Lost in Translation

Last month, I wrote a post that detailed just how few mentions in the mainstream media progressive political bloggers were receiving. The results were actually pretty shocking to me, and led me to make public a recommendation I have been privately considering for some time: developing some sort of institution to cross-promote progressive bloggers in the interest of further popularizing the new progressive pundit class. This is not a new idea of mine: I have been privately discussing it, and publicly hinting at it on MyDD, for over half a year now. However, over the past two days, I have developed some concerns about how successful the project would be. Specifically, is it really possible for the progressive blogosphere to reach much of a wider audience than it currently does?

This worry first came to me over the weekend when I was shifting through my email. Every day, in my inbox I receive a number of emails from progressive groups and elected officials summarizing the talking points for the day. 80-90% of the time, I delete these emails without even reading them. The rest of the time, I open the email, glimpse at the talking points, and then delete the email twenty seconds later knowing that I will never use the messaging tips I find.

I can honestly say that I have never, not even once, used the daily talking points any Democratic or progressive group has sent me. One time, I was even invited up to a meeting on Capitol Hill with some of the Democratic leadership as part of a messaging meeting with other "A-list" bloggers. We talked about the message we were supposed to help the leadership disseminate to the rest of the country, but I knew from the very start of the meeting that I just would never use the phrase "Together, America can do better," in my posts on MyDD, except to critique the message with the MyDD community.

I bring this up not to trash the entire notion of talking points, or to trash the national Democratic message. Relating to the former, I actually think talking points have their uses, and relating to the latter, the only major change I would make to the national Democratic slogan for 2006 would be "Together, all Americans can do better," instead of "Together, America can do better." I also do not write this as some form of self-congratulation for never using progressive talking points, or as some form of self-flagellation for not doing a better job of helping to reinforce the national Democratic message. Rather, I wish to discuss it as I think that there is a strong connection between the lack of blogger appearances in the MSM and the general incompatibility of typical messaging mechanisms, such as talking points, with blogging itself.

Simply put, I do not think that the type of messaging that works on radio and works on television does not work on blogs, and vice versa. Consider the case of talking points. Talking points are very useful for campaigns and organizations because they are a means of condensing a message into as short a time period as possible. This is particularly useful in an era when traditional news outlets spend less and less time covering political news, and when the average American spends less and less time thinking about politics. Constant repetition of a short, simple message is one of the last remaining avenues campaigns and organizations have to influence the public at large. It is thus also important for campaigns and organizations to test focus groups for the best possible message, since they have precious few opportunities to waste on ineffective talking points that will quickly vanish into the ether.

By contrast, blogging has absolutely no use for the repetition of talking points. Blogging succeeds largely due to bloggers being perceived as authentic voices that operate outside of existing political institutions. If a blogger were to simply repeat the same words coming out of the mouths of elected officials, no one would bother coming back to that blog. Further, as last year's Blogads readers survey showed, political blogs are read primarily by individuals who consume extraordinarily large amounts of news. People come to blogs because they want to go deep beneath the surface of politics. Thus, there is no need to condense a message for blog readers, because these are people who are willing to spend far more time and energy consuming politics than the average American. Still further, blogging has found a large audience primarily because it is not top-down, but instead is a wide diaspora of diverse voices, each of which are appealing for different reasons. If every blog were to repeat the same talking points, blog readership would dry up considerably, as the resulting lack of diversity would satisfy a much smaller number of people. Yet still further, most "A-list" blogs are extremely information heavy, with tens of thousands of words being written on them every day. A short sentence or two will be easily lost in the ocean of text that is the blogosphere. Online, you have to write a lot in order to be noticed--a couple of sentences based on talking points may work for a short segment on television, but it will quickly become lost in the ocean of text that is the blogosphere.

