In all seriousness...

When it comes to my post on Rahm from earlier today, my basic tactic was to employ over-the-top, sarcastic scorn on what I find to be preposterous media narratives on how elections are won. There are two specific narratives that I find absurd. First, there is the notion that people win elections by moving to the left, the right or the center. This is one of the most pathetic types of lame, D.C. based thinking used to describe what is ultimately a broadly non-ideological electorate. The second type of narrative, which I find far more preposterous--and actually offensive--is the notion that elections are won by either one or a small handful of high-level consultants / party leaders in some backroom somewhere. That is just flat-out crap, and it need to be called such. Ultimately, voters and the American people swing elections. As much as the media seems to have forgotten, this is still a democracy in America, and when there is a change in power, it happens because the American people wanted a change in power. It didn't happen because they were tricked, scammed, or otherwise manipulated by a small number of consultants and / or party leaders hiding behind a curtain somewhere. Yet still, after every election that results in a change in power, one man behind the curtain or another is anointed by the media as the primary cause of the change in power: Atwater, Carville, Gingrich, Luntz, Begala, Rove, Rahm, etc. The message they want us to hear is that this very small list of people are responsible for changes in power in America, which is just a cynical, patronizing, aristocratic, anti-democratic, bullshit message to send out to Americans and to our democracy.

And there is something else too. Hundreds of thousands--millions--of Democratic and progressive activists contributed to this victory. Moving public opinion for even 5% of the electorate is extremely difficult, and there is no way it could have been accomplished without a broad-based, team effort. Everyone deserves credit and congratulation. However, not everyone is getting credit, and there are even some elements in the leadership of the Democratic Party who want to prevent certain others from receiving any credit. There are those who still say the netroots are destructive to the party, that Howard Dean is destructive to the party, and that the left-wing is destructive to the party. The thing is, that the netroots, Howard Dean and the party's left-wing all worked their asses off to help Democrats win this cycle, and our thanks for that is to be punched in the nose by Carville, Tauscher, Rahm, and a whole bunch of others. That is just offensive and bound to lead to increasing internal strife within the party. We are not Dobson-ites demanding two Supreme Court justices and a Constitutional amendment. A step in the right direction might be to actually say thank you, and that you appreciate our efforts.

Some Democrats can't even do something that simple and courteous. Instead, we are told by many of our most visible "leaders" that we are destructive, harmful, and not wanted. They will enjoy taking our resources, and then distance themselves from us as much as possible while trying to replace our heroes and champions. And then we will be told, both by these Democrats and by the media, that it was a small handful of backroom consultants, who are loved by big donors, that actually scammed the American people into voting for Democrats. Attitudes that like will continue to draw deserved scorn.

The number of people who don't take the netroots seriously or who don't see us as a valuable asset to the Democratic Party and progressive ecosystem is dwindling. However, as we have seen over the past six days, they still clearly exist. The good thing is that it won't be long before established media stops talking about how and why the Democrats won, which means we will be able to sway opinion among the rank-and-file virtually uncontested. When the blogosphere is talking about something that the more established media is not, it is only a matter of time before the majority of the Democratic base comes to agree more with the blogosphere than with the Democratic "leaders" who pour scorn on the netroots. Over 80% of self-identified Democrats favored some form of withdrawal from Iraq before the majority of the Democratic leadership began talking about it themselves. Lieberman's approval rating among Connecticut Democrats dropped from 70% to 40% in only a matter of months before the established media came in and tried to stop the bleeding (which, among the Democratic base, never actually stopped for Lieberman). The key is, while they can talk to news media that can influence low-information voters, every day we are talking to most of the highly influential members of the Democratic rank and file nationwide. Thus, in a news vacuum, we can continue to exert influence on the rank and file, while they cannot. This means that unless they change their tune, and thank everyone who helped Democrats win these elections, it is only a matter of months before many Democratic "leaders," such as Carville, Rahm, and Tauscher, are viewed with scorn by the majority of the Democratic rank and file. This is not a battle they can win. The established media will stop talking post-election narrative in a couple of weeks. We may never stop talking about it.

Just thank everyone, and say everyone's efforts are appreciated and valued. Stop hogging all the credit. If you don't want an ornery base, then don't act ornery to the base. We helped you in this election. You didn't do it alone, no matter what you think.



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Amen, Chris (none / 0)

You've been phenomenal in fighting back this Rahm Scam.

We've disagreed on an issue or two in the past (but we don't have to in the future, because we're on the same side here), despite which I consider you to be an important leader of our progressive movement, owing to your many invaluable contributions to winning this election.

