Get This Party Started: Blogging For Political Change



This is this first in a series of discussion on MyDD that focuses on an essay in Get This Party Started. All discussions will be led by the author of the essay in question. Next Thursday, our guest will be Alan Abramowitz. On February 9th, our guest will be Anna Greenberg. Future guests will be announced when they are scheduled.

My article in Get This Party Started is entitled "Blogging for Political Change." I wrote this essay back in late April and early May of 2005, under the premise that it is very difficult, if not impossible, for existing stakeholders in the progressive movement to understand how to work with blogs, bloggers and the blogosphere if they do not understand how blogs, bloggers and the blogosphere operates. It is in this sense that my essay is part of my larger project to help educate progressive stakeholders and the Democratic establishment about the nature of the progressive blogosphere. One other such prominent work in this project as the paper I co-authored with Matt for the New Politics Institute: The Emergence of the Progressive Blogosphere. If major stakeholders in the progressive community do not even understand blogs, how can we ever hope to have a more successful, productive relationship with these stakeholders?

Of course, one of the major difficulties in writing a definitional piece on progressive political blogging such as "Blogging for Political Change," is that theories on the nature of the blogosphere are always changing and building upon one another. In particular, since August my work on understanding the blogosphere has been, at the very least, equaled (and probably surpassed) by the great blogosphere theorist Peter Daou. And there are of course those two guys who know a little something about blogging, Jerome Armstrong and Markos Moulitsas Zuniga, who have a new book out that you may have heard of that touches on blogging a little bit.

My basic theory, as it stood in April and May, is that political blogging was best understood as a new type of journalism that differs from the established institutions of journalism in terms of what it views as its primary goal. For example, the following passage from the essay might look familiar to long-time readers of MyDD:

There is a striking similarity between these characteristics of avant-garde art and blogging, which served as the basis for the claim I made to Andy about the similarity between bloggers and avant-garde artists such as Ginsberg and Kerouac. The various avant-garde movements of the past century (and there are probably close to one hundred), produced their own journals, ran their own theaters, wrote their own criticism, made their own publicity, developed their own audiences, generated their own networks, became their own editors, solicited their own projects, bought their own printing materials, secured their own gallery space, ran their own bookstores and, in short, developed full-fledged artistic counter-institutions (even artistic counter-economies). In fact, many movements developed counter-institutions that were so strong that the movements became internationally famous (The Beats, Language poets, dada, Surrealists, etc).

Similarly, in reaction to the mainstream media, the progressive political blogosphere (a blogosphere is a network of blogs) has developed into a full-fledged counter-institution for the production, judgment, distribution and consumption of political writing. We are our own editors, publishers and publicists. We create our own websites, pay for many of our own servers and bandwidth, develop our own networks, and even hold our own award competitions. In addition to on site reporting from countless local and statewide event, we produce original, on-site reporting from major events such as the Iraq war and national political conventions. We develop original research on polling information and political strategy. We interview leading figures in American politics, and even have live, open-ended conversations with them on our blogs. In short, we have created an entire underground world of political news that operates independently of established, mainstream institutions of political journalism.

Creating a counter-institution is only one half of being avant-garde, however. The various manifestations of the artistic avant-garde also sought to relocate the primary purpose of art away from its aesthetic function. Again, we can find a clear analogy to the blogosphere. While it is generally understood that the purpose of established institutions of political journalism is primarily to inform (and, usually, to make a profit in so doing), political blogging strives to relocate the primary purpose of political and opinion journalism in agitation toward action. (166-167)
And this passage might also look familair:
To argue that blogs are either outlets for edgy and subversive content or dens of amoral, unaccountable journalism is to assume that the primary difference between bloggers and journalists is stylistic rather than purposive. Both critiques of blogs assume that bloggers are working primarily to achieve the same goals as journalists, which is to inform. Both critiques argue that what differentiates blogging from journalism is the bloggers' subversive style. However, considering just what stories have actually made blogs famous, I feel that it should be rather obvious that blogs are becoming famous not for their anti-establishment views or their amoral brand of journalism, but for justifiably claiming real political accomplishments. Conservative bloggers had helped turn the nationwide discussion of a story that was potentially damaging to President Bush into a story about how the media was being unfair to President Bush. Progressive bloggers had received significant mainstream media attention in late 2002 for helping to remove Trent Lott from his leadership position in the Senate over his specious remarks at the late Senator Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party. In 2003, bloggers were frequently covered by the press for assisting in the meteoric rise of Howard Dean's presidential campaign. Last year, I myself had begun to achieve a certain amount of notoriety for calling Gallup's methodology into question. More recent achievements of progressive blogs include outing Jeff Gannon as a pseudo-journalist within the White House Press gaggle, helping to elect Howard Dean chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and serving as Democratic Party whips during the Social Security debate. Every single time the mainstream media has paid significant attention to the activity of bloggers, it is not for the style and content of what we write, but instead for what we have helped to agitate or accomplish.

