The Real Fighting Dems

Cross-posted at DailyKos

We have heard a lot about Fighting Dems from the DCCC this year.  I think their use of the term "Fighting Dem" is misguided.  They are trying to portray their 2006 slate as Fighting Dems because of their status as veterans.


Image hosted by Photobucket.com      Jerry McNerney with Mike

Don't get me wrong, I respect the service of these veterans. My son, Mike, currently serves as an officer in the armed forces and I am damn proud of his service to this country. Furthermore, I am committed to supporting the men and women currently serving and our veterans at home. I know personally how dedicated these folks are to their country.

But Rahm Emanuel's main selection criterion seems to be military experience in general. In my opinion, that simply isn't enough grounds to back a candidate.

In fact, I have another interpretation of what it means to be a Fighting Dem. The real fighters are those who stand and fight for Democratic principles. Who are not afraid to fight for what's right. Who don't take on Republican talking points and use them against other Democrats.

And we have candidates like this already running that the DCCC could have supported, or at least not actively worked against. 2004 Democratic congressional candidates like me and Christine Cegelis--who stood up and fought in districts the shortsighted folks at the DCCC thought were unwinnable--are the true Fighting Dems.

In my 2004 race as a primary write-in candidate, I got on the November ballot to fight for what's right. To fight against Congressman Richard Pombo, a politician whose actions represent everything that is wrong in Washington. Even with no official national Democratic support and a campaign driven by committed local Democratic activists, I achieved the highest vote total ever against Pombo.

In 2006, I am still proud to have the support of both the local Democratic activist community and organized labor, as they share my commitment to restoring American's future.

This time, though, I have a primary race against a DCCC/DLC-backed candidate who is a veteran and who is under the misguided impression that in order to beat Pombo, one simply needs to raise more money than him. Make no mistake, I will raise the money to be competitive with Pombo. But to beat a long-term incumbent, I also know I need to reach out personally to the voters.

So I'm reaching out to you today to ask you to support the real Fighting Dems--to stand with me and fight for true Democratic ideals. I encourage you to go to my website and read my blog. I will be updating it weekly and also plan to live blog periodically.


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Best of luck Jerry (3.00 / 2)

Your diary and sentiments are right on target. It is unfortunate that Rahm, the DCCC and the DLC are more determined to fight progressive Democrats than they are to fight Bush and the GOP.
by Gary Boatwright on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 09:10:03 PM EST

Good diary, thanks for showing up here.... (3.00 / 2)

For myself, I'd emphasize that ANY Democrat who fights for our values is a fighting democrat.

It's an "us" thing.  To qualify you need two things.  Fight, and Democratic values.  Period.

Imo, we need every "fighting Dem" we can get...including some who have, and some who haven't, served in the military.  Anything else is lunacy.

Fwiw, I added my small push to the phrase with a piece called to be a fighting Democrat in November of 2004.  I used the phrase to refer to party reform and pragmatic coalition building...of the difference between cautious "phone it in" Dems and those who are willing to speak our values.  In this, I agree with the point of this article: a fighting dem is someone who fights for our values, our people.  

Of course, there's somebody who put it a lot better than I did:

Ours is the party of the man who was nominated by those distant conventions and who inspired and restored this nation in its darkest hours, Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Ours is the party of a fighting Democrat who showed us that a common man could be an uncommon leader, Harry S. Truman.

Ours is the party of a brave young President who called
the young at heart, regardless of age, to seek a New Frontier, of national greatness, John F. Kennedy.

And ours is also the party of a great-hearted Texan who
took office in a tragic hour and who went on to do more
than any other President in this century to advance the
cause of human rights, Lyndon Johnson.

Our Party was built out of the sweatshops of the old Lower East Side, the dark mills of New Hampshire, the blazing hearths of Illinois, the coal mines of Pennsylvania, the hard-scrabble farms of the southern coastal plains, and the unlimited frontiers of America.

Ours is the party that welcomed generations of immigrants, the Jews, the Irish, the Italians, the Poles, and all the others, enlisted them in its ranks and fought the political battles that helped bring them into the American mainstream. And they have shaped the character of our party.

