Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight

Ellen Tauscher lost an election tonight. Whether it was the 2006 elecitons for Democrats, or the 2008 Democratic primary California's 10th congressional district. It could end up being both. I sincerely hope it was her own, and two years from now.

Stabbed in the back, indeed. Rant in the extended entry.

For the past several years, the progressive movement had, supposedly, risen to power and influence in the Democratic ecosystem by fervently playing by the rules.
  • We didn't support third parties against Democrats we didn't like. We kept it in the party, and used the primary system the party had in place.
  • We didn't sit on our hands when the candidate we backed in primaries lost. We always supported the winner just as fervently as we supported our candidate.
  • We found thousands of new activists to serve as precinct captains at a time when the party infrastructure was dying.
  • We channeled hundreds of millions of dollars into Democratic campaigns, significantly closing the fundraising gap with Republicans.
  • We opposed Republicans at every turn, fought them tooth and nail on every issue, even when some sections of the Democratic Party did not want to fight. We were more partisan than most Democrats.
  • We built huge media operations on a shoestring budget, without any official support whatsoever.
We played by the rules. We followed their rules more than Democrats in Congress followed them. And now, here is our payment:
Representative Ellen O. Tauscher of California, a co-chairwoman of the 47-member New Democrat Coalition, said that 27 of the top 40 contested House seats were being pursued by Democrats who have pledged to become members of the group, which says its chief issues are national security and fiscal responsibility.

"I think there's tremendous agreement and awareness that getting the majority and running over the left cliff is what our Republican opponents would dearly love," Ms. Tauscher said, adding that this was something "we've got to fight."
We are not wanted by large sections of the Democratic leadership. There are many out there who want our money, but they don't want us. There are many out there who want our precinct-by-precinct activism to help GOTV, but they don't want us. There are many out there who want us to fire up the base, but they don't want us. There are many out there who want to use our media to help spread their message, but they don't want us. There are many out there who want us to support primary winners, but they don't want to do the same. There are many out there who want us to fight Republicans, while they say they want to work with both sides. There are many out there who wanted us to play by Democratic Party rules, but they they have no intention of playing by those rules themselves. To them, we are akin to going over the cliff.

They languished in the minority for a decade, and when the chance to take power finally came back--a chance that we gave them--There are many out there who decided they didn't need us anymore. We are why they have never been closer to Republicans in fundraising. We are why the base is fired up. We are why they finally decided to run on Iraq. We are why they have so many more volunteers than they have ever had before. We are why there are more Democrats running for more seats than at any time in the past. We are why there is progressive media now. We are why countless Republican scandals have had a shelf life of more than two days in the established media. Every major improvement in Democratic infrastructure that took place over the past two years found its birth, incubation, and primary means of support in the netroots.

What position would Democrats be in right now if our campaigns were $300,000,000 in debt and couldn't run a single ad the rest of the election? That's where they would be without our money. Where would they be if suddenly 75% of their volunteers disappeared, and most GOTV operations were utterly devoid of warm bodies? That's where they would be without us. Where would they be if 10,000 precinct captains disappeared a week before the election? That's where they would be without the silent revolution. Where would they be if the base wasn't fired up and ready to vote? That's where they would be without progressive media. Where would they be if they weren't running on Iraq, finally? They certainly wouldn't be this far ahead in the polls, and they wouldn't have done it without pressure from the base. Where would they be without a means to distribute their message directly to millions of progressives every day on every issue? That's where they would be without the progressive blogosphere. Where would they be if they didn't have more Democrats running for office this year than in any election in decades? That's where they would be without the fifty state strategy. We re-introduced all of these things to the Democratic Party in the last four years, and basically all we asked in return was for them to play by their own rules and be partisan on behalf of the entire party for a change. They couldn't even do that.

And I can't emphasize this enough--we did it all by playing by the rules. I know this, because I was there every step of the way. When Howard Dean lost, I worked even harder for John Kerry. Like everyone else in this movement, I ran for party office rather than just complaining on the sidelines. I consistently highlighted second and third tier races. I spent months pushing for as many candidates to run as possible, highlighting where we had caniddates, and wehre we needed more. I helped encourage millions of dollars in small donor donations, all to Democratic candidates. I have hit the streets and knocked on doors for well over a dozen Democratic candidates in the last two years. I helped build a website with tens of thousands of readers a day on absolutely no budget, no official support, and I did this sometimes when I couldn't even pay my rent. When I didn't like Democrats, I ran primary challenges against them, but I always, always supported whoever won. And hundreds of thousands of people just like me did the same thing. Last week alone we did everything we could to channel voters to negative info on Republican candidates, and send millions of dollars to competitive House campaigns. And, in return, we get a Democratic establishment that refuses to play by its own rules, and considers what we believe in akin to going off a cliff.

I am so unbelievably angry right now, and it takes a lot for me to fly off the handle like this. If we lose this election, it will be the fault of the Ellen Taushcers of the Democratic Party. Why should people keep giving, keep volunteering, keep infusing the party with new blood, keep building new media, keep supporting primary winners they don't like, if we are told point blank that we are not wanted? A lot of people will draw just that conclusion form what she said, and it will damage all of our other efforts. Thus, we will be that much closer to the nightmere scenario I laid out above.

Here is why I will continue to fgiht: because as long as Ellen Tauscher and her ilk are running the Democratic Party, the conservative movement will continue to rise. Ellen Tauscher can't beat the conservative movement. She and her friends showed us this time and time again from 1978-2004 just how utterly ineffective they are at doing anything except ushering in a new era of Republican dominance. As long as they are in leadership positions of the Democratic Party, the only avenue available to stop the conservative movement on the electoral front, this country that I love so dearly will continue on a long, downward spiral. Both defeating Republicans and wiping their Democratic enablers out of power is the only way to save my country.

Ellen Tauscher, just so you know, when you have a surprisingly strong and well funded primary challenger with tons of volunteers and lots of support in the progressive media come out of seemingly nowhere in 2008, just look over the cliff to see where that challenger is coming from. At the bottom, you will see me standing there, with hundreds and thousand of my friends and colleagues. We will be in the process of forming a human ladder for your challenger to use to climb up the cliff. When s/he reaches the top, don't be surprised if more than a few of us come along, and suddenly you find yourself outnumbered, even as you stand next to your twenty-seven new friends. And then we will see who gets run over the cliff next.

If the person thrown off the cliff ends up being you, Ellen Tauscher, believe me when I say once again that it will be done according to the rules. Stabbed in the back, indeed. For some Democrats, it is more like they want to stab us in the face, at high noon in the town square. For many, our biggest crime was joining their cause and following ttheir rules. See that you keep committing that crime. If nothing else, it certainly seems to piss them off. I like that part about it.

