Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning?

This race in Connecticut is puzzling.  The Q-poll is mostly nonsense.  It was completed last night at 9pm, with the Q-poll director Doug Schwartz pretending as if the second debate, which ended an hour earlier, figured into the results.  I don't know why Schwartz would act so unprofessionally.  Maybe he's just embarrassed about his earlier predictions that Lieberman would easily win the primary, or that anti-Bush feeling wasn't hurting Lieberman.  I don't know.  But the poll isn't right.  Still, it's undeniable that Lieberman is leading, and probably by 10-14 points.  That's a lot to make up.  It's not impossible, especially with Alan Schlesinger in the race and with Joe's ballot position as bad as it is.  But Lieberman isn't going down easily at all.

Now, this race is exceptionally strange, because it means that Connecticut is cutting against the national tide pretty aggressively.  Not only is Lieberman doing well, but the three Congressional Democratic challengers aren't doing as well as they should be considering the national environment.  Is there something in the water here?  Well, no, but there's a lot of confusion.  There's something wrong with the conventional wisdom of this race, and that's impacting voting choices for low information voters.  Right now, the conventional wisdom is that Lieberman's support is coming from Republicans who support the war and unaffiliated and Democrats who support Joe on other issues.  Lamont carries the strictly antiwar vote, but hasn't broadened beyond that.  The CW assumes that the war just isn't that important here.

But does that really make sense?  Is the war is less important in Connecticut than nationally?  I don't think so.  Could it be Lamont?  Is it because Lamont didn't successfully paint himself as opposed to the war?  Not likely.  So what is going on, exactly?

I believe the answer is in these two ads.  This is Joe Lieberman's first ad in the primary campaign.

This is Joe Lieberman's first ad in the general election.

Notice the dramatic shift in Lieberman's positioning on the war?  Believe it or not, this shift has gone mostly unnoticed by bloggers and the press.  I certainly didn't pick it up until recently.

Don't cringe, but I'm reminded of Iowa and Dean in 2004, where a Kerry staffer told me that John Kerry and Howard Dean have 'basically the same position on the war'.  Despite a very antiwar voting bloc, Kerry took first place, Edwards took second, and Dean got a measly 18%.  I'm not saying that that's what's going to happen here, but what I am saying is that Joe Lieberman is framing himself as something of aan antiwar candidate, repeatedly saying that 'no one wants to end the war in Iraq more than I do.'  This is an intelligent way to misrepresent his opinion, because there's no way to know how much Joe Lieberman 'wants' anything.  That's unproveable one way or the other.  

What is clear is that his record of wanting to stay the course was pretty solid until the general election, and his actions didn't suggest that he 'wanted' to end the war at all.  Just eleven months ago, he wrote an Op-Ed called 'Our Troops Must Stay', in which he lauded the administration strategy:

Does America have a good plan for doing this, a strategy for victory in Iraq? Yes we do. And it is important to make it clear to the American people that the plan has not remained stubbornly still but has changed over the years. Mistakes, some of them big, were made after Saddam was removed, and no one who supports the war should hesitate to admit that; but we have learned from those mistakes and, in characteristic American fashion, from what has worked and not worked on the ground. The administration's recent use of the banner "clear, hold and build" accurately describes the strategy as I saw it being implemented last week.

Earlier this month, Lieberman spokesperson Dan Gerstain contradicted this by saying:

Dan Gerstein, communications director for Lieberman's campaign, said it was an "out-and-out lie" to say that Lieberman favors a stay-the-course policy in Iraq.

This even as Lieberman surrogates said the opposite:

Staff Sgt. James Liska said Lamont's position on the war changes with his audience. Whereas, "Joe Lieberman has consistently said we're going to stay the course," he said.

Lieberman has been similarly slippery on Iran, John Bolton, Donald Rumsfeld, and whether we're making progress in Iraq.  He's running as an antiwar Democrat when talking to public at large, and a conservative Republican when talking to Republicans.  He lets surrogates signal to Republicans that Joe is their choice, surrogates such as George Bush, who spoke publicly about Lieberman as someone purged from the 'Democrat' Party because he supports 'victory in Iraq'.

