them.

Subterranean Homesick Blues
Blowin' in the Wind
The Times They Are A-Changin'
Girl from the North Country
Maggie's Farm
Man of Constant Sorrow
One Too Many Mornings
A Hard Rain's A Gonna Fall
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
Mr. Tambourine Man (one of my all time favorite songs)
Baby, Let Me Follow You Down
Gates of Eden
It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)

IMO, you can't name one song that he has written and performed that's worth the paper it;'s written on, since them.  We had such high hopes in the sixties. You can't really put blame on anyone or any institution. Springsteen says it very well in Devils and Dust. "What if what you do to survive
Kills the things you love"

Fvck Bob Dylan, Fvck Eric Clapton, Fvck the Jefferson Starship, (they even changed their name.)  and the rest of them. They deserve to be played in stores and elevators. Maybe our children's children's will never hear "spoonful" "crossroads" and all the great blues songs. Maybe they will never hear the great protest songs, because they will never get air time on "nostalgia? stations ever.  Maybe girls will never be able to make it as rockers anymore. Maybe a black musician will only be able to make it in hip hop. Until then, Fvck the music industry. I can get better music for free on betterProganda.

The day John Lennon was killed, my musid died.  

Be well,
amy (aka misscee)


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 10:52:40 AM EST
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Lennon didn't "sell out"? He was just writing songs (including some pretty catchy pop ditties) for the biggest rock band evah...

In the early days he used to prod his band mates with stuff like "where are we going? To to Toppermost of the Poppermost!". He certainly wasn't aiming to be a starving, but righteous, artist. He wanted to Make It. And he did, in spades. He worked with The Man, man.

Funny how his reputation in some circles was cleansed after his stint with radical politics (and radical nutcases). A period, incidentally, with the least interesting musical output (Sometime in NYC, blechh).

Don't get me wrong, I've loved his stuff since I was about 10 (a couple years after the Beatles disbanded). But you know, he was just a guy who was a brilliant musician and pretty mixed up in many other ways. I'm now older than he ever got to be. Now that is scary.

In case you haven't noticed, everyone is making music for ads. How about my favorite indie band, Spoon (Jaguar); or Yo La Tengo (Coke, Orange phones - check their web site). Or are they too "pop" since they are musicians before messengers?

Sell out is just another word for I'm holier than thou.


by kvenlander on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 12:39:26 PM EST
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BS.  He wasn't trying to "make it" for its own sake.  He wanted to be famous because he knew as well as anyone that you only get your message into people's heads if they're listening.  He was one of the first grand masters of packaging subversive messages in catchy hooks, whether musical or otherwise.


by Lucas O'Connor on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 12:44:00 PM EST
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Was it a millionaire who said "imagine no possessions"?
A poor little schoolboy who said "we don't need no lessons"?

-- Elvis Costello


by kvenlander on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 05:26:24 PM EST
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And?


by Lucas O'Connor on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:09:52 PM EST
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Dylan lost a lot of brain Cells (none / 0)

Calling him a sell out is pointless. He can't do what he used to do.


Children, have you any fish?
by FishOutofWater on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 01:59:52 PM EST
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Wow. What a wonderful Sunday morning reading treat.

I remember reading that the "Creative Class" (a.k.a. the cultural creatives?) were growing at 1% per year. That being the natural pool of progressives bodes well for the movement.

The contemporary American progressive movement is an odd mix of modernism (authenticity, meritocracy, and the liberal, Enlightenment long march of progress that eschews, quick radical change) and postmodernism (the abandonment of fixed identity, the mistrust of, and de-mooring from, large institutions, as well as the general tendency to be playful).

That's a great description of the progressive movement plus one of best short-hand descriptions of modernism/post-modernism I've read.

Great video, too!