You lost at least one election tonight, Ellen Tauscher. I sure as hell hope that election wasn't in 2006.



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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 1)

Remember the lesson of Lieberman.  He lost the Dem primary.


by jasmine on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:07:08 AM EST

I posted this comment in Stoller's (3.00 / 2)

thread:


This election season is showing the results of the years of effort we have all put in.

We are seeing the beginnings of a huge change in the overall tone of the electorate, the portrayal of Republicans, their leadership, and their media mouthpieces.

I think that we will see significant Democratic gains in both houses of congress, and even more significant gains in governorships, state offices ( S.o.S and A.G. for example) and state legislatures.

I think the Democratic Party will emerge from the election with a 10-20 seat majority in the House and within 1 seat of a majority in the senate.

What we should do leading up to, and following this election is very simple:

Recruit more people to join Democratic Party organizations at the basic, grassroots, local branch level. Recruit them yourself, get them to join, and keep up the heat on both the GOP and on the Democratic Party upper echelons.

Our strategy - 50 states, challenge every seat and contest every race, capture the broad base, and look for victory in the "Long Tail" is the way to win, and we have shown that our strategy and tactics, netroots, grassroots, local, person-to-person politics WORKS. Election results over the last 15-20 years shows that the old model, top-down, corporate-friendly, machine-style political insider gamesmanship does NOT work. This election season is as exciting as it is specifically and directly because of the upsurge in direct action by you, and me, and our friends, families, and allies. Time to seal the deal, and make the Democratic Party OUR party, for good!

The gnashing of teeth, whining, and savage backstabbing we are now seeing from the party insiders and corporate-friendly types is nothing more than the wailing of a defeated and desperate group of sell-outs and fingers-to-the-wind opportunists. They are attempting to "condition the battlefield" for the fight for party control that is looming.

Don't buy their attempt at spin and hype, prepare for that fight now. Join your local Democratic Party organization RIGHT NOW.

Show up to meetings, get elected to vacant positions, bring bodies - your friends, your co-workers, you fellow unionists, your fellow activists, and get them behind the push to capture and own the infrastructure.

I think that a "Join Your Local Democratic Party Chapter" contest would be an interesting Blogosphere project to undertake...like starting today.

If we had 10 people from the netroots join our DAJ chapter, tomorrow, and 10 people join each DA chapter tomorrow, and we were all on the same basic page (Basic Competence FIRST, Core Values SECOND, and Ideological Outlook THIRD), we could essentially take over the entire Democrats Abroad infrastructure.

Get 10 folks to join each Democratic Party Local, get themselves elected Sec., Treas., Chair, Vice Chair, and etc.

It would not be that hard.


by RedDan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:10:01 AM EST

Re: I posted this comment in Stoller's (3.00 / 1)

We are already well underway on that project. That's one of the reasons they are so pissed off.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:16:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Well then, (none / 0)

can you help me get some candidates together for DPCA positions in Democrats Abroad?

And can you help us recruit for DA in the various overseas chapters?

And do you need more bodies in the states, and where?

And can we put together a directory of chapters, locations, meeting times, and etc?

I realize that this time is not a good time...but come November 8, it's going to be time to put together a serious push to topple some of these losers from their positions of power.


by RedDan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:27:18 AM EST
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Re: Well then, (none / 0)

We need a databse that tells us where all of the vancanies are, and when all of the meetings take place. Once we had that in Philly, we were able to take 80 committee seats in the grassroots.

Unfortuantely, we don't have a naitonal (or int his case, international) database like that to work from.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:29:24 AM EST
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One of the people I (none / 0)

do politics with is a database designer and expert...

Where should we start, and how can we get a hold of that kind of information?

Let's make one!


by RedDan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:35:26 AM EST
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Re: Well then, (none / 0)

Takes time and money.  Problem is, most people only have one or the other.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:20:04 PM EST
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Re: Well then, (none / 0)

You know I'm all for staying up all night punching in data.  Cause I'm cool like that.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 04:49:55 PM EST
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Re: I posted this comment in Stoller's (none / 0)

"Join Your Local Democratic Party Chapter"

Or, at least, on 11/8.

A replicable db model for states/counties to use for organizing party leadership elections could be really handy.  I don't know enough to say, but wonder if a spreadsheet might do just as well, and whether a discussion could illuminate for us what kind of data is necessary to gather.

Lots of it is obvious.  But, I'm sure there are insights to be shared that will improve the situation for everyone.


by by foot on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 01:08:05 PM EST
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don't be a baby (3.00 / 1)

The activism on this site is fantastic, and some of the insights about party building are great, but sometimes I just wish you guys would get with the program. For all the talk about the netroots differences not being about ideology, you seem to be getting all bent out of shape because of one pretty innocuous quote. If there is going to be a fight between moderates and liberals in the party lets at least wait until we get in the majority to have it.


by Ozymandias on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:13:39 AM EST

Get with the program? (3.00 / 5)

I am with the fucking program. I follow every damned rule. All I ask for in return is that the rules be followed by everyone.

I am with the program. Tauscher is the one who needs to get with the program.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:20:45 AM EST
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Re: Get with the program? (3.00 / 1)

The national party has misunderstood, or purposfully  ignored, the netroots contribution to this cycle. Just as they did in 04. And just as they are likely to do in 08. However, we are only 10 days from the election and it makes no sense to take our eye off the ball even for a second. You're right that Tauscher needs to get with the program, but "she started it" isn't a good enough excuse for participating in that fight.

After the election we will have to face the fact that many of the new members of congress elected in majority Bush districts are to the right of most of us. That shouldn't an insurmountable problem, but it will require some flexibility on our part. The netroots came to maturation while the party was completely out of power and in many ways gained strength by teaching party insiders how to operate in a new era of hyper - partisanship. We gave Democrats their backbone back. But now that we're going to have our hands on one of the levers of power we will have to remember the compromises associated with being in power.


by Ozymandias on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:09:25 AM EST
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Re: don't be a baby (none / 0)

Ozymandias huh?

             OZYMANDIAS

I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
- Shelley

Not all that crazy about what you write but love your irony.

Best,  Terry


by terryhallinan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 06:28:40 AM EST
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Re: don't be a baby (3.00 / 1)

If we learned anything from battleing the Right,The Traditional media, and the Democratic OLD Guard is never hesitate to Speak truth to power. Letting things go for the sake of comity is what they expect from everyone else. We often complain how Dems always roll over then when we don't we complain that we shouldn't be so mean or as you said "act like a baby".  Make your minds up folks! What kind of progressive do you want to be.


by eddieb on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 08:03:51 AM EST
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Re: don't be a baby (none / 0)

Perhaps it's Ellen Tauscher that needs to get with the program and not be a baby?


