It's Over (for a few hours, anyway)

753 of 753. Schmidt 57,974--54,401 Hackett. Hackett will concede. He will run again in 2006, and win. It’s over--but not for long. Any other district in Ohio and he would have won. This has been a colossal victory for the netroots. It's tidal, if you ask me.

For now, I’ll stick to the other f-word: fuck. We were close. Still, great job everyone. If we do this nationally in 2006, well then...



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f*** yea (none / 0)

it was a good night.

hope the washington dems are listening.

hackett in 06!  can't wait.  =)

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by annatopia on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:12:39 PM EST

Re: f*** yea (none / 0)

I hope Hackett runs in 2006.
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by nwprogressive on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:14:55 PM EST
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Excellent coverage (none / 0)

thanks for all your hard work!

Now the GOP has been put on notice for 2006.  

Hopefully their collapse in Ohio continues.  But knowing the Republicans, they will be ready to go in 06.

by agpc on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:13:32 PM EST

Very disappointing (none / 0)

but a great sign at the same time. I wish we could know how much of Hackett's good showing was due to his vet status and how much to dissatisfaction within that district with the Republicans. I guess maybe we'll find out in November of next year.
by Dog of the South on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:15:36 PM EST

Re: Very disappointing (none / 0)

Good point.  Few other candidates can claim vet status.  Its automatic credibility.  It will be interesting to see how other candidates with the same aggressive attitude will play out in Ohio in the near future.    
by Eric11 on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 01:54:27 AM EST
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It's progress (none / 0)

defintely, but not a victory.  Victory would've sent Hackett to Washington.

Calling it a "victory" means you don't have to take a hard look at why WE DIDN'T WIN.  Pat ourselves on the back for 15 mins., then figure out how to to it better next time.  

the lyceum
by mattgabe on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:16:10 PM EST

Re: It's progress (none / 0)

Luckily, the next election is just over a year away...there will be another chance.
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by nwprogressive on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:17:08 PM EST
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Re: It's progress (none / 0)

Absolutely, that's the point.  Let's think about how to send this guy to the House in 2006.
the lyceum
by mattgabe on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:34:54 AM EST
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Re: It's progress (none / 0)

I disagree. Had PH won, he would've been just another lame duck democratic congressman laying eggs in the US House of rep.s (the minority party gets to diddly under the current structure, esp. when GOP is the majority since they're tough on their dissenters, as one'd guess).

This way, he can stay back in Ohio, and the party can try to develop a strategy around his electrifying challenge in CD-2. I think he can end up having a much greater impact having lost.

Neo

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by NeoLiberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:24:48 PM EST
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2006, Here WE COME! (none / 0)

Paul took this race to a draw, in one of the most Republican Districts in Ohio. That is kick ass in my book. It's not a win, but I would be shitting bricks if I were the Republican Leadership in Congress.
by NJDEM1 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:17:22 PM EST

48% for Hackett (none / 0)

A very nice showing for Hackett about 15% better than Kerry or Gore and about 20% better than recent Democrats running for this seat.

Also the turnout looks pretty high for a special election maybe 25 to 30%.

Councilman Bill Painter
by Painter2004 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:17:44 PM EST

Gotta agree (3.00 / 1)

Even by Charlie Cook's "bar lowering" standards, for the GOP this is somewhere between "a very serious warning sign for Ohio Republicans that something is very, very wrong" and "a devastating blow to the Ohio GOP".

I can live with that, given the heavy majority of wingnuts/GOP diehards that infest OH-02.  Congratulations to Maj. Hackett for his astounding performance, and congratulations to the netroots, Swing State Project and everyone else who worked to make this possible.

Had this been one campaign of a 50-state "challenge all districts" effort, I think it's fairly safe to say that the GOP would have lost seats.  Perhaps a lot of seats.

I know some in the netroots will call this a loss (doubtless with the help of GOP trolls out for a good time or to demoralize lefties).  And I know we're hungry for a win.  But we just proved a winning strategy.  We lost a battle so we could win the war.  I'll take that any day.

by jonweasel on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:18:04 PM EST

Congratulations! (none / 0)

Congratulations to everyone who had a hand in this -- and particularly the candidate himself!