This is not a coincidence. Blogs have received the most attention from the mainstream media for their political accomplishments because the purpose of blogging is to bring about political change. Conversations on blogs are more akin to conversations at meetings for activist, political organizations than to conversations in coffee shops. This is the true way in which blogs are different from mainstream journalism. While traditionally journalists have worked to inform, bloggers strive to relocate the primary purpose of journalism in direct, partisan political action. Blogs are not just political journalism with a different style: they are political journalism with a different purpose. (169-170)
I still generally agree with this, but now, eight months later, I feel that it has lost much of its original power. Mind you, I don't think this is a bad thing. Instead, I think the reason the basic thesis of this passage has lost much of its force is that it has become much more accepted than it was in early 2005 (or before). I feel that there has been a large drop-off in complaints by the established news media that bloggers are not holding to traditional standards of journalism. Now, it seems as though it has finally sunk in to that bloggers are political actors and desire political results. They are not just journalists who want to become the next David Broder.

While I still generally agree with what I wrote, there are two smaller points where I now diverge from the thesis of the essay. In particular, I would no longer characterize bloggers as the journalistic avant-garde, as I have been doing for some time. While I do believe that blogging has emerged as a new type of activity that blurs previously discrete forms of human activity together (journalism and political activism), I do not believe that, at least on the progressive side of blogging, that we are looking to transform the profession of journalism into something more akin to blogging. Progressive bloggers are not looking to lead journalists into a new era of activist journalism, but rather to make journalists do their professed task--reporting the news--better.

What I mean by this is that, ideally, political blogging and political journalism would still remain discrete activities and discrete professions. However, journalism, as a profession, would turn away from the subjective direction that it has taken over the past few decades in an attempt to accommodate conservative charges of "bias." Thus, whereas conservatives have a problem with the "mainstream media" because it does too much reporting and not enough subjective pontificating on behalf of conservatives, progressive bloggers have a problem with the "established news media" because it is no longer doing its job of reporting the news and separating truth from subjectivity. We do not want blogging to become the next "mainstream" in journalism, which would be the typical goal of an avant-garde movement. We also do not want to change the goal of established news outlets, as a typical avant-garde movement would, because we actually think their goals--to report the news and reduce subjectivity--are valid. We just want established news outlets to perform their jobs. We are definitely avant-garde in some ways, but I'm not sure if the analogy is as strong as I first believed it to be.

The second way I would diverge from what I wrote in the essay is not so much in repudiating anything I wrote, but instead is to wonder why, if the goal of blogging is to affect political change, we seemingly tend to lose more battles than we win. Among other things, why did we do so poorly on Alito? Why isn't the talking head circuit on Sunday talk shows and the cable nets getting any better? Why is a narrative / filter about Democrats being the equivalent of Osama Bin Laden still so easy for the right-wing to pas along into the established news media? Sure, we are having more successes, like After Downing Street, Aravosis on Ford, and Glenn Greenwald's remarkable new breaking story. Still, as I pointed out in December, we really are just not breaking through on very large of a level. What's wrong?

