They Still Don't Get It

We're 16 days out from election day and Democratic leaders and Democratic-aligned interests are still discussing the ultimate strategy for retaking the House.

There has been a lot of talk of expanding the field in the House, challenging races not previously viewed as competitive. The discussion has even reached the stage of how to find the money to invest in the second-, third- and fourth-tier races, with some advocating the DCCC take out a significant loan to cover new expenditures and others, led by Chris, calling on safe Democratic incumbents to pony up more dough.

Judging by recent expenditures by the DCCC, the committee is entering some previously overlooked contests like Nevada 2, Minnesota 1, and Washington 5. However, the vast majority of the committee's independent expenditures in the past week have gone to races in which hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars, have already been allocated. With party allies lobbying for a more limited field of races, as Adam Nagourney and Robin Toner report in The New York Times Sunday, perhaps these numbers shouldn't be surprising.

Democratic candidates in districts that had been considered long shots are now pleading with Mr. Emanuel's committee to send money their way. And some leading Democrats, among them Mr. Greenberg, are urging Mr. Emanuel to seize the moment by expanding the field in which Democrats are competing, saying the party has a chance to cement a big lead in the House in November.

This argument has worried some Democratic strategists, who warn that overconfidence could press party leaders into making decisions that may siphon resources from closely fought races and risk the Democrats' advantage. "On the House side, it makes sense to be focusing on 25 seats to win 14, not 50," said Steve Rosenthal, a political and labor consultant with close ties to the party, who described many Democrats as "overenthused."

"If we had unlimited resources it would be different," Mr. Rosenthal said. "But we have to be careful."

There is little question in my mind that the Democrats should stay on the air in the top-tier House races around the country, spending as much as necessary to ensure that the most clearly endangered Republican incumbents and the most easily won Republican open seats are in play for the Democratic nominee in each district. I know this will cost a lot of money and that the party, its committees and its candidates have limited resources. And yet...

The law of diminishing returns applies to politics, just as it does to economics. The next $50,000 or even $500,000 in a campaign that has already seen several million dollars in expenditures by both sides cannot possibly go as far as $50,000 or $500,000 going to a race that that is not, to this point, as engaged. A one hundred thousand dollar investment in a relatively cheap district like Wyoming at-large or Kansas 2 would almost undoubtedly play a larger role in helping the Democratic nominee in the district win than if that same amount of funds went towards saturating a district slightly more with broadcast ad buys.

In short, the common wisdom of Democratic leaders and party allies might argue for a continuation of of the strategies of the last decade. The Democrats could challenge "25 seats to win 14, not 50" (leaving aside, of course, that the Democrats need 15 seats to gain control of the House, not 14). But by limiting the number of seats being targeted and dumping every cent into the most obvious contests instead of appropriating funds for races in which they might be able to catch a Republican incumbent wholly unprepared for a real challenge the Democrats would actually be limiting their ability to retake the House. It's that simple.



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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

Words of wisdom, truly.  


by KC on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 01:52:45 AM EST

Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

I am not sure that they are limiting their ability to take the house as much as limiting their ability to push through an agenda.  If the point were merely to get a majority then there is nothing wrong with pouring money into fewer targeted races.  The point is that a House with a five seat Democratic majority won't produce meaningful social change like a house with a twenty seat Democratic majority might.


by descartes on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:01:42 AM EST

yup (none / 0)

and a landslide for the dems means that the blue dogs lose their role as dealmakers, which means they lose power, effectively.

i think the narrow focus is deliberate. too many new dems changes leadership race calculus, and not necessarily in hoyer and emmanuel's favor.


by wu ming on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 03:01:39 AM EST
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Re: yup (none / 0)

"appropriating funds for races in which they might be able to catch a Republican incumbent wholly unprepared for a real challenge the Democrats would actually be limiting their ability to retake the House."  If DCCC were to put only $50K into NC-06 or NC-05, the sleeze-ball republican would loose. It's a Sure Thing! They are not expecting any competition, nor are they planning any TV. They're saving their money to buy influence in the 110th  congress ...a congress in which they think they'll still control things.


by bubbleboy on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 09:41:45 PM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

That is some mighty heavy cynicism...


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by HellofaSandwich on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 04:36:44 AM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

I never said that the DCCC was going out of its way to keep a democratic agenda from passing.  Merely that it is a consequence of lessening the number of races funded.


by descartes on Mon Oct 23, 2006 at 01:54:28 AM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

this is confusing-i thought the dccc was targeting many more races that have popped up and they were taking out a loan even. is this now not the case? someone explain. i was giddy-now reading this it sounds like the leadership is divided on what to do and people are already voting in key states?
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by art3 on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:05:57 AM EST

Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

The possibility remains that the DCCC will still expand the field, but they haven't yet.