Of course, this street goes both ways. Blogging is ultimately too information heavy to translate well into those mediums. Among other sources, the Daily Show has parodied just how boring many of the attempted translations of blogging into cable news have been. Is reading aloud from a blog on television either interesting for television views or representative of what is actually going on in the blogosphere? Probably not. The blogosphere cannot be condensed into a medium like television that favors short segments. The structure of messaging on blogs is both different and incompatible with the structure of message on television or radio.

What I believe this means is that even if there is eventually an institution to cross promote bloggers in other medias, the success of bloggers in those medias will probably not have a direct relationship with their success in the blogosphere. Obviously, I would not necessarily have success as a radio commenter just because 20,000 people read MyDD every day. Duncan Black would not necessarily have success as a television commentator just because Eschaton is so wildly popular online. Bloggers have shown a tremendous ability to message for the highly politically active progressive class, an ability that has long since disappeared from the increasingly vacuous MSM. However, the same skills and characteristics that allow us to achieve a large readership among activists would be lost in the translation from blogs to other mediums. This is not to say that some bloggers would not have real cross-media success, but it is to say that even if they do, the way they succeed in other medias will not be the same way they succeed online.

Political blogging will undoubtedly continue to play a critical role in a multi-level progressive message apparatus, as it has proven to be the most successful medium progressives have found for communicating with their activist class in at least a generation. However, the potential of the blogosphere, and of individual bloggers, to become a wider populist phenomenon is probably more limited than I was willing to admit to myself at first. In many ways, we are limited by what makes us successful. On the one hand, our dedication to politics is simply too extreme for it to ever reach a wide audience outside of the activist class, but on the other hand it is exactly what the activist class had been seeking for some time. Considering this, the upward limit of our audience is probably around 6-8 million, which is a good estimate of the upward limit of the size of the progressive activist class. That is around three to four times the size of the current progressive political blogosphere, but still not enough to change conventional wisdom on its own. As Peter Daou famously noted, we will still need to work with, not just in, other institutions in order to achieve that goal.

Then again, 8 million people sounds like a pretty huge audience to me.


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I disagree to a point (none / 0)

...about talking points and blogs. Before I became a regular blog reader blogs I was completely at a loss on how to respond to my right-wing friends when they attacked me. I knew they were wrong, but I couldn't find words to say it, Howard Dean and blogs helped focus me so am far far better at smacking down obvious wingnuttia and I am also far far better at reading between the lines when it comes to news and political statements.

Of course, they also provided ways for me to learn indepth WHY so many of moves of the Bush administration were wrong due to facts. Which is something talking points don't do.

by MNPundit on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 11:29:58 PM EST

Re: I disagree to a point (3.00 / 1)

"Talking points" is a value-loaded term. I very much doubt your engagement with friends came from downloading a five-bullet list; rather I imagine you got your information in a much larger context.

Facts (and factoids) are important for us, but even more important, I think, is context. We'll be debating the "fact" of whether Bush manipulated intelligence in a specific instance. But when providing the context for that statement you get the larger issue.

To put it forcefully: the right-left battle at this point is not a battle of ideas. It's a battle between reflexive and analytical behavior.

by sdedeo on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:51:39 AM EST
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using what we've got (none / 0)

Do what you can with what you've got.

That's a lesson that most people without financial difficulties often forget.

Instead of spending more time and energy creating more stuff we need to present what we have in a better way.

My concept was to take the feeds from the top blogs and combine them into one web site where people can find the latest progressive views on healthcare, education, World News etc.  So far I have been succesful in this attempt and people seem to like it.

I am reaching a larger audience and helping the bloggers I've linked to reach a larger audience.  We can't force someone to change their mind but we can force our news in front of their faces for a few seconds by creating new portals from our exisiting content.

These portals can then grow in their own directions to reach a target group as well as a general audience.

I appreciate the emails being sent out by the campaigns.  For the most part they have been action oriented.  It makes me feel included in the process...which is empowering.

Talking points were good for critiquing, but by the time the critiques were aired it was already too late as Kerry had already committed to a Top Down DLC Run Campaign.