At least in his "triangle" essays, Peter Daou seems to identify our lack of proper focus as the culprit.. From Peter's perspective, we are not properly focused on challenging the media and working to bring wayward Democrats into line (accomplishing both would be to "close" the triangle on any given story). I thinkt here is certainly some truth to this, but I also wonder how much of it is related to our own inability, as bloggers, to engage in more self-organization. We may spend a lot of time linking to one another, but we are always running forty campaigns at once. We may have conference calls sometimes, but how long do we really stay focused on any given topic? The blogosphere is truly chaotic, and seems to me to have a very short attention span.

I guess the question I am asking relates primarily to our independence that we so value. Yes, we are, generally speaking, free of the political and journalistic establishment, and yes the honesty and authenticity that comes with that independence can make us strong. However, if there is anything progressives should have learned a long time ago, it is that true political power comes from group action and from solidarity, not from a thousand different actors moving in a hundred different directions at once. If we truly want to affect political change, will it be necessary to, at least partially, leave the "golden era" of generally solitary, independent, diary-esque political blogging in the past? To what degree will we have to professional-ize political blogging in order to make political blogging more effective as a political force? And how would we even go about doing that if we decided it was valuable?

I can't say I know the answer to these vague questions, but I do know that I would like to make this the starting point of tonight's discussion. Why isn't progressive political blogging more effective? What larger role should political blogging have within a wider progressive movement, if any? Or am I wrong, and do others believe that it is already effective enough? I leave these questions to you.

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Both/And... (none / 0)

I think the challenge of self-organization is huge.  It's not the whole challenge we face, but it is the part of the challenge that we have the most control over.

I don't think that solving this problem requires leaving the "golden era" in the past.  It requires more in the way of restructuring, and a different mix of elements, rather than the elimination of existing elements.

Getting tags on this site is a tiny piece of that self-organizing project.  We need a lot more attention to how self-organizing can be furthered.  Group blogs with more sophisticated interfaces can empower a much broader array of ongoing activism, while still providing for intense focus when one story requires massive focus.

Aside from that, I would simply point out that the radical right has a 30-year head start and billions of dollars of focused funding.  It's going to take a while to catch up. It will be frustrating in the extreme.  Our task is to not let frustration turn into despair.


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:38:47 PM EST

Re: Both/And... (none / 0)

I totally agree with everything you are saying. I guess I shoudl have added more context to the way I feel the blogosphere is changing.

In particular, I am starting to feel more and more distant from the general community of the blogosphere. I wonder often if toher bloggers are feeling the same way. The entire thing has become so huge, that it has grown difficult to even remember many of hte posters on your blog anymore, much less the posters on other blogs. We are getting larger and larger audiences, while we are simultanesouly getting a lot more access within existing insitutions of power than we once did. There once was a time when the average blogger wasn't really all that different from the average blog reader. I think that the differences between the two has now grown quite significant.

In a way, the blogosphere is already adding a "management layer" at the top that it never had before, almost without knowing it is happening. In that sense, the era of the more "equal" blogosphere is coming to an end.

In some ways this feels like a good thing--we are getting more done now. However, it also seems like, at least from my persepctive, that many bloggers are slowly losing touch with their audiences. We ahve changed a lot since we started blogging--particuarly, we have grown a lot more powerful. However, has the community become more powerful? I'm not really sure--it is almost like they made us more powerful, but we didn't do much back for them.

And this, finally, gets back to what I was trying to say. A lot of bloggers, myself included, jealously guard their independence and freedom of action. However, if we are getting our power from our readers, maybe we should be willing to turn more of that power back over to them. If we don't, even if we ar successful, are we really doing what we came here to do--empower the outsiders and the low-level activists within the world of the politically engaged.

Wow--that was really rambling. I'll just post it now and try to regroup my thoughts.  


by Chris Bowers on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:57:05 PM EST
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Re: Both/And... (none / 0)

On the point of bloggers moving further away from blog readers/commenters, I think that's to be expected as the community grows larger. But I don't think it's something that we can't adapt to. I've often wondered why we don't have more of an progressive social networking infrastructure ala Friendster/MySpace/Facebook. Not for the blogging capability obviously, but for the personal interaction. I think it would go a long way in leveling the playing field between bloggers and users, at least in the way we deal with each other, reinforcing the idea that we are, first and foremost, a largely unified community of activists.