On the lighter side, loved this bit in your snark post :)

When you put a needle on Rahm's nipple, it plays Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys.


by NuevoLiberal on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:54:44 PM EST

Unfortunately (3.00 / 2)

That is the only joke I lifted in the entire piece. I think I heard it in an SNL rant several years back.

But I agree, we are all in this together, and we need to remmeber that. That's the point I want to make to people in this post.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:02:29 PM EST
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Re: Unfortunately (3.00 / 1)

you made it in the last post. The people who didn't get it don't undrestand how humor works. It was funny because it was true of the mindset.  Not to play literary critic, but it was a well done illustration of the point that 'no man is an island.' By putting it in ridiculous terms, you show how ridiculous the people are who claim that any one person can claim this election was about them (well except Bush- he may have the only distinction for that during this election but even he had many on his team contributing to the GOP lose). Actually, I would like to see more on the left doing comic pieces like this. I find that it cuts to the truth more than a thousand well written dissertatiosn on the same subject. Can anyone doubt how idiot bigotry is after watching Borat?


by bruh21 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:15:09 PM EST
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Re: Unfortunately (3.00 / 1)

you could be right. I actualyl worried when writing this post that it would undercut the first one. But I've never been accussed of letting my desire to say something trump my desire to say anything.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:18:00 PM EST
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Re: Unfortunately fortuantely (none / 0)

nice piece - both of them-you could probably say similar about the forces that effect voting----- pre-election. Furthermore it could be said this is about power- where does it come from and more importantly how do we "deal" with it. The conservatives have since antiquity used the idea it is easier to control in a concentrated circle and the liberals have tried to expand the source and expression thereof. It becomes part and parcel to the election process in general. The conservative element within the Democrat Party tries to wrest the power in the fashion of its' nemesis. Of which it should be suspicious- but in the words of Lao-tzu "The Master doesn't talk-he acts- when his work is done the people say "amazing, we did it, all by ourselves"
Peace out baby.
by joggerblogger on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 11:03:43 AM EST
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CHRIS SPEAKS FOR ME n/t (none / 0)


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 01:52:16 AM EST
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Re: In all seriousness... (3.00 / 1)

Who can we get to run in a primary in IL-05 in 2008?


John McCain will privatize social security.
by gunnar on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:17:39 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (3.00 / 2)

 I agree with every sentence, word, and syllable of this post. Just dead on.

 One thing I'd like to add. Remember the 2002 debacle, where the Democrats lost all over the place despite their brilliant strategy of voting for the Iraq War Resolution to "get it off the table before the elections"? There was never any serious talk about relieving then-DNC chair Terry MacAuliffe of his position. Think about it: the Democrats suffered crushing defeats across the board, and no one was held accountable.

 And yet now, after a big win, after the biggest night for the Democratic Party since 1992, there are some elements in the party that are going out of their way to freeze out some of those who were essential to this success. If that doesn't suggest how dysfunctional the party's become over the years, and if this doesn't help explain why the party had to wait so long since its last victory, then I don't know what does.


by Master Jack on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:29:11 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (3.00 / 1)

This has been bugging me for quite a while, because I honestly think that the netroots is, as a segment of the political base, smarter than average, while the leadership of the party tends to treat us like we're dumb.  Or at least naive.  But the GOP, at least in the emails I've seen from them, tends to flatter their base and are repaid in loyalty... while we're treated to yet another fundraising appeal and a big cup of STFU.  So, netroots votes good-- and taken for granted-- netroots volunteerism good, netroots money very good, but netroots opinions apparently suck.

And the thing is, I know it's tougher to deal with smart, opinionated people than it is with well-programmed drones or inattentive suckers; however, if the Dems had been having enough success with those types, the lefty political netroots denizens would have mostly stuck to debate boards and various other hobbies online, instead of stepping up and getting involved.  IIRC, Glenn Greenwald didn't even really vote until he saw how dire the situation was becoming in this country, because he, like so many affluent & educated types, assumed that there was a natural state of equilibrium that made activism unnecessary, if not downright embarrassing.  But that equilibrium was lost, and the people who let it slip away now resent those of us who heard the alarm.  It's really inexcusable, and in some ways I resent it more than I do the administration's shenanigans, because our side really should be better than this.


by latts on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:40:29 PM EST

We'll show em (3.00 / 1)

By participating in the Howard Dean Birthday Card Project! :-)


by pattyp on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:40:52 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

Just to play a bit of devil's advocate here...