That is our heritage. Our party has not been perfect. We
have made mistakes, and we have paid for them. But ours
is a tradition of leadership and compassion and progress.

Our leaders have fought for every piece of progressive
legislation, from RFD and REA to Social Security and civil
rights. In times of need, the Democrats were there.

That's an underappreciated speech, if you ask me.

k/o: politics and local blogs
by kid oakland on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 11:16:57 PM EST

Re: Good diary, thanks for showing up here.... (3.00 / 1)

K/O,

I just reread your diary "To Be a Fighting Democrat" for the first time since it was on the Recommend List on Daily Kos.  Rereading it made me remember why I thought the idea of Fighting Democrats was so compelling in the first place.  

Of course, now the phrase has been given the conceptual equivalent of a "gut and amend" by the DCCC, helped along by Kos of all people.  (The most interesting side of this story is how Kos has found himself perpetuating a DLC-backed stratagem, despite his strong opposition to the group).  

I'm particularly struck by the irony of the DCCC's interpretation of Fighting Dem as former soldier given the following part of your post:

And, I think, we need to be the party that incorporates some form of "national service" into the educational program of the United States, whether voluntary or not....we Democrats need to win back the mantle of patriotism with a proposal for national service that works...bringing equity to military service and broadening, once and for all, the concept of "service to country" beyond the act of taking up a gun to defend it.

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by Matt Lockshin on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 01:28:04 AM EST
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should have hit 'submit' (3.00 / 1)

Thank you for this post!  I was about to write a similar one (albeit a bit more angry) and all this "Fighting Dems" crap.  

It just seems like if you are in the military and are running with a D next to your name that you are entitled to the job.  That's total BS!

Give me a principled Democrat who stands up for their convictions and party principles over some ex-military soon-to-be political hack and (dare I say it?) FLIP-FLOPPER!  

I'll support you McNerney and I can probably convince some Stonewall Democratic Clubs in CA to do so as well if you haven't already.

by dayspring on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 11:43:17 PM EST

Re: "Fighting Dems" crap (3.00 / 1)

Well said. And props to Jerry McNerney for this bold stand suporting our values.

The people can't begin to take the country back until we take our PARTY back from the out-of-touch Washington strategists that made us a minority in the first place.

The Fighting Dems framing backlash is growing as concerned progressives continue to step up saying no more:

Fighting Dems?

No More Fighting Dems

On "fighting Dems"; or why it's not about whether you wore the uniform

No Dem Left Behind: The Fighting Dems Fatal Flaw

In my own district, we're seeing bad idea imports like Tim Dunn of Air America infamy ("I literally was on my knees praying that we'd find weapons of Mass Destruction" ...WTF!?!) being sent packing both locally and nationally by Democrats that aren't buying the Republican light framing...

Fighting Dem? Not if you're a woman
Meet Tim Dunn. NC-08. (map) He's a Democrat. He's anti-choice and he's against gay marriage. If you live in North Carolina don't vote for this guy.

You can donate to Tim at this Act Blue site page, Pro-Life Democrats (new list for 2006 races). But why would you want to? This also begs the question. How is supporting anti-reproductive freedoms acting blue? Wouldn't that fall under the heading of Acting Red?

If you have some time to kill, go googling: "Tim Dunn" pro-life and read what some are saying about Tim Dunn.

My personal pledge is, I don't vote for any anti-choice candidate regardless of party and I do what I can to make sure they aren't elected. I urge all of you to take the pledge with me.


With CAFTA being the issue in NC, our grassroots drafted a textile veteran for our district 8 primary. Pro-war, pro-life Dunn can just go back to the 7th district now.

Keep up the good work fighting for our values on your end Jerry!
by RANT on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 07:10:32 AM EST
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Re: "Fighting Dems" crap (none / 0)

Alrighty, well I think first off you should start a nice petition in a state that hasn't voted Republican since 1972. There in Minnesota you can meet Colin Peterson, who is pro-life. There start a petition and cause a primary for someone who is more progressive and have them up in the general in the district that went 58% to Bush, and see how they do. Heck, why don't you go to the Democratic-leaning MN-08 held by Oberstar.. he's pretty progressive, but pro-life. Don't you want to kill him now?