PS - Holy crap, we have integrated spellcheck? Hooray site re-launch!


by Scott Shields on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:05:55 PM EST
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Re-Democratizing The Blogosphere (none / 0)

My primary suggestion is one that I first made at LA Indymedia back in early 2001: develop a structure for allowing group editing of multiple user-selectable "front pages."  

What I envision is a heterarchical, overlapping tree-structure of nodes, allowing the intersection of two or more issues, as well as geographic locales. Every node would be available for group editing, but the front page for it would be algorithmically generated in the absence of such a group.  Main column stories, diaries and blogrolls would all be specifically tailored for each node.

Such a structure would encourage the development of collabortive editing and writing, as well as coordination between collaboratives. It would provide an easy entry-point for readers to become more involved as producers, even if their writing or researching skills are meager to begin with.  It would be a very rich skill-building environment, as well as being information rich.  And the geographical component would facilitate real-life/online collaborations.

In theory, one would only need one such site, which would serve as a grand clearinghouse that the rest of the blogosphere could interface with.  New developments in the blogosphere would give rise to new tree strucutres on the site.  But other sites might want to replicate the structural concept on a more limited scale as well.


by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:18:04 PM EST
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Natural progression? (none / 0)

...many bloggers are slowly losing touch with their audiences. We ahve changed a lot since we started blogging--particuarly, we have grown a lot more powerful. However, has the community become more powerful? I'm not really sure--it is almost like they made us more powerful, but we didn't do much back for them.

Unfortunately, what you're describing here seems to be the natural progression of any movement, particularly in politics. Many of those people in the Democratic establishment that we cannot stand today were once young activists with altruistic motives themselves -- Joe Lieberman being a perfect example.

Here's to hoping that for every blogger that loses touch with the netroots, there's a new one to take his or her place.


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by LiberalFromPA on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:30:13 PM EST
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Re: Both/And... (none / 0)

Paul Rosenberg makes an excellent point about the size of the challenge, and about not letting frustration turn into despair.  It's easy to forget just how immature the Internet is as a medium, or to overlook how much any immature medium will have to change and develop before it becomes an established force.   In a sense, Chris is addressing these "growing pains" in his post, as it's still not clear how blogs can organize for maximum effectiveness.  I'm not sure at this point that it would be reasonable to expect otherwise.  This may not make it any easier to deal with the frustration that comes when we fail to achieve immediate objectives, but it perhaps a useful context for appreciating the situation.


by Matthew Kerbel on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 09:57:52 PM EST
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Re: Both/And... (none / 0)

Sorry--it has been a really long day. I think I'm getting brain fry. Anyhway, there are four major concerns here.

I think it is important to retain two big facets of the "old" blogosphere:

--Writers in touch with the concerns of their readers

--Writers who are free to inovate and be brutally honest

At the same time, I think there are two "new" things that we need:

--Better connections witht he rest of the progressive movement

--Better internal organization that leads to more political success.

Puilling off all four of these is going to be very hard. I know I struggle with it a lot. But I think that as we move away from figuring out who we are and toward how we achieve what we want, it will be essential that we find a way to fulfill all four of these functions as best as we can.


by Chris Bowers on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:09:50 PM EST
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Getting in line (none / 0)

From Peter's perspective, we are not properly focused on...working to bring wayward Democrats into line...

I think Peter may be bringing up a great point here. What I want to know, as a blog commenter and not someone who runs a widely-read blog, is how much communication there is between "top" bloggers and Democratic politicians. A little? A lot? Virtually none?

If the extent of a blogger's "power" is to post on a topic and suggest that readers e-mail and call a Democratic politician's office in order to enact change and get wayward Democrats "in line", I think each attempt to enact change will have hit or miss results.

Bloggers tend to be "outsiders" and have outsider mentalities -- they don't want to become insiders, for fear of the corrupting influence of that status. And that makes perfect sense. But insiders have access, and access often creates greater power to enact change. Are any bloggers getting "inside"? Or is the blogosphere a seperate entity, with no meaningful ties to the party establishment, for fear of the negative results of becoming insiders?