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:35:34 PM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Ellen Tauscher makes a dumb-ass insult on the progressive-left wing of the Democratic Party, and here you're talking about that remark costing us the midterms?

Look, I agree with you, I'm sick of Tauscher's kind of politics, but I think you're giving her too much credit to say that her quip is going to depress volunteer enthusiasm and Democratic turnout nationwide.  Let's try to stay a little focused here.


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by HellofaSandwich on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:13:51 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

"I think you're giving her too much credit to say that her quip is going to depress volunteer enthusiasm and Democratic turnout nationwide."

Actually, I like that argument. We get far worse here in Philly, and it onyl seems to rachet up our activism and opposition to the establishment.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:19:10 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

I agree with hellofasandwich.  The average voter doesn't have a fucking clue who Ellen Tauscher is and (myself included) couldn't care less about what she has to say.


by lorax on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 11:41:37 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Ellen's comment in isolation would probably not have ticked off anyone. But when you put it together with a lot of events going on in recent weeeks, it was probably the final straw for Chris and Matt.


by Pravin on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:32:48 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Thanks for the kind words, troll.


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by HellofaSandwich on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:27:07 PM EST
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I am Cenk Uyger type democrat (3.00 / 2)

So I am not exactly one of the liberals. Yet these so called moderates disgust me. People keep accusing the left of intolerance. What i find here by the Dem establishment types is an amazing thickheadedness to the long term future of the party. An arrogrance that is unseemly, not to mention inexplicable for a party that is not even in power yet.

remember how Dean was vilified by the Dem establishment? Now think of Dean's behavior after he lost the primary. He has not criticized a single democrat in personal terms. Meanwhile, Lieberman who backstabbed Kerry openly in FL and has lost his composure with several democrats is considered one of the good mature guys. We are constantly asked not to be viscious with Lieberman types while Rahm Emanuel is free to vilify Dean and marginalize the DNC head to the benefit of republicans. So who is being mature here? Barak OBama spread a falsehood that a sizable number of democrats in general tend oppose every war for the sake of oppposing a war despite the fact that most dems supported the afghan war. Are you telling me Obama couln't pander to the mainstream without cutting down the liberal wing of the party?

Before some of your comments imply we are just some angry bloggers, consider how some of these mature politicians have behaved.


by Pravin on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:15:00 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 1)

I thought Ellen Tauscher's comment was unnecessary and melodramatic. Then I read this. Good lord.

Would it really kill anyone to let one dumb comment go for 9 days? One quote in one newspaper isn't going to ruin the 2006 elections. Blowing it up into a Category 5 hurricane for a week and half certainly won't help.

Put this on ice and bring it back November 8th. PLEASE.


by OfficeOfLife on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:15:35 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

I have no intention of blowing it up for a week and a half. But I couldn't let it pass, lest more, similar comments follow.

Maybe I am wrong, but I actually think that laying the smack down right away could help precent anything else like this from getting out in the next nine days. Throw down one big "No" to comments like that, and maybe it will help disappear comemts like that.

I also felt it necessary to lay a claim to the Democratic Party myself, which I feel I did in this post. It needed to be said that other people who highly disagree with Tauscher hvae just as much ownership over the party as she does. Expect more of your reguarly scheduled programming in the monring.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:27:42 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

I've been writing letters to the editor (the columnist, the talking head, whomever) whenever I come across a mention of "the Dean scream." I'm always polite and aim to educate. A few times I've been published; more often, I've gotten hostile responses, like "It's the way history wrote it, true or not" and "You need to develop a sense of humor."

It's sort of my way of laying down the smack, I guess.

Anyway, I think it's working. I haven't seen any mention of it in two or three months now on my Google News alert or in my regular reading. You have to at least yell when you or yours get stepped on.

BTW, in my county there was a fierce battle for Pennsylvania State Democratic Committee slots, won by just a few votes on the basis of bullet ballots in a couple of precincts.


by joyful alternative on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 12:44:54 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

You may be surprised when I tell this but, Chris and the rest of us here can chew gum and discuss more than one issue at a time. LOL ;)


by eddieb on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 08:09:47 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

You have my support, Chris. Before people vote, they should understand what they're getting into. I had never even heard of this group before your post. Now I see that they are a DLC spinoff and were largely responsible for getting the shameful new bankruptcy bill passed, among other "victories". The NDC truly doesn't understand that the majority of voters are to the left of where the NDC is (once those voters understand the issues). Is there anyone today, other than the financial lobbyists, and their clients who benefitted from it, who thinks the bankruptcy bill wasn't a shameful piece of legislation? Here I was hoping this was one of the dreadful pieces of legislation we could change once the Dems retook the House. Foolish me.


by grayslady on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:29:57 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Ditto.

Putting your (understandable) emotional reaction aside, there is a key issue here about caucus membership that needs to be kept in the forefront.

Yes, there is a progressive/centrist intra-party battle looming. It's going to play out in the presidential primaries, in committee membership, in leadership battles, etc. One of our biggest challenges in the next 2 years is keeping the energy put into that battle from sapping the energy needed for the fights against the Republicans. The ground rules you lay out are an important part of that.

The netroots advocacy role continues on Nov 8. Between Nov 8 and Jan 20 (or whenever the new Congress convenes) we need to put pressure on the Freshman reps. Pledge or no pledge, let's see who will make the right caucusing decisions in the face of intense netroots pressure.


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by SLJ on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 06:26:34 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Wow, talk about blowing things out of proportion. My god.

All this talk about following rules, exactly what "rules" did Rep. Tauscher break exactly?

Just the other week you were speaking in a glowing and triumphalist manner about the Progressive wave about to sweep the party and about the successes of the House Progressive Caucus' in recruiting members. Now that Tauscher and the rest of the Centrist squad are sorting out their own idealogical comrades you act like some sacred trust has been broken.  


by Epitome22 on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:29:58 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 3)

My arguments were never couhced with the idea that following any other path would be a disaster. I only brought that up tonight, after Tauscher did.

I stand by my argument: the progressive movement brought the infrastructure to make this great opporunity possible. how about if, in return, we aren't referred to as "driving the party off a cliff."
by Chris Bowers on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:33:39 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 2)

Now that Tauscher and the rest of the Centrist squad are sorting out their own idealogical comrades you act like some sacred trust has been broken.  

Actually, it has.  The rules of the Democratic Party exist for a reason.  When Democratic leaders choose to break those rules for their own personal, that's reason enough to react angrily.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:35:08 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election (none / 0)

The people who are criticizing Chris are being clownish. We need to   stop this kind of behavior from happening. That will happen if we criticize these comments right now, and actually start talking about a primary challenger.

