Rahm Won Everything

Chicago Tribune:
Now that the votes have been counted, the story of how Emanuel helped end an era of Republican rule can be told.

He did it, in large measure, by remaking the Democratic Party in his own image.
Rahm won the House of Representatives for Democrats, but it didn't stop there.

Rahm also won the four Republican-held House seats where the DCCC candidate lost the primary, but where the primary winner went on to take the seat anyway.

Rahm raised all the money for the DNC, and was actually every small donor who contributed to the DNC.

Rahm was every donor to Act Blue.

Carol Shea Porter is actually Rahm.

Rahm won us back six Governorships. Hell, he had groomed Deval Patrick from birth for the 2006 elections.

Rahm defeated the gay marriage ban in Arizona.

Rahm took back nine state legislative Houses.

Rahm not only runs MoveOn.org, but he is all 3.3 million people on their email list.

Rahm rigged voting machines so my write-in for Democratic state committee was a certain success.

Bill Clinton learned everything he knows from Rahm.

Rahm was every staffer on every House campaign in the country.

Rahm personally knocked on every door in the country.

Every progressive advocacy organization is actually Rahm, especially Emily's List.

Rahm runs SEIU and the AFL-CIO. He was Andy Stern's ghost writer.

Heath Shuler was the quarterback for the Washington Redskins, but if Rahm was the offensive coordinator, Shuler would be in the Hall of Fame.

Rahm defeated TABOR initiatives around the nation.

Rahm has a mind-meld with Nancy Pelosi, so if his body were to die and be sent to the Genesis planet in a hollowed-out photon torpedo, Spock's father could bring him back to life on Vulcan.

Rahm voted fifty million times on Election Day.

No one kept the base more excited than Rahm.

Every press release from every Democratic campaign was edited by Rahm.

When you put a needle on Rahm's nipple, it plays Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys.

Without Rahm's nutritional advice, I would be fifty pounds overweight.

Rahm is the leader of the anti-war movement. He always thought Iraq was a bad idea, and planned to run on it from the get-go.

Rahm won Tennessee for Harold Ford, IL-06 for Tammy Duckworth, and CA-50 for Francine Busby back in June.

Rahm founded YouTube.

Rahm can move in and out of the body of every Democrat in the country at will, like agents in the Matrix, so that their actions can be properly controlled at all times.

Brittany Spears is getting a divorce so she can marry Rahm.

Rahm masterminded the D-Day invasion.

Rahm is every new Democratic precinct captain in the country.

Rahm wrote every progressive blog post this cycle.

Rahm single-handed won these elections.

When the world ends, it will be because Rahm blinked.



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Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 2)

Glad to see that Rahm founded YouTube.  Maybe he can spend that $1.6 billion sales price on Tammy Duckworth's next race.


by global yokel on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:57:50 AM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

Didn't he invent the internets, too?

This article made me puke! I had to take extra blood pressure medicine just to get through it!

After the BONEHEADED stunt he pulled in IL-06, he deserves a new nickname. Rahmbo? Nah...I hereby dub him RAHMFELD. They have sooo much in common!


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:42:54 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 2)

This is important; would you cross post this at DailyKos?


by lobo charlie on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:58:25 AM EST

They certainly are afraid of Dean (3.00 / 4)

It looks like big business is very afraid of Dean and don't trust him.
by realtime on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:01:11 PM EST

Re: They certainly are afraid of Dean (3.00 / 1)

Bingo!  Chris Matthews tried to ask Lisa Caputo if Dean wasn't responsible for the gains in the state legislatures.  She said "NO, it's all Raaaahm...he's my buddy!"

And surprisingly Norm Ornstein of AEI, even jumped on Raaaahms lap saying "he was one of the big winners in this election".

Raaaaaaaaaahms tunnel visioned Delay style tactics have cost every state good candidates. And they undermine Deans gains.

Here in AZ the DSCC nixed an African American and a Native American for more white male business types. Choose new DCCC, and DSCC leaders before  2008 or we'll end up with a  Pussy for Prez.

How about taking a poll on this??


Dedicated to a Clean and Lean Dean Powered Machine!
by hazmaq on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:52:19 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

Bill Brasky's got nothing on Rahm Emanuel.


by allpaintedcold on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:04:51 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

Mr. RAHMFELD is KKKarl Rove, Don Rumsfeld and Bob Kjellander all rolled into one...And ALL of the above belong behind prison bars.

(Mr. Rahmfeld...I'm luvin' it!)


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:50:16 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (2.00 / 3)

God bless Chris Bowers.  Chris is the most precious natural resource in the United States.

My dream marriage is Chris and Jane Hamsher.  If they ever got together, the entire world would explode.

Chris Bowers for Emir of the Universe.


by Ethelred on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:05:15 PM EST

Uprated for non trolling (none / 0)

Don't think this was a slam on Bowers.  Commenters history doesn't look particularly trollish to me.


by scientician on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:49:28 PM EST
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Re: Uprated for non trolling (none / 0)

Of course is wasn't a troll comment.  It was appreciation for Chris and Jane being such fighters.  I do love that about both of them.  


Follow the money
by dkmich on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 05:40:21 AM EST
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hey! (3.00 / 1)

if anyone marries jane hamsher, it'll be me!

assuming mrs. skippy approves, of course.

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"blogtopia - yes, i coined that phrase!"
by skippy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 07:53:38 PM EST
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Rahm is bigger than even Chuck Norris! (3.00 / 7)

Rahm Emanuel is ten feet tall, weighs two-tons, breathes fire, and could eat a hammer and take a shotgun blast standing.

The Great Wall of China was originally created to keep Rahm Emanuel out. It failed miserably.

Most people have 23 pairs of chromosomes. Rahm Emanuel has 72... and they're all poisonous.