That's why this race is so hard, in a nutshell.  Joe Lieberman has promised to end the war in Iraq, and it's a message that a substantial number of antiwar Democrats, Republicans, and unaffiliated voters want to hear.  They don't want to believe that the person they voted for three times, Joe Lieberman, introduced the war resolution, undercutting a more responsible resolution by Biden that would have called for a larger UN role and more emphasis on planning for a post-war Iraq.  They don't want to hear that Lieberman just called for regime change in Iran, and they don't want to recognize that Lieberman just put his support towards John Bolton, the most pugnacious and anti-UN Bush official, a man who pushed the WMD line inside the State Department and scuttled the North Korean negotiations.

The Connecticut press has by and large accepted the conventional wisdom that Lieberman is for Bush's war, and Lamont is against it.  But that's not actually what the electorate thinks.  The electorate listened to Lieberman's commercials, and at least some portion of them believe that he's not really that pro-Bush or pro-war.  I mean, he used to be a Democrat, and said he'll caucus with them, right?

So in Connecticut, the three Republicans and Joe Lieberman are able to blur the line between them and the Democrats on the war, because the press doesn't know that the public doesn't know.  In the rest of the country, Lieberman's trick, of using his party affiliation to hide his political affiliation, doesn't work, and so the contrast is starker.  

This is a really interesting story, and it's something I hope the Connecticut press pursues.  Lieberman won't explicitly admit to a change in position on Iraq, but his commercials, and the message he's putting out around the press, say that he has changed even as surrogates like George Bush and Dick Cheney quietly defend Lieberman's GOP credentials.

What a ride!



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Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Excellent analysis, Matt. We've got to understand, fully, clearly, what happens here, regardless of the outcome. Thanks for providing such a crucial on-the-ground report. You're our Michael Ware, you know? Keep it coming, please.


by Sun Tzu on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 07:15:47 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Well then it's Lamont's job to spend more of his money attacking Lieberman in no uncertain terms that Lieberman is not what he says he is.  Like saturation.  Get mean on this fucker.

No more mister nice guy or SILLY cutesy ads.  Iraq is deadly serious and funny ads are very inappropriate.

And before anyone says anything, I only live up the road from CT and have politically active friends there who have televisions and know what kind of ads have been on.


McCain is defining Obama, and Obama is neither defining himself, nor McCain. This is awful.
by jgarcia on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 07:23:08 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Right, TELL them that Lieberman introduced the war resolution. SHOW him touting the war during the primary in his own words.


by antiHyde on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 07:42:00 PM EST
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Exactly (3.00 / 1)

We keep hearing that Lamont is running hard hitting ads and staying aggressive but, if he is, examples of those ads never show up on any of the many blogs I frequent.  He needs some sixty-second ads that lay it out, with snips from Leiberman tape where Lieberman says he won't change his mind on the war, says we must stay the course, endorses Rumsfeld, etc.  There is a story here and Lamont needs to tell it.  The DSCC certainly won't.  Kerry let the Republicans frame his war service.  Dean, a moderate on all issues but the war, let others and the media define him as an ultra liberal.  Lamont just has two weeks to keep Lieberman from defining Lamont as radically antiwar in contrast to his own moderate, centralist antiwar-ism.  Connecticut, of all places, should be receptive to Lamont's creative telling of this truthful story.


by Arthurkc on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 07:38:10 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

This is slightly OT but..... am I the only one who worries that if Lieberman loses he might run as an independent Presidential candidate in 2008 and hand the election to the Republicans?

Let me qualify that by saying it's not a huge worry, and it certainly hasn't stopped me sending Ned money, but I do think of it from time to time. Mostly though, I think of the satisfaction of seeing him lose this one........


by AndyG on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 07:39:11 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

No chance! He wouldn't even do as well as Nader.

He might run for his ego, "America for Lieberman" wouldn't even do as well as the Constitution Party.


by antiHyde on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 07:44:16 PM EST
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he will be chasing McCain's veep slot (none / 0)

The GOP will be dangling that in front of Joe--of course it would never happen, but he will be flattered by the attention and will start voting with Republicans more often to make himself an acceptable veep choice. He will think he's going to make history by being the only person nominated for veep by two different parties.