Senator Tom Torlakson represents part of her district, and he's one of the more liberal guys in the California Senate. (97% 3-year rating from CALPIRG). Term limits make it so members of the California legislature are much more willing to make runs for higher office. Of course, that's just from doing some random googling- I have no idea if he'd be the best guy or gal to take on Tauscher.


by liberalminded on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:37:10 AM EST

Jockeying for Position (3.00 / 1)

People have said, on the front page and in comments, that progressives need to be ready for the intra-party jousting over the agenda once the Dems take control. Against whom did you think you were going to be jousting?

And while I am truly glad that Chris is taking a role in the Philly and PA parties (since I live in Philly myself), the progressive camp is shoving elbows a bit too. Kos calls out Ford and says he won't be upset if he loses. Matt Stoller calls Democratic Senators moral lepers. You want their votes for Majority Leader and Speaker, but you don't want them.


by Dave Thomer on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:37:20 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 1)

One dumb comment. Lets not go nuts. Calm Down, Ellen Tausher has a .0005 name recongition.


by Democraticavenger on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:40:58 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 1)

Ummm...overreaction?  Uh---yeah.

There are differences within the Democratic party.  I think we all knew that.   I prefer a big tent to the mindless roboticism and litmus test litanies that the GOP prefer to use.  There is going to be a dialog/struggle within the democratic party on both fiscal and security issues.  Duh.

So Tauscher's laying down a marker of what she see's the direction of a particular faction going.  And so?  You want a different direction?  Lay your markers down.  Win some primaries.  Win some votes within the caucuses.  Reading Tauscher's statement as a gigantic "Fuck you" is, well, stupid.  It's certainly less vitriolic in tone than a lot of what's often directed towards towards the DLC, Blue Dogs, or whatever the current outrageous heresey of the moment is.

I mean it's nice that after 12 years of GOP control of Congress and six years of Bush that we've had eight years of Democratic control and have a strong enough position that we can engage in the old circular firing squad....  Oh.  Wait.   We haven't.  

Get a grip.   Everyone.


by InigoMontoya on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:41:24 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 2)

However, one thing I've learned from reading all of these profiles of Pelosi is that Tauscher is just the Deputy Boss of Team Hoyer. I think that we need to focus at least just as much on getting rid of Hoyer as we do on Tauscher.


by liberalminded on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:41:31 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Hoyer

This is his last term. His successor has already been chosen.


by dblhelix on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:48:44 AM EST
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Good call (none / 0)

That's exactly what this is about - Majority Leader. Tauscher is smacking the crazed nutroots who want noted leftist John Murtha as Majority Leader, not Hoyer. Try and win that one, ET. Not. Gonna. Happen.


"Nothing seems to embarrass the political class today." - Bill Moyers
by joejoejoe on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:01:01 AM EST
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Re: Good call (3.00 / 1)

"noted leftist John Murtha"?  Do you realize how funny that is?

Murtha has exactly one left position, and it's on the war, and he came to it late.  Earlier than everyone else that mattered, but too late to keep us out of the war, for instance.

Here, read this from the NYT.  I don't trust the NYT much, but it's still interesting.  Not only is he conservative, but he is one hell of a earmark dealer... our version of Duncan Hunter.


by texas dem on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:33:22 AM EST
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Re: Good call (3.00 / 1)

That being said, I presume I still support Murtha over Hoyer.

I don't trust Pelosi either, and I say that as a San Francisco voter.  Like Newsom, she was the conservative candidate in her race for Congress, defeating a very solid progressive guy who was Harvey Milk's successor on the Board of Supervisors.  Pelosi's been a machine Democrat all her life, back to when her daddy was mayor of Baltimore.

Still, if Pelosi and Murtha are the left-most option, then I'll sign on.


by texas dem on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 06:06:11 AM EST
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Re: Good call (3.00 / 1)

I think the "noted leftist" bit was satirical.  Hence the use of the term "nutroots", our fervent leftist ideology which had huge numbers of us wanting a very conservative democrat to be our Majority leader.

They try and pigeonhole us and yet we defy expectations.  

We prefer strong, partisan leaders over milksops who share our ideology is all.  We would rather a progressive Murtha Majority leader, but we'll take a conservative one who will kick ass.


by scientician on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:27:15 AM EST
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Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 1)

Tauscher's statement was a fuck you. Because not only did she go out of her way to criticize her party's base, she also said something that was a major deviation from what the leadership consensus is- something which is completely counterproductive.

She wasn't just saying fuck you to the grassroots, she and Hoyer are also trying to destabilize Nancy Pelosi if and when she becomes Speaker.


by liberalminded on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:46:08 AM EST

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Good grief.

Tauscher is a dumbass for making public statements like this so close to election day.

Chris, this post is way too melodramatic.

Anyway, what Tauscher's comment boils down to is that blue dogs Dems in the House and centrists in the senate know that the momentum is with their more openly liberal colleagues who have closer ties to base activists like yourself. They are afraid of what their liberal colleagues are going to do with their new-found power in the next congress. Why? Because be it an attempt to force a confrontation over Iraq, corruption investigations, or pushing a major spending initiative, it won't be their safe-district liberal colleagues who will have to deal with the electoral blowback.  

Obviously,the presumption that there will be blowback is faulty, and probably quite the opposite will happen. However, there is a lot of uncertainty about the agenda that Pelosi and the new committee chairmen are going to push. This statement from Tauscher is best read as a negotiating ploy to ensure that Pelosi -- who, by the way, is seen by caucus centrists as largely sympathizing with liberals and progressives -- gives them a seat at the agenda-setting table.


by blueflorida on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:46:12 AM EST

November 8 (none / 0)

I agree.  On November 8, we start looking for a challenger for Rep Tauscher.  Until that time, though, our focus needs to be on GOTV.


Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:58:22 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

How were the DLC/progressive battles of the '90s fought, before the days of blogs? Through The Nation/New Republic put-down articles?


by DCDavid on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 02:58:54 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 1)

Presidential primaries, House & Senate leadership contests, and yes, put-down articles in ideologically friendly magazines.


by blueflorida on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:03:58 AM EST
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one of the reasons I like local blogs (3.00 / 4)

is that they can provide background.

Here's a great article by Babaloo from Dec. 2005 on SayNotoPombo: "Why Are Tauscher and Pelosi Supporting Filson?"

Now, one of the things about the Tauscher quote is that it does speak to a reality.  The vulnerable Republicans in 2006 are in swing districts...and that's where Democrats will be winning whatever gains we make this fall.  Whether Tauscher has any right to lay claims to all these districts, she IS speaking to a political reality.  If we retake the House or the Senate it will be with a mix of moderate and liberal Dems with definite centrist representation.