This is the test case, the proof case, for running candidates in EVERY district. If we tell our story and tell it with honesty, courage and passion, we can't lose, even if we lose the election. THIS is how you create a foundation to buoy up the Party and get the message out to the people. People respond. People listen when the same old crap isn't being churned out by some DC "strategist." People really DO have the power.

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by barbwire on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:18:32 PM EST

Oh, and Chris/Jerome... (none / 0)

...this has been an excellent test of the MyDD servers.  I'd say you need a few more :)
by jonweasel on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:19:19 PM EST

Hackett for US Senate (none / 0)

Have him run against DeWine next year.

I think a candidate like this is going to waste in the 2nd district. Chris is right, anywhere else in the state and he'd have won. But next November turnout will be higher, and that makes it even tougher. Schmidt will have to compete, and that's awesome. But the GOP will have a new candidate for Governor on the same ballot in '06, who's not Bob Taft.

by zt155 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:19:28 PM EST

Good news (3.00 / 1)

I know a lot of you will cry fraud and whine. But I think what we did was amazing. We made a 70% GOP district close. If we can keep that sort of thing up, WE WILL TAKE BACK CONGRESS IN 2006.
by raginillinoian on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:20:12 PM EST

This Washington State liberal... (none / 0)

...doesn't regret a dime of what I donated, and wish maybe I could've given more.  Great job on the ground, Ohio Dems, and thanks for running, Maj. Hackett.  You people are the new Deomocratic movement.
by jexter on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:22:07 PM EST

VA liberal college student (none / 0)

  I agree.  I don't regret a single dime of the money from my "drinking fund" that I misapropriated for the Hackett campaign
Next Generation Democrats
by Pitin on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:49:19 PM EST
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OK Dean Democrat College old-ass college student (none / 0)

I sure as HELL don't regret anyhing I kicked into the Hackett campaign.

Any I want to see every vote counted, then counted again.  If they want hackett to pay, I'm prepped to chip in.

I still honestlythink that if they count all the votes, more people went to vote for Hackett than Schmidt today.  Hope we can get this bitch counted right.

by teknofyl on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:55:33 AM EST
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Questions (none / 0)

1.)  When a statute says that there will be an automatic recount at 1% margin, how is the 1% calculated.  What is the margin of vistory in this race, for example.  (That's just a general question.  I don't anticipate a recount here.)

2.) Even if it didn't affect the outcome, I'd like to see follow-up on the voting irregularities, e.g., Jean Schmidt going within the polling place.  How do we make that happen?

by Abby on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:23:01 PM EST

Ahhhh that dang Karl Rove guy... (3.00 / 1)

Remember his exurb strategy of targeting Clermont, Warren and Butler counties in 2004?

Well, Hackett did really well in the rural counties (Brown, Scioto, etc) but guess where he lost... Clermont, Warren, Hamilton.

To me, this election shows that we can come up with a message that appeals to the evangelistic rural poor. It's the white americans with yellow ribbon bumper stickers in places like Warren County that are as republican as ever.

by bobestes on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:23:20 PM EST

Re: Ahhhh that dang Karl Rove guy... (none / 0)

That is what's killing our local party - "straight ticket Republican" suburbanites.

All they know about politics they get from talk radio, or they extrapolate the local races from the national races. (In other words, they won't vote for a Democrat for county auditor because they don't like John Kerry.)

These are the people with the yellow bumper stickers on their monster SUV's. They have far more money than sense. These people are so isolated from the real world, that they aren't affected by Republican mismanagement of the nation (or they don't realize it) and are free to vote on the "chickenshit" issues.

by wayward on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 07:07:04 AM EST
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What about the Provisionals? (3.00 / 2)

Is it true that there are over 14,000 provisional ballots in Hamilton County alone? If this is true, this race is not over.
by YellowDog2000 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:24:05 PM EST

Re: What about the Provisionals? (none / 0)

Good point. Let me holler.

HELLO, ANYBODY HOME? YD2K raises a great point reg. PROVISIONALs. If there are over 10K prov. ballots, Hackett should ask for them to be counted. Just want to make sure that they won't make a mistake by conceding if there are a large # of these.