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by desmoinesdem on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 01:42:26 AM EST
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Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Good post.  The ads were great when Ned was introducing himself to the voters but it's time to stand up and call Joe out on his record.
The guy quit the party when he was rejected by its voters...what else do you need?

Oh, right:

Iraq vote

Energy bill vote

'Criticizing the President at the nation's peril' comment.

'Time for a change' when running againt Weicker.

The Kiss.

Hell, just string together some clips of Joe's actions and public statements - wouldn't cost much.


by Karatist Preacher on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 07:47:06 PM EST

It's time for the Lyndon Johnson approach... (none / 0)

Start showing dead bodies and flag draped coffins. Statement of Joe supporting War in Iraq picture of Joe kissing Bush and ending with more death and carnage. This is what Joe supports then the people of Connecticut should know. It's time for devastingly negative ads.


by Erik on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 08:19:26 PM EST

Sounds like Matt read my mind... (none / 0)

   I posted this on the other thread:

"Consider four senators. Like Joe Lieberman, they're incumbents up this year -- George Allen, Jim Talent, Conrad Burns, Mike DeWine.

All four occupy more or less the same ideological space Joe Lieberman does.

And all four are in trouble -- locked in tight, close races. Despite all four being in red states.

So why isn't this backlash affecting Joe Lieberman -- in a state much less conservative than Virginia, Missouri, Montana or Ohio?

It just doesn't add up. What kind of pixie dust does Lieberman sprinkle on himself?"

 Matt's post points the way to an answer...


by Master Jack on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 08:22:29 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Does anyone know how much money the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee is giving Lamont?  Money talks and says much about how much the Democrats want the Democratic candidate to win.....


by plumtern on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 08:22:57 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

The DSCC doesn't "give" money as much as it makes independent advertising (tv, mail, radio) expenditures on behalf of campaigns.

As of today, they have done so in MO, MD, OH, MT, NJ, RI, TN and VA.  Not in CT yet, but, really oddly, not PA.  (Hadn't noticed.)


by Adam B on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 08:47:55 PM EST
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Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

I thought I've seen stuff in PA. Maybe it was 527's?


by Erik on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 12:19:13 PM EST
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Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

There's been the Softer Voices stuff for Santorum on welfare reform.


by Adam B on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 03:49:17 PM EST
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Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (3.00 / 2)

I'm not a slave to polls. Since '96 I've learned to trust fundamental handicapping and common sense. I posted the night of the primary that Lieberman figured to lead the November dynamic by high single digits and I'll stick with that, in regard to where the race stands.

For the life of me I don't understand being baffled about this race. It figured to be stagnant and has been stagnant. This isn't a primary, where the Democratic base was enraged at Lieberman and it was a simple question of getting enough of them to believe Lamont had a chance, enough of a chance to get them to the polls in hatred of Lieberman.

OK, now the general. Lieberman always figured to hold 30-35% of Democrats based on 18 years of incumbency and the comfort level that provides. Hell, he failed by only 52-48 in the primary. So now Lamont is dependent on WINNING votes elsewhere, not inheriting them simply by not being Joe Lieberman. And the blocks where he's trying to win those votes are moderate and conservative, and by-and-large do not hate Joe Lieberman.

I must be mishing something here. This isn't complicated at all. Especially since the Connecticut independents are more moderate than we prefer, obvious via the 2004 exit poll in which liberals are only 26% in the state, to 24% conservatives and 50% moderates. Let's be real, Lamont is considered liberal to Lieberman moderate. And Lieberman has twice as much of a ideological base to pull from. Newsflash: that was the reasoning behind his independent bid. Call it traitorous or disgraceful or self-absorbed and I'll agree. But it was also very smart in terms of raw numbers.

I don't know why we're trying to ignore that, and pretending an earlier start from Lamont or a different message from Lamont could have been trump cards. It gives Ariana Huffington something to write about, but little basis in reality.

Evicting entrenched incumbents is hardly a boat ride. That's the other variable being wonderfully downplayed, in regard to the Connecticut races and elsewhere.


by Gary Kilbride on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 08:37:08 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

To channel a "low information voter" for a minute, whatever Lamont's personal qualities, he looks like a pampered yuppie and has all the gravitas of a popular fifth grade history teacher. He just doesn't look, act or sound like a fighter.