When Chuck Norris sends in his taxes, he sends blank forms and includes only a picture of himself, crouched and ready to attack. Rahm Emanuel has not had to pay taxes, ever.

# The quickest way to a man's heart is with Chuck Norris' fist.

Rahm Emanuel invented Kentucky Fried Chicken's famous secret recipe, with eleven herbs and spices. But nobody ever mentions the twelfth ingredient: Fear.

Rahm Emanuel can win a game of Connect Four in only three moves.

There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Rahm Emanuel allows to live.

Rahm Emanuel once ate three 72 oz. steaks in one hour. He spent the first 45 minutes having sex with his waitress.

Rahm Emanuel is the only man to ever defeat a brick wall in a game of tennis.

The opening scene of the movie "Saving Private Ryan" is loosely based on games of dodgeball Rahm Emanuel played in second grade.

Rahm Emanuel once shot down a German fighter plane with his finger, by yelling, "Bang!"

This of course was adapted from here.


by maddogg on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:06:20 PM EST

Speaking of fingers... (3.00 / 1)

It takes a REAL GENIUS to nearly kill themselves by cutting their finger...At ARBY'S no less!

And this man is in control of our fate? GOD HELP US!


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:54:26 PM EST
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Re: Speaking of fingers... (none / 0)

haha.  Now I remember reading that.  Who the fuck cuts a finger off at Arby's?

Okay, Tester slices his off on a farm with real cattle, but Rahm cuts his one finger off slicing pre-fab rubber "beef."

Wow.


The only balls the Clintons ever show are against their fellow Democrats, especially progressives.
by jgarcia on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 04:14:43 PM EST
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Re: Speaking of fingers... (none / 0)

And to top that off, his pediatrician father prolly had a drawer full of antibiotics somewhere in the house that he could have taken...If he were not as bullheaded as the OTHER North Shore Dummy (Rumsfeld).


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:35:17 PM EST
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Re: Rahm is bigger than even Chuck Norris! (3.00 / 1)

Air needs Rahm to live.


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by X Stryker on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:06:28 PM EST
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Re: Rahm is bigger than even Chuck Norris! (none / 0)

emannuel rahm was the biggest baby ever born to the world! he was too big to fit inside the house, so his father built him a cradle to put in the water. as baby emannuel slept in the water cradle, his father followed alongside it in a boat so he could keep an eye on him. when baby emannuel began to snore, his father thought the noise was coming from an approaching thunderstorm!

rahm's birth was strange, as are the births of many mythic heroes, as it took seventeen storks to carry the infant (ordinarily, one stork could carry several babies and drop them off at their parents' home). emannuel and blue dug the grand canyon by dragging his axe behind him, and created mount hood by piling rocks on top of their campfire to put it out.

when emannuel rahm grew up, he decided to become a political operative, because he could fell an entire election with one swing of his axe. the other political operatives were glad for his help, since he made their work so much easier. they did have to feed him an awful lot, though. emannuel rahm loved to eat, especially pancakes. one day, a woman came into the dscc and asked the cook, "why are those logs over there piled up to the ceiling?"

"those aren't logs," the cook replied. "those are sausages for emannuel rahm."

one day, during a heavy snowstorm, emannuel rahm was out walking and bumped into a mountain. when he looked down, he saw two blue ears sticking out of the snow. he yanked on the ears and pulled up a baby senator. he decided to keep the senator and took it home with him. the next day, the snow had melted and emannuel rahm saw that the baby senator had eaten three entire fields of hay! this was going to be one big senator, for sure. emannuel rahm called the senator "chuck schumer" and the two of them became fast friends.

well, chuck got so big that when he and emannuel rahm walked around minnesota, they formed ten thousand lakes with their footprints. minnesota has been known ever since as the 'land of ten thousand lakes.'

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"blogtopia - yes, i coined that phrase!"
by skippy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 08:04:59 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 3)

Rahm Emanuel's tears cure cancer...too bad he's never cried!


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by Adam Conner on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:06:24 PM EST

Chuck Norris is afraid of Rahm Emanuel! (3.00 / 2)

Chuck just doesn't know it yet!

http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/


by TimO on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:07:38 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 2)

Great post.


by thinkforyourself on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:13:03 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

Does this mean Rahm invented the internet too? Or does Gore get to keep that distinction?


by dwbh on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:16:17 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

    * "Rahm Emanuel is the father of every kid in this town!"
    * "His poop is considered currency in Argentina."
    * "I once saw him scissor-kick Angela Lansbury."
    * "Did I ever tell you about the time Emanuel took me out to go get a drink with him? We go off looking for a bar and we can't find one. Finally Emanuel takes me to a vacant lot and says, 'Here we are.' We sat there for a year and a half -- until sure enough, someone constructs a bar around us. Well, the day they opened we ordered a shot, drank it, and then burned the place to the ground. Emanuel yelled over the roar of the flames, 'Always leave things the way you found 'em!'"
    * "He once punched a hole in a cow just to see who was coming up the road."
    * "He hated Mexicans! And he was half-Mexican! ...And he hated irony!"
    * "The story of Johnny Appleseed is based on Emanuel... except for the part about planting apple trees... and not raping men."
    * "He did all the makeup on the Planet of the Apes movies."
    * "He drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls."
    * "He orchestrated the merger between UNICEF and Smith & Wesson."
    * "Did I ever tell you about the time Emanuel went hunting? Emanuel decides he's going to hunt down all four of the Banana Splits. He stalks and kills every one of them with a machete. They all begged for their lives...except Fleegle."
    * "I remember one time, Emanuel took his family to SeaWorld...They were watching Shamu the whale and Emanuel got splashed. So Emanuel yells, 'I'm Rahm Emanuel and no one gets me wet!' So he climbs into the tank, grabs Shamu and throws the whale into the audience, splashes him and yells, 'Now how do you like it?' And then damn if Emanuel didn't step in there and finish the show."
    * "We once had a bachelor party for Emanuel. He ate the entire cake before we could tell him there was a stripper in it."
    * "Emanuel's family crest is a picture of a barracuda eating Neil Armstrong."
    * "Emanuel named the group Sha Na Na. They did not want to be called that."
    * "If you drop a phonograph needle on Emanuel's nipple, it plays the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds."
    * "Did I ever tell you about the time he taught his son how to drive? He did it by entering him in the Indy 500. The kid wrecked and died. Emanuel said it would've happened sometime."
    * "He breastfeeds John Madden!"
    * "He killed Wolfman Jack with a trident."
    * "He slept with all of our wives, punched us in the face, and we loved him for it."
    * "He sleeps eight hours a night! Well, he was pretty normal when it came to that."