Neo

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by NeoLiberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:28:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What about the Provisionals? (3.00 / 1)

Provisionals are counted starting tomorrow I believe.  Haven't heard anything on quantities yet but 14,000 seems high for the Hamilton area.
by Demo Dan in Dayton on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:28:46 PM EST
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my final comment of the night (none / 0)

i still think they should recount the ballots and check the "errors" and investigate the whole schmit schemes of comeing in near polling places and handing out flyers but i don't expect a change in the election just want fair to be fair (WA govenorship was almost lost becuse of the GOP trying to stop the recount.)  and now we have a top tier candidate for 2006 senate assumeing Hackett doesn't get drafted into the war (again).
also i think it is improtant that he got 48% this shows change in Ohio and maybe the country.

-Hackett for senate 06'!  

Running the Davis, Nelson Klein team in Florida.
by Liberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:26:00 PM EST

Eh Oh Where'd you go, Ohio? (none / 0)

Neat song that leads off the Rush Limbaugh radio hour.  Think it was by the pretenders..

Hackett seems alright by me. Interesting that the government has to run lots of money to keep a soldier from making rank and actually having a vote on the floor. Independents think its funny to see how the GOP squirmed to make sure that nobody that actually fights in the war can vote on the war. Its sort of like "Keep Mr. Smith from Going to Washington" . Of course, another pathetic loss by the democrats with once again the soul-less spam, stupid appeals - blatant advertising. They don't play to win.

And in the end, wasn't it all about how much time, effort and money you spent watching things stay exactly the same -  how your voice didn't count?

by turnerbroadcasting on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:27:33 PM EST

Re: Eh Oh Where'd you go, Ohio? (none / 0)

The song is "My City Was Gone" by the Pretenders from their 1984 album "Learning to Crawl".  It was about how shopping malls destroyed downtown Akron, Chrissie Hynde's hometown.

Oh, and the actual line is "A, o, way to go ohio"

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pretenders/110674.html

Matt Flynn
by Flynnieous on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 01:41:01 AM EST
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Are there any consequences for Schmidt's (none / 0)

illegally campaigning too close to an election site? Or can someone just do that, and then be elected anyway?
by roses on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:27:47 PM EST

One can hope (3.00 / 1)

Would be nice to have her start off her term promptly being charged with election law violations :)

The GOP just can't get a break, can it?  Poor, poor Republicans.

by jonweasel on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:30:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

up and down (3.00 / 1)

Once the counting started and it appeared there was a real chance for more than simply a moral victory, suddenly anything less seemed like it would be a disappointment.  Now that Hacket lost and the victory is a symbolic one (though a strong one), I found something which put it in perspective.   Imagine if a Conservative Republican came into Chuck Schumer's old district in Brooklyn and got to within a few points of a Democratic challenger.  Damn, that would make me shiver.  This was indeed a great sign.
It Affects You -- Ross
by up2date on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:28:44 PM EST

Charlie Cook (3.00 / 1)

"A Schmidt win of less than five points should be a very serious warning sign for Ohio Republicans that something is very, very wrong..."

Though we may all have gotten irritated at Cook's setting such a low bar for failure for Schmidt, we can all say tonight that he was exactly right. 3.2% seems to be the margin of victory. Cook has it. Something is very, very wrong for the GOP. For the Dems, on the other hand...

Now, for all of the talk about how great this is for next year's midterms, the big question is why OH-2 voted the way they did. Was it Hackett's military service? Was it a referendum on Bush and the Iraq War? Was it a referendum on Karl Rove? Was it a referendum on Coingate and the Ohio GOP? Was it that Jean Schmidt less-than-great candidate? Some post-special election polling of OH-2 wouldn't be unwelcomed.

The one thing that was proven tonight is that there is no such thing as a safe GOP seat in an open election. Seats will always lean one way or another. However, every seat needs to be contested by the strongest possible candidate, end of story.

by Scott Shields on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:30:34 PM EST

as I see it (none / 0)


it was a referendum on hardline Republicanism.  A hardcore opponent to it showed up and (to my analysis of the numbers) most of the Republican moderates split from their hardliners at the ballot box or stayed home.  Schmidt got just enough Republican moderates her way to win.  Hackett got Democrats, Indies (if they showed up), and a chunk of moderate Republicans.

So, for one thing the moderate/hardliner split in the GOP is now genuine and starting to run pretty deep.  Their moderates are now doing all three things possible to them- voting along with the GOP, staying home, and voting Democratic.

