The Dobsonites scare even conservative Jews.  

And on Israel---I feel, and I know other Jews that feel the same, that the US hasn't been a good friend to Israel lately.  As one of my friends put it "friends don't let friends bomb drunk."  And Israel was hammered.

Going into Iraq has made both the US and Israel less safe.  Not pushing restraint during the Hezbollah war has made both the US and Israel less safe.  

Jewish voters are Democrats. Don't try to tell me otherwise.

And this is why Gore's VP choice was catastrophic.

Lieberman added little to Gore's vote in Fla. because Jewish voters were already Gore's. A conservative Baptist who could add cracker votes from the panhandle would have probably won the election.

And of course Holy Joe didn't just not help the ticket, he actively hurt it by playing kissy-face with Dick Cheney during the debate and by being the world's crappiest VP/attack dog in history.

The two things the running mate is supposed to, he screwed up. And he added very few net votes in Florida.

Bloodying him up in the CT primary was good. But he has not yet suffered enough.

Beat Holy Joe
Beat him bad

I'm jewish.

I've never liked Lieberman.
I thought that his religion was great for diversity -- i thought the type of conservative sway to the dems always held them back.

Its sad to see a jewish member of congress goe but I hope joe goes.

I've never respected most views on 'jewish' issues anyway -- I fully back supporting Israel but I hoped that a clearheaded congress person would get both sides to the table ala Clinton.

Nope.

Its that type of attitude which makes me dislike Lieberman and I hope he gets thrown out by any opponent.

Every single time we talk about Iran their president denys Israel's existance and calls for their distruction -- they own Hezbollah and its a touch situation but I want a senator that actual respect both the jewish religion and keeps true to some core political beliefs.

-- MrMacMan

I've said it 1,000 times. I hate Joe Lieberman and I have always hated him. He came off like such a schmuck with Dick Cheney and ever since he has been nothing but a War Monging, Pro-Censorship, Republican in Dem Clothing.

I'm Jewish, if non-practicing. And I've never trusted Jewish Republicans. Something about a Jew being a Republican just doesn't seem right to me. It's not unlike an African-American being a Republican. What's up with that?

The values and practices of the Republican party--even in its more traditional and less corrupt and incompetent days--go against all traditional Jewish values as I view them, such as charity, compassion, community, fairness, responsibility, honesty, tolerance, and genuine family values. There is nothing remotely Republican about any of these values, especially in this party's current incarnation.

And that whole "rugged individual" aspect of more traditional libertarian Republicanism, while admirable in certain ways, similarly goes against Jewish community-based values. Kinky Friedman notwithstanding (and he's just a parody of himself), Jews don't go for the lone cowboy on the range thing.

In my opinion, Jewish Republicans are basically about assimilating into the white upper class suburban Christian society and value system that they desperately want to be a part of and which to this day defines the soul of the Republican party (Bush I is far more representative of the true GOP than is Bush II or his gang of fools). It's not about morals or ideology, but rather about money, power and class.

And I don't trust or like people who place these values above all else.

Nor do I trust or like the more recent variety of Jewish Republicans who were attracted to the GOP for its aggresive and militaristic neocon agenda. These are typically addle-brained pantywaist momma's boys (and you know we've got a bunch of those in the faith) who still wet their beds and are desperate to appear to be tough and manly IDF warrior wannabees. These are Joe's boys, which makes me like them even less.

And, being originally from Israel, I know for a fact that actual Israelis who've actually served in the IDF (which is far less glamorous than the neocons make it out to be) despise them for the fakes that they are. Picture J Pod or Noah G (sounds like a really bad Jewish rap group--yo yo yo, check out my brass matzoh balls, there be Hebrews in da house!).

The Democratic party is the natural home for not only Jews, but also African-Americans, Hispanics, women, gays, immigrants, other minorities, labor, small farmers, intellectuals, artists, environmentalists and basically anyone who's not just out for themselves. It is America's natural majority party. And it's about to reclaim that rightful title.

I'm Jewish, and Joe Lieberman is hardly representative of the Jews in Congress. By and large, Jews in the House and Senate are extremely liberal and progressive, people like Russ Feingold, Barbara Boxer, Carl Levin, Frank Lautenberg, Jan Schakowsky, Tom Lantos, Henry Waxman, and so many others. Lieberman is an outlier, and especially so on the war in Iraq. Most Congressional Jews opposed the war in Iraq, with a small minority led by Joe Lieberman voting for it (with none of the other Jews gung-ho about actually going in, just pressured by lobbyists to support the resolution).

To the media and to too many Jewish voters, Joe Lieberman has become the face of Jews in American politics. We need to reorient that face to other, more progressive Jews in Congress.

Even here in the south, even here in Hageeland, where we suffered a huge week-end-long "Night For Israel" just two weeks before election day and the weekend before early voting began, I am seeing a softening of support for RW Republicanism among southern conservative Jews.  It is all anecdotal, but combined with the local surge in private Jewish Democratic activism, including things like donations and blockwalking that I see working with my local party, I feel confident saying that the Jewish flirtation with RW Christofascism is probably coming to an end, at least here in So TX.