What I would really like is if someone took the time to create a list of ALL existing powerful progressive voices. Perhaps we can introduce the editors of some of the worlds largest publications to some of America's best minds.  
 

DAGGER
by goplies on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 11:37:07 PM EST

Talking points and Media appearances (none / 0)

Talking points have their usefulness. I don't think they should be repeated reflexively, but I do feel that they are a huge part of creating the "unified message" that conservatives have become so good at presenting.

As for media appearances -- it's always seemed to me that one of the biggest reasons why liberals are failing in the "marketplace of ideas" is because they're not willing to go on TV and give people their ideas. TV is the most ubiquitous of info mediums -- why are so many of our guys afraid to use it?

A broad cross-section of conservative politicians, pundits, radio hosts, and bloggers seem willing to jump in front of a camera at the drop of a hat. Conversely, you can't seem to get a proportionate amount of liberals on TV. I've never seen Markos, you (Chris), Jerome, Armando, Aravosis, Gilliard, etc. in front of a camera at all (correct me if any of you guys have gone on camera). And it seems the only Democratic politicians willing to go on the air are the same "moderates" those of us in the netroots can't stand.

Why? I'm not sure. Perhaps modern liberals -- particularly bloggers -- are closeted, introverted types that don't like the glare of TV lights. Perhaps they're disaffected with the system and reject it all together. Or perhaps they're over-thinking things, as I think liberals tend to do, and aren't exactly sure how to approach the medium, so they're holding off until they figure it out. Or maybe you guys just don't want to become media figures.

I don't know.

But maybe guys like Markos and yourself should just go on TV and give it a try. I don't think you guys will do any worse than most of the left-of-center faces we see on TV today, and you'll have put the ideas of the Left out there for millions who otherwise might not hear it.

TAKE BACK OUR PARTY: Democracy Bonds
by LiberalFromPA on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:06:32 AM EST

sidepoint (none / 0)

I wrote up the wikipedia coverage of the media's examination of MSHA. The most standout thing I noticed was that the New York Times editorial got its facts wrong -- it asserted that mine safety was the responsibility of the Dept of Interior, when it was actually the Dept of Labor and has been since 1978.

This was at least a day after the blogs had started examining MSHA and getting on the ball and examining the Dept of Labor. So the New York Times doesn't yet do the simplest of technorati (hell, google) searches.

Reading the responses of people here, it seems like the local press is using blogs and taking advantage of bloggers, even if they don't credit them.

But the national press doesn't seem to care as much. My impression is that blogs for the national press are a fun thing to do articles on occasionally (viz. the recent review of Wonkette's novel), but they really do seem too snobby to read "us".

BTW, I think this reenforces a larger point: progressives are going to have the greatest gains working on the small scale. Talking and scheming about Joe Lieberman is fine, and I've learned a lot about it here on myDD, but it seems like the most impact per hour comes from dealing with issues that make the front page of the 10,000 circulation dailies.

by sdedeo on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:47:11 AM EST

The Democratic Party Has It Backwards (none / 0)

We talked about the message we were supposed to help the leadership disseminate to the rest of the country, but I knew from the very start of the meeting that I just would never use the phrase "Together, America can do better," in my posts on MyDD, except to critique the message with the MyDD community.

Dennis Hastert does not dream up RWNM talking points. Bill O'Reilly is not capable of framing. The talking points are developed and tested in focus groups. As Matt pointed out earlier today they quite openly and publicly disseminate their talking points to their base.

Then their base hears the same message repeated over and over again on talk radio and Faux News and by Chris Matthews. By the time GOP politicians repeat a talking point, their base has already heard it a dozen times from several sources.

Politicians are too stupid to frame an issue. I don't know why Democratic politicians even try. They are absolutely horrible at it. The only frames Democrats use successfully are the GOP talking points Lieberman and DLC Democrats use against progressives.