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by Jonathan Singer on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:19:09 AM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

well dccc hurry up here on this. perhaps i read the dnc was taking moeny out or something.this a such a great opportunity for us this year.


by art3 on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:30:05 AM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

They're keeping their powder dry.


by admiralnaismith on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:14:13 PM EST
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It's Not A Mistake (3.00 / 2)

The Democrats could challenge "25 seats to win 14, not 50" (leaving aside, of course, that the Democrats need 15 seats to gain control of the House, not 14).
Which, of course, is why they want to win 14.


by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:06:29 AM EST

Re: It's Not A Mistake (none / 0)

That quote really is the money shot, isn't it?  I'm sure he'd babble some incoherent explanation for saying "14" if he was called out on it, but you don't need a graduate degree in psych to understand how his brain works.


by dr bloor on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 09:58:22 AM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

Sadly, I recently did an interview with a pretty famous playwright who makes the same comments about the Democrats. He complains on m any fronts they just dont get it which is why he questioned whether they would win.


by bruh21 on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:06:58 AM EST

Funding Races..... (3.00 / 1)

Another argument for spreading the money around to as many races as possible is that we need to recruit new candidates to run for House seats every two years.  It requires enormous personal sacrifice to campaign for a public office.  If potential candidates see that the Democratic hierarchy isn't likely to give them much of a financial boost, they are going to be less likely to commit to running for office.  


by global yokel on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:36:57 AM EST

Re: Funding Races..... (3.00 / 0)

So, true, so true. I've seen that play out in my district.

The weak incumbent in my district (Shelley Moore Capito, WV-02) has greatly benefited from facing three different challengers in three races. It gives her a huge name recognition advantage, fund-raising advantage, and reinforces all of the incumbency advantages.

We've got a strong candidate this time around with a real shot at being an Election day surprise. Nonetheless, Capito's odds are still good. If the DCCC does invest some $$ into the district, it could really change the dynamic in our favor.

Also, in case we do come up short it could make a huge difference in convincing Mike Callaghan to run again. That would effectively pin her down to a two year campaign. It would help quite a bit on the money front as Mike's COH (this time) was depleted by primary spending.


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by SLJ on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 06:13:17 AM EST
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Re: Funding Races..... (none / 0)

What about the powerful WV State Democratic party?  With Byrd, Mollohan and Rahall safe, the state leg wall to wall Democrats, and no Presidential or Governor race this year, it would seem like Democrats statewide would have nothing better to do than mount a full court press against the ONLY substantial Republican in the state.  

WV-2 is a blue district in a blue state.  There's no excuse for it to be any lower than tier-2 in any election cycle, until it takes its rightful place in the Dem column again.


by admiralnaismith on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:20:24 PM EST
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Re: Funding Races..... (none / 0)

That's a very good question! I don't know what's up with that.

I moved here since the last election so I don't know all the background in WV politics. There has been some support for Callaghan from state Dem office holders, but nothing like the full court press you suggest.

I do know the WV-02 Dem challenger (Mike Callaghan) is a former cabinet official for a previous Gov. admin and served for a while as WV Dem party chairman. [When the current government was elected he replaced Callaghan with one of his own buddies.]

I may be totally off base on this, but my feeling is that Callaghan's position on most issues is much closer to the national electorate (and to a progressive platform, for that matter) than many of the existing WV Democrat officeholders. For example, if Callaghan was governor I seriously doubt those stupid "Open for Business" signs would be installed at every highway border point of the state.


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by SLJ on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 03:08:31 PM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

Here in Staten Island/Bay Ridge, we have a great candidate who's dead broke running against a well "oiled" incumbant who won't even use the word "Republican" on his website or in his ads. The experts call this a safe red district, which is total bullshit. There are many reasons for the committees and the folks not up for re election to be very enthusiastic that we can flip this district to the blue column.

1. NY 13 is 3:2 Democrat

2. The Goper in the race is a virtual rubber stamp for the unitary executive.

3 Elliot Spitzer and Hillary Clinton are at the top of the ticket here and there is a better than even chance that their coattails can extend across the Verrazano Bridge.

4. Staten Island has a very high concentration of folks who lost family and friends in the towers. Most of the ones I know or have talked to tend to be on the same page with The Jersey Girls who forced the 9/11 hearings. A good bunch of folks here are really pissed about the war and the fact that bin Laden is thumbing his nose at Bush.

Steve Harrison only needs to speak his truth with a slightly bigger bullhorn, and a dedicated GOTV. I hope someone takes a serious look at this race. Vito Fosssella can be beaten.

