Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President

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The diary below was originally posted in my blog the Intrepid Liberal Journal.



I was raised Jewish but my personal beliefs are agnostic. I'm not so arrogant to reject the concept of a higher power. I don't claim to know what the divine truth is and reserve the right to have a deathbed conversion when I reach old age.


For the time being I'm inclined to believe a higher power is really a more evolved life form that doesn't respond to prayer or monitor my personal morality meter. In my opinion John Lennon put it best:


"God is a concept by which we measure our pain."

However, I respect religious people. Furthermore I believe it makes sense for Democrats to persuade those motivated by the social responsibility component of religion to be part of a progressive coalition. It's always better to add members to a coalition and not subtract. We progressives need all the numbers we can get.


Individuals motivated to promote social justice because of their religion are natural allies for the progressive movement. Those of us on the left who snicker at religious individuals should take a hard look in the mirror: many religious people travel to dangerous hot spots to save lives because of their faith based moral compass. How many of us are feeding impoverished people in Sudan?


While phone banking prior to the mid term elections I met a fellow volunteer studying to be a minister and angered by the Christian Right's homophobia. He explained that part of his motivation to get out the vote was reclaiming a piece of the national conversation for the religious left. I respect that.


That said I believe too many religious people don't respect secular individuals such as myself. Sadly, if you believe the polls, many religious people in America will not cast their vote for a secular minded person regardless of their other virtues. This is a taboo that must be addressed head on.


Consequently I would like to see an atheist emerge as a national candidate in 2008. Who that could be I have no idea. Nor do I expect such a candidate to prevail. It is my hope that an eminently respectable citizen with stature would illustrate that non-religious people have values and can be entrusted with power. A vital contribution would be made to our society if such a candidate emerged.


How about an old fashioned conservative who believes in personal responsibility, fiscal discipline and civil liberties running in the Republican Party? Wouldn't it be wonderful if an attractive atheist candidate with a photogenic family took on the GOP's radical Christians? I suspect many secular minded civil libertarians would be both relieved and appreciative.


How about a Democratic candidate that aggressively courts civil libertarians who have traditionally supported the Republican Party? Perhaps many of these libertarians might give the Democratic Party another look if an avowed atheist championed the banner that Americans don't require a morality police regulating personal choices.


Among the more painful memories I have from 2004 was Howard Dean attempting to appeal to religious voters and misquoting the New Testament. Dean who otherwise was refreshingly authentic appeared to be a fish out of water. How terrible that preserving the viability of his candidacy required not appearing overly secular.


Again, I respect religious people and have no problem with candidates articulating how their faith motivates them to achieve social justice. Nevertheless, secular people are also moral, have families and should not be embarrassed by what they are. Put another way: I'll compare my morals with Pat Robertson's anytime.


If neither party welcomes an atheist candidacy than a sensible self-financing independent might be what is needed. Typically, I am an advocate of a strong publicly financed campaign system. However, any independent candidacy that hopes to make a statement about atheists having a place in the national conversation will require funding outside of public financing.


Barriers of race, gender, minority religions and sexual orientations are finally being tackled in our politics. Hillary Clinton is considered the presumptive frontrunner for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination in 2008. Barack Obama is also considering a run for higher office and could have a realistic shot at the nomination. Several years ago President Clinton appointed the first female Secretary of State in Madeline Albright. In 2000 Al Gore had a Jewish running mate.


President Bush's first Secretary of State was a black man and currently a black woman fills the position. Minnesota just elected the first Muslim congressman in Keith Ellison. Congressman Barney Frank, a homosexual is about to assume the chairmanship of the House Financial Services Committee.


Regardless of how you feel about any of the names referenced above their symbolism is important. For example I've heard Keith Ellison say he hopes to be viewed as a congressman who happens to be Muslim instead of a Muslim congressman. By breaking a barrier he makes it possible for other Muslim citizens to be accepted as candidates. Hopefully future Muslim candidates will be voted up or down because of their credentials, character and experience instead of their religion.