---

Help Keep Wild, Wonderful, West Virginia Blue

by SLJ on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:11:38 AM EST

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Whatever works is fine by me.   I just want the DC/K Street owned and operated Democrat and Republican politicians the hell out of my government.  This is why Lamont winning is so important to our cause.  It will be the "shot heard round the belt way world".  11/8/2008 we start to take on the Dems.  They are either with the people or with corporate America.  This is my country, and I want it back for me, my children and my my grandchildren; and I don't give a damn who we do it as long as we do it.  Go Progressive Netroots!!!!  We are the third party.  


by dkmich on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:15:38 AM EST

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Going back to the "neoliberal" days, I always figured the Democratic party had to find a home for the creative and technical professionals, if they ever wanted to stem losses from the lessened power of unions.

Face it: Most conventional business and sales types are going to vote Republican. That's OK, if we can meld the creative and technical professionals (and entreprenuers) with the working people, we can have a coalition for the ages.


by Bush Bites on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:41:28 AM EST

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I'm an old boomer who is very tuned in to absolutely everything in this post. It sounds a lot like my thoughts, except I'm old and not a very good writer.

This is one fantastic post, with some of the best observations I have read about today's movement(s) (... and I have read a LOT of great ones, because the Internet has it all).

Now, I've got to go see that film...

Thank You!!!


by klevenstein on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 09:44:52 AM EST

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For what it's worth, the college/arts town I live in lost all electricity last night for about three hours, the only light being an amazingly bright full moon.  Walking around town it seemed like everyone was out, talking, passing along what they knew and getting to know people that they usually blow by but don't talk to.  The usual sound of traffic replaced by folks outside playing music and a sense of total calm - very surreal.
The point being that there is genuinely 'something in the air', at least in my neck of the woods.
by Karatist Preacher on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:13:40 AM EST

Election year Films: OT (none / 0)

Have been watching Hacking Democracy and just getting more and more pissed off as the film continues.  Diebold needs to be wiped off the face of the earth.


by yitbos96bb on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:34:52 AM EST

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Speaking for the sixties generation, when I started going to political meetings a couple of years ago, I was very aware and very depressed by all of the grey hair in the room, and I think that was a common worry.  "Where are the younger people?  It's impossible for us to do this alone,"  I thought, and said out loud,
"look at all of the grey hair," and shook my head, and found general agreement.  We feared that we were out there alone trying to save democracy.  We marched, and when we were ignored and belittled and marginalized, we knew it wasn't working.  But we needed your energy, your ideas, your leadership, and I think we all knew it, and we just feared that it wasn't going to come.
And so you all were gearing up at the same time, and we have come together.  I, for one, am very relieved, and heartened by that.
by syolles on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:44:21 AM EST

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Hey Chris, that was one of the most inspiring things I've read in a long time.  But this was the most important line:

"Don't worship it because it validates your identity. Don't demand that everyone follow the same path in order to continue to validate your identity."  

We all need to keep this in mind.  


by Reece on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:55:13 AM EST

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You basically have it right. You cannot be faulted for depending upon history written by the winners. The sixties and early seventies were a time when a hell of a lot of kids who were the first generation to grow up on tv all came of age at once. Tv and an exceptionally large bulge in the population demographic were the cause of the sixties. Throw in cheap at home music and the realization that marijuana was safe and you have the makings of a real social population bomb.

Of course the right was freaked out. The Reagan reaction that has continued through the Bushes is just that a reaction.

And now that the our kids have grown we find ourselves once again with free time. And a new medium, the Internet. Just as we turned the new medium of tv to our advantage, so are we and our kids turning the Internet to our advantage. But the right learned quickly, and tv was a perfect analog for their top-down models of organization. I don't see them being able to use the internet as successfully. But they still have power and money and will be able to use it, even if not as well as we can use it.

The sixties were amazing, but just a population anomaly caused by depression and war. They are not worth glamorizing nor criticizing.


Jeff Wegerson - PrairieStateBlue
by wegerje on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 11:18:37 AM EST

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I cannot agree more, Chris. Thank you very much for such a truly outstanding post. You've moved the ball down the field quite a bit with this one. My compliments, as you already know you have my greatest respect.


by Sun Tzu on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 12:03:37 PM EST

I Find It Odd, Chris, (3.00 / 3)

that--particularly at the end of this post--you refer to yourself as a "former left-wing radical."