I noted a few items in the Rahm feature that shows that Rahm and us are on the same page in some ways.

How so?

IIRC, from Crashing the Gate, Kos and Armstrong advocated against letting single issue groups use purity tests to tank candidates.  Rahm said that he didn't care about purity tests, only that you agreed with the majority of the Dem outlook on the world.  Which is where we get all these moderates.  We did the same thing in supporting the netroots Blue Majority candidates.  Not all of our candidates were ideologically pure.  Especially on the guns issue.

He's also clearly sick of James Carville:

And here were Carville and pollster Stan Greenberg telling him he had to make each of his handpicked candidates shift from attack mode and strike a conciliatory note in their final campaign ads.
and later:
One day in October, another call from James Carville prompted Wade to say in exasperation: "Can we change our number so he doesn't keep calling?"

We went on a mission to try to make safe incumbents pay up.  Rahm was fighting the same cause:

They also protested that when he harangued lawmakers to pay their DCCC dues, he did not recognize how hard it was for black politicians, many of whom represented poorer areas, to raise money.

He was working to get the dues paid in full.

So, the piece was full of half-crazed hero worship.  Rahm's the home town guy.  

And he did do a lot to help us, from record breaking fundraising, to some of the best ads we've seen in a while (not all, plenty of duds - but remember the "coffins" ad?)

Anyway, I don't like Rahm very much.  He did a poor job allocating some resources (Duckworth/Cegelis, the PA candidate, others), and he does show a big-time disregard for grassroots candidates.  But, we worked to make a good number of races competitive, and he dumped money into them and helped put some of them over the top.  Our efforts helped build campaigns (and even win some without Rahm's help), and he helped put them over the top.  We all helped win.
Rahm did a hell of a lot.  A lot of people did.  The media loves the hero story, and we shouldn't blame Rahm for the media ignoring all the other players that made this a success.  We should demand that Rahm give us our due.  And we should push recognition for all the people who worked hard.  But the behind the scenes people don't get the love.  The people at the forefront do.  
We'll get our due.  We can't be ignored forever.

I can't believe I just defended Rahm.  But the sooner we let this drop, the better.  Congress is reconvening.  Bad things are going to be tried.  We need to be vigilant.


by JJCPA on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 08:50:58 PM EST

Speaking of Duckworth... (none / 0)

It seems Mr. Rahmsfeld is a "love'em & leave'em" kinda guy. I'm hearing that he's left Tammy high & dry with a mountain of debt that HE ran up!

So if you can, please help a girl out. Especially since she got stiffed by Rahmbone.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 02:03:17 AM EST
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Re: In all seriousness... (3.00 / 3)

Here's why I think it is important to challenge any narrative that Rahm did a great job: Anything that improves his standing in the party or national media enhances his powerbase in my backyard, and helps to hide the negative things he did the past cycle.

Rahm deserves credit for his efforts. But this credit should be based in context. He was chair of the DCCC at a time when Democrats were more dedicated than ever to take back the House. Independents were more than fed up with Republican control of Congress. There was a very real anti-GOP, anti-incumbent feel in the electorate of all political persuasions.

Rahm should have raised money hand over fist in this environment. He should have achieved success not realized by the Democratic party in over a decade. He deserves credit to be sure.

But his credit must be tempered by the fact that his overall record might have been disastrous had he stuck to his original targets. It might has not achieved a change in power had he stuck to his "Iraq is taboo to talk about" pro-war bent.

Had he not dropped incredible sums of money in DEMOCRATIC primaries to push his hand picked candidates there might have been more resources and more local popular candidates who had the right anti-war, anti-Bush message from the start. He soured the base in more places than just IL-06, and for that he deserves the credit in part for the losses his actions are partially responsible for.

Rahm needs to be called out for what he did, both good and bad. The good needs to be reinforced, the bad hung around his neck like and albatross so he does not ever repeat it.

This is especially important to me as he is in my back yard. Any candidate that runs for IL-06 will be subject to his support/interference in the big Democratic donor network in Chicago. Even not in a position of leadership at the D3C, he still will have the ability to cripple a popular netroots or non-machine candidate who chooses to run against Roskam.

My feeling is that anyone who considers an examination of what Rahm did do - both positve AND negative - as "attacking" him or being disloyal to the party is either flacking for him or missing the importance of post-election evaluation that will open the grassroots to being treated as a doormat again, and local parties as something to be pushed out of the way.

Is my perception colored by my experience in IL-06 primary? You bet. But that doesn't make it any less valid.


