Bush Defends Lieberman

Well this is nice.
You know, the Democrat Party made a clear statement about the nature of their party when it came to how they dealt with Senator Joe Lieberman. He's a three-term Democrat from Connecticut who supports completing the mission in Iraq. He took a strong, principled stand, and he was purged from the Democrat Party.

Think about what it means. Six years ago, the Democrats thought that Joe Lieberman was a good enough man and a good enough politician to run as the Vice Presidential candidate. Now, because he supports victory in Iraq for the sake of security in the United States, they don't think he's fit to be in their party. There's only one position in the Democratic Party that everybody seems to agree on. If you want to be a Democrat these days, you can be for almost anything, but victory in Iraq is not an option.

The Democratic establishment needs to wake up. Joe. Is. Not. On. Your. Side.



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Watch their eyes (none / 0)

I think this remark got tossed in response to overnight polls.


by stevehigh on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:13:18 PM EST

I dont get it. (none / 0)

You know if the Dems strike now hard against Lieb, they will be able to sway all the voters who dont like Lieb but are voting for him for sentimental reasons or out of caution.

I can't see how Lieberman can survive that loss of legitimacy if Reid, Pelosi, Dodd and Ted Kennedy give strong statements against Lieberman saying that they supported before because he was a long term member and friend but his actions in recent months have surpassed any norms of party loyalty with his constant denigration of party members without saying a single bad word about the republicans.

That's why I dont buy the argument that most Dems are afraid of Lieberman. They just like the status quo. Schumer, sure as hell, wants to see Lieberman win. Hillary wouldn't mind. Reid put out a letter, but a little too late. He should give a statement on video or in person to make up for lost time. He should equivocally say Lieberman will lose seniority putting Lieberman on the spot whether he will caucus with the Dems. Lieberman will refuse to answer. Then the leadership will put out a statement that if Lieberman cannot commit, he is pretty much a republican at this point. THen, I want to see if the pragmatic portion of the 35% plus dems which is still supporting Lieb will continue to do so even at that point. Why don't the dems do their version of war games and see how things play out under each scenario like I just did? They got more resources to do more precise electorate research.


by Pravin on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:17:00 PM EST

Re: Bush Defends Lieberman (3.00 / 1)


  Bush is such a goddamn ass.

 "Victory" in Iraq? What the hell does THAT mean?

 And why did the Republicans purge Alan Schlesinger? And that wasn't the voters who did that; that was the establishment. Anybody ask them that?


by Master Jack on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:23:14 PM EST

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Well, at least Bush finally admits it:

"..victory in Iraq is not an option."

What an idiot.  This is what America gets for voting in the class clown instead of the smartest guy in the class in 2000.


Enough is enough!
by Bear83 on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 11:19:33 PM EST
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Re: Bush Defends Lieberman (3.00 / 1)

Once when I was a kid I saw a dog lying in the middle of a busy highway after it had been hit by a car. Its back was broken and it was only a matter of time before another car ran over it again and killed it outright. It laid there in the road and howled horribly. It awful.

It sounded just like Shrub here.


by billmon on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:29:36 PM EST

God I hate Joe!!! (3.00 / 1)

If we beat Joe no matter what else happens I will be an happy man.


Gandhi - "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
by HCLiberal on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:32:33 PM EST

Re: God I hate Joe!!! (3.00 / 1)

Ditto that.


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by forecaster15 on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 11:00:48 PM EST
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Jesus Christ (3.00 / 1)

How long are we going to let these assholes get the name of our party wrong?  It's not the "Democrat Party," it's the Democratic Party.

We should have a naming contest to come up with a fake name for the Republican Party, as they have for us.  The "Iraq Party"?  The "Foley Party"?  The "Abramoff Party"?


by lorax on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:32:59 PM EST

Re: Jesus Christ (none / 0)

Republican Party can be shorten to Repub Party.


Gandhi - "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
by HCLiberal on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 11:52:41 PM EST
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That's not the fucking point (none / 0)

I'm not looking for an abbreviation, I'm looking for a slur.  They call the Democratic Party the "Democrat Party" because it polls lower and because it sounds like "rat" or "bureaucrat."  It's complete bullshit because that is not the name of our party.  So in fairness, we should call them something like the "Deficit Party" or something else that polls badly but is not actually their party's correct name.


by lorax on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 12:58:13 AM EST
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Re: That's not the fucking point (none / 0)

Take it easy, I am sure the Rupub Party would not poll as high as the Republican Party.  If you try too hard at this game, you lose.


Gandhi - "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
by HCLiberal on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 01:59:02 AM EST
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the Greedy Old Party (none / 0)

   a name that fits them well. or Repubs, which sounds vaguely creepy. Their policies are so bad that you have to back into the pub for another stiff drink...


by Zack from the SFV on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 02:35:08 AM EST
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Re: Jesus Christ (none / 0)

Did you notice that on one occasion in the Bush statement, Bush refers to the "Democratic party" and not the "Democrat party."  I bet some junior staffer had to put a dollar in the beer fund for that slip up.