by Neogaidaros on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:19:24 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

Well, we know Rahm didn't "invent the internet." So there's that.


by Hesiod Theogeny on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:19:47 PM EST

Pointless. (2.00 / 1)

This disappoints me, since I usually respect Bowers quite a bit. Who gives a flying f**k if the Chicago Trib gives Rahm credit? I know the issue is bigger than that, but why all the incessant bitching about who gets credit?

That stuff is childish...our people have a nation to govern, and we need to help them do it, as well as to elect more of our people. 2008 is the prize, and my eyes are straight ahead.  


by mihan on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:20:12 PM EST

Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

To a certain extent, I agree. I should say that I do think it's important to give credit where credit is due. But really, the Chicago Tribune is in Chicago, Rahm Emanuel represents a part of Chicago -- what would you expect? This isn't that big of a deal.


by cgeiger on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:29:12 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

To the extent that the Chicago Tribune is a right-wing rag, it is in their interest to overcredit Rahm. Whose strategy would they rather face, that of Dean or of Rahm?

It's like crossing over in the 1992 Republican primary to vote for Pat Buchanan because you want to dilute support for GHW Bush.

Had the Chicago Sun Times made such a claim, that would be something to be more worried about. Ergo, this is a joke.


by OH Mark on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:33:18 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

I was thinking the same thing.  This actually makes the paper seem provincial.  I mean, you expect it of little hometown papers.


by prince myshkin on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:22:40 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

The 'little hometown paper' is TMS, Tribune Media Syndicate that owns waaaay more than the Trib - there's tv stations, LA Times, WGN, the Chicago Cubs, the Hartford Courant and much more.

Do ya see now why it's a bigger picture and more going on than hometown paper mentioning hometown boy doing well, esp when it wasn't all Rahm, all the time, not by a long shot.  It's about big big biz and corporatism which is what killed the Dems the last time around and is killing the Reeps now.
 


by rodean on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:48:17 PM EST
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The LA Times reprinted the Tribune article (none / 0)

   They are cutting back on costly stuff like reporters, so are running more stories from their sister paper.
   PS: I was rolling on the floor when I saw the line about Carol Shea Porter being Rahm. So too is Jerry McNerney...
by Zack from the SFV on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 09:22:53 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (3.00 / 6)

if you don't mind, could you give us a schedule so that we know when it's ok to have fun with the blog we write on for 10 hours a day 7 days a week?  thanks.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:29:58 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

Matt,

Its not about having fun. I support what you guys do as much as anyone, and you damn well know that you're not looking a schedule. You guys are the bloggers here, its your site, but I don't see why a sharp rebuke from you is necessary at ANY time when someone disagrees with one of yo.

If you could, let us know when its not okay to take seriously things that are written regarding serious topics. 'Oh, this time, we're just having fun, so no disagreeable comments, please.'


by mihan on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:35:41 PM EST
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Re: Rahm's a Democrat right? (3.00 / 0)

I don't understand all the sarcastic comments about Rahm Emmanuel.

The last time I checked he was a Democrat. The last time I check he headed the DCCC that produced the largest Democratic House victory in 30 years.

I don't understand all the hidden animosity.

Matt, you're kidding around? If this article was praising Howard Dean, I think you're going to see Alleluia & Praise the Lord from the same people who are being sarcastic.

Until a certain segment of our party realizes that the Left won't Fly without moderates &  moderates realize that we will not soar with the Left.

Having Fun? PLEASE !

P.S. Just like Joe Lieberman was just declared Today by NY Times & Wall Street Journal as the MOST POWERFUL MAN in the Senate. Was that funny too? I wonder why.


by labanman on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:43:53 PM EST
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Re: Rahm's a Democrat right? (3.00 / 1)

Being a Democrat doesn't automatically mean that what you do is right.  And I don't think the animosity has ever been hidden.

Yes, he was heading the DCCC for this election, but it does not automatically hold that he is RESPONSIBLE for that.  You're probably wearing a shirt right now, and if you flap your arms, you won't be able to fly.  Just because both facts are coexisting does not mean that the one impacts the other necessarily.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:50:00 PM EST
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Re: Rahm's a Democrat right? (3.00 / 0)

That's because Dean actually implemented and fought for (not against!) the 50 State Strategy.

So yeah - Emmanuel is an ass for taking credit FRAUDULENTLY.

Dean was right, Rahm was wrong - exept now, Rahm was somehow right and Dean just went along for the ride?  Or better yet - they did it IN SPITE OF Dean?

Yeah... I wonder where the animosity is coming from... where could it be?


McCain sucks!
by teknofyl on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:50:55 PM EST
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Rahm was the major force behind many wins (1.00 / 1)

Face it, his recruited candidates: Schuler, Jennings (who won), Giffords, Mitchell, Ellsworth, Arcuri, etc. etc. mainly won their races.

Also, the 50-state strategy was FAR from the only field operation in town. The DSCC and DCCC actually spent more money on field than the DNC.