Leiberman on the other hand has the voice of a smoke alarm, actually looks a bit like an English bulldog and is so obviously a fighter that he didn't give up when he lost the Democratic primary.

The image I get from the last two months of Lamont is that he's easily outflanked by people who don't play by polite rules and that he never colors outside the lines.

The image I take away from Lieberman is that he's creative, adaptible, determined and ruthless.

Personally, if I was a Connecticut voter, I wouldn't vote for Lieberman because of the direction he wants to take the country, but from a strictly frivilous weighing of the two, Lamont comes across as a whimp while Lieberman comes across as a pit bull. I can see the appeal for those voters that respect fighting spirit.


by ktoz on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 09:46:29 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Your analysis isn't right. You only see two positions--stay the course and anti-war. That's not the way most people see it. There is at least another position and then there are a bunch of variations on it--it is win the war in Iraq. Leiberman does not support stay-the-course, but he does support changing the way we fight. Just because the politcal talking heads have decided to frame the issue as an either or doesn't mean that is how it is playing with real voters...plus, for the record, Lamont is a tool. Not sure when people are going to get that you can't take an empty vessel and fill it will your positions and espect that the candidate will come off as sincere, but the sooner they do the better.


by Chris1458 on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 10:01:24 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

He supports changing the way we fight?  How?  Or is it that he supports changing to win, but won't tell us anything about how until after the election.

Just like Bush...


by Redshift on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 01:42:23 AM EST
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Perhaps we have to remind voters what he said (none / 0)

Even during the debate,  if I do not know Joe Lieberman I would have thought he was also anti-war.

He sure uses the anti-war rhetorics.

Is there a way to question that ad--like rehashing his old quotes in an AD.

I guess as an incumbent, people are willing to forgive him as long as he sounds reasonable but how truthful is this knowing his previous quotes. This Ad should be challenge then.


by jasmine on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 10:07:11 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

The strangest thing about this election is the Republicans.  First, how are they suppressing the Schlesinger vote to the 5% level, and more importantly, why?  I wouldn't think that 90% of Connecticut Republicans would back a guy with a zero rating from the Conservative Union and a 90% rating from the ACLU just because he'll give them one issue.  There's got to be more principled Conservatives in CT than that.  But beyond that, why would they?  It clear from the primary that the Democrats are split pretty evenly.  If the majority party vote is split, isn't that a perfect opportunity for the opposition party to unify and steal a seat?  It's just crazy on their part, especially with a GOP Governor at the top of the ticket that will win by 25%. The GOP should have been on the air for Schlesinger from the day Joe announced he's running.  I know the polls then showed Joe comfortably ahead, but the whole national press was covering the Dem primary.  Those polls were meaningless if the GOP were serious about this seat.

If the GOP wants to shoot themselves in the foot, more power to them, but I think they wasted a prime opportunity here.  Despite all the bluster, I don't think there's any chance that Lieberman switches parties.  The GOP basically just gave this one away by allowing Dem to run against Dem.


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by NJIndependent on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 10:24:13 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

The seeds of Lamont's troubles go back to his early decision -- and the passions of those who backed him -- to focus overtly on being anti-war.  You don't see many (or maybe even any) other candidates who have taken that tack.

Iraq was a weight that was already doing all the damage it needed to do.  The key to using Iraq was indirection: first revealed to us all through Katrina.  The way to campaign against Lieberman, from the get-go was to tie him to Bush, not the Iraq War.  Tying Lieberman to the Iraq War itself was a mistake, in part because it's allowed him to do exactly what he's done: restate his opinon on the war.

Anti-war views are not popular even now.  It's not a platform you can run on.  It never was -- not even at the height of the Vietnam War.


by MarkB on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 10:40:14 PM EST

My thought at the beginning (none / 0)

Still seem to be true -

I said the following:

"I don't see how he can lose the general, at this point.  Please convince me that my reasoning below is wrong, since this community is the analytical progressive one.

