Ohio 02 Results ElectionThread IV

by Jerome Armstrong, Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:18:06 PM EST

It's tied 50-50 percent, with 870 votes separating Hackett from the lead. And all that's left is the 91 Precincts in Clermont County.

So close...

Updates (Chirs):

  • The reason the 91 precints have not reported in Clermont County has to do with problems with the voting machines there. They are being counted by hand. Stay tuned. Gather everything you can about voting "irregularities" in the district. Be ready to use the f-word, and I'm not talking about "fuck."




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Look at the votes for the LEVIES (2.75 / 4)


The Three Rivers School Levy is back on the ballot. An earlier levy was defeated in November.

In Warren County, the Franklin School levy is once again on the ballot.

Voters have turned that levy down in seven previous elections.

Also in Warren County's Harlan Towship, the fire levy is up for renewal.

And in Butler County, voters will decide on the Edgewood School levy. Voters turned down a previous levy in May.

Every single levy on the ballot passed this time. What are the chances the majority of Repubs voted for levies they voted DOWN in November?

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by Maryscott OConnor on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:19:28 PM EST

Re: Look at the votes for the LEVIES (none / 0)

Damned good question, MaryScott.  I noticed that, too.

If there's a recount, let's flood the district with volunteers and detectives, and get to the bottom of any foul play.  With only one precinct to concentrate on, it should be easier than in 2004.

by jonweasel on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:21:28 PM EST
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Re: Look at the votes for the LEVIES (none / 0)

Whoa. That's really interesting - hopefully we'll get more votes from clermont.
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by nwprogressive on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:22:26 PM EST
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Re: Look at the votes for the LEVIES (none / 0)

Nice catch.
by space on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:24:13 PM EST
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Re: I wouldn't get excited (none / 0)

The areas with those levies comprise 67 precincts, less than 10 percent of the OH-2.  I don't know which areas those precincts are in.   Hackett carreid two counties 65-35 and 63-37 and lost one 42-58.  

It is possible to lose without fraud.  

Worse than fraud is yelling about fraud and none emerging.   Advice to "Google" and "research" to Internet users is akin to crying "Yankees, Miss Scarlett, Yankees!  And I don't know nuffin' 'bout birthin' no babie!"

If there is fraud, evidence will have to be gathered on the ground with information from the polling places and the vote tabulation centers.   You build the case first, not run off half-cocked.

by InigoMontoya on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:01:51 PM EST
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Was hoping for more... (none / 0)

...but even if Hackett loses by such an incredibly small margin, we fought the GOP to a draw on their territory.  I'd be worried, if I were they.

Now, we need to concentrate all our efforts on detecting fraud.  Since it's one precinct, it should be much easier to focus on finding any shenanigans than on the entire state.

by jonweasel on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:20:19 PM EST

Overcoming that margin..... (none / 0)

... in Clermont is going to take some amount of luck. I raise my glass to you Maj. Paul Hackett.

by crazymoloch on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:22:50 PM EST

Clermont Co. Results (none / 0)

The Clermont County election results have not changed since 9:30.  Why?

by Marie Smith on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:22:51 PM EST

good question (none / 0)


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by annatopia on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:23:52 PM EST
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humidity (none / 0)


by aiko on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:30:14 PM EST
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ah, bummer (none / 0)

i was hoping we could pull it out.  is there no way at this point for hackett to win it?

but you know, it was a good fight. and a "tidal" change, one might say.

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by annatopia on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:22:51 PM EST

Re: ah, bummer (none / 0)

Hackett could win, but it's not likely. Clermont still has to report in...it's taking a long time for their precincts to report, for some reason.
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by nwprogressive on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:26:27 PM EST
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Re: ah, bummer (none / 0)

The fact that is this close was "unlikely" remember.
by Houston on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:39:01 PM EST
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Local Info (3.00 / 4)


I had to register because I'm sick of all the speculation with no local commentary.

  1. It was reported on the news at 10 that Clermont was slow becuase of the extreme humidity causing the ballots to stick. That report was from a Republican at the Schmidt camp.