The glass half empty side is that GOP hardliners still have some pull on GOP moderates.  The math says the crucial 4,000 votes were those of moderates/leaners (it's a mid/high forties hardline Republican district, so ~10-12% moderate Republicans as a guesstimate, or 10-15,000 votes).  That would be a third or so of the demographic going to Schmidt.

My estimation of a 2-1 or 2-1-1 split against Schmidt in this demographic is that support for her was riding on one or two issues, out of a political space that encompasses six or seven policy areas, and probably benefit of the doubt more than strong agreement.  In any case, a fairly weak hold on these voters.  I suspect she won't make it through elections next year- her pals will kill her in the primary.

by killjoy on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 01:12:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hackett should analyse the count before conceding (none / 0)

I don't have the latest numbers since the clermont county site is down, but I heard that the turnout in that county was much higher than in the others.
by Spongebob76 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:35:15 PM EST

Amazing Results (none / 0)

I would have been ecstatic if it had gone down to 55-45 tonight. To even imagine three weeks ago that an unknown Democrat with the help of grass (net) roots activists could go into OH-2, speak the truth about Bush and the Republicans in power, and come out with 48% of the vote is absolutely amazing.

In Sacramento, CA we had a special election earlier this year. The district is about as Democratic as OH-2 is Republican and our Doris Matsui walked away with 69% of the vote. There was no challenge because it was seen as unwinnable. The netroots saw OH-2 and made it winnable.

There had better be a big ole story about this in the MSM because we all know there would be if a Republican had done this well in such an unfriendly district. There would be stories about how the Democratic base was crumbling yada yada yada. This race was far more significant than Herseth's or Chandler's victories because they were well known names in their respective states. I thinks I may be seeing some crumbling of the Republican base going on.

by Bothwell on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:35:34 PM EST

Not quite the same (none / 0)

Matsui was the window of the incumbent and was considered Hillary-esque (in a good sense)-that is, involved and aware of what her husband did.  She was, in effect, the incumbent.
by Geotpf on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:02:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Not quite the same (none / 0)

Yes she definitely had that going for her, but my main point was that both races were seen as locks for one party at the beginning and because of a renewed passion on the left only one race became a true contest.
by Bothwell on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:43:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

A great run (3.00 / 1)

I used to live near Cincinnati and I can tell you it's populated by a large nubmer of racist rednecks.  For Hackett to take on this crowd and not get "buried" in such a right wing bastion is an amazing feat and will provide much needed inspiration to other candidates considering similar type runs.  I predicted a 15 point loss easy and I'm utterly shocked by these results.  You really have to live there to understand so chin up folks.
by robroy on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:37:05 PM EST

I gotta tell ya (3.00 / 1)

I know this is a huge victory--crazy, bizarre, impossible that he came this close. I know how important this is--and not just for an Ohio tidal wave that now seems all but assured in 2006.

But still, I want to cry. I had supressed all hope for so long, and then it came out when Hackett took the lead. And that it went away so quickly makes me want to cry--honestly.

But tomorrow, its back to business. There is, after all, this huge event that I am MCing...

by Chris Bowers on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:40:44 PM EST

Condolences, Chris (none / 0)

I know what you mean.
by jonweasel on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:46:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Another mandate! Schmidt's 51.6% n/t (none / 0)


by groggy on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:49:59 PM EST

Schmidt and voting iregularities (none / 0)

  I've read quite a bit about a videotape someone took of Schmidt inside the polling place.  I passed this info on to someone at the campaign and pretty much heard "yeah, that'd be fun to have during a recount." and in a resigned kind of way, brushed the whole thing off.  SOMEONE FIND THIS VIDEO then send it to the campaign and MSM.  Kerry conceded WAY to early.  I think the calls for a recount might need to wait until the provisionals are tabulated, but if they put a plus in the Hackett colum, I call for a recount.  (anyone have any numbers about provisionals floating around out there?)

Dare I said we gave the OH GOP blue balls tonight?

Next Generation Democrats
by Pitin on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:55:49 PM EST

Hope there's no humidity in '06 (none / 0)

Tonight Schmidt County had a steamy...44% humidity. Dewpoint of 60, when it was in the '80s; the weather report called a "dry" night.