Dean himself has said repeatedly that the 50-state strategy is long-term and is still only in its infancy.


by OfficeOfLife on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 04:06:38 PM EST
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pretty funny (3.00 / 1)

f you don't mind, could you give us a schedule so that we know when it's ok to have fun with the blog we write on for 10 hours a day 7 days a week?

Doesn't Kos tell you?


by Alice Marshall on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:51:33 PM EST
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Re: pretty funny (none / 0)

lol
jealous much?
by mermzilla on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:33:56 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

Hey Matt, I was laughing too.  


by prince myshkin on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:25:31 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (3.00 / 2)

Making sure credit goes to the right people is an essential part of politics.  Right?


by RickD on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:32:18 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (3.00 / 1)

The big issue is accountability and that is an essential part of politics.

With Rahm very late to come around to Iraq and an expanded playing field, plus holding grudges and wasting money on his vanity race -- it is important to discuss not so much whether he deserves credit but why it took him so long to come around.

That is what the Tribune should be writing about.


Bob Brigham Blog
by Bob Brigham on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:09:53 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (3.00 / 1)

If we expect anyone to listen to us in the future, it's probably a good idea to not let people who disgree with everything we stand for get the credit for what we accomplish.  Also, I'm sure that you can get a full refund of your subscription price if you find that the content is no longer meeting your standards here.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:44:29 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

So is that your idea of what this blog should be? Everyone fall in line and sing the same song, or get out? Do you think Bowers, Stoller (maybe he does: see above comments) and Jerome want to be preaching to a drone army that isn't in any way diverse in their opinions?


by mihan on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:28:31 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

Work on your reading comprehension.

Does "disagree with everything we stand for" sound like "Everyone fall in line and sing the same song"?  No?  Not even close?  Well, then, it looks like you have a nice straw man argument there.


by pseudo999 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 04:20:53 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

Yeah, I'll do that, thanks. Maybe if you had read a little further, you'd have seen the part where Lucas suggested I leave the site. That is what I was referring to, genious.


by mihan on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 04:36:43 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (3.00 / 3)

2008 IS the prize. And I don't want Rahmsfeld fucking it up the way he did IL-06.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:59:32 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (3.00 / 2)

With Rahm becoming the new K Street "boy", why else do you think the right wing wants to adopt him and give him kudos beyond his worth or his just deserts? It's all about money and power and Rahm wants them both, so it is important to stick a pin or two into those who expect undeserved power. Dr. Dean is the one who set this country on the path to healing with his 50 state strategy. This post is great in deflating Rahm's oversized balloon.


by Marple on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:35:53 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

Agreed.  

The GOP in the House got beat at least 29-0.  This is like winning the Super Bowl in a shutout, but then whining about missing an extra point.

I can see why people could be upset with Rahm, but he's no longer the DCCC chair.  He should have sent money to NC-8 and he didn't.  However, he did have some ads run in Kansas, which knocked off Ryun.  Hindsight is always 20/20. Enjoy the victory


by Southern Blue Dog on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:49:16 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

You're not a Rahm for Prez guy ..no.. right?


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by hazmaq on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:57:19 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

Not so much, no. I just don't value things like the left-center-right debate so much as I do results. And as far as I can tell, people around here are upset with Rahm primarily due to the Cegelis primary in IL-06, and I'm just not keen on continually fighting that battle. Since we took the house, and since Rahm is no longer the DCCC chair, there doesn't seem much benefit to the intra-party squabbling over who should get credit.


by mihan on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 06:10:24 PM EST
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Re: Pointless. (none / 0)

Until it happens to YOUR district and YOUR progressive candidate.

Just because he will not be head of the DCCC doesn't mean he will not be in a position to pull strings.


by pascal1947 on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 12:35:22 AM EST
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Rahm turned me into a nute (3.00 / 2)

But I got better...


by Nazgul35 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:20:25 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (1.00 / 2)

First off, it pretty clearly said "how Rahm helped end" Republican dominance. And he is largely (no, not 100%) responsible for our victory in the House.

Second, it's a Chicago paper, and Rahm is a hometown boy. Of course they're going to print things that shine the light positively on him.

Third, when did you become such a whiny little bitch?


by amiches on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:22:14 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

The salient point is that the Trib is the hometown paper writing about a local boy.   There are lots of things to be annoyed about; this isn't one of them.


by InigoMontoya on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:26:46 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Exactly. Please don't tell me that we're going to waste our time with persecution and marginalization complexes when politicians get the credit for political victories.


by amiches on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:28:21 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 2)

Whiny little bitch?  donchta just love anonymity....

Have a little respect for youselves, friends.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:32:49 PM EST
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Funny (none / 0)

"If you don't mind, could you give us a schedule so that we know when it's ok to have fun with the [comments] we write?"

"Whiney little bitch" is funny.


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:37:48 PM EST
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Funny (none / 0)

"If you don't mind, could you give us a schedule so that we know when it's ok to have fun with the [comments] we write?"

"Whiney little bitch" is funny.


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:37:55 PM EST
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Apparently... (3.00 / 1)

If you reply twice, it's fucking hysterical.


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:38:28 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (1.00 / 1)

A spade is a spade, dude, and if you whine about what looks like a tiny rhetorical slight in a newspaper you just might get called a whiny bitch. Don't get me wrong, I like Bowers, I just think this is pointless and helps drain us of momentum.


by amiches on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:09:51 PM EST
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whiney bitch (none / 0)

isn't funny.

Whiney 'little' bitch is funny.

I would have been offended if you had simply called Bowers a "whiney bitch".


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:35:09 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

Well, as long as we stick to the name-calling that has a point and builds momentum.  So thanks for keeping us on track.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:52:14 PM EST
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Jeez... (none / 0)

Don't be such a stodgy little asshole.

(Like that?)