Or Casey in Pennsylvania, shut him out and let Rick Santorum and his man-on-dog sex shit reign free. Make sure to kill Casey too.

Get rid of Harry Reid too!

Why don't you just go around with a gun, ask people whether or not they're pro-choice or pro-life or not, and shoot them if they're not pro-choice! Maybe that would appease your thirst for more ideological purity.

One thing's for certain though, is that you oppose any sort of idea of a "big-tent Democratic Party", which, regardless of what you think or feel about it, is vital for our successes in Congressional and Presidential elections. So continue your crusade against viable candidates, too bad it really won't do much.

by KainIIIC on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 02:37:02 PM EST
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Re: "Fighting Dems" crap (3.00 / 3)

You seem to be missing something: pro-choice is the "big tent" position. It's the anti-choice, pro-criminalization crowd who are intolerant of other views to the point they want the government to impose their will on everyone else.

The way you repeat the sell-out talking points like "ideological purity," it seems that values and principles have no truck with you. I suppose you'd support a Klansman as long as you think he could get votes. The rights of women to control their own bodies? To you that's "purity." To me, it's fundamental human rights.

Oh, and you might want to learn a little history. PA, for example, is not so clearly an anti-choice state, as you assert.

If you support "pro-life" views, then go ahead and vote for a "pro-life" candidate. But don't expect everyone else to just hold their noses and vote the way you want. If you want support from the Democratic base, then you appeal to Democratic values.

And tell the right wing all your crap about "big tents" and "ideological purity."

Scolding potential coalition partners in the name of coalition building is just dumb.

And it's perhaps unnecessary, as already polls are showing a huge preference among voters for a Democratic Congress. Maybe pandering to right-wing values is too clever by half.

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by media girl on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 02:56:22 PM EST
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Re: "Fighting Dems" crap (none / 0)

Everyone, everyone, let's not be so angry about all of this.

Media girl, in all fairness, this sub-thread began with someone saying Tim Dunn is completely unacceptable as a candidate becaues of a pro-life stance, so if anyone is trying to push people out of a coalition it is that orginal post.

Obviously the Democrats of N.C. 08 should allowd to settle this issue own their own in their primary, but if Tim Dunn wins, the question that must be asked is "can a Democrat be better than a Republican even if they are pro-life?"  And I tend to answer that question with an affirmative.  There are a bunch of issues that the Republicans have completely wrong that need to fixed, such as ethics and accounatibility, the deficeit and education.

And quite frankly since abortion right are almost completely up the courts, and only the Senate deals with confirmation of the judiciary, I don't believe a house election is a place that forces us to push a pro-choice line.

All I care about out of N.C. 08 is that a good election is ran, because I believe that is definatly a seat the party can pick up.  Whoever wins the Dem primary has my full support.

by give em hell Huddleston on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 10:43:05 PM EST
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your answer (none / 0)

"can a Democrat be better than a Republican even if they are pro-life?"

of course they can.  with democratic leadership, bills to ban abortion won't see the light of day.  anti-abortion dems also won't vote for people like janice rogers brown to be confirmed on the federal courts.  see the NARAL/chafee flap for a prime example of this.

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by annatopia on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 11:46:00 PM EST
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look folks.... (3.00 / 1)

...those of us pushing the "fighting dems" meme from the grassroots are in agreement with this post.  while the moniker originally was coined to encompass candidates who wore the uniform, it certainly includes dems who stand up and fight for democratic principals.

and while rahm co-opted our term (yes, this originated in the grassroots not the Dccc), our intent was never to dis-include anyone who stands up and fights.  i hope that clears up any misconceptions yall might have.

also, i am just getting around to catching up after coming back from vacation... any significant mydd posts that i missed in the past three weeks?