Now, what Tauscher is doing is claiming these potential winners for herself.  She's counting chickens and positioning herself; she's playing politics. Of course, her claim is ironic given her history with the district closest to her, CA-11, where she and the DCCC supported Steve Filson over CA Democratic Party and grassroots/netroots endorsed primary-winner Jerry McNerney.

Now, I'm sure the last thing Jerry wants right now is a renewed battle with Tauscher.  Jerry WON that battle last summer without a doubt. Just last week Jerry saw the first $$ from the DCCC. I'm sure he's happy to have them on board regardless of the late arrival.

So, yes, there are very real tensions and ideological realities here.  Hell, that line from Tauscher about the cliff is galling...and plays right into GOP spin. In that regard, I think Red Dan's ideas are great and should be listened to. Getting involved in the party IS the best response to Tauscher. In fact, taking over Party infrastructure is part of why Jerry was the CA Democratic endorsed candidate.

But, friends, Taushcer is also merely counting chickens; she's offering up a distraction, and that's too bad. The battle right now is with Richard Pombo...and dozens of other Republicans that we ALL can agree deserve the boot.

And, you know what, for the next 8 days, that's my battle too.


k/o: politics and local blogs
by kid oakland on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:03:30 AM EST

How Stupid Can They Be? No Limit! (3.00 / 2)

The main reason the Democrats are in such a sorry state is folks like Ellen Tauscher and Joe Lieberman.  The one thing conservatives can't stand is plainspoken opposition, calling them on their BS.  Instead, the Tauscher types give them cover--or worse, run around saying, "Me too! Me too!"

In my recent diary, "What A Dem Landslide Could Mean", I showed that realigning presidential elections come as a result of two consecutive House wave elections.  We haven't seen that since 1930/1932.  The GOP--with help from folks like Tauscher--has been able to weaken the New Deal legacy, but not overturn it. It's just way too popular.  The best the GOP could do is win one wave election in 1994, and the Dems haven't even tried to win a wave election since then.  The only reason we're in one now is just like Chris says--because of Dean's reviled 50-state strategy and the influx of activism and support catalyzed by the netroots over the past four years.

Now, what Tauscher is calling for--with the same myopic self-defeating tunnel vision--is a perscription for for handing the House back to the GOP as soon as possible.  The reason is simple:  what we need to win, and to establish long-run dominance is to change the political context, the dominant political narrative, which is what realigning elections are all about.  This is what Jacksonian Democrats did in 1824.  It's what Lincoln Republicans did in 1860.  It's what McKinnley Republicans did in 1896.  And it's what FDR Democrats did in 1932.  Despite all the blather to the contrary, no one has done it since then.  But that doesn't mean the narrative hasn't gotten muddled.  It definitely has.  It just hasn't been replaced.  It would much easier to update and rearticulate that narrative than to make any other narrative dominant.

That's the big advantage that liberal Democrats have.  We have the most long-standing, deeply ingrained, most taken-for-granted common sense narrative on our side.   And the Ellen Tauscher types say we shouldn't say a word about it. Instead, we should say, "We'll be better Republicans than the GOP!"

Any wonder why they can't win jack shit without us?


by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:08:33 AM EST

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First time comment on a blog ever: What Chris says is a big deal. The netroots have been a major catalyst in making the 2006 elections as close as they are. I don't think his rant is going to stop any of us from "following the rules" this November, but it's a good reminder that there is still a ton of education needed to get the powers-that-be in the Democratic party to stop backing losing strategies. It's simply crazy how many elected Democrats continue to embrace non-ideas that ensure they never break through to the public consciousness.

The 2000 election narrative was all about how little it mattered to cast a vote for either party, since they were both so similar. No matter how things go on November 7, it's essential for the Democratic party to start staking out a new, recognizable position for the future. Unfortunately, troglodytes like Ellen Tauscher keep holding us back, and I think it's important to call it like it is. After all, It's not like MyDD readers will suddenly decide to skip voting based on a single post from Chris.


by segment on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:12:12 AM EST

progressive caucus bigger than new democrat caucus (3.00 / 1)

Just though I'd point out we're already winning the intra-party squabble.

40 members in the New Democrat caucus (repub-lite)
62 members in the Congressional Progressive Caucus

... and the minority leader is in the CPC to boot.

Tauscher who?


end the occupation of Iraq
by aip on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:29:30 AM EST

Re: progressive caucus bigger than new democrat ca (none / 0)

Erp, make that 47 members of ND (it was 40 last session).  If they do get 27, they might then be bigger than the CPC, and that is a big deal.


end the occupation of Iraq
by aip on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:33:53 AM EST
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Re: progressive caucus bigger than new democrat ca (none / 0)

pretty sure pelosi agreed to leave leave the progressive caucus before they made leader, but i could be wrong.


by Ozymandias on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:47:16 AM EST
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Re: progressive caucus bigger than new democrat ca (none / 0)

Yes yes, that's a formality though.

Don't forget who will hold chairmanships.  Conyers for example.  

How many of the incoming possible Dems would join CPC?  That should indicate where the balance will sit come January.


by scientician on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:30:56 AM EST
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Seriously, CALM DOWN, people.  No matter what we did or said this cycle, no matter the actual outcome of the elections, we knew there was going to be a left and right wing of the democratic party.  If the entire country swung drastically to the left and the socialist party was reborn anew tonight and the GOP fell off the face of the Earth, this would still be true.  If you group two or more people together, there will always be a left wing and a right wing.  Now we know a little better who our "local" enemy will be for the next cycle.  The real question is who our Republican enemy will be.  Assuming that we do well in the elections, the other guys are going to change on many levels.  I would rather know who the new power centers on that side of the aisle are than knowing about Ellen's power grab.  She is now a particularly important person.  Let's not make her more important than she is.  We have many, MANY targets to focus on for the next two weeks.  You won't forget Tauscher's miscalculation just like you didn't forget Lieberman's chuckle during the VP debates in the 200 cycle.  Revenge is a dish best served cold.  And in this case, is is a dish we want to serve to a very small group of people.  Let's not damage the larger picture in the next news cycle.


by SkinnerSan on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:34:32 AM EST

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The only reason why any of these douches still have the balls to open their mouth is b/c Lamont is trailing.  The best possible result for the Lieberman-Hoyer wing is a Lieberman win coupled with a 5 seat pick up.  And then when Stevens dies or retires and Bush nominates Yoo, they will blame the blogs for having botched our chance at the majority in the senate.  