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 03:10:44 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Its unbelievable! A Chicago paper has all praises for a Democrat DCCC head in Emmanuel. Then, certain segments of the Left Wing of our party ridicules the fellow Democrat.

when will someone post today's MSM. Joe Lieberman has just been declared by NY Time, Wall Street Journal as the MOST POWERFUL MAN in the Senate.

Now, is that funny too???


by labanman on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:48:09 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Agreed Inigo.  Plus, Rahm is an egomaniac so he no doubt trumpeted himself in the article.

Regardless of whether or not he thinks he rules the world, Rahm was an important part of our victory last week along with Dean, Schumer, the Netroots, the candidates themselves, the volunteers, etc.  It was a team effort.


by John Mills on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:32:48 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 3)

Look the thing is, for the past week we've been hearing from every news outlet how this was a victory for and by every single part of the ideological specturm, EXCEPT progressives. Look further at the Trib story. They go on to say that Rahm helped win the election because he recruited conservatives that are anti-choice and anti-gun control.

It's annoying as shit. Because Brad Ellsworth won in a Democratic District and Heath Shuler won in a marginal Democratic district, somehow we didn't really elect Democrats and the new house is really just a bunch of conservatives. Much more conservative than when Democrats ran things in the 70s and 80s with the likes of Phil Gramm and Dick Shelby. It's annoying because for the elites to fit the decision of the people into something that is palatable to them, they HAVE to make the election something it isn't. They will pick their heroes and villains in the discourse to try to mold the results to their liking. Rahm, moderates, and wishy-washy centrists are the heroes. Progressives (or liberals, which apparently are people who ONLY care about abortion, gay rights, and gun control), and Rumsfeld are villains. And Jon Tester and Jim Webb are heroes and won because they are new conservative Democrats. Even though the elites blasted Tester for being too liberal in the primary and even though Jim Webb talks more about the working class than anyone else save Bernie Sanders.

That's where the frustration comes from.

We defeated one enemy in one battle. But this is one battle. The next battle is tearing down the elite power structures and entrenched interests that work to frame the public discourse in a manner that perpetuates their power and rule.

Maybe you see it as petty whining, but humor is one way to wage the battle.


by adamterando on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:47:32 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

But his recruiting conservative candidates DID help win the election. Those guys won seats that contributed to a Dem majority.

You're telling me that with net neutrality nowhere near the 2007 agenda, with the daily death toll in Baghdad in the hundreds, with a leadership fight between Murtha and Hoyer, and with the cost of healthcare rising daily the netroots is going to focus on calling out imagined slights in newspapers?


by amiches on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:07:39 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 2)

You bet.  Because the entire netroots is this post.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:53:09 PM EST
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NO, IT DIDN'T! (3.00 / 1)

But his recruiting conservative candidates DID help win the election.

In the 3 races where Rahm spent the most money, HE LOST IN ALL THREE!

In the three races where he stuck his nose into the Primary and defeated the grass-roots candidate, HE LOST THE GENERAL ELECTION IN ALL THREE!

In the five races where he stuck his nose into the Primary and got it bit off by the grass-roots candidate, ALL FIVE GRASS-ROOTS CANDIDATES WON!

Mr. Rahmsfeld is a LOSER!


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:12:23 PM EST
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Re: NO, IT DIDN'T! (2.00 / 2)

Um don't know about other candidates but Tammy Duckworth was for gun control and abortion rights and against the war in Iraq.

Rahm kept Dick Durbin's promise to Duckworth. As it was the Repubs spent about $10 million to defeat her. That was a lot more than Rahm spent on her campaign. There wasn't one other fightin Dem - including Webb - who got as much media coverage as Tammy usually as the lede in a piece about all fightin Dems.

Emanual's TV ad campaign against Roskam was TOO liberal. He attacked him on book banning and gun control in schools, not exactly huge issues of the day. If he'd gone after him as the poster boy of corruption he is it never would have roused Roskam's fundy base or damaged Tammy's credibility and she probably would have won easily.  


by markg8 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 04:36:37 PM EST
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Re: NO, IT DIDN'T! (3.00 / 2)

Tamyy didn't win because she was branded a "Chicago Machine Democrat"...Thanks to Mr. Rahmsfeld. Even though the Moderate Republicans detested Roskam, They never even considered voting for Tammy because she was "Rahm's hand-picked candidate".

In their mind, the only thing worse than a fundy Republican is a Chicago Democrat.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:28:11 PM EST
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Re: NO, IT DIDN'T! (3.00 / 1)

this is exactly what happened.  why doesn't the media ever report it?

and he wasted all our money helping Duckworth at the expense of at least FIVE other seats that we WOULD have definitely won if the DCCC had ponied up even a few hundred grand.


The only balls the Clintons ever show are against their fellow Democrats, especially progressives.
by jgarcia on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 06:07:08 PM EST
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Re: NO, IT DIDN'T! (1.00 / 1)

Bullshit. She didn't need Republicans of any stripe to win. She needed indies and Dems who were turned off by the dumb ad campaign Emanual ran for her starring Dr. Suess and the Republican robocalls that turned them off to democracy period.

You Cegelis supporters can delude yourself it was all because she was from a mile outside the district
but you would in fact be just deluding yourselves.

And I'll say it once again, Duckworth forced the Repubs to spend millions more than they would have had she not been in the race. That money and all the pro political talent Repubs had to send Roskam did more to help other Dem candidates than the $3 million the DCCC spent on her. Get over yourselves and Cegelis. Thanks to guys like you and your sourgrapes her political career in Illinois is as dead as Nixon.


by markg8 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:09:32 PM EST
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Re: NO, IT DIDN'T! (none / 0)

"her political career in Illinois is as dead as Nixon"

OMG!  I am inconsolable!


The only balls the Clintons ever show are against their fellow Democrats, especially progressives.
by jgarcia on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:27:44 PM EST
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Re: NO, IT DIDN'T! (none / 0)

Get over yourselves and Cegelis. Thanks to guys like you and your sourgrapes her political career in Illinois is as dead as Nixon.