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by annatopia on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 12:52:25 PM EST

Re: look folks.... (3.00 / 3)

Anna,

Part of the problem is that I don't remember the genesis of the term "Fighting Dem" in the way you remember it.  For me, it was always tied with Kid Oakland's diary until the DCCC stepped in after the Hackett race and changed the meaning.  That is, it started being a term to describe something much more complicated than "Democratic veteran."

I can believe and accept that you first encountered the term as a phrase to "encompass candidate who wore the uniform."  Furthermore, I'm ready to concede that as a matter of pure historical fact it might have begun that way.

But my experience does not line up with yours, and so I view the DCCC's use of Fighting Dem as pure cooptation.  Thus, I respond to seeing certain candidates (i.e. the ones who I have no reason to believe will actually fight for Democratic principles) termed Fighting Dems ONLY BECAUSE of their veteran status, in two ways.  

First I have a response to the substantive underlying implications of the DCCC's use of the term.  In other words, I respond to what I take the DCCC to mean by the term "Fighting Dem."  This response would be no different if the DCCC had instead called the group "Democratic Vets" "Macho Dems" or what have you.  

But in addition, I respond to the fact that, in my view, the DCCC has undercut a concept I really had an affinity for.  The concept of Fighting Dems as it came out of Kid Oakland's diary was very much in line with what a lot of us in the grassroots have been yearning for.  So when the DCCC takes that term and redefines it in a way that is, in my view, less clear, less useful, etc. I get angry.  

And let us remember that there was a lot of enthusiasm generated for the Democrats who were pugnacious in their defense of Democratic principles.  But somehow, through marketing and rhetoric, there was an effort to redirect that enthusiasm to Democratic veterans who may or may not be pugnacious in their defense of Democratic principles.

Of course, to the extent that a given Democratic vet is going to fight for Democratic principles, he is a Fighting Dem in both meaning of the term.  And in my view, as long as he really does fight for Democratic principles, he deserves all of the enthusiasm coming his way.  For example, I am very impressed with Lt. Colonel Charles Brown in CA-04, and think he is very worthy of netroots enthusiasm and support.

But the flip side of the coin is that there are Democratic candidates who are running in contested primaries in which a Democratic veteran is rather less committed to fighting for Democratic principles than the other Democrat or Democrats in the race.  And I bet that those of us who react most strongly to the DCCC Fighting Dem marketing strategy are those who are paying attention to these type of races.  I know I react strongly when I see a principled Democrat defender like Charles Brown lumped in with a Democratic veteran who has not demonstrated their willingness to stand up and fight for Democratic ideals.  Not only does it potentially do a disservice to the candidates who will stand up and fight for our values, it also helps the candidates who won't.  In other words, it provides coattails to candidates who really don't deserve them.

For example, Jerry McNerney's opponent Steve Filson has been included in the candidate section of the Band of Brothers PAC.  Part of their mission statement reads:

We will highlight the unpopularity of the war in Iraq while turning a populist critique of excessive corporate influence into a broader statement about the contrast between special interests and the real interest of the nation.

Now I cannot believe anyone included Steve Filson in this group based on any compatibility with this mission statement.  Whatever you think about Filson as a candidate, he clearly has not demonstrated any willingness or desire to highlight the unpopularity of the war in Iraq OR to engage in a substantive populist critique of corporate influence.  So I am left thinking that he got in simply because he is a vet.

The Band of Brothers can do whatever they want to do and support whomever they want to support, and for whatever reason.  But looking at their site I am left with the feeling that the two different meanings of "Fighting Dem" have been conflated by them. And I see it all over the net.  And the real political upshot of this is that they may give aid and support to someone who really doesn't support their principles.  

Being a veteran should not give any Democratic candidate a golden ticket in a contested primary.  And when the term "Fighting Dem" is used as such, or when it is used as a club by a Democratic vet in a contested Democratic primary where the veteran has less demonstrated commitment to fighting for Democratic principles than the other candidate(s), there is bound to be a backlash.  