Witty comment goes here...
by michael in chicago on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:09:18 PM EST

We Should Look At How Many Close Races He Lost (3.00 / 1)

Of course, there are always close races lost.  But this time around, there were enormous sums dropped in a small number of races, with modest sums in a larger number of races, when Rahm belated realized what was happening in the country.

We won NH-1 and CA-11 despite Rahm, not because of him.  What about the ones we lost?


by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:11:34 PM EST
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Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

Thanks Michael, for putting into words what I have been trying, but unable, to articulate.

I don't begrudge Rahm the credit he is due...And he IS due a fair amount of credit. But he's also due a fair amount of blame. I just want to make sure that we prevent him and his outsized ego from screwing up the 2008 election cycle.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 02:11:51 AM EST
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Re: In all seriousness... (3.00 / 2)

Indeed, flipping 5% of the electorate creates wave, realignment elections.

I have read where this was a 53-47 election, which is a landslide.  It is more of a landslide than 1994 (because of the protection of gerrymandering).

I also read that the military voted more for the Democratic Party than in any election since 1966!  That, in a nutshell, is a "change" election.  And Rahm's goddam squemishness and cautiousness on Iraq is NOT what got those voters.

I agree.  We all deserve credit.  I even gave late money to Rahm's DCCC because I wanted to win.  However, I am sick of the insiders motherfucking us and Dean and, in essence, belittling the people all across the nation - 50 million of them - who are responsible for this win.

The two saving graces now are 1)  the best Speaker of the House in fifty years or more, and 2) Rahm Emanuel is no longer DCCC Chair.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:11:57 PM EST

No Longer DCCC Chair (none / 0)

2) Rahm Emanuel is no longer DCCC Chair.

Indeed, he is not. In fact, it seems that he has been pigeon-holed into a mostly ceremonial leadership role, just as he was in the Clinton Whitehouse after his DEMOTION for bad behavior.

Hmmmm....I see a pattern here.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 02:17:00 AM EST
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Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

JJCPA has it. Rahm did a hell of a lot, and let's move on.  

The character traits we all think are necessary for winning these things-- competitiveness, aggressiveness, swiftly answering attacks, taking it to the enemy-- are incompatible with being publicity-shy.

And, could I just say, as a newbie here, we are all a lot more in love with narcisisstic publicity than we should be, too. Jealousy over someone else's is hardly productive.

The hard work starts now, managing a congressional agenda, and in 08 taking more legislatures and retaking the White House.


by jouster on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:19:28 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (1.00 / 0)

We're still doing this? Why Chris why? I thought this had been settled...there is enough credit to go around.

I just don't get the need for endless Rahm bashing. Did he do things wrong? Duh. Who among us didn't/hasn't? But he did a lot of things right too.  

The Tribune piece is a fluf piece from his hometown paper (have you ever seen their coverage of Obama?). It is not a punch in the nose to the netroots.


by Nate1212 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:22:42 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (3.00 / 1)

I loved your Rahm post. I wondered if you like me, had a visitor from the DNC. Checking my site meter I found someone with the DNC addy at my site for over an hour. Hmmm. I guess it's a good thing. I enjoy your work immensely Chris, thanks for doing it.


by HopeSpringsATurtle on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:56:57 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

Professor George Lodge has written extensively on Americans and ideology v pragmatism. His thesis is that Amereicans like to think of themselves as pragmatists but are at base highly ideological.  Have a read.


You're nobody...until you've been banned at dkos because you had an original thought or spoke truth to power.
by NorCalJim on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 10:58:04 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (3.00 / 1)

Once again, Chris seems to be dead-on with this post.

It would be helpful to see a `seat by seat' tally of who was most responsible. Is it Rahm, Dean or Schumer?

Simplistic? Yes. But, it would help us understand how to evaluate these claims.

Rahm is really on a marketing blitz, even on Air America. Is it warranted?

(Yes it matters.)


by anothergreenbus on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:14:58 PM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

By any metric Schumer did an excellent job.

I mean no GOP pickups and 6 Dem pickups with 1 near miss in a deep-red state on a less-than-favorable map is a pretty damn good record.

Now the 5 point shift among voters to the democrats didn't hurt nor did the utter ineptness of Libby Dole.


by ces on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 07:32:08 PM EST
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Progressive Noise machine (none / 0)

Yes, Rahm and Carville may have the ear of the MSM, but I've watched the dialogue of the MSM also be changed by what's said on the progressive blogs, even if incrementally.

(And not so damn incrementally, if you think back to the Clinton years.)