They have to hope that this will turn bad for us, so that they can punish us and stop us from taking them out race by race.  Their political future rests completely on the hope that we can be discouraged and turned off by setbacks along the way to taking control of the party.  But their grasping for that out betrays their ignorance of all that has happened.  They really believe that such a thing is possible after Gannon, Soc Sec, DSM, Plame, Katrina, White Phosphorus, and the horror that has resulted in Iraq.  Could any of us bear to live in a world without the work that the blogs have done in this cycle?  They are purely political creatures. They are the people in the government who are most out of touch and useless in a moment that defines an era and a generation.  

Also, to those who say this is ideological, I am perplexed by you.  This isn't a post about Nelson or Conrad or even Ford--i.e. someone who has an ostensibly good reason to present "moderate."  This a machine pol from CA doing the bidding of another machine pol from MD.  We tried it their way for the past 16 years. It lost us both houses and then the White House within the span of a single decade.  Every poll comes back again and again "Q: what is your main problem with the Dems?  A: I don't know what they stand for.  Too weak.  Flip-flopper.  Takes a poll to decide what to wear in the morning."  She's talking governance.  Governance that seeks to jump when the gang of 500, the "wise men" of D.C. say "this high."  You know, all those people who have been wrong about everything that's happened for a while now, up to and including the greatest strategic blunder in the history of both the military and foreign policy of this country.  We're still having this argument on blogs?  Really?  I thought the whole point of this thing was that we were at least all convinced that we had to change that component of the party's M.O.  In fact, I'm pretty sure hamsters with brain damage can see that the Dems need to fix that problem.


by msbatxnyc on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:35:27 AM EST

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Chris, you've got some nerve. To take offense at the misgivings of an elected official, to rally the populace around you, and to (one day) hold that elected official accountable. Our Fore Fathers must be... so happy their radical experiment is working out ;)


by DCDavid on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:40:05 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (3.00 / 1)

What Ellen Tauscher is desribing is no less than coup.  One NDC member took over the DCCC (Rahm Emanuel) and immediately set to "work" trying to blow the Democratic Party apart and stick it to the leadership (Dean, Pelosi, Jack Murtha, even Kerry).

Emanuel, despite all the boasting, has been mediocre at best being out fund raised by Tom Davis and out generalled as well.

What Tauscher, incredibly, has done is to open a can of worms and turn bad decisions into a raw power grab.  Bad enough that limited Democratic money was flushed down the toilet to support primary challengers who were consistently opposed to key elements of what most Democrats support.  Bad enough that even within ten days of the election, funds seem to get diverted to over-funded, highly unpopular incumbents.  Sending money to Melissa Bean instead of Gary Trauner seemed merely stupid and short sighted.  Tauscher lays it all out.  It's not short-sighted at all simply using ALL party funding only to support her faction.  Screw the fact that we are blowing a once every 30 year chance here.

No, the records of a lot of NDC members in terms of party loyalty stink to high heaven.  Ed Case as the de facto republican Senate candidate in Hawaii.  Harold Ford backing brother Jake instead of Steve Cohen who won the Democratic primary for Harold's House seat in Tennesse.  Jane Harman vehemently backing Bush and his shaft-omatic Iraq and intelligence policies re: House Democrats.  

Twenty seven out of forty.  This isn't Gene Taylor time (not a member).  He's to the right of the entire NDC and quietly gets re-elected as a Democratic every time on his own nickel.  And doesn't mouth off.

Republicans have faced this repeatedly over the past 42 years and in each case the activist won.  In 1964 it was not only nominating Goldwater for President but more importantly taking over most of the local party apparatus.  In 1976-1980, the wingers dethroned the last of the traditional Republicans from power as an aftermath to Gerald Ford edging Reagan.  In the later 80s and 90s into Bush II, it was the Christian right (originally the Ralph reed led Christian Coalition) aligning with (and laundering money with) the Grover Norquist/ Jack Abramoff wing.

They many have been "wrong" but the activists won every round until maybe this year.

This is emphatically not a verbal blunder on the part of Tauscher.  She's pulling a page from the W play book.  Mention something once during the tail end of the election season and then turn the election into a mandate for your crazed views (privatizing social security, funding only right wing candidates, running primaries funded by general election money to drive off any progressives, sancelling the change that voters thought they were getting, making Democrats as corrupt and corporate as Republicans).

Look, this isn't the Clintonistas or the DLC, it's a hundred or a thousand times worse.  Would Vilsack really do this in Iowa, running Mickey or Minnie Mouse and sending all the cash to say Leonard (the snooze) Boswell.  No.  Woud Evan bayh rip the heart and soul out of those three Indiana House seats merely as an exercise to gain control for his 2008 run?  No.  maybe we, as a group, need to go easier on the DLC and much harder on the NDCs.


by David Kowalski on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 03:51:14 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Calm down!  Not that Chris B., Matt, or anyone else in the liberal or progressive movements don't have reason to be angry.  We're all stressed about this election.  We want to win, and things look good for us.  But we don't really know for sure till it's all over.  Everything's so fragile, including our tempers.  So when Tauscher goes off and makes an impolitic comment like she did, it's understandable that many of us get angry.  I found it insulting and Lieberman-like too.  But let's keep cool and do what we know how to do on some level.

Rapid response for one thing.  What's the message of our response?  First, ALL democrats care about national security and fiscal responsibility.  Secondly, the only cliff anyone is in danger of running over is the cliff that the Bush administration and the Republicant Congress has been taking this country over already; the only direction Democrats will take this country in is away from the brink.  Thirdly, Republicants won't love Democrats for successfully leading America away from the brink as Tauscher proclaims; they'll HATE it and that's why they'll yell.  (What Republicants do love are Democratic turncoats like Tauscher.  But we already knew that.)

Bless little Ellen's heart for letting us have the opportunity to get these messages out.  Replying to the NY Times interview is a good place to start, I think.

What else can we do?  Figure out who those 27 candidates are so that we're prepared to do some serious netroots action.  If these people are in the top 40 races, then many of them have relied on some serious blogosphere support.  Hmm.  Maybe they feel they need to be members of this caucus for whatever reason.  But maybe they also don't want caucus leadership that offends the netsroots.  Or maybe we can suggest that these new members should start considering all of this as they make their decisions about caucus memberships and leadership choices.

And last and most deliciously, let's make sure that we turn out the Hoyer people from leadership in the party caucus.  Don't just wait till 2008 to take revenge.  Make sure that there are more immediate consequences for Ms Tauscher come December or January.  I look forward to the netroots campaign for party caucus leadership after Nov. 7!

Thanks for bringing this to the attention of all of the rest of us, Chris.


by Phonatic on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 04:29:10 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

Yes, who are these people? Inquiring minds want to know. I have nothing against "moderates" who represent their "moderate" constituency. They don't need me, they don't need my little contributions. That's a good thing.