  2. :( Clermont is republican, Nascar loving, pork rinds and all. There is little chance of a liberal oasis coming out to vote, but keep your fingers crossed.

  3. Everyone who's been posting how Hamilton County voted in the past, remember that District 2 is less than half of the county. It has one of the more liberal areas, but also on of the top ten largest Bush donation areas in the country (Indian Hill) ((Ironically, where Paul lives)).

  4. At about 10:10, Paul was still at home and had yet to show up at the "party." I only caught the tail of of the Schmidt "party" live coverage. General just people screaming in the background

ps
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by shadixpn on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:24:00 PM EST

Thanks! (none / 0)

More, please!

(Is there pie?)

by Paul Rosenberg on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:27:03 PM EST
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Re: Local Info (none / 0)

Thanks! Will update my site with that info.
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by nwprogressive on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:29:00 PM EST
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Re: Local Info (none / 0)

Update:

Fox 19 is reporting that Clermont is hand-counting votes due to the humidity causing ballots to stick....They actually used the words "Voting Irregularities."

The reporter at the Hackett camp said there was reports Paul was coming to concede, but changed his plans once the Clermont news came out. I find this highly unlikely, but that's what they said.

by shadixpn on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:33:51 PM EST
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Re: Local Info (none / 0)

coming to concede? Nonsense, Hackett should request a full-recount!
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by NeoLiberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:36:36 PM EST
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Re: Local Info (3.00 / 1)

No Democrat should EVER concede while votes are STILL BEING COUNTED the first time, especially in a race as tight as this one.
by Blogesque on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:39:09 PM EST
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Lost Precincts (none / 0)

Any info on which precincts haven't been counted?
Has Batavia been counted?
Does it matter which precincts haven't been counted or is the county pretty homogenous as far as voting patterns?
by adamterando on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:49:36 PM EST
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Eh (none / 0)

"No matter what happens, we already have our candidate of OH-02 in 2006. "

No, he said he is going back to Iraq if he loses. :(

by coyotepretty on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:24:48 PM EST

Re: Eh (3.00 / 1)

That does not necessarily take him out of the running, or necessarily preclude his campaigning for the seat next year.

First, his next tour will not necessarily be longer than a year (August to November is more than a year).

Second, he has apparatus in place, name recognition to beat the band, and lots of experience under his belt.

Third, going back will further solidify his reputation and credibility as a stand-up, straight-talking DOER, rather than kvetcher.

by RedDan on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:28:30 PM EST
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MSNBC carries story (none / 0)

First Mainstream news story is behind the times:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8802959/

by Alunan on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:25:56 PM EST

Ohio Revised Code, Automatic Recount Law (none / 0)

I carried this over from the previous thread. If you've already seen this, sorry for the duplicate post.

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LINK

[§ 3515.01.1] § 3515.011. Recount in certain close elections.

If the number of votes cast in any county or municipal election for the declared winning nominee, candidate, question, or issue does not exceed the number of votes cast for the declared defeated nominee, candidate, question, or issue by a margin of one-half of one per cent or more of the total vote, the appropriate board of elections shall order a recount which shall be conducted as provided in sections 3515.04 and 3515.05 of the Revised Code.

If the number of votes cast in any district election for the declared winning nominee, candidate, question, or issue does not exceed the number of votes cast for the declared defeated nominee, candidate, question, or issue by a margin of one-half of one per cent or more of the total vote, the secretary of state shall order a recount which shall be conducted as provided in sections 3515.04 and 3515.05 of the Revised Code.

If the number of votes cast in any statewide election for the declared winning nominee, candidate, question, or issue does not exceed the number of votes cast for the declared defeated nominee, candidate, question, or issue by a margin of one-fourth of one percent or more of the total vote, the secretary of state shall order a recount which shall be conducted as provided in sections 3515.04 and 3515.05 of the Revised Code.

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Based on WCPO's current 50/50 numbers (662 precincts of 753 reporting), there are 98,492 votes. Based on that number, half of one percent is 492 votes. The current split is, again according to WCPO, 870 votes.