If the latter is to be the perpetual state of the progressive blogosphere, I wonder if the progressive blogosphere will ever have the clout to bring wayward Democrats into line on a regular basis, in the same manner conservative activists have been able to do with their party.


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by LiberalFromPA on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:06:35 PM EST

Re: Getting in line (none / 0)

To your first question, I would say "a little." However it is growing at a pretyt quick clip. And we also have a lot of communication between junior staffers throughout the progessive movement. They seem to be most responsive to our concerns, since they typically share them. I also agree that the blogopshere can not remain permanent "outsiders" if they hope to affect real, long-term change. The lesson I learned form the Dena campaign was that it was impossible to overthrow the entire hierarchy all at once. The change has to be gradual, so that the inside is eventually forced to adopt elements of the outside (and, as a result, the outside ends up looking more like the inside). It is funny that I wrote that about Daou's piece, because in retrospect, I wish I had "focused" my question at the end of this post better myself.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:14:58 PM EST
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Gradual change (none / 0)

One thing I've been thinking for quite some time is that the disconnect between the current Democratic establishment and the progressive base -- particularly with the netroots -- is generational.

As the internet continues to become an increasingly fundamental part of all aspects of politics, we'll gradually end up with a Democratic establishment which has grown up with the netroots and both understands the netroots and knows how to use effectively use it for our cause.


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by LiberalFromPA on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:07:16 PM EST
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Re: Gradual change (none / 0)

I definately think there is a genrational gap. Netroots members tend to be younger, and have fewer memories of Demcorats winning and / or being the natural governing party. The progressive establishment in many ways still operates like we are the natural governing party. Age is clearly a factor.

Whether it will be cured with time, I don't know. I mean, another divide might come along in fifteen years, making someone such as myself completely out of touch with the younger generation. Or maybe its already happening--I catch myself listening to all 90's radio stations sometimes.
by Chris Bowers on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:26:08 PM EST
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Closing the triangle (none / 0)

Corrente's Expanded Daou Triangle clarified the problem in my mind, but omitted important connections.

There are unavoidable problems with increased complexity, but treating both political parties as unified wholes is not accurate.

Focusing on the Democratic Party, I made the observation that there should be two circles. There is actually a broken line between the Mainstream Democratic Party and Corporations and the DLC has a direct connection to corporate America.

A more vital omission in Daou's Expanded Triangle is the Right Wing Noise Machine. I would include a circle representing the RWNM to the right of and in between the Republican Party and Right Wing Bloggers.

In addition to having direct links with the GOP and Right Wing Bloggers, the Think Tanks that make the RWNM go also have direct connections to the Beltway Conventional Wisdom, the Corporate Media, Corporations and probably the DLC.

Those connections explain the exagerrated influence of the RWNM and their ability to inject outright lies into the M$M; most recently the "Abramoff is a bi-partisan scandal" and "Bid Laden parrots Michael Moore/Liberal talking points." The Conventional Beltway Wisdom and the Corporate Media can both almost be viewed as mere departments of the RWNM.

The RWNM dominates the M$M and the Beltway because there is serious money behind it. In the final analysis Corporations and the Super Rich are a secondary powerful link between the RWNM, the Beltway Conventional Wisdom and Corporate America.

That brings us to the Mainstream Democratic Party and Progressive Bloggers. I would insert a solid line between the Mainstream Democratic Party (DNC & Howard Dean and Progressive Dems) and Progressive Bloggers. Instead of a broken line between Progressive Bloggers and the DLC wing of the Democratic Party, I would put an actual impenetrable dam to indicate outright hostility.

The bottom line is that the Mainstream Democratic Party and Progressive Bloggers are two isolated circles that are connected only to each other and disconnected from every other actor in the political establishment. That's why we are generally unable to influence any of the other actors. They are all our mutual political and ideological enemies.


by Gary Boatwright on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 10:53:32 PM EST

Re: Closing the triangle (none / 0)

In addition to corporate money and partisan institutional structures, don't forget that Republicans also control the formal institutions of government.  This contributes greatly to the influence that you correctly say they have over the creation of conventional wisdom and its dissemination through traditional media.  Reporters will always have a bias toward official news from official sources.  The only way I know of to change this is to win elections.


by Matthew Kerbel on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:08:45 PM EST
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Re: Closing the triangle (3.00 / 1)

Absolutely. But even when Clinton was President and Democrats still controlled the Senate the RWNM had inordinate influence on the M$M. We have to focus on and attempt to address the factors that affect Democratic-Progressive-Blogger political performance even when Democrats are in power.

