Find out about Clermont County

Clermont County might be the key to the Hackett--Schmidt election. Find out whatever you can about their voting machines. Do it here. Do it now.

Update: Thanks everyone, but its over now. The concession has been made. We'll get 'em in 2006.



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ES &S (3.00 / 1)

Seems to be optical scan central count es&s machines
http://verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?topic_string=5std&state=ohio&county=Clermont
by ruralvoter on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:45:21 PM EST

Re: ES &S (3.00 / 1)

Yes, central count (not precinct-based count) op-scan in Clermont.  I list all the OH-2 counties' voting machines here.  New machines being considered are probably for future elections, I believe.
by joan reports on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:02:37 PM EST
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May 2005 article when they were choosing vendor (none / 0)

Just found this article from May in which Clermont sued Blackwell for more time in deciding on a voting system, "between optical-scan voting systems by ES&S or Texas-based Diebold Elections Systems"

Hope this helps.

by Lis Riba on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:46:08 PM EST

Commissioner's Journal from 17 May 2005 (none / 0)

is at http://bcc.co.clermont.oh.us/pdf/minutes/2005/05-17-05WS.pdf

Issue #2 is the voting machine choice.

--Goobergunch
by Goobergunch on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:53:50 PM EST
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Take It For What It's Worth .... (none / 0)

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:llkDdp-xoVoJ:ohvotesuppression.blogspot.com/+clermont+county+ohi o+voting+machines&hl=en&client=firefox-a

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Several volunteer workers in the Ohio recount in Clermont County, Ohio have prepared affidavits alleging serious tampering, violations of state and federal law and possible fraud. They name the Republican chief of Clermont's Board of Elections Daniel Bare and the head of the Clermont Democratic Party Priscilla O'Donnell as complicit in these acts.

These volunteers, observing the recount on behalf of the Greens, Libertarians and Democrats, assert that during the Dec. 14, 2004 hand recount they noticed stickers covering the Kerry/Edwards oval, whereas the Bush/Cheney oval seemed to be "colored in."

Some witnesses state that beneath the stickers, the Kerry/Edwards oval was selected. The opti-scan ballots were then fed into the machines after the hand recount.

Allegations of ballot tampering in Ohio - which decided the outcome of the presidential election by some 100,000 votes - find particular resonance in Clermont, one of three Ohio counties which saw the biggest increases in votes for Bush from 2000 to 2004. The other counties were Butler and Warren; Warren County had a lockdown after an alleged terror threat that the FBI later denied.
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by gregwythe on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:49:09 PM EST

We looking for 2004 irregularities? (none / 0)

"Green and Libertarian volunteers reported that in Allen, Clermont, Cuyahoga, Morrow, Hocking, Vinton, Summit, and Medina counties, 'the precincts for the 3 percent hand recount were preselected, not picked at random, as the law requires.'"

Mark Crispin Miller

by Lis Riba on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:51:19 PM EST
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Re: We looking for 2004 irregularities? (none / 0)

Just highlighting the fact that if they had problems in 2004, they may have some issues that need close inspection in the recount from this race.
by gregwythe on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:12:21 PM EST
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They appear to have scantron paper ballots (none / 0)

The FAQ on the county website mentions filling in ovals and asking the poll worker for a second ballot if mistakes are made. Hooraayy for paper trails!
link

by Jason Sawatzki on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:49:59 PM EST

Was one of the counties (none / 0)

Where Judge Connally, the african american Supreme Court candidate got more votes than Kerry.
by lcohen on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:54:01 PM EST

Schmitt campaigning within prohibited limits (none / 0)

As reported in another thread, Democratic Underground says:
caller to Sam Seder is documenting how Jean Schmidt is getting WELL within the 100 foot margin within which no signs or campaigning is permitted

the caller was GREETED PERSONALLY by Schmidt inside this perimeter

he told pollworkers about it, who asked her to leave

she refused

the caller went back and got a camera and videotaped her violating the law!

Clermont county, btw


by Lis Riba on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 09:55:39 PM EST

Re: Schmitt campaigning within prohibited limits (none / 0)

I sincerely hope they pursue action against that puke even if she does win. This kind of arrogance is why the Rs are (or should be) in trouble here in Ohio.
by comotion on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:42:44 PM EST
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2004 Irregularities in Clermont (none / 0)

From http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1353

(Emphasis w/in the story mine.)