This is a real nailbiter...

by Blogesque on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:26:06 PM EST

Re: Ohio Revised Code, Automatic Recount Law (none / 0)

So...exactly how close does the vote have to be to trigger an automatic recount? Can a candidate request a recount?
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by nwprogressive on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:27:49 PM EST
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Re: Ohio Revised Code, Automatic Recount Law (none / 0)

I think it was .25% margin in 2004 Gen. Elec, but am not sure.

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by NeoLiberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:29:58 PM EST
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Re: Ohio Revised Code, Automatic Recount Law (none / 0)

quoting from redstate

>>>
    If the margin of victory of the nominee, candidate, or issue is less than one-half of one percent of the vote, section 3515.011 of the Revised Code triggers an automatic recount in all county, municipal, and district elections. An even slimmer margin --one-fourth of one percent--triggers an automatic recount in a statewide election.

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/ebook/part5/procedures_recount01.html

Currently at 0.88%.
>>>>

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by NeoLiberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:32:24 PM EST
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Read the post. (none / 0)

A margin of less than half a percent (490 votes by the current tally, probably more like 600-800 votes in the final tally) automatically triggers a recount.

I do not know if a candidate can request a recount.

by RedDan on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:30:25 PM EST
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Re: Read the post. (none / 0)

oops, didn't read your post :)

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by NeoLiberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:33:07 PM EST
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Probably The Same As Presidential Election (none / 0)

Meaning you've got to pay for it.

Could be worth it, though, if there are some obviously hinky numbers, as there were in certain Ohio precincts last November.

by Paul Rosenberg on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:35:01 PM EST
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Re: Ohio Revised Code, Automatic Recount Law (none / 0)

Yes, a candidate may request a recount. According to ORC 3515.01:

Any person who was a candidate at a general, special, or primary election for election to an office or position who was not declared elected may file with the board of a county a written application for a recount of the votes cast at such election in any precinct in such county for all candidates for election to such office or position.

There's a 5-day window to file, and there's a cost involved, which is apparently set by the county boards of election.

by Blogesque on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:32:52 PM EST
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2004 (officially declared) totals in Clermont (none / 0)

OH, Clermont    
# precincts: 191
Bush: 61694
Kerry: 25318
Nader: 0
Other: 1189

To overcome the current deficit of 800 with 91 out of 191 prec. to go, is still possible, if the turnout was high.

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by NeoLiberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:29:01 PM EST

Clermont page dead? (none / 0)

I reloaded http://www.clermontelections.org/default.php?section=results&topic=current and got a message saying "Service Unavailable".
--Goobergunch
by Goobergunch on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:29:38 PM EST

clermont election site DOWN (none / 0)

just went offline.  note FTR, at 10:29pm local time.

"service unavailable"

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by annatopia on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:29:47 PM EST

Clermont county website (none / 0)

says service unavailable.

What's going on?

by 808yankee on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:30:46 PM EST

The page's probably overloaded (n/t) (none / 0)


by Arkhangel on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:31:10 PM EST

Re: The page's probably overloaded (n/t) (none / 0)

Does this mean Skynet has taken over?
by Sam Loomis on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:35:57 PM EST
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how close (none / 0)

0.5% or the candidate requesting the recount or 5 voters.

So a recount could be eaisly done. Be best for an auto recount though.

the recount themselves are along these lines :

3% of precints selected at random are counted by hand and machine. If they dont match, it triggers a full 100% hand recount.

97% of the precincts are re-machine counted. If any of those recounts dont match - they get hand counted.

of course this is all bullshit because in 2004 it was mostly ignored.

by Pounder on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:33:21 PM EST

Yes, But This Time We Don't Have To Fight John (none / 0)

Kerry

Something tells me that Hackett knows who the real enemy is here.

by Paul Rosenberg on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:37:07 PM EST
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Hackett's gone through worse (none / 0)

FWIW, US dead in Iraq are now 1806 including 1 full Colonel, 5 Lt. Colonels, and 10 majors.  Hackett, of course , is a major.  Total casualties for the Coalition of the Willing are an even 2000.  About half of the non-US dead are british.  Italy is third at 27.