I can find a half dozen excellent frames every day of the week on the left wing blogosphere. Until the Democratic leadership is ready to start acting like an opposition party it doesn't matter anyway.  The only frames that are effective and memorable are boldly shrill The real problem is that the Democratic Party refuses to use the frames available to them.

by Gary Boatwright on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:54:44 AM EST

Re: The Democratic Party Has It Backwards (none / 0)

This is also why the R blogs get into the MSM more, they just disseminate the talking points and hearing the same message over and over again pounds it into the press.

Now do the dem blogs want to do this and lose all the benefits of what we've now?  I would hope not, but maybe there is some way to have a hybrid.

Keep having the substanative policy discussions, but also provide the simple talking points that the MSM can pick up and readers can disseminate to others.

http://www.johnedwards.com/nh
by epv72 on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 11:25:40 AM EST
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A Few Points (none / 0)

Chris:

First of all I reminded of the West Wing espiode "Game On" where Bartlet defeats Ritchie in the debates.  One of the main points is the "ten word answer", but what aboutt he next ten words.  The talking points seem to always drown out the next ten words and at that the next ten words after that.

That being said, of course the blogosphere can reach more people.  Everyday, when I talk to people about blogging and bloggers and the blogosphere I have to start from the very beginning.  It is very rare that I actually get people who have any semblence of knowledge pertaining to what a blog is and consequently what it can do.  

Blogging provides people with the chance to take everything to another level.  What we need to focus on is not how to make blogging more compatiable with the modes that the MSM has hold of, but what will happen to blogging with increased access to handheld internet devices.  As it becomes easier to access and interact in the blogosphere from everywhere, it could become an increasingly important aspect to everyones day.  

Mark
by Mark J. Bowers on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:56:40 AM EST

also -- the "A list" (3.00 / 3)

I get a little nervous when I hear about the A list. My feeling is that someone like (is his name) Duncan Black, the guy who runs Atrios, is a great guy, but that his main function is to point people to the work of "Z list" bloggers. One thing that I think should be resisted is the idea of a blog hierarchy.

To put it another way: the more people blog, the better we do. It is not a signal-to-noise kind of thing, it really is (ideally) all signal. Not that anybody has suggested otherwise here.

While I understand the media wants to be able to say "top blogger" or "A list blogger" etc, we should resist that. We should be encouraging people to start blogs, to write blogs. When people talk, we win.

People sitting down and critically analysing politics -- and even people sitting down writing right-wing crap -- help us. They force others to consider points of view, they encourage others towards critical thinking.

also the internet will cure cancer

by sdedeo on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:07:31 AM EST

Context Is Everything! (none / 0)

The blogosphere is about context. Webs upon webs within webs of context. This is a totally different kind of discourse than you find on tv.  It will not translate directly to tv, but it will, in time, transform tv, if we succeed in realizing the potential here.  And tv will operate within the context that we help create.

When we have 8 million people online raising a storm of protest every time a thrice-discredited talking point is reiterated in tones of Charleston Heston-As-Moses, tv will change.  It will never be what the blogosphere is, but it can become a very valuable portal to the blogosphere, and it can be a much better medium in and of itself than it is today.

by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:42:16 AM EST

Give US the tools (3.00 / 1)

I'm not saying some sort of PR "institution" is a bad idea, but, back in the day, when someone wrote a really shitty article about Dr. Dean we not only heard about it, but we were given the e-mail address or phone number of the person who wrote the article.
These days you see a really shitty article and only occasionally does the blog give the critical contact information.  Over at dailykos you might have a message string of 300 responses, but unless a couple of dozen of those people actually sent their opinion to the source of the shitty article, it's just wanking.
by ChgoSteve on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:53:07 AM EST

Re: Give US the tools (none / 0)

Yes -- the blogosphere needs to be put to work.

I am interested in this discussion because, in a way, I am conducting a bit of an experiment that relates to this thread. Now that I have written a political blog for nearly a year and begun to find my own focus a lttle more, I'm trying to drum up some traffic. This effort has two parts: 1) I try to be a good citizen of the sphere, reading others' stuff and commenting, not only at obviously good places like here, but also in out of the way corners; 2) I am experimenting with pointing out pieces I write to my computer saavy but non-blogging friends.