To a very large degree we are institutionally shut out of the political news process regardless of which party controls Congress or the White House.


by Gary Boatwright on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:21:41 PM EST
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Closing the Triangle (none / 0)

Michael Hammer had an article in the Harvard Business Review Re-engineering Work: Don't Automate, Obliterate. ($6 download fee)

His thesis sentence was:

It is time to stop paving the cow paths. Instead of imbedding outdated processes in silicone and software, we should obliterate them and start over.

A fundamental problem with the M$M is that journalists have been paving the cowpaths. In spite of all of the technology available to improve how effectively and efficiently journalists do their job, nothing has really changed. Cable is the best example of how either technology has failed journalism or journalism has failed technology. In fact, cable news has probably used technology to revert or devolve back to the days of yellow journalism.

At the risk of being heretical, blogging is going to change how journalists do their job. I don't know what other newspapers are doing with their blogs, but this is an L.A. Times online feature:

BLOGS
LAKERS: Wilt vs. Kobe
HILTZIK: Hollywood's Return of the Native
VEGAS: Elton John is the Strip's #1 Celeb
LIVE CURRENT: The Honorable Sen. Egomaniac
GOLD DERBY: And the Oscar Nominees Will Be...

Live Current has been a non-starter.

Michael Hiltzik's Golden State Blog is an interesting example of how blogging is affecting journalism and vice versa. Hilzoy at Obsidian Wings has written riffs on Hiltzik's blog columns and Hiltzik was a guest blogger at Political Animal, which may explain a lot about his relative success compared to Live Current.

The point I am getting to is that I'm not sure the problem is organizational as much as it is outreach or perhaps something like "connectivity" with M$M outlets. A development the NY Times is doing everything they can to thwart.


by Gary Boatwright on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 12:44:59 AM EST

Re: Closing the Triangle (none / 0)

I also think that part of the problem is the entire issue of legitimcay.  Bloggers do not want to be too much like journalists because in their arena it loses them too much credibility.  At the same time, journalists hold true to their line of how irresponsible bloggers are and how they cannot be considered journalists.  

While in many ways this is simply a semantical debate there are many important aspects to keep an eye on.  First of all, bloggers primarily through their community have a greater source of transperency then journalists.  In an active community such as this one bloggers react and respond to actual comments made by people like me.  In other mediums such as television and print the "star" has the chance to de-contexualize everything that they respond to, clouding the waters.

Secondly, we need to keep an eye on the legitimacy issue.  We need to question why it is always brought up.  Are we discussing legitimacy because the issues at hand frighten those outside of the blogosphere?  Has their comfortable nest been uprooted by a few rogue citizens.  While I agree with an extent to what Chris has said about Bloggers being a modern day Ginsberg I think that a more acurate description may be that bloggers are closer being a modern day Thomas Paine, or Franz Fanon.  Clearly, the periphery is writing back to the center.  I'm not prepared to say that the blogosphere by itself represents an entirely seperate sect of society, but I believe that by and large it is helping to shed light on what is becoming a very dichotomous world that we live in.  The attempt to cut down any authority that the blogosphere is maintaining could in many ways be an attempt to cut down on revolutionary forces.  Again, I do not mean to suggest that we are heading towards revolution, but the underpinnings over legitimacy reek of a total and complete cultural crossfire.