The voters who voted for Lieberman - and then voters in the general:

a. They already knew that he would run independent.
b. When people commit to a vote, they usually stay committed.
c. That Hilary and Bill Clinton, other members of the establishment will now stump for Ned, won't make that much difference, as it didn't make a difference in electing Ned in the primary.
c. All the other people in the state - who are, and have been, comfortable with Joe - will now have a chance to act on their comfort."

End of re-comment from August 9th.

While I had quite a lot of people explain the rationale of why Lieberman would lose, most of that was incorrect.  Democrats who voted for Lieberman, are somewhat happy with him, and Independents who voted for Lieberman, are still pretty happy with him.

I think the only hope now, is if - as Chris has said - is for Republicans to vote for their own candidate.

But that is a small hope, given the borg-like push of Lieberman by the Repub party, and the small money available to Schlesinger.


by jc on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 11:45:44 PM EST

Agree with those saying, "why puzzled?" (none / 0)

As an outsider to this, from the Midwest, I had this outcome in mind from the get-go, or more accurately from the time Lamont was put forward.   I'm not sure why the Democrats cannot fathom this very plain and simple point:  When you are going against an incumbent, unless he/she is a scandalous lout, it really helps to have a candidate who looks, acts, sounds, and has a record that looks like he/she would be an outstanding office holder.  

I didn't see any of that in Lamont.  All I saw was that he was jumping in there, without much by way of credentials, trying to ride a wave of public displeasure over the war and talking like he was another well-off and socially connected Liberal (with a capital L).  I thought, "well, maybe that's all it takes in a NorthEastern state ... but I'll have to see it to believe it".  

I wonder if this lesson will be learned by 2008.  I'm not very optimistic; hopeful, as I am disgusted with the record of many, many incumbents on the Hill.  But what evidence is there that the Democrats are likely to get this?  


by Terry Ott on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 12:24:27 AM EST

CT hates Greenwich (none / 0)

I've got another simpler reason why Lieberman is winning. Most people in Connecticut hate Greenwich and the overprivileged, pampered brats that come from it. Lamont appears the consomate "limousine liberal" who bought himself the nomination.

I think Lieberman is just a sore loser. He should have honored the opinion of the Democratic voters or never run in the primary. But most people in Connectituct see it differently; they believe Lieberamn will caucus as a Democrat and will continue to vote with Democrats on most issues. And they see him as a legitimate working-class guy, not a Fairfield County wimp.


by elrod on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 01:31:39 AM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

A not insignificant part of the power of incumbency comes from the expectation of seniority and power (in addition to familiarity.)  The best thing the Senate Democrats could do for the race would be to strip Lieberman of his seniority and publicize it widely, since he's running against the party's candidate.  (They should have done it after the primary -- not much use negotiating with him to drop out if you don't follow through on the threat.)

It may seem risky, but they really have very little to lose.  If Lieberman wins, he's going to squeeze as much out of them as he can in return for only working against the Dems' interests as much as he already did, rather than openly breaking with them, regardless of his "pledge" to caucus with them.


by Redshift on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 01:40:23 AM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

I don't think CT voteres are stupid.  Like the rest of "us", they tend to put incumbents back in Washington.  Fact is, getting reelected for 4 or 6 more years is more of a certainty than being married 4 or 6 years out.  

CT married Lieberman many years ago; I married my wife 38 years ago.  There are times when both she and I had reason to question if we SHOULD be married; each of us has habits and views the other doesn't agree with.  But married we are and most of the time, on most things, we pretty much see eye to eye, or at least have decided to look past the short-term differences we might have.  I think it's kind of that same way with voters.

Voters MIGHT be swept off their feet by a truly outstanding alternative candidate, just as my wife or I MIGHT have been if that truly exceptional "other guy" showed up at the perfect time and been so "right" and appealing (on many levels) that one of us decided we just HAD to make a break.  But that isn't going to happen just any old time or for "just another pretty face" or for someone who isn't absolutely terrific.

You're asking the state to divorce Joe.  Not only do you have to make a case that Joe is pretty terrible, up and down the line, but that the "other choice" is, as I said, exceptional.  Voters get comfortable in a long marriage,  Lamont is like the other person in an affair.  Most of the time, they get dropped.


by Terry Ott on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 01:41:24 AM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

A long time ago I spent two years in Connecticut. I grew up in Arizona. I've lived in California and I now live in Missouri. To this day I maintain that politics in Connecticut is the most incromprehensible mess I've ever witnessed first hand.