Every time I read a poll that says candidates must be people of faith to be considered viable by religious voters I cringe. It shouldn't be that way. First we need to break a barrier and have an atheist throw their hat in the ring. Hopefully a courageous trailblazer will enable the public to perceive future individuals as candidates who happen to be atheists instead of an "atheist candidate." And that will be better for everyone.


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Tips, Flames, Perhaps An Excorcism ... (3.00 / 1)


Intrepid Liberal Journal
by Intrepid Liberal Journal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 11:05:29 PM EST

Agreed (3.00 / 1)

And, if there is any hope for Atheists in the future, it just so happens that these recent generations of Americans not only happen to be more secular and Democratic, but more Atheistic-Agnostic-Deistic or just Apathetic to religion. I mean, after all, non-Christians are one of the fastest growing Demographics in this country... In 20 years, the concept of non-religious or even Atheists as politicians, in my opinion, will not only become widely accepted, but the norm.


by KainIIIC on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 12:14:53 AM EST

Re: Agreed (3.00 / 1)

Kain... Non-Christians refers to religious and NON-religious people... Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Wiccans, Scientologists etc, all fall within this catergory.

Unfortunately, the only way for non-religious and religious folk to peacefully coexist is through tolerance and compromise... unfortunately the firebrands on both side, who are usually a lot more vocal on their opinions will never let it happen... too many refuse to believe in compromise and like spoiled children want things 100% their way... an attitude that has taken control of the country (starting in Jan of 1995) and is in truth destroying the country.  This general feeling of course extends beyond non-religious and religious people to nearly ever hotbutton social topic as well as hawks and doves, etc.  


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 10:38:26 AM EST
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Re: Agreed (none / 0)

well, I don't remember the statistics exactly, but non-christians made up around 18% of the electorate in 2000 and around 20.5% of the electorate in 2004... The growth of Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Wiccans and Scientologists did NOT amount to 2.5% in these 4 years. Infact, the Jews are in a long-term falling in terms of population growth, so their numbers are more likely to go DOWN than up. In addition, Jews, Wiccans(very small numbers), and Scientologists(again, very small numbers) are all Democratic-leaning in the first place... I don't know the statistics for Hindus, Sikhs or Buddhists, but I presume they are slightly more Democratic than not (and this comes from experience from individuals too, as I haven't met any Republicans of those groups). Muslims on the other hand are more conservative than other religious minorities, and I believe Bush carried them in 2000, but do to innate Republican prejudice against them, Kerry carried them in 2004... again, I can't point to statistics here exactly.

But anyhow, while Atheists/Agnostics/Deists/Secularists may NOT be growing at a 2.5% rate, it is definetely safe to say that they are growing at a faster rate in proportion to the rest of the population, usually because the younger generation, especially generation Y, are much more likely to fall under those groups. Their growth between 2000 and 2004 probably amounted to something more like 1% to 1.5%.


by KainIIIC on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 03:01:30 PM EST
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Re: Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President (3.00 / 1)

I'd be satisfied if a congressperson or senator came out of the closet as an atheist.  There are gays, Jews and hispanics in congress, and they all represent smaller demographics than the non-religious.  I mean, there has to be a few, just going by the odds.  My back of the envelope calculations show that there's about a 1 in 1 trillion chance of there being zero non-theists in congress, even assuming that politicians are twice as pious as the population at large.

My pick for atheist for higher office would be Ron Reagan.  He's said before that he wouldn't run because he's not electable, not that he's not interested.  I think he should find a nice blue district where a Democrat is retiring and run in 2008.


by fwiffo on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 01:58:54 AM EST

Re: Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President (3.00 / 1)

There are several Congressmen who list themselves as having "no religious affiliation," but I'm not sure that means "atheist."


by Tom on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 10:26:34 AM EST
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Re: Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President (none / 0)

Really?  I'd be curious to know who - is there a list somewhere?


by fwiffo on Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 10:49:41 AM EST
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I know he CLAIMS he's not electable. (none / 0)

I don't think so... I think he very easilly could be, on name recognition alone.