A radical is one who wants to attack problems at their roots, rather than just trimming the branches.  The Lennon quote "OK, we tried Flower Power. It didn't work. So what? Now, let's try something else." is the very essence of radicalism, since Flower Power itself was radical, but attachment to it when it didn't work was not.

Likewise, your analysis of the 2004 election was radical.  Your proposals that grew out of it--about expanding the liberal base and tarnishing conservatism, about running candidates in House race--were radical.  Your continuing search for new strategies and tactics--MyDD's poll, the Googlebomb, etc.--are radical.  As with all things radical, they can be appropriated by others, of course.  But it's clear where they are coming from.

Maybe this is easier for me to see and say, since I've been at this longer, and when I was just a kid, the Communist Party, the Socialist Workers, etc. were already obvious dinosaurs.  Harry Hay had to leave the Communist Party to start the gay liberation movement. Women's liberation came from a lot of places, but the CP and SWP weren't on the list.  The environmental movement--ditto.  So, for me, radicalism was always already a postmodern, polycentric thing.  This may seem like something new today:

The contemporary American progressive movement is an odd mix of modernism (authenticity, meritocracy, and the liberal, Enlightenment long march of progress that eschews, quick radical change) and postmodernism (the abandonment of fixed identity, the mistrust of, and de-mooring from, large institutions, as well as the general tendency to be playful).
But this was just as true of the 1960s, and, for that matter the 1910s.  The folks who organize the big institutional side of things tend to leave the biggest historical footprint, so it leaves a distorted image.  But what made large protests effective in the 1960s (and they were effectively, believe me) was the fact that they grew out of an organic culture.  It was the culture that held the real power.  The demonstrations demonstrated it.

Today, as always, the radical thing is to build the real power.  Do that, and the demonstrations, whatever form they take, will follow.

And, from where I stand, that's what you've been doing as long as I've been around this site.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 01:17:51 PM EST

Somethings New & Somethings Unchanging (3.00 / 1)

I wish I had the time to write more about all the great insights included in this thread, prompted by Chris' thoughtful post.  It contains the seeds of a book worth writing sometime....or maybe a very long Wikipedia page we could all contribute to.

As I read the post and comments, I couldn't help but share Karatist Preacher's sense that "there is genuinely 'something in the air'".  

I was also struck by SLJ's linking of Chris' term "Creative Class" to a term I personally relate to--"Cultural Creatives" (I strongly recommend a book by the same name).   My interpretation of the term Creative Class (which could be wrong) is that it mainly focuses on the mental, tech-oriented and "modern" forms of creation, while the term Cultural Creatives speaks more to a felt connection to the earth, nature, community and "spiritual" values...and, as such, it's better able to encompass some of the more grounded and civic-minded elements within the "new age" movement and potentially even some of the more open-minded and open-hearted members of what has been dubbed the "crunchy cons."  Or maybe there is no difference in the two terms and my own distinction reflects my age and ignorance of the experience of younger generations of the "creative class."

As I read the thread I also found myself remembering earlier social, political and "mass consciousness" moments that felt like turning points in our society and also in my own life.  One of the earliest was JFK's assassination (around the time of my bar mitzvah), followed later in the decade by the assassinations and political turmoil of 1968 (when I went off to college at Univ. of Michigan), then by Woodstock (a life-shifting experience, but more mixed for me than the movie suggests); anti-war movements and marches, mixed with various forms of "consciousness raising" efforts during my college years; my travels outside the country after graduation, and the culture shock I felt on my return, which occurred amidst the Watergate hearings, a Mideast war (I'd just spent three months in Israel, including a month in Jerusalem, a month in a Kibbutz near the Lebanese border, and a few weeks traveling around the Sinai desert) followed by a major gas crisis; and the time I spent during those days sitting in front of the TV watching cable's text-based news scrolls report breaking developments and sensing the significance of this "new" technology (this was well before CNN's launch).  Then, after another round of hitchhiking around the country, which culminated in an outdoor Grateful Dead/Allman Brothers party at Watkins Glenn, NY and another "peak-experience" Dead concert in Buffalo, I immersed myself in a life of meditation and service, having decided that real change and real peace has to come from the inside out, and that this applied to me personally, not just in theory...and that, as Jerry Garcia said, the Dead were a "signpost to new space," but might not be the vehicle that would allow me to live in that new space on a regular basis.