Ask Lowell Weicker about income taxes.


543,895 votes
by Michael Bersin on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 06:44:38 AM EST

Winning the CT nomination again (none / 0)

The real Democrat

The polls so far, which are not determinative of the outcome, measure the belief that Lieberman, not Lamont, is somehow the legitimate winner of the Democratic Primary.

These polls reflect a sense that Lamont is an unknown quantity. In this way, the comparison to Dean vs. Kerry is a valid one.

But, unlike Dean, Lamont has the support of the Democratic Party. The voters don't know, or care, if the national committees have sent money; name Democrats throughout the state and the country support him. Their support appears lukewarm because Lamont has not thoroughly embraced it and publicized it.

Further, lagging in the polls is never a good way to get elected officials to flock toward you. But Lamont can still earn badly-need credibility among all voters by demanding the respect that beating Holy Joe in the primaries gives him.

Race is closer than it appears

Democrats and Republicans will natural trend homeward because of party identification. Ballot position will also help. And a strong Lamont GOTV will add another point or two.

So the windup of the race looks closer than it is right now.

Power of endorsements to build credibility

New England Democrats Kerry and Kennedy are enormously popular among CT Democrats; their rejection of Lieberman is potentially very powerful.

Lieberman is the only Democratic incumbent in the nation to be rejected by his own party. That he is still in the race is a freak of nature.  It's not that they have to attack their colleague; their support for Lamont implies opposition to Lieberman strongly enough.

Challenging Holy Joe's incumbency

Lieberman's "incumbency advantage" is seriously compromised because his party has rejected him, and in the final days, Lamont needs to push his credibility upward by insisting on his status as the "real Democrat" while pushing Lieberman's downward by emphasizing his failure to win his own nomination.

Lamont need not count on name Democrats coming into the state to campaign for him. They've lent their names and cannot back away from those endorsements. With a financial advantage, Lamont can pound those endorsements--and the "real Democrat message--into the consciousness of CT voters with advertising.

Schlesinger, too, will surge a bit. The latest polls do not reflect his success in the debates nor his natural advantage as the "real Republican." I think Lamont's running attack ads against Schlesinger is a good idea because a traditional D vs R contrast squeezes Holy Joe.

What out-of-staters can do

Many tactical ideas can still be executed. But the important thing is to embolden the local campaign. When the French arrived to help American revolutionaries, the moral support may have done more than the tangible contribution of the French Navy.

The Internet can make a difference here if it can make a difference anywhere. We need to start making that difference and then spinning it hard. Matt's "crazytown" article changing anti-Lamont atmospherics; we need to follow up on the ground.

Nothing is more important than fighting spirit.

Closing the sale

Lamont's antiwar reputation brings him a signficant number of independent and Republican votes. This can be strengthend a bit through direct mail targeted to the wealthy suburbs if not better selection is available.

What remains is to close the sale with working and middle-class Democrats.


by stevehigh on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 10:02:32 AM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Very interesting theory, seems like as good an explanation as anything.  This is the best analysis and explanation that I have seen, I have no idea if you're right, but it makes a lot of sense, thanks.


by cwech on Sun Oct 22, 2006 at 08:08:21 PM EST

Re: Why Is Antiwar Joe Lieberman Winning? (none / 0)

Can't the Lamont team dig up several video clips of Lieberman flip flopping within a short time frame to different audiences in order to demonstrate that Joe has no integrity, or at least no verbal consistency?


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Iraq is a country that needs a long term drug rehab because if we are to be honest, we can't say when the war will be over and when all will as "nice" as it can be there. Iraq is a long term investment.


by tiberiu on Tue Apr 29, 2008 at 11:47:27 AM EST

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Yes Tiberiu, you are right! Iraq is a long term investment, but I am wondering if there is really someone who want to invest un that country or, after they will take all the oil there, they will just... leave!
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by timada on Thu May 01, 2008 at 08:21:17 PM EST


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