Nerve racking yes but a whole lot safer.

Hackett is doing better on the live count in Clermont than in the absentees .  Schmidt got 60% of the absentees and 55% of the regular ballots.

Wikipedia ia clueless as to the origin of the County's name.  My guess is, being on the Ohio River, that it was named for Robert Fulton's steamboat, the Clermont.  Anybody actually know?

by David Kowalski on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:35:04 PM EST

Allegedly the 91 left in Clermont (none / 0)

May be being handcounted now because of humidity (?) which is why no numbers yet.
by Fro on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:35:53 PM EST

Humidity (none / 0)

In case anyone is wondering, the humidity issue is a pretty common problem.  I've seen this in a lot of elections at this time of year.
by Politicalhack06 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:35:55 PM EST

election results (none / 0)

partial results of Clermont here:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050802/NEWS01/308020014

by Majority Report on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:36:00 PM EST

Well... (none / 0)

I'm not so sure they stole this one. If they did, they wouldn't make it so nailbitingly close. That would be humiliating.

So maybe it's a fair result.

However, what the fuck are they doing in Clermont County? No more precincts, and it's been like an hour.

by raginillinoian on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:36:22 PM EST

For Chris (none / 0)

You asked for the provisional count breakdown in Ohio 2.  Here they are: :

    * "Hamilton County has sorted through almost 13,000 of its [13,976] provisional ballots, Williams said. He hasn't totaled those rejected but said he expects 20 percent to 30 percent to ultimately be found invalid.

      The elections staff expects to finish checking provisional ballots by Friday. Starting Monday, bipartisan teams will inspect each ballot for "pregnant'' and "hanging chads'' as well as torn ballots and other irregularities. Tuesday evening or Wednesday, the regular and provisional ballots will be fed through the punch-card-counting machine for the official count. The elections board will meet after Thanksgiving weekend to officially certify the ballot." (Enquirer, 11/17/04)

    * Based on stories in the Enquirer and Post, Hamilton County unofficially rejected about 3,000 of its 13,976 provisional ballots. The results are reportedly to be Bush +6,765, Kerry +8,543

And Clermont :

:

    * According to elections officials, 1,479 provisional ballots were okayed out of 1,840 cast. The results are Bush +1,252, Kerry +567. BOE officials had no explanation for why their Nov. 2 result numbers are not the same as those reported by the Sect. of State.

You can find the rest of the results in the link at the top.

by sgilman on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:38:18 PM EST

Ok this is the source of the 14,000 Hamilton... (none / 0)

...provisional ballots.  These ballots are from the 2004 election, not this one.  Keep that in mind everybody.
by Geotpf on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:05:27 AM EST
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You're right (none / 0)

I should have clarified.  Chris asked for the provisional totals in the 04 election for Ohio 2 over at dKos.
by sgilman on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 12:13:51 AM EST
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According to (none / 0)

The Mad Wombat

"91 precincts in Claremont County left, a county which has so far voted 56% to 44% for Schmidt."

"If the same number of people vote, per precinct, for the last 91 as in the first 100, here is what we're looking at:

Total Voters in the last 91 precincts: 10,995
Current Margin: 870
Necessary margin for Hackett to win in the remaining 91 precincts: 5933 vs. 5062 or 54%

Current Tally:
Schmidt (R) - 49,681 (50%)
Hackett (D) - 48,811 (50%)"

by RedDan on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:40:01 PM EST

VOTING IRREGULARITIES (none / 0)

"Just reported on local news here in Cincinnati (channel 19)that there were "voting irregularities" (*channel 19's words not mine) in Clermont & that the remaining precincts were being counted by hand.
"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=197 9490&mesg_id=1979590

by coyotepretty on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:41:06 PM EST

According to (none / 0)

The Mad Wombat

"91 precincts in Claremont County left, a county which has so far voted 56% to 44% for Schmidt."