This cycle I don't give to Dems just because they have a good chance of picking up a Senate or House seat. I was happy to do that last election, but thankfully I don't need to hold my nose while I write the checks this time. There are enough close races where I can pick and choose the ones that I want to be a part of.

Lieberman, the symbol for everything that is wrong with my party, lost his primary.  Now I finish what I started and move on to 2008. Great post, Chris. This needed to be said before the election. Notice that the attack dogs have toned down their rhetoric. The times they are a' changing.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:51:53 PM EST
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Two sentences on the same MyDD page (none / 0)

From an earlier thread: "...demonstrative of how Republicans are rapidly losing their status as a national party."

Then in this thread: "If we lose this election, it will be the fault of the Ellen Taushcers of the Democratic Party."

Gad. Fragility seems to be contagious. The other side is in widespread freefall but a few hours later we're going to lose to them based on, what, two paragraphs?

I reject nominating liberals in districts/states/races in which only moderates currently can win. If that sticks me with the Ellen Taushcers, I'll give her a cyber hug.

IMO, Chris Bowers is overly influenced by his district and surroundings. I think he mentioned that it was 11% Republican, and he laughed at a Lynn Swann bumper sticker. Plus there's the natural blogging reality of reading likeminded sites and wrongly concluding it's a wave and representative of the nation. Pig farmers thinking the world revolves around pig farming.

I'm here in Nevada with thousands of "This is Gibbons Country" signs, a guy with assault claims handing over him yet leading in the polls solely because he is a Republican. And our team nominated the much more liberal candidate, Dina Titus, in a state that prefers moderates. There have been many articles recently, and also posts on local progressive blogs, that the race would be long over if we nominated Jim Gibson instead of Titus. No kidding. I prefer Titus' politics but I know the terrain from talking to actual people every day. They ain't on blogs and they ain't progressive and they ain't changin'. That's where you get the 20% liberal self-description in the national exit polls, and often less than that in frequent sampling like PEW's.

Let's see where that is this year. For all the "we're the heros, dammit" threads here and elsewhere, and the talk of the difference the netroots has made, will it show up in the philosophical self-identification? I doubt it. We are indeed winning because the other side found remarkable ways to lose. The party ID has been trending our way, but no threat of higher pecentage of liberals, and no dip in the percentage of conservatives. That's the epitome of flimsy advantage based on current form. We can be wonderfully ignorant and ignore that, or we can acknowledge what a Democrat said on a CNN program this weekend, that the math is unbelievably tilted against Democrats, needing to sweep the liberal vote and win 2/3 of the moderates, merely to break even.

We need to win 2/3 of them yet we thrill to denounce them. Now that's special.

Posters here want to pretend that math doesn't exist. It's similar to the Lamont/Lieberman race, where the primary was all effort and belief. Remarkable accomplishment. But now the general election is sheer numbers, And they add up the other way.


by Gary Kilbride on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 05:38:18 AM EST

Re: Two sentences on the same MyDD page (none / 0)

No one doubts that moderate Dems are needed in moderate districts, Gary. But when they speak out, pre-election, about factionalizing the party, like the Blue Dog Dems in the Reagan era, they aren't serving a positive purpose. They are making enemies needlessly.

Moderate Dems can't keep on assuming progressives will be there for them because progressives have no other place to go.

Been there, done that, and the Contract On America was a hella price to pay.


by KevinHayden on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 07:51:16 PM EST
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I know for a fact that jerry brady or larry grant would not be were there at today without the help of hard core idaho liberals like me.and if they want to find out if thats true all they have to do is say so,or take us for granted.Iam tired of wasting my time on people who just dont get it.and i have a theary that if we stop helping and let the chips fall were they may,eventually america will have no choice but to come are way.look at the mis they created in 8 short years.
by idahojim on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 07:53:33 AM EST

Look at her actions, not her rhetoric (none / 0)

Ellen Tauscher is my member of congress in the suburban east bay area. She defeated a very conservative incumbent - Bill Baker - by running a moderate campaign, much like the current race of McNerney against Pombo.

She has been campaigning for and with McNerney, even though he wasn't her choice in the primary. She's a democrat, she's a player - she's definitely not a Lieberman.

She is somewhat more conservative than me, but most of her votes have been the democratic position.

The majority party is always a coalition.


by mo on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:05:23 AM EST

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Chris is right to call bullshit on Tauscher upfront. The tone was right too: hard, fast and emotional. The DLCers need to learn to be careful about pulling the chair out from under us and pushing us away from the table.
Tauscher probably didn't think anyone would come back at her out of concern for unity in the face of a national election. Best to step up and push back right away. They should learn to be careful, very careful, about how they treat us.
by johnalive on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:08:40 AM EST

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We are not wanted by large sections of the Democratic leadership. There are many out there who want our money, but they don't want us.

Poor dear.  Maybe now you will understand why so many gay people feel the same about the national Democratic party.  Reference the thread Not a good thing for Dems from only last Friday, and my comment here responding to your earlier comment.  (NB: you didn't bother responding to the question I raised in my comment there.)


by raj on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:09:41 AM EST

By all means join the local party (none / 0)

I am the first vice chair of the Boulder Democratic Party.  There is no one in the county that offered to take the job and if someone did and they were marginally competent but enthused, I would step aside for them.  I think I do my job well as do all of the key officials but we are all volunteers who work hard.  There are about a dozen major initiatives we could undertake that would improve things if we had people willing to step up and do them.  

I joke that what we need is more paving contracts so that people would seek out our jobs.  

Since IMHO, we are the best organized county in a turning Blue state (Colorado), there are plenty of opportunities for "advancement".  

To quote, a great Democratic President, Josiah Bartlett, "Decisions are made by those who show up."


by msobel on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:29:45 AM EST

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Chris, you have just eclipsed Glenn Greenwald as my favourite blogger.  

I am sick of hearing moderates repeat republican spin.  We'll "take the party over the left cliff" - if it were up to the Tauschers of the party, there would be no New Deal and no Great Society.  There would be no Moon Mission either.

Can't these people disagree with us without playing into fears of "what would the republicans love for us to do?" - who gives a fuck what the republicans think would be good for them for us to do?  They're wrong about so many things, I bet they're wrong about that too.  

Someone like Kos might remark here that this is a long struggle.  Taking back the party from the Vichy Democrats wasn't going to be easy.


by scientician on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 09:42:31 AM EST

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IMHO, there is nothing "moderate" about Tauscher's comments.  I consider them rightwing and her too.


by Phonatic on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 12:17:59 PM EST
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question and comment: (none / 0)

Question: What rule did this moron break?  I mean, I understand it's sorta idiotic to go to the NYT to bash your strongest supporters a few days before the election.