Direct testimony: Presented to Election Assessment Hearing
by Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
July 4, 2005

Direct testimony: Presented to Election Assessment Hearing, Houston, Texas, July 29, 2005
. . .
Three counties in southwestern Ohio - Butler, Clermont and Warren - provided Bush with a combined plurality greater than his statewide margin of victory. These results, when examined at the precinct level, are almost impossible to explain. In Butler County, there were 12 precincts where, compared to 2000, voter registration increased by 34% to 178%, and entire townships where Kerry received fewer votes than Gore, despite large increases in voter turnout. In Clermont County there were 24 such precincts where Kerry received fewer votes than Gore. In Warren County there were six entire townships where voter registration increased by 28% to 79%. In all three counties, Kerry received fewer votes than Ellen Connally, a little-known, underfunded African-American municipal judge from Cleveland, running for Chief Justice. There must have been at least 13,500 voters who supported both Connally and Bush, or else the certified results are fraudulent. In these three counties, and in Delaware County as well, Bush received more votes than Issue One, the constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage. There must have been at least 10,500 supporters of gay marriage who voted for Bush, or else the certified results are fraudulent. A comparison of these counties with the voting patterns statewide indicates that as many as 50,000 votes may have been shifted from Kerry to Bush, thus affecting the margin by 100,000 votes.

by Scott Shields on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:03:42 PM EST

i emailed you a bunch of links chris (none / 0)

they are marksense type systems made by either:
diebold, ES&S, intercivic, or sequoia.

lots of links if you check your yahoo account

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by annatopia on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:06:59 PM EST

Enquirer 2/05 - FBI Investigates Clermont Voting (none / 0)

From http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050209/NEWS01/502090415/

The Cincinnati Enquirer
Wednesday, February 9, 2005

FBI checking Clermont voting
Congressman claims tampering

By Reid Forgrave
Enquirer staff writer

BATAVIA - The Federal Bureau of Investigation is interviewing members of the Clermont County Board of Elections because of a Democratic Congressman's claim of vote-tampering during the presidential election.

The allegations stem from white oval-shaped stickers, about the size of an M&M, placed on fewer than 100 ballots.

Poll workers used them on Election Day to correct mistaken votes and determine intent on the optical scan ballots. Some voters, for example, marked their vote, but also etched a small mark in the space for another candidate, which threw off the machines.

by Scott Shields on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:19:49 PM EST

Re: Enquirer 2/05 - FBI Investigates Clermont Voti (none / 0)

Vigilance always. Ratfucking may be ongoing as we speak. But I investigated Cliff Arnebeck's claim of "vote migration" in four Southwest Ohio counties including Clermont at the time and came away unimpressed. They claim is based on the supposed anomoly that C. Ellen Connally did suspiciously well in these counties, that too many people were voting for both her and Bush even though she was an African-American woman for it to be on the up and up. I wonder whether Arnebeck ever did what I did: asked Democratic leaders in the area for their explanation. They gave me some two not-convincing reasons for Connally getting the votes of Bush supporters--woman usually win judicial races in Ohio; no party ID on ballot for judicial races (but these were true for all counties)--and also some VERY CONVINCING reasons why Connally's showing was not anomolous: these fast-growing counties were hurt by a decision Connally's opponent made on school funding; and that her opponent didn't dedicated campaign resources to this area, choosing to hit her in her strongest area, Cleveland. Also it being a small enough area that church backing or a single influential "local" could have accounted for her success.
by Rick Perlstein on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:35:19 PM EST
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Pop. increases and voter registrations (none / 0)

don't correspond to correct vote numbers.

5. It has been widely reported that in Warren County, the administrative building was locked down on election night and no independent persons were allowed to observe the vote count. Based upon the official Board of Elections reports, there has been a 15.51% increase in voter registration in eight months time, and voter turnout was reportedly above 80% in 55 precincts. Since the 2000 election, voter registration was reportedly up by 79.0%, 38.3%, 32.4%, 31.0%, 29.7%, and 28.4% in six townships that provided 68.75% of Bush's margin of victory in Warren County. While the county population has increased by 14.75% since the 2000 census, 87 of 157 precincts had shown declines in voter registration at other times since the 2000 election, and yet every single precinct, 157 of 157, showed increases in voter registration since March 2, 2004. In Butler County, there are nine precincts and two entire townships where Kerry received fewer votes than Gore despite a sharp increase in voter turnout; and there are precincts with reported increases in voter registration, since November 7, 2000, of 177.9%, 143.5%, 69.3%, 65.5%, 64.5%, 48.2%, 43.3%, 38.8%, 36.9%, 34.3%, 34.0%, and 33.8%, compared to an increase in population of only 3.12% county wide. In Clermont County, where the population has grown by 4.39% since the 2000 census, voter registration was reportedly up by 85.4% and 67.6% in two precincts, and down by 49.4% in another precinct, all in the same township; there were 23 precincts where turnout was up, but Kerry got fewer votes than Gore. All these data are indications that votes may have been shifted from Kerry to Bush. According to the official results certified by the Ohio Secretary of State, these three counties combined provided Bush with a plurality of 132,685 votes, which is 13,910 votes more than his statewide plurality of 118,775 votes. Given that George Bush carried these counties by 95,575 votes in 2000, the net loss for John Kerry could be as high as 37,000 votes.