"If the same number of people vote, per precinct, for the last 91 as in the first 100, here is what we're looking at:

Total Voters in the last 91 precincts: 10,995
Current Margin: 870
Necessary margin for Hackett to win in the remaining 91 precincts: 5933 vs. 5062 or 54%

Current Tally:
Schmidt (R) - 49,681 (50%)
Hackett (D) - 48,811 (50%)"

by RedDan on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:42:03 PM EST

91 in Clermont (none / 0)

Are they east or west precincts?  Definitely would make a difference if they were eastern I think?  Anything on this anyone?
by Demo Dan in Dayton on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:43:13 PM EST

I'm still drinking to Hackett's VICTORY (none / 0)

YOU know what?  Every other damn county and district there was a supposed blowout for Schmidt 4 hours ago.

So fuck it! hic Ahhhhhhhhh'mmmmmmmmmm waaaaaaitin' fadadamn conscession speech from Fugly Schmidt.  Bitch... I wanna see you concede now......hic

On more crown'n'coke won't hurt... this one's for Howard!

by teknofyl on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:43:24 PM EST

I'm still drinking to Hackett's VICTORY (none / 0)

YOU know what?  Every other damn county and district there was a supposed blowout for Schmidt 4 hours ago.

So fuck it! hic Ahhhhhhhhh'mmmmmmmmmm waaaaaaitin' fadadamn conscession speech from Fugly Schmidt.  Bitch... I wanna see you concede now......hic

On more crown'n'coke won't hurt... this one's for Howard!

by teknofyl on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:45:19 PM EST

Recount is reasonable (none / 0)

Republicans have no right to complain about recounts considering the crap with Rossi in the WA govenorship that took like 6 monthes. it should be requested considering what is happening here.
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by Liberal on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:45:33 PM EST

Fraud in Clermont (none / 0)

In a 50-50 race, the last county reporting, after a huge time gap, is the Republican stronghold.  They blame the delay on the WEATHER (which can't be too different from the other counties) and their website goes offline before they finish the count.

Does anybody DOUBT that something's rotten in Clermont?

Hackett must have observers there, and I hope they're taking notes.  We need to be ready for rapid reaction to any hints of what the GOP pulled tonight.

The Clermont County Board of Elections has to go under the microscope, starting NOW.

by agitprops on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:47:30 PM EST

Thanks to all (3.00 / 1)

 First time post on mydd.com.  My friend is the assistant financial director for Hackett and for the past week or so has been calling me to do "opposition research".  I simply checked the blogs and forwarded the info, they loved it down there so thanks for all the comments from everyone.  Even though my friend is currently at the Hackett party, she is again calling me for the numbers and info, I second the notion that mydd has the best election coverage.
  On a seperate note, looking at the official OH-02 map, there seem to be parts of Clermont county (western side) that seem to urban.  Would it be fair to assume that the more densly populated a precinct is, the longer it will take to count the votes, those leaving the stragler precincts in a more Democratic demographic?  More importantly, can anyone tell me how 50% of a county reports at the exact same time, and how the other half sits around waiting?
PS does anyone have more details on those "voting iregularities?
Next Generation Democrats
by Pitin on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:49:13 PM EST

Clermont back up (3.00 / 1)

JEAN SCHMIDT     1158    16162    0    17320    58.09%
PAUL HACKETT     750    11689    0    12439    41.72%
Write In Votes     3    56    0    59    0.20%
Total Votes Cast     1911    27907    0    29818    100.00%
by Blogesque on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:50:58 PM EST

IT IS UP AGAIN (none / 0)

http://www.clermontelections.org/default.php?section=results&topic=current

It looks like the bitch won.

by deanlumcon on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:51:24 PM EST

Utter BS (none / 0)

She got 90% of the remaining votes? How does that happen?
by Alunan on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:54:27 PM EST

Your Math? (none / 0)

Are you confusing county results with the OH-02 results overall?
by Teaser on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:00:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: No she didn't. JFC. (none / 0)

The deltas from the last reported votes when the count stalled at 662 precincts were 5,590 for Hackett, 13,883 for Schmidt...Schmidt getting 60 percent of that last clump.  Considering that she carried Clermont county 58-42 over all, this is not particularly surprising or worthy of a raised eyebrow.
by InigoMontoya on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:09:24 PM EST
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Re: Hackett could have split Clermont 50-50... (none / 0)

...and he still would have lost by 1,500 votes.