The former approach is the easy way. In theory, the latter should increase our usefulness to the progressive movement more by making us larger. But it is a lot more work and lower initial return. I know a lot of genuinely activist people who do not find this arena friendly or helpful; I want to know more about why. I want to know whether I think that matters.

Can It Happen Here?
by janinsanfran on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 03:37:16 PM EST
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Re: Give US the tools (none / 0)

I think it takes loudmouths to spread the word.  The Christian right has plenty, so I'm not the least bit ashamed to be a progressive loudmouth.

I do daily summaries of hot blog issues and send them to all my friends and family members.  A couple of years ago a cousin said that he deleted most of my e-mails without reading them.  My reaction was to remove him from my mailing list.  The more I thought about it, though, the more I realized that if he found my messages annoying, then stopping the messages was giving him just what he wanted.
I added him back to the mailing list and told him that I wouldn't play a part in his remaining wilfully ignorant.  I think it's worked-- he's substantially less a Republican than he was back then.

Nice blog by the way, Jan.  Very visually appealing.

by ChgoSteve on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 07:12:13 PM EST
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Democrats and response (3.00 / 2)

I know limited resources affect things at the state party levels, but how many times does the following happen?

  1. Republicans do something incredibly mean-spirited, stupid or both.

  2. Some segment of the SCLM catches them, but the story doesn't reach all outlets.

  3. Some bloggers on the left try to move the story more broadly into the SCLM

  4. The party does little or nothing to advance the story

  5. The story dies

Until the Democratic Party musters the resources and will to react quickly and provide the left blogosphere with the kind of built-in support that the right has, we're fighting with one hand tied behind our back.
by jondevore on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 01:59:57 AM EST

I really like your idea; however, (none / 0)

I believe the relative amount of success you'll have will depend entirely upon whether you're talking about an institution to promote the ideas and works of truly progressive bloggers or just another echo chamber to support the agenda of the day of the Democratic Party. In the case of the latter, you'll risk getting lost in another layer of partisan rhetoric.

If on the other hand you mean to found an institution which supports bloggers attempting to inject badly needed progressive changes, reforms and policy alternatives into that which is already pre-existing in the current blogshere, I believe you'll find a receptive audience. For example, much of the best progressive work currently being done in the policy, scientific and economic communities is lost in the blogsphere because the message doesn't necessarily easily translate or simply doesn't support conventional partisan wisdom which is routinely tossed around in the existing blogsphere.

If I'm reading you correctly, I think there's currently a vacuum for an institution such as the one you describe devoted to promoting bloggers and ideas on the cutting edge of progressivism which really exists above the purely partisan fray. Demand for an institution which leads the blogsphere in progressive thought as opposed to just another one having the dog wagged by its tail should always remain constant. It sounds as if you're already thinking outside of the box. Best of luck if you decide to test the waters.      

by Seldom Seen Smith on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 02:37:07 AM EST

You're missing the impact of the local blogs (3.00 / 5)

Perhaps WA state is weird, but I think you are missing the impact of the local blogs on the local media.  I just did a Google News search and found four hits from my blog, "HorsesAss".  Searching my name, "David Goldstein blogger" found two more hits from newspapers who mentioned me, but didn't mention my blog by name.  If I had searched the month prior to the November election, I would have found a helluva lot more hits... but my six total at the moment puts me in some pretty ritzy company as compiled on your previous post.

Here in WA, I think it is safe to say that 2005 was the first year in which bloggers actually influenced the outcome of an election... and while we are not always given credit for it, we are constantly moving headlines and influencing opinion makers.

And while we all want credit for our impact, the impact is the goal, not the credit.  For example, when I broke the story about FEMA's Mike Brown and the Horse Association, it saturated the headlines, but there was almost zero mention that the story initially came from a blogger (first at HorsesAss, and more effectively, through my diary on DailyKos.)  Indeed it wasn't until Brown blamed my blog by name during his congressional testimony that my local MSM realized (or acknowledged) my blog's role in bringing down Brown.