Make the Gopers Lament


by Subway Serenade on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 03:00:45 AM EST

Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

NY-13 may just have to wait until redistricting.

I envision Staten Island being bisected into two districts that go along the SI ferry route to become the bottom portions of Nadler and Maloney's safe districts.


by admiralnaismith on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:22:41 PM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

While NY-13 is starved for dollars, bloated spending in NY-24 is harmful near as I can tell.  

The GOP is doing its best to turn the seat from red to blue with really hilarious ads generating bad publicity.  Why interfere with their suicidal impulses by trying to make it mutual?

If you are a hermit living in a cave, you may not have heard about the Republicans claiming that Democrat DA Mike Arcuri charged his phone sex call to the taxpayers.  One comment is @:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/6/ 151544/903

This district didn't seem to me all that great a pickup opportunity as claimed by those who know it least but I didn't reckon with the Republicans overplaying their Rovian hand here and elsewhere.

Maybe we should all be donating to George Bush's efforts to get his message out.  Bush is doing wonders for the Democratic cause that no Democrat seems able to match.

Best,  Terry


by terryhallinan on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 03:56:34 AM EST

Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

It's time for the blogosphere to step in for individual candidates in districts like NY-13. Obviously we don't have the money to match the DCCC.  But if someone (cough, Jonathan, cough) would highlight a candidate on the front page and call on blog readers to support him/her, maybe we could help  a few candidates who need help.  

I know we've been told to go to Actblue repeatedly, but given the level of frustration expressed here, it might be time to start a concerted campaign to correct the DCC strategy.

Besides, if one of the candidates we support wins in spite of the DCCC's neglect, we raise our profile.  We have a chance to rebut the criticism that none of the candidates we support has won.


by KDMfromPhila on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 08:41:09 AM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

Taking the top 25 seats from Chris's House rankings, Democratic candidates have already raised over $1 million in 23 (Chris Carney at $868,442 and Zach Space at $879,427 are the sole exceptions) while Republicans have crossed that barrier in 21 of the races.  

Spending outside money in some of these is a clear waste as Republicans have effectively given up or have huge cash deficits (AZ-8, TX-22, IN-8).  In many others, Democrats either have a cash lead or expenditures are clearly maxed out.  We can't match Vern Buchanan's $4,926,131 in FL-13 but we don't need to do that.

Spending money in "top tier" races is like investing in one run strategies in baseball: it produces fewer runs or fewer seats.  Want to get bang for your buck in PA: invest in Jason Altmire.  A cool $100 K there might very well win the seat.  In NY, I agree with the comment above that NY-13 (where Vito Fossella has only $440 K) that Staten Island is an effective place to go.  NC?  Larry Kissell.  IN?  Joe Donnelly (one of the 25) although I could make a case for causing havoc in a few other districts.  WA?  Peter Goldmark.  IA?  Selden Spencer.

Anybody playing with statistics would, in fact, spread the field far more.  Working out the decision trees would give a much better outcome to that strategy.  Then again, the political "experts" quoted are the same guys that have consistently lost.


by David Kowalski on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 04:36:30 AM EST

Re: Altmire (none / 0)

I just read the DCCC has given around 100k to Altmire.


by phillydem on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 05:50:24 AM EST
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"Spending money in "top tier" races is like investing in one run strategies in baseball: it produces fewer runs or fewer seats."

To extend the baseball analogy, if you don't have scouts and a farm team, you may only have three hitters on the whole team. You have to invest in a one run stategy.  That's what the national Dems are used to. It's hard to break that habit. On the other hand, this is the World Series, not spring training.


by De Re Rustica on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 09:29:08 AM EST
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Re: They Still Don't Get It (3.00 / 0)

Maybe they're going for an OH-02 August 2005-style intervention in some of these races: an ad buy in the last 3 days.

I'm half-kidding.


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by HellofaSandwich on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 05:04:12 AM EST

After we win, Emanuel is out of any leadership! (none / 0)

We're gonna do everything to win in spite of the DCCC's shortsightedness.  Howard Dean went to the mat for us, and Emanuel's gang cut everyone's legs out.  Get us a few bucks at ActBlue and we'll make you proud.  Latest but all choice (too short for a diary entry):
Chagnon beats Mica in Voter Guide "Debate"

Although the Sentinel questions spoon fed Mr. Mica with transportation and immigration softballs, he comes off as paternal, arrogant, out of touch, and heartless.  Compare his answers side-by-side with Jack Chagnon's, and see if you don't agree.  No wonder Mr. Mica backed out of every debate his office agreed to this fall.  