First off, stuff your sour grapes. I busted my ass for Tammy, hoping she could pull it off. But Mr. Rahmsfeld proved to be the Kiss of Death in DuPage.

Secondly, I disagree that her political career in IL is dead. It's only dead if Mr. Rahmsfeld loves her & leaves her. Granted, I don't think she can win in DuPage County now, but I could definitely see her successfully taking on Mark Kirk in IL-10. And I'd be right by her side the whole time!

I would be proud to have either lady (Cegelis or Duckworth) as my congressional representative. Too bad I'm stuck with Biggert.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 01:17:38 AM EST
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Re: NO, IT DIDN'T! (1.00 / 1)

It's as dead as Nixon's if she thinks she can run against national Democrats like Durbin, Obama and Emnauel again. She sent an email to supporters in the summer of 2005 after her unsuccessful trip to DC to get their support saying they were "secretly" trying to sabotage her race in 2006. There was nothing secret about it and the whole "Cindy deserved the nomination" because she ran in 2004 meme is worthy of Republicans. We're Democrats, we believe in democracy. If she wins the nomination in the primary then more power to her. If not then everybody else ought to shut up and get behind the candidate who won or find another race to get involved in.

I live in the 13th too. You didn't see Bill Reedy who was annointed by Howard Dean or his supporters bitching about Joe Shannon winning the primary.

BTW Biggert is about 67 years old. She won't take much pushing to retire if confronted by a viable candidate next time. Shannon who is anti choice and anti embryonic stem cell wasn't a viable candidate even though he raised $200,000 by  primary day. I spoke with him on the 4th of July and it was obvious to me he didn't think he could win. Maybe he was just getting name recognition waiting for the day Biggert retires. We can do better.

   


by markg8 on Tue Nov 14, 2006 at 01:10:20 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 3)

I agree, it did HELP win the election. And so did Jerry McNerney bucking Rahm and taking out Pombo in California. So did Carol Shea-Porter bucking Rahmbo and taking out Bradley in New York. So did John Hall bucking Rahmbo and taking out Sue Hall in NY.

But those victories aren't mentioned in the media narrative because it does not fit the narrative they want to force on the electorate.

"...the netroots is going to focus on calling out imagined slights in newspapers?"

It's part of a movement. This is one battle in the movment. It's not just a slight. It's not about the Trib giving "the netroots" credit. It's about destroying the elite structures that perpetuate the god-awful state of affairs in the world. You can make a pithy statement and look at Chris's post as part of some grand strategy to call out imagined slights in newspapers, but you know that's not what I'm getting at.

Realize that the media is a monstrous power structure that wields enormous influence in our society. If we want to create a progressive society that strives for a better life for all people, then we have to reign in the power of the media to shape the debate so that it fits their desired and warped interpretation of reality.

Haven't you noticed that the MSM and the GOP has been billing the Democratic gains as gains for conservatives? Now why the hell would they do that when that completely contradicts everything they were telling us about these very same candidates in either/or the primary or the general election?

There are moderate and conservative Dems in the new class, but there are also VERY strong progressives that beat the bejessus out of moderate or conservative rpublicans. The media will not recognize this because they do not like this. So it is our job to call them out when they fail to tell it like it is. Time to reign in their power.


by adamterando on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:30:31 PM EST
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Well, um, of course the GOP says this is a victory for conservatives. Of course they go on the news and say that. That's their job.

I think a lot of the conventional wisdom espoused by the media is often wrong, but I haven't noticed a serious push that says "this is a victory for conservatism".

I also don't think Tuesday was necessarily a victory for progressives, either. I think it can be parlayed into that if we stay focused and advocate the right policy moves, but if you seriously think the American public voted for progressive liberalism on Tuesday you're nuts. This is our chance to show that it's a workable ideology, and retarded slapfights over who deserves "credit" for what was mostly a GOP imposion do nothing to further that cause.


by amiches on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:37:49 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 3)

Well your arguments are wrong and it seems you haven't paid much attention to who actually won on Tuesday. So whatever. Go back and read some of Sherrod Brown's, Jon Tester's, and Jim Webb's speeches before you argue that people were voting for Washington Consensus politicians in the squishy middle.

I think Rahm deserves credit. But frankly I don't care who gets credit. I care that the media is perpetuating a discourse that just happens to benefit those elite media.

And as for the GOP claiming it was a victory for conservatives. After 1994, did the Democrats somehow say, and the media back them up, that the midterms were a victory for liberals?


by adamterando on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 03:53:05 PM EST
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You just perpetuate the power of the media elites, the Gang of 500 or whatever you want to call it when you give their views so much credence.

Once Pelosi's 100 hour plan goes into effect it's gonna make this silly meme look...well... silly.


by markg8 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 04:44:33 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Not the 'largely'..


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by hazmaq on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 05:58:31 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 2)

Rahm voted fifty million times on Election Day.

Got 'im!!  That'll keep him busy with the Feds for awhile.... ;-)

Book him, Danno...


by palamedes on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:29:24 PM EST

Hey! (3.00 / 2)

That's my line.

Sincerely,
Danno


by Danno11 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:09:08 PM EST
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Re: Hey! (none / 0)

Oh, um, sorry....

But I can still be Steve McGarrett, right?  ;-)


by palamedes on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:50:19 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything--except the one he wanted (3.00 / 3)

Curiously enough, there is one race Rahn lost--or withdrew from because he knew he would lose--the race for majority whip.

The House leadership choices, Pelosi on down,  including Committee chairs, gives some hints about which  direction the Democratic house majority will be going.

Rahm is losing this battle badly.  The Chicago Tribune article is probably a puff piece reward for some "insider information" he gave them on the elections.  Not that he won't win some skirmishes down the line, and probably cause trouble, too, but right now he is losing.