But this isn't like Lieberman deciding "I laugh at your primary process" or Florida in 2000.  Is it?  Am I missing something?  Is there some internal house rule saying that you don't disclose who is joining your caucus before the election or something like that?

Comment: We knew this was coming.  The frontpagers here have pointed out that a lot of seats we are slated to pick up are R leaning.  (Indiana, anyone? WY-AL.  Kansas and Nebraska!)  Dems from those districts are quite likely to go New Dem or Blue Dog.  And that's ok.  First, it means that we are moving people from R to D, and can then start on D to progressive.  Second, it means that the progressives will be the chairmen of various comittees.  


by dansomone on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 10:54:06 AM EST

what a shock! (none / 0)

so many have told you all this before because it's happened before.

they love to user progressive rhetoric for a value system when they need, like the Church of England trying to get some values in there... but that just sales.

but I can have little sympathy for "playing by the rules" because you said the whole time you would not play by the rules... but did.

anonymous emails to the FP at dkos, etc etc etc etc, calling out the idealists as the real problem and so on and so forth.

They are not scared of Blogosphere Left, The Buzz Machine, that fits how they run things!  They were scared of peer to peer politics... so many ideas for so many directions that they could not keep up.

THAT SCARED THE FUCK OUT OF THEM.

But another place to push bullshit, and demand "sanity"... boring and impotent.


by pyrrho on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 04:39:32 PM EST

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I can think of no-one in the Netroots or anywhere in the party who has put more energy, innovation, and successful ideas in play this cycle than Chris Bowers.

Howard Dean's done a ton as the face of the party. Chris has done as much, if not more, in marshalling the resources of the netroots and of the idle cash pools of Democratic war chests.

As an innate skeptic, I've learned from experience that Chris' instincts and motivations are completely spot on.

Direct it, Chris. Focus your anger. Let's win these midterms, then take it to the next step, whatever that will be.

The New Democrats are as new as George Wallace in 1968. I'm sticking with the Fighting Dems and the Winning Dems and BigTent vision of Chris. Tauscher speaks with all the promise of Stay The Course losers.


by KevinHayden on Mon Oct 30, 2006 at 07:36:41 PM EST

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Ellen Tauscher is an idiot for alienating the base, but she's also an idiot to state that centrist dems will have to "fight" to prevent the party from running over the left cliff.  Whatever power Democrats have after this next election will still be limited.  It's probably about as likely as not that we will only control the House, but if we control the Senate too, it will be by the slimmest of margins.  And then, we have a right-wing nutter of a President, who will veto any decent legislation that comes along and a Republican minority that will make those vetoes stick.  There will still be plenty of Republicans around to stop our agenda.  They won't need Tauscher's help.  One would have thought that in this environment, we'll need to be united to have the hope to get anything done.

Anyway, I'd be willing to accept an apology, complete retraction and a promise to reform.  People do make mistakes.  Because this wing of the party has made this same mistake over and over again, it would be useful learning exercise for others in this wing of the party to see Tauscher apologizing to other Democrats for this type of behavior.

But if she doesn't, then I'm with Chris.  


John McCain will privatize social security.
by gunnar on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 01:10:36 AM EST

Re: California -- East Bay Perspective (none / 0)

As someone who phone-banked for Ellen Tauscher back in 1996 when she first ran for Congress, I agree that a primary challenge would do her good.  She was the good candidate for the District as it existed at the time -- running against a right-wing Republican Congressman in what was really a fiscally conservative but socially liberal suburban district.

But Walnut Creek ain't what it used to be, and the whole area has become consistently more progressive in the last 10 years.  What's even more ironic is that Tauscher was so afraid of a Republican challenge that she carved herself a safe Democratic district after the 2000 census.  So now she represents hard-left areas like El Cerritto that were never part of the original Republican district that she allegedly "saved" us from.

Tauscher is one of those "New Democrats" (i.e., Old Republicans) who are so afraid of the left taking over the party that they beat us down repeatedly with the "electability" mantra.  It's the same assholes that saw no problem with Clinton getting re-elected after signing Welfare Repeal and co-opting Republicans on every single issue.   Ellen, your time was right 10 years ago but like the DLC, you have worn out your welcome.  

We need to find someone good to run against her.  I really liked Mark Friedman who used to serve on the El Cerrito City Council, but I believe that he no longer lives in the District.  Any other ideas??


by Paul Hogarth on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 01:32:19 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

I live in Tauscher's district and will be sending in my absentee ballot tomorrow. I'm not happy with her recent behavior, but I'm also not going to vote Republican. Any suggestions for a good write-in?


by bayareabill on Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 11:04:04 AM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

So, is it too early to plan for '08? http://dumptauscher.blogspot.com/

The only reason I'm asking is, we need a candidate. Who's on the back bench in the district? Who can be the Jerry McNerney of the CA-10?


Start pledging now to dump Ellen Tausher
by Kurlan Naiskos on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 09:49:37 PM EST

Re: Ellen Tauscher Lost An Election Tonight (none / 0)

It is not at all surprising that people would continue to post about Tauscher's upcoming meeting with the president - what is surprising is the level of vitriol... especially when one actually reads Rep. Tauscher's public comments.  From the CC Times blog:

http://www.cctextra.com/blogs/politicsbl og/2006/12/rep_tauscher_to_meet_with_pre s.html

The news has pundits speculating as to whether the White House is trying to drive an SUV between the conservative and liberal wings of the Democratic Party.

It won't work, Tauscher says.

"I'm going to tell the president that I really wished that this was a bigger meeting that included other members of the Democratic leadership, including the Progressive, Hispanic and black caucuses," Tauscher said by phone from the House earlier this afternoon. "This idea that he's going to pick off the moderates is ridiculous.

"We are fully committed members of the Democratic Party and we are foursquare with Speaker Nancy Pelosi. There is no sunshine between us."
When the White House called the New Dems last week to request the meeting, they were skeptical.

"We wanted to know, 'Why now?' " Tauscher said.

"After all, our phones have been working for six years."

But when the President of the United States calls, Tauscher says, members of Congress pick up the phone.

"We are public servants that believe in the U.S. Constitution and the importance of dialogue between the branches of government," she said. "We have had significant complaints about the fact that this White House has not engaged with us for a very long time. But we respect the office and when the president calls, members of Congress want to cooperate."

Don't get the idea that this meeting will break new policy ground. It's only scheduled to last 20 minutes.

"It's barely more than a photo opportunity, a fresh-start kind of meeting," Tauscher said.

"We've made it clear that this is nice and thanks, but we're not going to take it too seriously unless there is some regularity to the offer and our colleagues are included."

Before we go too far down this road, we need to ask ourselves - Who is actually dividing the party?


by mikecox43 on Thu Dec 07, 2006 at 03:34:27 PM EST


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