Reminds me of Bush falling down in the Crawford mud, during a drought.

by Smallbottle on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:07:53 AM EST

This isn't correct (none / 0)

The only town I've been able to find in Clermont, OH on short notice is Batavia, OH:

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/ifps/MapClick.php?CityName=Batavia&state=OH&site=ILN

As you can see from the Weather Service current conditions report, the humidity is (right now) around 95%.  Earlier, when word first came out of high humidity causing problems, I checked and at that point the humidity was 75%.

I don't know what happened to the optical scan machines, but I can tell you that at least according to the Weather Service, the high humidity was legit.  It was the same for the other counties in OH-02 I checked.

by jonweasel on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:42:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: This isn't correct (none / 0)

Greetings,
Swing State Project 8-02-05
SSP UPDATE (7:39): via SSP: "56 precincts of 753 reporting PAUL HACKETT 6,562 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 6,276 49%
SSP UPDATE (8:12): WCPO: 305 precincts of 753 reporting  PAUL HACKETT 23,957 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 22,846 49%
SSP UPDATE (8:40) 56 precincts of 753 reporting PAUL HACKETT 6,562 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 6,276 49%
08:51 PM 175 precincts of 753 reporting PAUL HACKETT 13,512 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 12,802 49%
SSP UPDATE (9:06) 259 precincts reporting of 753 -- Paul Hackett 52.18% to 47.81%
--------------------------------------------------
09:07 PM UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SPECIAL ELECTION HAMILTON COUNTY, OH
PRC CNT - TOTAL  -776 - 250  32.22%
Registered Voters - TOTAL 470858
Registered Voters - 2ND CONG DIST 456161
Ballots Cast -- TOTAL  36252  7.70%
Ballots Cast - 2ND CONG DIST  35540      7.79%
PRC CNT - 2ND CONG  -753 -- 245          32.54%
PRC CNT - ADAMS CO.    --35   - 12          34.29%
PRC CNT - BROWN CO.    --35  - 18   51    .43%
* PRC CNT - CLERMONT CO.  (--191 -- 0     0.00%)
PRC CNT - HAMILTON CO.   --342 - 97  28.36%
PRC CNT - PIKE CO.                    --24 -12   50.00%
PRC CNT - SCIOTO CO.               --70 -50   71.43%
PRC CNT - WARREN CO.             --79 -61  77.22%
DEM - PAUL HACKETT 18476  51.99%  REP - JEAN SCHMIDT 17064  48.01%
--------------------------------------------------
Check out the time line. Everybody is on the board by 09:07 PM via UNOFFICIAL RESULTS  HAMILTON COUNTY, OH
EXCEPT PRC CNT - CLERMONT CO.  -191 -0    -0.00%

09:08 PM -195 of 753 precincts Hackett 52% 15,154 - Schmidt 48% 14,008
SSP UPDATE (9:13PM) -305 precincts of 753 Hackett leads 51% 23,957 - Schmidt 49% 22,846
SSP 9:30 PM -305/735 Hackett 23,957 51% - Schmidt 22,846 49%
--------------------------------------------------
SSP 10:25 PM  91 precincts remaining out of 191 in Clermont County is all that's left. Paul is down 800 votes.

NOTE! 10:29 PM Clermont County Board of Elections www.clermontelections.org/Message: Internet Service Unavailable

Counting was delayed due to humidity said an election official- in a freeking air-conditioned building?
I checked and Accuweather says for Batavia, Ohio 20 miles away.  
Time Temp (° F) RealFeel (° F) Rel Hum.
Noon     91          98                  41
1pm       92        104                  35
2pm       94        105                  35  
3pm       93          98                  36
4pm       95          97                  33
5pm       90          94                  46
6pm       92          91                  36  
7pm       84          87                  60
8pm       79          83                  64
9pm       77          81                  68  
10pm     72          78                  87  
11pm     71          76                  86  
Mid       70          75                  89  