Damn, damn, damn.  This is pretty bittersweet.  Losing sucks.  But I think it augurs well for Dems nationally, Dems in Ohio, and for Hackett in his next run.

by InigoMontoya on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:12:33 PM EST
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Daily Show! (none / 0)

30 minute smoke break!
by teknofyl on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:06:09 PM EST

Are there any consequences to Schmidt's (none / 0)

election code violations?
by roses on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:10:34 PM EST

Final Clermont results - 191/191 in (none / 0)

Schmidt 17320
Hackett 12439

Which would make final results in the district:

Schmidt 59095
Hackett 55091

and we'd lose by 4004 votes, or 3.51% of the total. :(

--Goobergunch
by Goobergunch on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:10:39 PM EST

What about other counties? (none / 0)

Warren county is the county that Hackett lost the most in. That's the county with the supposed "terrorist threat" in 2004 where they sealed off the vote counting from all reporters. Anyone know how the counting went there this time around?
by BenRMac on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:12:38 PM EST

Thanks to all (none / 0)

 First time post on mydd.com.  My friend is the assistant financial director for Hackett and for the past week or so has been calling me to do "opposition research".  I simply checked the blogs and forwarded the info, they loved it down there so thanks for all the comments from everyone.  Even though my friend is currently at the Hackett party, she is again calling me for the numbers and info, I second the notion that mydd has the best election coverage.
  More importantly, can anyone tell me how 50% of a county reports at the exact same time, and how the other half sits around waiting?
PS does anyone have more details on those "voting iregularities?
Next Generation Democrats
by Pitin on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:43:54 PM EST

Is breaking election laws relevant? (none / 0)

I don't know if it means anything, but to me it was a big deal when I read it at DU.  Since someone took video of Schmidt campaigning inside the 100' perimeter at a polling place at least there is evidence.  The poll worker asked her to stop and she refused and continued to ask people for their votes while they were waiting in line.

I read it here and am spreading this incredible arrogant dismissal of election laws:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4246421

by sunnystarr on Wed Aug 03, 2005 at 10:45:42 AM EST

OH-01 (none / 0)

Greetings,
While I'm happy that Paul Hackett did so well I'm NOT C-E-L-E-B-R-A-T-I-N-G. We was robbed...again.
Check out Billmon 8-03-05  (too close for comfort) here on past election irregularities in Clermont, Warren, and Butler Counties.

Swing State Project 8-02-05
SSP UPDATE (7:39): via SSP: "56 precincts of 753 reporting PAUL HACKETT 6,562 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 6,276 49%
SSP UPDATE (8:12): WCPO: 305 precincts of 753 reporting  PAUL HACKETT 23,957 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 22,846 49%
SSP UPDATE (8:40) 56 precincts of 753 reporting PAUL HACKETT 6,562 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 6,276 49%
08:51 PM 175 precincts of 753 reporting PAUL HACKETT 13,512 51% JEAN SCHMIDT 12,802 49%
SSP UPDATE (9:06) 259 precincts reporting of 753 -- Paul Hackett 52.18% to 47.81%
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09:07 PM UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SPECIAL ELECTION HAMILTON COUNTY, OH
PRC CNT - TOTAL  -776 - 250  32.22%
Registered Voters - TOTAL 470858
Registered Voters - 2ND CONG DIST 456161
Ballots Cast -- TOTAL  36252  7.70%
Ballots Cast - 2ND CONG DIST  35540      7.79%
PRC CNT - 2ND CONG  -753 -- 245          32.54%
PRC CNT - ADAMS CO.    --35   - 12          34.29%
PRC CNT - BROWN CO.    --35  - 18   51    .43%
* PRC CNT - CLERMONT CO.  (--191 -- 0     0.00%)
PRC CNT - HAMILTON CO.   --342 - 97  28.36%
PRC CNT - PIKE CO.                    --24 -12   50.00%
PRC CNT - SCIOTO CO.               --70 -50   71.43%
PRC CNT - WARREN CO.             --79 -61  77.22%
DEM - PAUL HACKETT 18476  51.99%  REP - JEAN SCHMIDT 17064  48.01%
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Check out the time line. Everybody is on the board by 09:07 PM via UNOFFICIAL RESULTS  HAMILTON COUNTY, OH
EXCEPT PRC CNT - CLERMONT CO.  -191 -0    -0.00%