     

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by Matt Lockshin on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 03:19:30 PM EST
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you may be right (none / 0)

honestly, i don't remember reading KO's diary, so i may be mistaken.  the first time i read the term online it was used by a blogger to describe the dem vets who are running.  

but as far as the core of the issue goes (co-option), we are in total agreement.  i'm upset at some of the things rahm has pulled lately, including co-opting the fighting dems meme.  i personally believe that term should encompass people who run hard and fight for democratic values.  but i guess i am hoping that folks won't take their anger out on the fighting dems (i'm using the term to describe the vet candidates in this case) who really do believe in progressive values.

i think it's completely fair to take a look at each and every one of the vet candidates and support the ones whom you agree with.  but i also would like to see that meme pushed in order to destroy the myth that dems are weak on defense.  for me, that's why i push the term.  i understand that some folks don't agree with that, and that's fine (hey, we're not gonna agree on everything), but just to be clear, that's why I am pushing it.

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by annatopia on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 11:39:06 PM EST
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incoherent (none / 0)

arg, i totally left something out of that second paragraph.  

i am of two minds on this issue.  one, i do believe the term "fighting dems" should encompass people sho stand up strong and fight hard for dem values.  but i also believe it can be a valuable marketing term for our veteran candidates (see my third paragraph).

i'm not sure how we reconcile these two very different meanings, but i hope we can get there somehow.

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by annatopia on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 11:41:20 PM EST
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p.s. (3.00 / 1)

i'm recommending this diary because i do think this is a discussion the grassroots need to have.

not all the fighting dems (vets, specifically) are as progressive as yall would like.  but a good chunk of them are truly progressive, and they deserve to be supported.

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by annatopia on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 12:55:07 PM EST

Re: p.s. (none / 0)

Anna,

I completely agree with this post.  Don't read anything I said above as taking away from my complete agreement with you here.  

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by Matt Lockshin on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 03:23:57 PM EST
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not at all (none / 0)

hey no worries.  your points were well made.  =)
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by annatopia on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 11:41:56 PM EST
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Pombo, Truman, and FDR (3.00 / 2)

Just seeing Matt Lockshin's blog name (Say No to Pombo) reminds me how much ammunition we have to fight against those in power.  Talk about out of touch.  Pombo, the Republican majority in the House, and those "moderate" Republicans who enable them, are the ones who are out of touch with my values and the values of most Americans.

Harry Truman, of course, was a fighting Dem in both senses.  He was an Army Captain in WWI as well as being agreat fighter for the little guy whether a farmer, a worker, or anyone else.  FDR may not have worn a uniform but he pushed into being a better America built on Democratic primciples.  As jesse Jackson said so eloquently, I'd rather have Franklin Roosevelt in a wheel chair than Ronald Reagan on a horse.

Both Truman and FDR were fighting Dems.  Shutting out our FDrs is a travesty fooisted upon us by Rahm Emanuel.  Let's stay real fighting Dems!

by David Kowalski on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 04:48:50 PM EST

Go Jerry! (none / 0)

The grassroots is behind you.  You are a Democrat in the mold of Howard Dean, in that sense.  I squarely believe that it was Howard Dean's own party - and mine - that squandered the Democrats' best chance to beat Bush and have a president we could be proud of, and now they are trying to do that to you.  Well, they are going to fail, if we have anything to say about it.

I am going to be so proud to call you Congressman!

by deaniac83 on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 05:03:33 PM EST

Thanks For Your Support (3.00 / 1)

I just felt the need to reposition the term Fighting Dem after the DLC/DCCC crowd decided to highjack it to push this theme of overt militarism as being the only one that can win elections. Regardless whether one served or not, those who are not afraid to stand and fight for Democratic values are true Fighting Dems.

Using Fighting Dem in the DLC manner establishes an overly militaristic theme that seems a lot like Republican-lite.  By running this way the "establishment" Dems just validate the other side's argument that the real issues we care about are not mainstream. I still believe that supporting policies that promote economic opportunity for all rather than for just a select few, are mainstream ideas.

So when we win this race in November a powerful message will be sent to those in Washington: Democrats can win in so called red areas when they run on Democratic issues not as Republican-Lites.

- Jerry

www.jerrymcnerney.org

by McNerneyforCongress on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 10:52:46 PM EST


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