Fast forward to 1980, when my brother and I re-converge back in Ann Arbor from our respective "spiritual immersions" to participate in the Citizens Party presidential campaign of environmentalist Barry Commoner, including a fascinating and substantive debate between Barry and the Libertarian Party candidate at the U of M campus, and me getting the chance to chat with Barry, a very smart, pragmatic, unassuming, honest, energetic and likeable guy, as I drove him to the airport for his next stop.  Among the lessons of that campaign were the value of remaining "centered" in the heat of a political campaign, and the fact that the mass media gave Barry significant attention only once--when he said the word "shit."  That, plus the to-me-unfathomable and mass-delusional election of Ronald Reagan, triggered a return to grad school to study the media and telecom industries (including how they relate to the political process), followed by a career as an industry analyst with a quiet but enduring passion for the transformational potential of electronic media.

Fast forward again about 25 years, and here we are today, co-creating on a massive but still very human scale the phenomenon we refer to as the "netroots."  I second Syolles comment that:

Speaking for the sixties generation...we needed [young persons'] energy, your ideas, your leadership, and I think we all knew it, and we just feared that it wasn't going to come.  And so you all were gearing up at the same time, and we have come together.  I, for one, am very relieved, and heartened by that.

And a special thanks to Chris, who has shown himself to be a very creative, capable, determined and hard-working member of this community.  Thanks, not only for your leadership and hard work, but also for your honesty and courage at a time when both have been in short supply but sorely needed in the political arena.

Yes, it's time to try something new in terms of strategy and tactics (and will continue to be so).  But, as this intelligent and heartfelt thread of discussion reminds me,  it's also time to remember the common and enduring purpose and fundamental values that can bridge virtually any divide as to generation, class, ethnicity, lifestyle and, dare I say, religion.  The netroots combines high levels of flexibility and creativity with a fundamental-values-rich sense of humanity, and applies it to civic society.  It's that combination that, in my view, has the potential to take the current wave of political anger and transform it into the next major wave in the evolution toward true democracy and human freedom.  

The late-60s and early-70s may have been a time when a lot of energy was unleashed and struggled against the shackles of longstanding constrictions.  And yes, that made it exciting, but also kinda crazy and imbalanced.  I think what we're seeing today is a maturing of that adolescent phase of the current multi-decade cycle on the road to human freedom.  We have a growing set of technology tools, we've got decades of experience and lessons learned, and we've got significant portions of multiple generations in a growing alignment that's not afraid "to let go of the past" and that takes to heart Chris' call to rise to the occasion as it exists today, not as we may remember or wish it to be:

Maybe you need more courage to change the way you understand who you are even if you have followed one path for several years, or even multiple decades. Whatever it is, you need to get past it, and be willing to try something that actually works. If you aren't willing to do that, did you ever really care about the principles you were trying to achieve, or did you just care about being perceived as someone trying to achieve those ends?

Couldn't have said it better myself (or to myself, who can always use the reminder).


by mitchipd on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 03:39:06 PM EST

Damn (Awesome Post) (none / 0)

Me likey alot, kudos Chris. And please keep up all the hard and awesome work!


by Legionnaire on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 06:00:16 PM EST

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Yes, good idea.

But...

I take exception to the idea that if the election of 2006 does not 'go the way we want it...' we should abandon what we have been doing since 2002 or so.