I get a couple thousand readers a day -- not bad for a blog that mostly covers state and local politics -- but my target audience has always been the few dozen journalists who read HA on a daily basis.  The fact that some refuse to mention my blog as a source, or refuse to mention its name when they do, does not lessen its impact.  And there are at least a half dozen other WA progressive blogs that also regularly influence the MSM.

So all that said... yes... I believe there is a need for an institution to cross-promote progressive bloggers.  We're trying to do that on our own in WA state, but we get very little cooperation nationally.  To your credit, MyDD links to HorsesAss as the WA entry under state analysis.  And Jesus' General graciously promotes his fellow WA bloggers.  But getting a link out of Kos or most of the other influential national bloggers is like pulling teeth.  For example, on the Mike Brown story, when Kos wrote up the story on the front page, pointing to my diary, he could have included a link to the cross-post on HorsesAss... but he didn't.  Meanwhile, the big right-wing blog in WA state is constantly getting plugs from Malkin and Instapundit and Little Green Footballs and the like.  If you wonder why progressives have come to dominate the national blogosphere, yet still lag behind the right locally, well... the lack of support we get nationally is certainly part of the problem.

Anyway, thanks for raising this issue and starting the discussion.  I've convinced that we're making a much larger impact than the MSM gives us credit for, and that anything we can do to promote each other will pay benefits in the long run.

David "Goldy" Goldstein
HorsesAss.org

HorsesAss.org "Politics as unusual"
by Goldy on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 03:29:41 AM EST

Re: You're missing the impact of the local blogs (3.00 / 2)

Agreed. On the statewide blog I write for, some stuff has made it into the major dailies - some accredited, some not. The more focused a blog (either on one issue, one race, one region), the more likely that reporters will put it on their "must read" list, or at least stumble across it when reporting a specific story. But that's a long organic process, and mostly luck is involved. It would be good to have the tools to more directly tip a reporter with a story. That's one way in which the blogosphere can interact with the traditional media - we can find and research stories that others are ignoring. The missing piece is how to gain the attention of those that drive the mainstream coverage.
by lpackard on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 12:48:45 PM EST
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Exactly-Who cares if the blogger gets credit? (none / 0)

The point is to make the Republican in question look bad or the Dem look good.  The rest is just gravy.  I think reporters lift things from Daily Kos, for instance, more or less verbatim without giving credit (which, judging from Kos's "steal whatever" copyright line, he couldn't care less).
by Geotpf on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 06:43:14 PM EST
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Re: Exactly-Who cares if the blogger gets credit? (none / 0)

Well, as I said, the goal is to make an impact, not necessarily to get credit for it.  Indeed, sometimes an attribution to a blog will lessen the impact.

But that said, this is a game of perception, and reporters pay closer attention to those blogs they perceive to be the most influential. Modesty generates neither traffic nor headlines.

HorsesAss.org "Politics as unusual"
by Goldy on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 11:59:45 PM EST
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Some positive demographic trends (none / 0)

  1. Younger generations are more computer savvy
  2. Younger generations are becoming more liberal (at least according to Pew)
  3. Younger generations are more well educated (this is controversial however, especially since the introduction of standardized testing which threatens to kill all real learning)

The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 04:52:01 AM EST

New Major Media Needed (3.00 / 2)

I generally agree with Gary Boatright.

There has to be better work from the Democrats, especially between elections and especially in what you could call long-term meme development and dispersal. For example, everyone in the US has heard of the "death tax" and "double taxation" and "families losing their farms" by now. It's bogus, but it takes awahile to explain that, and by now  the Republicans always start off with an easy advantage on that issue. But that's because they've been working for ten or twenty years to get to where they are.