And I can't imagine that talking to the Dem base isn't going to turn the MSM more and more to progessive talk, and our blog "experts."


by judybrowni on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:52:16 PM EST

Just six months ago (none / 0)

The number of people who don't take the netroots seriously or who don't see us as a valuable asset to the Democratic Party and progressive ecosystem is dwindling.

Just six months ago, the mainstream media said blogs were "irrelevant" and will keep doing that as long as we threaten the status quo/moderates.


--donna darko. I don't read or respond to comments. There's too much hate and misogyny here.
by nonwhiteperson on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 12:12:53 AM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

The reason the media is so in love with the notion of one or two people moving whole populations is because they are in love with thier myth of Rove.  They are still shell shocked and looking for a new Rove in the Democrats.
What they cannot understand is that they were hoodwinked by Rove who uses anyone who can enrich Rove or empower him.  They do not understand he was not and never was mythic.
They were used by a classic sociopath.
If they bothered to do any thinking or reading they would understand the type.  Rove posesses all the classic traits of a Sociopath.
by vwcat on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 01:09:13 AM EST

Do we need thanks? (3.00 / 1)

Hermanos, I'm not so sure we need thanks.  Chris and myDD did a fantastic job!  Thank you!  But let the Dem. leaders have their fantasies... we know who is in the underground, and how we are growing!  Let's show them our power.  Start with Carville and his betrayal "camafon" of the Ohio vote to his wife!  We can blog any one of them out of their jobs any time we want.  Still, we must be kind.  We must pull together.  Forces of evil are regrouping out there.  Forget about the thanks.  Let's just loosen up and get ready for the big race!  

Still, from me, to myDD -- !Gracias por el esfuerzo!  !Gracias por las palabras!  

Y un abrazo abrasisimo.  


by diego277 on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 02:17:14 AM EST

Re: Do we need thanks? (none / 0)

I, for one, don't care about thanks. I got a phone call from Tammy...That was MORE than enough for me.

What I DO care about is keeping Mr. Rahmsfeld and his delusions of grandeur in check, so he doesn't cost us even more wasted resources and lost opportunities in 2008.

That's it in a nutshell. Plain & simple. Rahm can have all the glory he wants, so long as he doesn't screw things up anymore than he already has.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 02:26:46 AM EST
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Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

I think the real problem here is that people are giving Rahm lipservice credit but not true credit. People make it seem like we won in spite of Rahm's efforts not because of it.

Critisize all you want but you can't say that Rahm didn't play a big part in the victory. We all did. Despite what most people seem to imply, either directly or indirectly, this cycle's victory wasn't netroots working in conjunction with Dean to defeat the establishment. This cycle was about the democratic party working together to defeat the true opponents, the Republican party.

And before everyone gets too big of a head lets not forget the huge role the GOP played in their fall from grace. I firmly believe that lady luck waits on those who are prepared but lady luck is still involved.


by world dictator on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 03:03:20 AM EST

Re: In all seriousness... (none / 0)

The thing is, that the netroots, Howard Dean and the party's left-wing all worked their asses off to help Democrats win this cycle, and our thanks for that is to be punched in the nose by Carville, Tauscher, Rahm, and a whole bunch of others.

Critisize all you want but you can't say that Rahm didn't play a big part in the victory. We all did. Despite what most people seem to imply, either directly or indirectly, this cycle's victory wasn't netroots working in conjunction with Dean to defeat the establishment. This cycle was about the democratic party working together to defeat the true opponents, the Republican party.

I suppose that's what bothers me - Rahm's famous "volunteers walking around Louisiana picking their nose" comment. This made plain that he didn't see the value of or agree with the 50-state strategy.

Yet ...

In the last three weeks of October, the DCCC mailed some hefty checks to candidates that weren't even on the radar at the time that comment was made. So, the DNC and MoveOn paved the way, and DCCC closed the deal? I can live with that. I don't give a damn who gets the 'pat on the back' for it, as long as the majority is Democratic.

(And James Carville is done. As far as I'm concerned, he's a Republican operative, and his statements should be treated as such.)

Yes, Democrats of all stripes pulled for victory, and we were victorious. But we weren't pulling together. Next time we won't be as fortunate.

I propose pushing the DNC, DSCC and DCCC to work together, starting now. There are a number of lessons to be gleaned from this cycle - let's learn from our mistakes, and capitalize on our investments.

This was the starting gun of the marathon, we still have a long way to go.

-GFO


by GuyFromOhio on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 10:41:04 AM EST


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