Orlando Sentinel Voters Guide: Comparison of the Candidates
http://www.vgt2004.org/a-orlandosentinel 06/compare-candidates.go?choice1=4550639 &choice2=4550781&x=61&y=10
7th Congressional District


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by chagnon4congress on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 05:23:10 AM EST

Re: After we win, Emanuel is out of any leadership (none / 0)

You kidding?

A 17-seat pickup will be a HUGE victory! HUGE! And Emmanuel will claim ALL of the credit, with the press noting that he had to overcome not only the Republicans but "interference" from Dean and the liberal blogosphere, who kept trying to distract them by trying to take resources away from the 17 key districts and putting them into hopeless long shots.  

Proved to be hopeless, of course, by the fact that the cash-starved challengers did not in fact win.


by admiralnaismith on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:28:44 PM EST
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Re: The current 5th top story at Yahoo! News is... (none / 0)

"Democrats: More seats coming into play"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061022/ap_o n_el_ge/election_stakes

As I understand, the DCCC has come in with money in PA-04 (Hart vs Altmire) for Jason Altmire. It will make a difference for him.


by phillydem on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 05:46:43 AM EST

Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

I don't understand the people that run our system. $50K would make a huge difference in my district. There's got to be at least 4 other districts where $50K-$100K would raise the odds of winning such that we'd get at least one more of those seats.

That's a lot more meaningful than putting $500K into one or two over-saturated markets.

Spreading the field further also pins the Republicans down further. Putting $50K-$100K into less expensive races where it can a bigger difference keeps Republicans from moving any resources--people or money--out of those races, too.

There's got to be some weak points in their GOTV operation. We're a lot more likely to expose them by putting down markers in more districts than by doubling-down on the last bet.


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by SLJ on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 06:23:30 AM EST

How to gain more D.C. influence next cycle (none / 0)

Beat Holy Joe
Beat him bad


by stevehigh on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 07:51:39 AM EST

Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

In IL-19, a drop of 50K-100K from the DCCC, DNC or an unopposed Representative would be a significant boost to Danny Stover. IL-19 is the largest Congressional District east of the Mississippi and is filled with dozens of rural and small towns with low cost newspaper advertisements and radio ads. Most TV markets in the district are near the bottom of national rankings and cable buys compared to Chicago, New York etc. are incredibly cheap. The ads and commercials are ready ... Danny Stover ...(click on video #9) just needs the $$$$ to flood District 19 and the Democrats will pick up a House seat that few ever expected. This is a reality ... not a dream. Il-19's current Rep. is Foley Five member, John Shimkus.
by akdude6016 on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 11:44:39 AM EST

Re: They Still Don't Get It (none / 0)

You mean "Shamekus"


by admiralnaismith on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:29:45 PM EST
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I don't think they want to get it.  I just saw the most ridiculous ad for Dianne Feinstein.  It was at best a vanity ad and at worst a totally unnecessary expenditure as she is going to win regardless.  If that money had been spent on an ad -- by Feinstein -- supporting Charlie Brown or Jerry McInerney -- Feinstein would have done two things, she would have supported the Democratic brand and she would have earned gratitude from Dems state-wide.  But the Dems in office seem to have been around the GOP too long; they're out to maintain their own power, not provide opportunities for other Democratic voices to gain control.  It is very much like the way powerful and rich Dems in California refused to back Angelides allowing Schwarzenneger to coast to victory so they can control the Dem power in this state and run their own guy for Gov in 2010.  We've not only got to take the country back, we have to take back our party.


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by katerina on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 01:09:37 PM EST

They DON'T WANT TO 'Get It' (none / 0)

Emmanuel and his fools don't want to win and I have come around to the conclusion it might be best if these Dems don't win. Can you just see Schumer and Rahm sucking Bush's dick for two years.

Until we get enough real Democrats in office to put some real leadership in place in the House and Senate we will not see any change.

The task before us is to start this process.

It will take years.

I look forward to smacking the ReThugs every day of that time.

With Tester, Sestak, Duckworth and others we will start to have a voice in Congress.

A voice which should be used to condemn not only the vile Pederast Party but also the Bidens, Schumers and Emmanuels of the 'Democrat' Party.

Hopefully Ned Lamont will make it in too. The thought of the scum Liarmann backstabbing every progressive in sight is truly repugnant.


by Pericles on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 01:41:25 PM EST

Re: They DON'T WANT TO 'Get It' (none / 0)

No, step one is to win with as many new young, committed Democrats as possible.  Can't have a leadership coup if there's no one to seize the reins.


by admiralnaismith on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 02:31:17 PM EST
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