As for what to call the Republican party, how about the Republican'ts?

Steve


by scd2 on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 02:56:13 AM EST
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Re: Jesus Christ (none / 0)

Careful. This is calculated to raise Democrats' ire and distract them from responding to the issues. It's just like the smug one-note freeper attacks, since adopted by the likes of Ann Coulter -- hammer away on something so ridiculous on its face that your opponent is too stunned to respond properly.

It's not like they're going to stop using it. And they have so many synonyms they could switch to (Demotard, Lib-Dem, Commies). Best to remind yourself of them before entering the fray, so you don't take your mind off the ball.


by Dan Hartung on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 03:35:11 AM EST
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Ringing endorsement (none / 0)

Heh. A ringing endorsement from the worst president ever. That'll really help.


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by Michael Bersin on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:49:24 PM EST

Re: Bush Defends Lieberman (none / 0)

I noticed that Bush got forgot the Republican stylebook for a second when he said, "There's only one position in the Democratic Party that everybody seems to agree on." Come on, George, don't you know that all good Republicans behave like kindergarteners in a sandbox fight and deliberately mispronounce their rivals' names? You said "Democratic Party" when you're supposed to say "Democrat Party". Don't you remember that Joe McCarthy popularized this distorted usage back in the 1950s? Don't you want to maintain this glorious name-calling tradition?

Especially when it's about all you have left.


by Zeno on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:52:28 PM EST

Re: Bush Defends Lieberman (3.00 / 1)

Who are the Democrats in Connecticut who think that the guy Republicans want in the Senate is also the guy THEY want in the Senate? And have their houses been checked for lead paint?


by Lucas O'Connor on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 10:58:20 PM EST

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 If Joe wins, all the other efforts and hopefully victories in the Senate races are not going to be enough, unless we sweep the board, EXCEPT for Connecticut.

 Joe IS NOT a Democratic Party representative no more.  He is like an independent, who will caucus with the party that pays him the most.  We are not talking money, but power; the quickest way to Holy Joe's heart.  

 And don't forget the Secretary of Defense job.  Jow would be replaced by a Repug, with Joe characterizing it as a chance at a greater good.  What the job will really be is the price for Joe's soul.


by ocdemocrat on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 11:25:22 PM EST

The secret about Al Gore 2000 (none / 0)

My husband once related to me that Al Gore was indecisive,  in 2000.  He was very similiar to Joe, when Joe is losing - aka "joementum".

I wonder if, really - the reason why Gore was intimidated into calling the election for Bush, despite him having had won it - had to do with his proximity to Joseph Lieberman.

After all, Joe Lieberman did something in 2000 that had an effect on us all: he took the Vice Presidency, and set it secondary to his own senate run. He actually stopped campaigning for Al Gore and went back to connecticut to get himself elected as senator, work on his campaign there, and in effect, state that he did not believe in Al Gore.

What a profoundly different Person Al Gore has become since.

My vote?

Al Gore for President in 2008
Howard Dean for Vice President.


.. and when I win the lottery, gonna donate half my money to the city so they have to name a school or a park after me - camper van beethoven
by heyAnita on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 11:45:18 PM EST

Re: Bush Defends Lieberman (none / 0)

If the politician Bush (whose approval only exceeds that of Mark Foley and Dick Cheney combined) wants to heap praise on Liebshen, I say let him.


Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129
by Kobi on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 01:15:59 AM EST

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I. Hate. It. When. People. Write. Like. This. For. Emph. A. Sis.


"And so in the place of the palace of privilege, we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."-FDR
by jallen on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 01:56:56 AM EST

give it up, Matt (none / 0)

Lamont is an amateur ... so is 'Swannie' ... and we're left with that droopy whiner Joe.  I want my money back.  I hope Ned and his nice little family enjoyed their trip to Maine after the primary, while 'people talked to Joe about dropping out.' But of course, Joe's website sucks!  And Gerstein's an asshole!  And Ned gets big crowds (representing one thousandth of one pecent of the votership).  Pathetic.  Get used to six more years of this wretch.


by tuffie on Fri Oct 20, 2006 at 10:28:54 AM EST

Democrat Party vs...? (none / 0)

Publican Party? That was the original riposte from Roosevelt or Truman or whomever it was.

I like Rethuglican Party. That's the name I started to use after the Brooks Brothers riot in 2000 (In fact, I think mine was the first online use of that term, which has caught on). Then there is Repiglican Party. Or just the Repukes.

What about calling them the Halliburton Party? Or the War Party? Or the Torture Party? Or the Dictatorship Party?

For an organization so vile, there are endless possibilities.


by expatjourno on Sat Oct 21, 2006 at 03:29:37 AM EST


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