Dan Bare, the director of the Clermont County Board of Elections, refuses to reveal in person or by phone when the recount will begin in Clermont County...Other county boards of elections are revealing when the recounts will begin in their respective counties upon being asked by members of the public and representatives of the presidential campaigns.

November 2, 2004
           In several Ohio counties, Democratic candidate for State Supreme Court C. Ellen Connally receives more votes than Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (Auglaize County, Connally - 7,312, Kerry - 5,729; Brown County, Connally - 7,407, Kerry - 7,058; Clermont County, Connally - 29,464, Kerry - 25,318; Dark County, Connally - 8,817, Kerry - 6,683; Highland County, Connally - 6,119, Kerry - 6,012; Mercer County, Connally - 6,607, Kerry - 4,924; Butler County, Connally - 59,532, Kerry - 54,185; Miami County, Connally - 17,206, Kerry - 17,039). As the US House Judiciary Democrats note in a December 2 letter to Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, these results "run counter to the established principle that downballot party candidates receive far less votes than the presidential candidate of the same party." The totals also deviate significantly from the statewide trend in Ohio, where Kerry receives 48.5 percent of the vote and Connally receives 46.6 percent. Even more striking about the figures is that fact that Connally's campaign was not very well funded. The same letter, referring to the results of Butler County, comments: "[I]t appears to be wildly implausible that 5,000 voters waited in line to case a vote for an underfunded Democratic Supreme Court candidate and then declined to cast a vote for the most well-funded Democratic Presidential campaign in history." In addition to the bizarre voter numbers of the Connally and Kerry campaigns in Butler County, the results of the Republican side of those races are also hard to explain. The winning Republican candidate for the State Supreme Court receives 40,000 less votes than presidential candidate George Bush. [Source: Letter from US House Judiciary Democrats to Kenneth Blackwell, 12/2/2004]
   
by bronte17 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:29:07 PM EST

Provisional voters in 2004 (none / 0)

DailyKos just went down, but in response to your (Chris's) request, here are the numbers from 2004 (though not the results):

Hamilton County had 13,976 provisional ballots and 3,000 absentee ballots counted after Nov. 2

Hamilton County has sorted through almost 13,000 of its provisional ballots, Williams said. He hasn't totaled those rejected but said he expects 20 percent to 30 percent to ultimately be found invalid.

The county had more provisional ballots in 2000 - about 16,000 - and just 10 percent were rejected. There might be fewer provisionals this year, Williams said, because of the high-profile debate over them. Despite objections from some activist groups, Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell said counties could not count provisionals cast outside the voter's home precinct. His decision was upheld in the federal courts.


Warren County had 1,465 provisionals, finding about 22 percent were not valid.
Clermont County had 1,818 provisionals,
Butler County had 5,793.
by Lis Riba on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:34:45 PM EST

More on Schmidt and Clermont County (none / 0)

Plus, here's a neat site for plugging in raw info and receiving your precise election incident reporting information.  This is the Election Incident Reporting System.

JUNE 16, 7:30 AM Mystery Solved: Per the Enquirer (item entitled "vote glitch"):

    Schmidt's victory over former Congressman Bob McEwen was even more impressive than it first seemed.

    When all seven counties had reported their votes to the Hamilton County Board of Elections Tuesday night, Schmidt led McEwen by 705 votes. But when Hamilton County Elections Director John Williams came to work Wednesday morning, he found a second corrected version of Clermont County's final results on his fax machine.

    The new totals increased Schmidt's lead to 2,667 votes.

    Williams said Clermont County officials explained to him that one of their workers accidentally marked an earlier report with the word "final'' and sent it to the Hamilton County board, where all the county reports were being collected.

    "It was just a mistake and didn't change the result, so no harm done,'' Williams said.

To be the richest county in Cincinnati, seems that Clermont County sure has a lot of "irregularities" and oopsy mistakes.

by bronte17 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:00:14 PM EST

What's your email, Chris (none / 0)

SpinDentist from allspinzone here.  We've got a story about a Republican challenger to Santorum on the site and thought you'd be interested.  

http://www.allspinzone.com/blog/index.php?itemid=1145

by SpinDentist on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 10:37:03 AM EST


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