I wonder if all of this trumpeting how mainstream and center the new Democratic house will be doesn't cause some problems for the Republicans, who are going to need to brand it as a bunch of wild-eyed radicals.  It might have some inoculating effect.  It makes tRepublicans feel better to say that their philosophy has not been rejected, only co-opted by Democrats, but I think they would have been better off saying that the Dems are leftist loons.


by bobbles on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:34:06 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 3)

Rahm can obviously multi-task like a crazed muthaf#*k'r.

I'm impressed.


by smugbug on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:46:23 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Rahm Emmanuel has just blown my mind.


by Karatist Preacher on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:51:02 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 4)

Rahm brushed my teeth this morning!

Seriously, Rahm needs to wake the hell up. This election was not about him. I would not have worked so hard if I had to take marching orders from a guy like that.

But a former Governor of Vermont, that is another story.


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by stormbear on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 12:58:19 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Ah Storm , hello, this was an article by the Chicago Tribune. This did not come from Rahm.

LOL! He's not giving you any marching orders. He even gave way to Cyburn for Majority Whip.


by labanman on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:10:25 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

Don't forget how entrenched the Chicago Machine is, and how much a part the Trib plays in that -- even when they pretend otherwise.  And The Trib is a Republican newspaper -- when was the last time they endorsed a Democrat for President? Ever? -- so it plays into all the annoying Republican tropes about how conservative the new crop of Dems are.  So yes, a little humor about it is completely appropriate.  


by Maven on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:39:06 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 3)

This is just a note on my general frustration from statements he and the DLC have made on THEIR winning strategy, not exclusive to the Tribune piece.

Now the person I have a REAL bone to pick with is Carvelle. Lordy, there goes my blood pressure... again.


Town Called Dobson - Daily Political Cartoon: Not all is red in rural America!
by stormbear on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:02:51 PM EST
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it's fine with me that (3.00 / 2)

he remade the Democratic Party.  I'm just pissed that he single-handedly beat my Tigers in the World Series.


by Jeffrey Feldman on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:07:24 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (the facts) (3.00 / 5)

To bring cold hard facts to the argument:

I've been analyzing the spending of the DCCC and their net effectiveness.  I got all of the 2006 contributions from committees (and individuals) and looked at what races the DCCC gave money to and what the net result was.  

The short version is that the "swing state" strategy that Rahm was espousing (and following) initially, would probably have let the GOP keep the house.  The fact that other groups (like ActBlue, etc.) were pushing the 50 state strategy brought a number of new races into play that allowed the DCCC to jump in during the last month or two.  But if noone had been pushing those races, it's hard to imagine that they would have been positioned for a win in the final months.

Here's a summary of what i mean:

- Before 9/1: Of the races that were won (or who are still in doubt), the DCCC spent more than 10K on only 11 of them.  (Well, 14 if you count the contributions to the primary where they backed a challenger to the winner ;-) )  If you lower the threshold to 5K, they only had 17 winners.  Compare that to a total of 27 races where they spent 5K or more.  (I mean, 'cmon, 5K is nothing...)

- Between 9/1 and 10/1: Of the races that were won (or who are still in doubt), the DCCC spent more than 5K on only 15 of them.  This is well into where they were getting polling data and seeing which races were tight.  During that period they spent $7.3M.  They spent >5K on only 21 races!  They spent huge cash on a lot of races that were lost (like KY4, OH15, PA6, VA2, IL6).  

- After 10/1:  they got a little better, they spent >20K on 18 of the winning races.  During that period they spent $14M (and still blew huge amounts in loosing efforts in PA6, KY4, OH1, OH15, VA2, CT4, OR5, CO4, etc., etc.)

So in the last month, the DCCC did jump into a few races that they hadn't supported before, but they still ignore a number of them that were key to the margin of victory.  And more to the point, the only reason that the races were close was because others (like ActBlue, blogosphere, etc. had kept the campagns financed, staffed, and motivated.)

Now i realize that i'm just giving a summary and there are ways to quibble with details (like is it fair to ding the DCCC for not having spent much money on TX-22 which seemed like a sure pickup...)  But there is a lot of interesting stuff in looking at the big picture like this - the numbers show an strategic investment pattern by the DCCC which was very out of sync with the eventual margin of victory.  Rahm should be counting his lucky stars and thanking the various progressive organizations for keeping so many candidates close.  And in particular he owes Dean a big apology for getting upset about Deans spending practices.  

I plan to post more details of the cruched numbers (and the datasets behind them).  But all of this begs the question of "why?."  Why were progressive, underfinanced candidates so successful (relatively) while the "centrist" candidates underperformed.  I have some theories, but i'm still putting the numbers together on that...


by DanD on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:09:00 PM EST

why? (3.00 / 1)

Micro-managing by Rahm.


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by Bob Brigham on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:14:38 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (the facts) (none / 0)

Thank You!

Please keep THE TRUTH coming forward.


"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly American criminal class except Congress." ~Mark Twain
by dabuddy on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 02:30:11 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 6)

First of all, kudos on a very witty hit piece.

Rahm, like Carville and Lieberman, is a bloviator of Bill O'Reilly magnitude.

And yet some of you say "pointless" and how dare Chris show any dissension within Democratic ranks?

Wow! I guess it is true that there are deeply conservative right-wing moralistic prisses inside our ranks. Like Rev. Haggard, do you secretly go to another website after posting your prudish anti-humor screeds here......where you let lose with hilarious Dennis Miller bile?

It's called being human people, i.e.  having a sense of humor and pointing out the b.s. within one's own ranks.

Or maybe y'all haven't been watching Rahm on TV when he's directly asked whether
he now gives some credit to Dean and he mumbles
an indistinct but clearly dismissive..."mmmmph".