10:41 PM  (91 precincts left to count), by hand? or installing a pre-programmed PROM? (which added another 9,451 votes for Schmidt, compared to just 6,300 or so for Hackett. (The BASE)
--------------------------------------------------
08/02/05, 10:49:17 PM    (8 minutes later)                   
Special General 2005    Clermont County Board of Elections Official report.                   
Representative to Congress 2nd District 191 of 191 Precincts Reporting                       
    Early Voting    Election Day    Provisional    Total    Percentage   
JEAN SCHMIDT     1158    16162    0    17320    58.09%   
PAUL HACKETT     750    11689    0    12439    41.72%   
Write In Votes     3    56    0    59    0.20%   
Total Votes Cast     1911    27907    0    29818    100.00%   
--------------------------------------------------
On 8-03-05 for 08-02-05 10:54:01 PM UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SPECIAL ELECTION HAMILTON COUNTY, OH
PRC CNT - TOTAL -776- 776 100.00%
Registered Voters - TOTAL 470858
Registered Voters - 2ND CONG DIST 456161
Ballots Cast - TOTAL 119814 25.45%
Ballots Cast - 2ND CONG DIST 114296 25.06%
PRC CNT - 2ND CONG -753- 753 100.00%
PRC CNT - ADAMS CO.   -35- 35 100.00%
PRC CNT - BROWN CO.  -35- 35 100.00%
PRC CNT - CLERMONT CO. -191- 191 100.00%
PRC CNT - HAMILTON CO.  -342- 342 100.00%
PRC CNT - PIKE CO.       -24- 24 100.00%
PRC CNT - SCIOTO CO.  -70- 70 100.00%
PRC CNT - WARREN CO. -79- 79 100.00%
* 2ND CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES *
REP TO CONGRESS - 2ND DIST DEM - PAUL HACKETT 55151 48.25% REP - JEAN SCHMIDT 59132 51.74%
Just enough spread not to require a recount.

This is just ludicrous.
Time to call in the lawyers.   

by Beetlejuice on Thu Aug 04, 2005 at 05:13:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Sorry, but.. (none / 0)

"We were close. Still, great job everyone. If we do this nationally in 2006, well then....'

Well then, if this happens nationally the repubs dream of 250 House GOP'ers and 60 Senate Republicans will be within reach.

Winners win, losers spin.

by dualdiagnosis on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 02:08:15 AM EST

Oh, he'll win in 2006, will he? (3.00 / 1)

Bullshit.  We have a monumental stupidity problem in this country, and I don't expect it to magically disappear by 2006.  Hackett will be steamrolled if he runs.  The citizens of the world's only Stupidpower will reward Schmidt's utter mediocrity, hypocrisy, and corruption with a 60% re-elect in 2006.  Don't believe it?  Guess we'll have to wait and see.  Don't bet me anything you can't afford to lose.

The blogosphere is full of happytalk tonight about the OH-02 race.  I completely fail to see why there is anything to be happy about.  We run a fantastic candidate, and he gets run over by some sleazy, lying bag of shit not worthy of changing George Bush's diaper, and that's something to be happy about?  Jesus Fucking Christ, wake UP.

The message I get from this race is this: 2006 will be a monumental train wreck with more Republican gains in both the House and Senate.

by Anne64 on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 02:20:30 AM EST

How Shocking! (none / 0)

No, not Hackett almost winning, I mean Bowers writing "Fuck!"

It is truly a new day dawning in America.

by peterbernard on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 10:30:02 AM EST

Anne64 is right! (none / 0)

"The voters of the district responded the way they have so many times in the past - by sending a proven conservative to represent them in Congress,"  Schmidt said.

I agree with Anne64.  This is no victory.  This is one of the most appealing democratic candidates I have ever seen, and the fact that he lost, albiet by a small margin, shows how entrenched the Banana Republican Party is in Ohio.  Sadly, it is that way here in Indiana as well.  There are just too many voters who cannot or will not get the facts so they can make an informed choice, and I don't see that changing in a year.

All that being said, it seems odd that Paul would do better in rural precincts than in the cities.  

I smell a rat.

by indianabob on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 02:49:04 PM EST

More like this (none / 0)

I think we should support and encourage a fight for Rep. Christopher Cox's vacated seat in California to keep our momentum going. It seems almost a the news I hear coming out of this race is about the republicans, and that it is assumed a Republican will win. Now this district is not nearly as partisan as Ohio 2, so, if Ohio is a sign of things to come, we should be able to scare the republican establishment's pants off.
by swimmercrat on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 05:37:43 PM EST

This has been a colossal victory for the netroots. (none / 0)

The netroots keep winning the "colossal victories", and the Republicans keep winning the elections. The level of denial is overwhelming. We lost, and have been losing almost continuously since 1992. Suck it up and deal with reality.
by RosalieTotsy on Thu Aug 04, 2005 at 01:24:40 PM EST


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