If I remember right he lives in Suburban Seattle.

-C.


by neutron on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 08:01:31 PM EST
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Re: Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President (3.00 / 2)

My religious convictions, or lack thereof, are none of your damed business. You have no right, or need to know, anything about what I believe, or do not believe. I maintain my freedom, and whatever you think about it does not matter.

Someday, if the mood strikes me, I may suddenly harangue you about the divine glories of mescaline or DMT. But not today.

A person's spiritual orientation, Christan, Jewish, Muslim, Shaman, Hindu, Siek, Atheist, Buddhist, whatever, is strictly of secondary significance. All of these paths are infected with demonic ogres -- but they are also home to individuals of great spirit and human decency and kindheartedness and tolerance.

I am not overly concerned about the form of any individuals spirituality. All that matters is their stock of human decency and kindheartedness and tolerance. If they bear these latter qualities, then they have my support in all endeavors.


by blues on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 03:48:52 AM EST

Re: Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President (3.00 / 2)

Opinion polls on what people believe about religion are highly suspect. For one thing they suffer from the well-known effect where people will report things about themselves that reflect better than report more truthfully. So, most people feel that answering "atheist" will get some disapproval from the questioner and thus chose some other answer. After all why reveal something so personal to a perfect stranger?

The same goes for church attendance. People report at about a 40% rate, but surveys of actual attendance come in at about 20%. About 15% of the population answers "none" to religious affiliation, we can, therefore, expect that the figure his actually higher.

Having said that, it is still almost impossible for an outspoken non-believer to get elected. Running is not about attracting voters, but rather not turning off people. We have had many (obviously) non-religious office holders. Reagan is a good example, as is Howard Dean. Even GWB in non-religious in the traditional sense. The fact that he has talks with god makes him delusional, but not religious. He only attends religious functions when it serves a political purpose.

So, non-believers will continue to obfuscate their position in order to get elected. Better they do this and then support Enlightenment values when in office then stand up for their beliefs publicly and fail to get elected. We already have enough religious hypocrites in office...


---Policies not Politics
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by rdf on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 09:51:47 AM EST

Re: Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President (3.00 / 1)

John Lennon said it best:

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Sorry John, but your ideas were a couple hundred years ahead of those of a society still wrapped firmly in a blanket of medieval superstitions and beliefs.

Maybe when the radiation clears after the next Christian/Muslim holy war the world might finally be ready to judge a presidential candidate on his qualifications rather than his religious beliefs.


by Slapmaxwell on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 10:00:01 AM EST

Religion: Indians & Asian Americans (3.00 / 1)

This is why I ruled out ever running for politics. I am an agnostic who can be called an atheist on most days.

I know the children of a lot of Indian immigrants tend to be agnostic. One factor is that Hinduism is a pretty fluid religion. Another is that the parents are more concerned with passing down traditions rather than religious beliefs to their kids.

I think a lot of Chinese kids are the same way, though they tend to convert to Christianity more than the Indian kids. Koreans seem to stand out as the most religious of the Asian immigrants, at least from a layman's perspective(I could be wrong on this, just a personal observation).


by Pravin on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 10:05:22 AM EST

BTW, as a proud Seculur Humanist. (3.00 / 1)

Aka: Bill O'Reilly's worst nightmare.

I salute this post.

i've got no problems with peoples dogma, I just wish my rights to not have one pushed on me weren't constantly being infringed.

-C.


by neutron on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 08:02:26 PM EST

Re: Wanted: An Atheist Candidate For President (none / 0)

Atheist is just a person who believes that there
is no god. How about a person who KNOWS that there
is no god? Will you vote for an educated person
rather than for a BELIEVER?

Problem is: USA population is so brainwashed,
that still between 70% and 90% of people still
believe in God, see recent Harris poll:
http://harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll /index.asp?PID=707

So politicians are forced to lie and fake. Surprise...


by WeNeed3rdParty on Thu Nov 30, 2006 at 09:45:50 PM EST


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