It is Rahm and Schumer and Carville who still want to get Dean fired. Who publicly criticized again and again. It is their old inner-circle
lobbyist ubercorporate cabal which refused to
support the will of the people (Lamont) and is in bed with Lieberman and K-Street.

But nooooooo, heaven forbid we have a bit of levity pointing out their arrogant narcissism
which is just as toxic to the health of a progressive Democratic party as FOX and Rove.


by makahadan on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:11:35 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Nice.


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by jallen on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:12:34 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

It's a pretty neat trick to respond to innuendo with more innuendo. Rahm doesn't have to say a thing about taking credit. Come to think about it, he HASN'T claimed sole credit for the Democratic victory, or said anything close to the bragging you and the rest of his critics claim he's done.

Try this. Give me ONE legitimate quote from Rep. Emanuel where he claims that he's the main force behind the victory. Not the WaPo senrtence where the authors lump Emanuel with 'other Democrats' who, they claim, supposedly spoke at a private meeting about stifling some liberal agenda somewhere in the House. In that article, the authors use their own context, their own words, and their own bias to make their ridiculous point about what Emanuel supposedly said at the meeting. Why is there no source provided for the alleged statements? Why aren't the authors able to provide a standard, proper quote?

Because there is no recorded quote of Emanuel taking sole credit for the Democratic victory. This is a lie, furthered by folks aiming to divide the party for their own ideological elevation. Rahm has NEVER claimed sole credit. If he did, you could stop using opinion pieces as gospel truth and use his own words (in legitimate quotes and sourced) as they would certainly appear SOMEWHERE.

The Chicago Trib article shows an aggressive party loyalist who hates himself some republicans. I thought we wanted this kind of energy in our party, giving the republicans hell on earth. Thatwas the focus of the article. You'd deny him the work he did, described in the article. You seem to want to deny Emanuel ANY credit at all. That's absurd and despicable, in my view.

This new piece from Chris is a desperate ploy to advance the idea of a progressive Democratic party; an idea I too relish, but, it's not at all the reality. I don't know how these folks who've been elected with middle-of-the-road appeals are going to be marginalized and still have our party produce on any of the promises made during the election. All of our elected Democrats will be challenged to pull together to advance these.

This post, and the smearing of Rep. Emanuel, is a pathetic attempt to divide our party. A foolish effort.


by fullwood on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:13:43 PM EST

Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 2)

I do know this much...

I watched CNN/MSNBC/FOX for pretty much 72 straight hours from election morning until 2 days afterwards.

I saw lots of interviews with lots of people -- including several by Rahm, Chuck, and Howard Dean.

I heard Howard Dean go out of his way to credit the work of the DSCC and DCCC -- and specifically credit their heads by name.

I did NOT hear either Rahm or Chuck mention Chairman Dean or the DNC.

It's certainly possible I missed it --

But quite frankly, every "we" in the netroots/Dean/DNC wing of the party let down our guard for even a minute --- we get snide comments on nose-pickers in Mississippi.  We get stories of James Caraville and the Clinton '3rd way' relics maneuvering to replace Dean with Harold Ford.

Sorry... Chris doesn't need my help defending his piece -- but I'm sure he'd agree that we'll disarm when they do.

There was only 1 Democrat on my ballot last week that I did NOT vote for -- and it was Rahm Emmanuel (I wrote in my alderman).  


by zonk on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:26:41 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (1.00 / 1)

You watch too much TV, especially that cable news garbage when you should have been working your ass off getting Dems elected.


by markg8 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 06:08:20 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

See the November 8 article in the Washington Post.


by Professor Foland on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:33:57 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Do you really believe it's legitimate to use this sentence to bash Rep. Emanuel:

"In private talks before the election, Emanuel and other top Democrats told their members they cannot allow the party's liberal wing to dominate the agenda next year."

That's the whole quote in WaPo, no follow up. Try this. Imagine this were a piece against someone you supported. Is this a legitimate representation of Emanuel's views? Or, is it slippery journalism, as I say it is?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2006/11/07/AR2006110701697. html


by fullwood on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:44:34 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

Did Rahm ask for a correction or clarification?


by Professor Foland on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 03:35:28 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (none / 0)

why not just submit a list to him of all the bullshit said about him on the internet and elsewhere and have him 'correct or clarify' all of it at once?

This is the game? Make it up and make him prove it's false? That's inspiring.


by fullwood on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 11:57:48 PM EST
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A Desperate Ploy! (3.00 / 1)

Pathetic!  Foolish!  A smear!  And shrill, did I mention shrill?

Chris, please, please, control the desperate shrillness.  Your desperate foolishness threatens to  divide our party!  Criticism of our leaders -- especially without footnotes -- will tear us apart right at this delicate moment!  So zip it, or YOU will get all the credit when the Republicans take over.

I want a strong Democrat party as much as anyone...

PS.  Please talk nicer to Christians.


by cerebrocrat on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:43:56 PM EST
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Re: A Desperate Ploy! (3.00 / 1)

by all means . . . Chris and others should cram their own words down our party leaders' throats at every opportunity. Facts are stupid things, anyway. It's much better to make it up as you go along .


by fullwood on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 01:50:45 PM EST
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Re: Rahm Won Everything (3.00 / 1)

It's a pretty neat trick to respond to innuendo with more innuendo. Rahm doesn't have to say a thing about taking credit. Come to think about it, he HASN'T claimed sole credit for the Democratic victory, or said anything close to the bragging you and the rest of his critics claim he's done.

He doesn't have to, and that's the point.  He's built up his personal infrastructure, including the Chicago machine but now being writ large within the Democratic party, so that he gets sycophantic articles like this written and he doesn't have to say it himself.  I've certainly never suggested that he wasn't brilliant or an exceptionally savvy politician, but you see that more when he's advancing his own career than whe