I tend to agree that blogs are already doing as much as they can do. However, one thing that I've thought would be worthwhile would be a daily blog tabloid, which would excerpt the day's best stuff in a form which could be easily printed, using standard software at many different locations.

My late mother, for example, at age 87 was not going to get in the surfing habit, but she was always happy to read printouts I gave her. Printouts could also be dispersed in various locations like lunchrooms and waiting rooms where people might happen on them.

Ultimately, though, it can't be done by self-funding hobbyists.  Entirely new national mainstream media are needed: TV, cable, satellite, radio. Air American was only a small start, though a good one.

That's really doable, but it will take lots of money, and liberal money people are apparently timid and stingy and would rather give half a billion dollars every four years to existing media -- even though all we can ultimately expect from the existing media is to be stabbed in the back and flooded with Republican-slanted drivel.

In the past, my suggestions of this type have roused little or no enthusiasm, and a depressing amount of defeatist negativity. (The amount of liberal/ Democratic badmouthing Air America got really depressed me.) You can't win if you don't play, and sometimes I wonder whether Democrats want to play.

by John Emerson on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 07:38:41 AM EST

The real problem is not 'blogs,' per se, but... (none / 0)

reciprocity.

Let me repeat that:  reciprocity.  

To understand what I'm saying, we need to read Chris' post not for his explaination of why talking points dont' work on blogs, but as a testimony to his experience when called by the leadership to Washington.

What strikes me is the complete lack of return value that he finds for himself (and I suspect many of us would be the same) in that meeting.    

In other words, it's not the talking points, but the top down model that is the problem.

There is a contradiction at the heart of the Democratic party that Chris' post brings to the fore, and if we do not see that thish contradiction exists, then we are going to be in big trouble--we will be at the mercy of outside forces in our attempts to take back government.

That contradiction is a party that believes itself to be a party of the people, but which is 100% controlled by people dedicated to a top-down style of rule.

For talking points to be distributed and used across the blogsphere, Chris needed to be called to Washington for a meeting about what bloggers, organizers and elected officials wanted and needed from a meeting about talking points.  If such a meeting happened, Chris could have informed the leadership that in order to use talking points, bloggers would need to be a part of the discussion about what went  into that actual talking points.  If that initial meeting (or series of meetings) had happened, then the Chris would feel that he was getting something out of the talking points--would feel in fact that other people's ability to use the talking points would depend on his initial contribution to their development.  

Folks, this is not rocket science. It's leadership 101.

So what needs to be done about this?

We are not going to change the leadership style of the Democratic Party.  That is a pipe dream.  Anyone who is thinking that we can, well, give me a call:  I have a nice bridge I'd like to sell you (special price).

What needs to happen is that a new leadership style and structure must emerge, challenge the old, and succeed.  

To make this happen, we need more than Howard Dean at the DNC.  We can't do it with just a single charismatic leader.  We need all the elements that make party politics and leadership succeed:  ideas, people, organization, money.

We have ideas, albeit scattered.  

We have people, more than enough.

We are not organized the right way.  We are fractured along the lines that Daou describes (media, elected officials, blogs) and need to be organized in such away that intergrates all three.

We do not have money.  We are resisting this idea.

To solve this problem, I suggest that we do the following:

  1. Capitalize: Until a liberal blog has some financial power to back up its intellectual and activist ideas, all liberal blogs will be outside the political system waiting for a call from Washington.  Blogs with weekly readerships in the millions (dKos, Raw Story, etc.) have the power to capitalize, thereby creating financial resoruces that can be used to advance social goals.  Many bloggers react to this initial financial suggestion as if they had just been told to murder their own parents (!).  Let them.
  2. Institutionalize: With the money raised through capitalization, we should establish an institution.  Not a 'think tank,' but a major policy institute that has the goal of producing the ideas and actions that will restore a new form of progressive/liberal government to America.  This institutte must be established in Washington, DC.  And it must be professional (e.g., not run by college freshman volunteers).  Somebody who knows how to establish such an institution should generate a budget (top priority), form a steering committee that in turn will give way to a Board of Directors, and establish a Press Office. This will be the institution that initiates, hosts, and executes the types of 'talking point' activities currently lacking in the Democratic Party.
  3. Mobilize:  Once money has been raised and an institution has been established, then the next step is to get it up and running. Kickoff would be a large national conference that initiates regular meetings in Washington from which every participant contributes what they can (not money, but ideas) and takes away what they need (see above).