Mark
by Mark J. Bowers on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 02:10:15 AM EST
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What if... (none / 0)

I thought I would focus on some effective and popular bloggers.  First is Josh Marshall.  You could make the case that his blog was the most effective is slowing down and stopping the social security restructuring, bringing down Duke Cunningham, and connecting many of the diverse elements in the Abramoff scandal. He's a trained journalist and used Lexis Nexus and his previous connections as a journalist to do the regular old muckraking journalists do.  It's like old "issue newspapers" on speed.  He gets feedback from his literate and informed readers and posts the best, in his opinion, on his front page.  He also gets enough income from the blog, through gifts and advertisers, to follow the subject he and his readers get fired up about.  
Another effective blogger is on Dailykos: Jerome a Paris.  He can't effect political change directly because he's foreign, but because he's in the alternative energy business and has a global perspective; he gives necessary information for Americans to be able to act.  Dailykos gives him an instant large audience, but it doesn't really have an action forum suitable to him.  If someone who is informed on effective groups (whether political, economic, or social action) would provide an addendum to each of Jerome's posts, that alone might lead to more effective change.
I always read MYDD because it keeps me informed on election issues and it's usually upbeat, when you consider that the Democrats are out of power and those Democrats who have had a chance to speak have been hesitant to, as we say, "Speak Truth to Power."  Hope serves a function.  It's the plucky hero whom everyone admires and eventually overcomes.  At least in novels, maybe in life.  So you all are my plucky heros.
by prince myshkin on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 04:36:41 AM EST

Baby boomers will join the party (none / 0)

Reading this post and the comments I have a thought that might give us more hope. You speak of the generational problem that will be fixed when more people grow up with blogs and the internet. But I think that as the baby boomers age (I'm 53) and start to retire they will have time rekindle their liberal activist roots and thus will join the party. I'm one of the rare lucky ones who got to stay home with her kids, now 18 & 20, and have been reading blogs since after the 2000 election; but most people my age don't have this luxury. Those BBer's who haven't gone over to the dark side due to love of tax breaks will be more and more internet savy. They are already using the net for shopping but probably using the M$M for news and information. With retirement and hours to fill, surfing the net might bring them in. Let's hope.


by mpower1952 on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 10:18:14 AM EST

What's the Role? What's the Goal? (none / 0)

I'm coming in late, but I think this is a very interesting and important discussion. I'd like to focus on a couple of things:

Is there a unified role of the blogosphere?   It seems very clear to me that there isn't.  Josh Marshall is effectively a journalist who happens to work on a blog.  MyDD, by and large, specializes in election analysis.  DailyKos and Atrios mostly bring attention to issues through their huge readership (not to suggest that there's no analysis on those sites, as clearly there is).  Digby and Liberal Oasis are commentators/editorialists.  All of this is useful, but I don't see it as unified.

The question, I think, then becomes, how do we fit the right pieces into the right shapes.  If we want to advocate a message to the party leaders (e.g., filibuster), it seems to me that this is a message that needs to be trumpeted on the sites with big readerships (e.g. Kos). How do we do that in a focused way?  Kos has so many threads that it's not always easy to make one or two key points stick (this is another way the Administration has survived so many fires - there's so damn many of them that it's to focus.  Should we be screaming about Alito? Illegal wiretapping? Prescription drugs?  Corruption?).

What if we're trying to bring the latest media outrage to the fore?  What's the best way to do that?  My sense is that you have to go where the journalists go, and that's more like to be a place like TalkingPoints.

Sites like MyDD more often than not serve as info suitable for strategists.  How do we go about getting their attention?  

If I've discussed various goals above, then the next question is will bloggers be happy and willing to serve the roles that best suit them and their readership?  Is there enough communication among bloggers such that an issue brought up by MyDD or Digby, say, can get the mass attention it needs on Kos and Atrios?  

I'll stop now, because I feel that the more I write the less focused I'm getting, but I'm really trying to ask about the distinct goals of disparate blogs, and whether we can achieve proper coordination among progressive to communicate important message to the proper consumers of that message.


by danielj on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 08:35:30 PM EST

Re: Get This Party Started: Blogging For Political (none / 0)

"In particular, I am starting to feel more and more distant from the general community of the blogosphere. I wonder often if toher bloggers are feeling the same way."

Oh, sure we do.  It's just that if you're not on the A-list or members of the Kos Clique, you get criticized and censured for saying so.

But if someone of YOUR "stature" says it, it's OK then.


by NYCO on Wed Jul 05, 2006 at 08:22:41 AM EST


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