09:08 PM -195 of 753 precincts Hackett 52% 15,154 - Schmidt 48% 14,008
SSP UPDATE (9:13PM) -305 precincts of 753 Hackett leads 51% 23,957 - Schmidt 49% 22,846
SSP 9:30 PM -305/735 Hackett 23,957 51% - Schmidt 22,846 49%
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SSP 10:25 PM  91 precincts remaining out of 191 in Clermont County is all that's left. Paul is down 800 votes.

NOTE! 10:29 PM Clermont County Board of Elections www.clermontelections.org/Message: Internet Service Unavailable

Counting was delayed due to humidity said an election official- in a freeking air-conditioned building?
I checked and Accuweather says for Batavia, Ohio 20 miles away.  
Time Temp (° F) RealFeel (° F) Rel Hum.
Noon     91          98                  41
1pm       92        104                  35
2pm       94        105                  35  
3pm       93          98                  36
4pm       95          97                  33
5pm       90          94                  46
6pm       92          91                  36  
7pm       84          87                  60
8pm       79          83                  64
9pm       77          81                  68  
10pm     72          78                  87  
11pm     71          76                  86  
Mid       70          75                  89  

10:41 PM  (91 precincts left to count), by hand? or installing a pre-programmed PROM? (which added another 9,451 votes for Schmidt, compared to just 6,300 or so for Hackett. (The BASE)
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08/02/05, 10:49:17 PM    (8 minutes later)                   
Special General 2005    Clermont County Board of Elections Official report.                   
Representative to Congress 2nd District 191 of 191 Precincts Reporting                       
    Early Voting    Election Day    Provisional    Total    Percentage   
JEAN SCHMIDT     1158    16162    0    17320    58.09%   
PAUL HACKETT     750    11689    0    12439    41.72%   
Write In Votes     3    56    0    59    0.20%   
Total Votes Cast     1911    27907    0    29818    100.00%   
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On 8-03-05 for 08-02-05 10:54:01 PM UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SPECIAL ELECTION HAMILTON COUNTY, OH
PRC CNT - TOTAL -776- 776 100.00%
Registered Voters - TOTAL 470858
Registered Voters - 2ND CONG DIST 456161
Ballots Cast - TOTAL 119814 25.45%
Ballots Cast - 2ND CONG DIST 114296 25.06%
PRC CNT - 2ND CONG -753- 753 100.00%
PRC CNT - ADAMS CO.   -35- 35 100.00%
PRC CNT - BROWN CO.  -35- 35 100.00%
PRC CNT - CLERMONT CO. -191- 191 100.00%
PRC CNT - HAMILTON CO.  -342- 342 100.00%
PRC CNT - PIKE CO.       -24- 24 100.00%
PRC CNT - SCIOTO CO.  -70- 70 100.00%
PRC CNT - WARREN CO. -79- 79 100.00%
* 2ND CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES *
REP TO CONGRESS - 2ND DIST DEM - PAUL HACKETT 55151 48.25% REP - JEAN SCHMIDT 59132 51.74%
Just enough spread not to require a recount.

This is just ludicrous.
Time to call in the lawyers.   

by Beetlejuice on Thu Aug 04, 2005 at 04:51:46 AM EST


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