Out with the old, in with the new.  

The revolution, other words, is not something we will be invited to--for if we are, why should we believe in it?   The revolution is something we must plan and host.

And we are back to 'reciprocity' because if we follow this plan, then the invitation will not come from leadership in Washington, but from the institute we created.  And we would not just show up because we were invited, but because we had already contributed and knew what we were going to get.  Such a meeting would be exactly what we wanted, and the 'talking points'--if that was even what we called them--would not be something we needed to accept or reject.  They would already be ours, and so our response would be:  Of course we will use these phrases in our writing;  we already are!

It can work.

by Jeffrey Feldman on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 08:48:56 AM EST

Broader audiences vs the internet (none / 0)

One of the big things people overlook about the internet is that it is a major part of the efforts of many people to narrow the media they pay attention to.

Just as cable news allowed wingers to drool over Fox, the blogs have only taken this one step further.

To be blunt, I question the ability of any blog to ever reach what would be termed a wider audience in the sense that television advertisers talk about it.

It would take a group of bloggers with an absurd sensetivity to broader mainstream audience.

Even then, you have to wonder, because in general, people come looking for blogs to reinforce and further assert their existing views.

The major of people simply don't want their world view interrupted.

The most successful blogs, so far, have largely catered to this attitude.  Whether you're looking at DailyKos or the Free Republic or BullMoseBlog, you're looking at very similar motivations for visiting in the first place.

A side note:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=conservative+blog&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web -t&fl=1&vl=lang_en&x=wrt&meta=vl%3Dlang_en

MyDD produces the #10 result for the search term "conservative blog".  Just something to ponder.

Maybe someday someone will start considering the guerilla marketing that is waiting to happen with more abusive use of SEO by political blogs.

by jcjcjc on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 09:49:03 AM EST

Cross-promote in the book industry (none / 0)

While I agree that blog content is not well suited to radio and TV (and vice versa), blog content is very well suited to book publishing, as Jerome and Markos are about to find out.

I think we could use a lot more bloggers-as-book-writers, and I think a lot of bloggers would make great book writers.  Books are not only a great way to raise money for the blogosphere; as David Brock points out in the Right Wing Noise Machine, they are also a great way to spread one's ideology, since they can examine a major social issue from a particular angle in a complex way.

by myddaholic on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 10:14:14 AM EST

Distribution and archiving (none / 0)

Measuring traffic to specific sites is, perhaps, the wrong metric. The power of the blogosphere is more like that of a chain letter. When one person reads something they forward it.

Online the mechanism is different, one either posts a link to the story or copies part of it into the new entry. Some of the former can be tracked, but not the latter. So the more sites that are active, the higher the chances that a given story will be passed on. I've seen this with my series of tips for photographers, references to them show up in the most unlikely settings.

Currently, blogs have no good mechanism for archiving. Certain issues remain topical for a long time and the current-events oriented FIFO format isn't really suitable. So if information that is gathered is to remain useful there needs to be a way to find it and refer back to it. Current efforts, like tagging articles, will prove to be inadequate.

As to the lack of "resonance" in the major media outlets, this is to be expected. One, blogs are now seen as competition. Two, the major media is part of corporate America and doesn't see any reason to give a platform to its critics. The same is true of both political parties. They are enmeshed in the corporate world as a source of election funds and as place for employment for themselves and/or their staff and key supporters.

The blogosphere will have to create its own dynamic, if it fills a niche it will prosper.

---Policies not Politics
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by rdf on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 10:54:54 AM EST


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