That's bullshit.

You have to give peace a chance dude and a couple of years is not a real chance when the 'conservatives' have been at this fascist thing for a couple of thousand.


by Pericles on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 10:55:00 PM EST

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Howdy,

I enjoyed your post.  I very much support exploring various kinds of conversation about modern-postmodern dialectics in values and practices.

Three considerations:

1. On globalization:  Left political movements around the globe (whether international or in specific states) are often a good deal more radical than that in the U.S. Today, many progressive/radical movements in the third world are fighting for structural change. Socialists are victorious in political battles across Latin America. In Europe, the political center is left of here. The U.S. left is conservative politically compared to much of the rest of the world.

Thankfully, globalization of progressive cultural forces and political movements are just as much a real trend as the globalization of neoliberal economics and consumerism. The analysis and focus here and on dKos and in some of the most popular of the "progressive" U.S. political blogs needs to be broadened in scope.

In the U.S., the left will certainly have to be creative but it also may well have to get more radical, in terms of structural transformation, to move beyond two parties which server dominant capitalist interests. Ironically, perhaps the left here will catch up with other progressive movements as the power of the U.S. declines and shifting multi-lateral global political struggles open up spaces for progressive global political forces and progressive state and networks of states as actors. (There is also of course a dialectic between local organizing and larger national and international movement structures.)

2. On broad cycles of movement formation: To restate a point that several have made above...

In response to social movement theorists who starting in the 1980s and moreso in the 1990s argued that we were seeing a rise of new social movements based on identity formation and fluid networks:

Tilly, a sociologist who has made a career long study of cultural and structural poltical processes in a wide array of modern social movements, has argued that some broad social movement cycles (19th c., early 20th c, or contemporary) have had a fluid creative start but ended up institutionalized.  That is, early organic periods of movement formation look experimental, organic, networky, and focused on identity formation. Examples include the 19th c. suffrage movement, labor movements (eg, Wobblies kinds of efforts-->AFLCIO), 60s movements (eg, Feminist mov-->NOW), and perhaps now the WSF-ification of the global justice/anti-globalization movement. However...

Maturation of a movements leads to power consolidation, institutionalization and compromises with establish power bases. A reaction may set in, reestablishing "conservative" interests (by elites and for cultural norms of the day), or a new status quo evolves. New resistances eventually form -- partly from the persistence and transformation of more networky parts of the original creative movement cultures. There is an ongoing centuries long dialectic of fluid and stable progressive cultures -- ever since the first modern states and social movements formed in the 18th century.  

While new tactics, technologies, social forms and understandings may evolve over time, some of the dynamics of new emerging movements may be similar to dynamics of previous new rounds of movement formation.

3. On recent U.S. progressive history: This site is an attempt through progressive politicing to make broad changes in mainstream U.S. politics. Yes? To create a new progressive politics, we need understand our progressive history -- in its radical and comprising movements.  

An aside, some of my background: I am someone who was born on the approx. boundry of boomer/x gens. In the 80s, I unintentionally recapitulated some of the spiritual seeking by John Lennon, Harrison and the Beetle's during the 60s. I explored some of the specific paths/trips they looked into: TM, Macrobiotics, chemical mind expansion.  (Um, while those particular cultural movements were quite flawed, they were expressions of the deeper aspects of what the flower power moment was another cultural expression -- exploring the nature of inner reality through subtle experience -- and in the case of the "Beetle's explorations," also through rational analytical means -- which continues to evolve today in such expressions as progressive western buddhism and secular mystical inquiry). After that inner trip (which I kept up through ongoing permutations of inner inquiry), I turned to greenish politics and then less party based and more pragmatic organizing stuff when...

The U.S. Greens fell flat due to the majority wins all structure of U.S. politics and the failure of the Greens to focus on local grass roots party building. The progressive movement today would do well to contemplate why the U.S. Green failed in the 1990s.


by justsayin on Sun Nov 05, 2006 at 11:46:36 PM EST


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