NC-08: Iraq Vet Dunn May Challenge Hayes

In the days leading up to the OH-02 special election, thinking about Paul Hackett's status as an Iraq War veteran, I wondered if the Iraq War would be for the modern Democratic Party what Watergate was in the seventies. In the aftermath of that scandal, a whole crop of young, idealistic Democrats were elected to Congress in a backlash against the GOP. Quickly dubbed Watergate Babies their ranks included Henry Waxman, Tom Harkin, Chris Dodd, and Paul Tsongas.

Even as Hackett was out campaigning, other Iraq vets were busy making plans for 2006 -- Patrick Murphy in the PA-08 and David Ashe in the VA-02. According to The Charlotte Observer, Tim Dunn of North Carolina may soon join their ranks, seeking to take out GOP incumbent Robin Hayes.

Democrat Tim Dunn, a lieutenant colonel in the Marine Corps Reserves, got back from Iraq late last year. A trial lawyer by profession, Dunn spent six months in Baghdad helping the Iraqi Special Tribunal investigate and begin prosecuting Saddam Hussein and other former Iraqi leaders on charges of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

"When I got back from Iraq, my intention was to go back ... But I feel now is the time for a different type of service," Dunn, 45, told the Observer over the weekend. "I am seriously interested in this race" to represent the 8th congressional district, which stretches from east Charlotte to Fort Bragg.

If Dunn jumps into the race, he would join a growing platoon of veterans from conflicts in Iraq or Afghanistan who are challenging GOP congressmen in 2006. Dunn said he'll make a decision in the next few weeks, but added, "I am a likely candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives."

Just as Paul Hackett was much more than just the "Iraq Vet" candidate, Dunn is also keen on challenging Hayes on one issue that could really damage him with local voters -- CAFTA.

In the interview with the Observer, Dunn took a political poke at Hayes for saying he would vote against CAFTA, then voting for it after a last-minute meeting with House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.

"I have a concern when our incumbent congressman told us how he was going to vote and then -- seemingly under political pressure -- changed his mind," Dunn said. "With the number of jobs lost in the 8th district -- especially in the textile industry -- I certainly think that will be an issue."

Hayes' high-profile flip-flop on CAFTA and his refusal to support a popular anti-torture measure that passed the House 415-8 has already made him a target of the DCCC. Even without an Iraq War veteran for a challenger, Hayes looks vulnerable. In 2004, he won the district 56% to 44%, even though he had a 7-to-1 fundraising advantage over his opponent, Beth Troutman. That's a far tighter margin than Paul Hackett had to overcome in the OH-02.

It's too early to say that what we're seeing is the conception of the Iraq Babies. But arrogant incumbents like Hayes make perfect targets for disciplined candidates like Dunn. And around the country, the mere fact that veterans like Hackett, Dunn, Murphy, and Ashe are returning from war to run for office as Democrats must send a powerful message to moderates that there is something very wrong with the current GOP leadership.



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% of Iraq war Vet Dems (none / 0)

Are there any Republicans running for congress who are vets, or are they all dems.
John McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a century.
by jkfp2004 on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 02:35:03 PM EST

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All Dems I think. So much for all the soldiers loving Bush.
by dole4pineapple on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 02:42:59 PM EST
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A few weeks ago, the Philly Inquirer wrote that eight vets are running for office and all but one are Democrats. As a little bit of digging shows, that's not exactly true. (Well, it might be -- I'm not sure how many of these folks are actually declared candidates, or if the parties were only listing candidates for national office.)

In WV, Hiram Lewis is seeking the GOP nomination to take on Byrd in the Senate (Capito will likely get the nod), and in TX, two Iraq vets -- Van Taylor and Bentley Nettles -- are running to challenge Chet Edwards' for his seat in the House. In PA, GOP state Sen. John Pippy served in Iraq and is seeking the nomination for Lt. Governor.

Back on our side, Tim Walz is running for the DFL nomination to unseat Gil Gutknecht in MN. In AR, North Little Rock City Attorney Paul Suskie -- a National Guard JAG officer -- is running for state Attorney General.

If I'm missing anyone, please let me know.

by Scott Shields on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 04:18:07 PM EST
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Re: % of Iraq war Vet Dems (none / 0)

Andrew Borene, who blogs over at Operation Truth, is running for Minnesota State Senate.
http://www.andrewborene.com
Future Majority / Young Philly Politics
by Alex Urevick on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 06:21:51 PM EST
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not an iraq vet but (none / 0)

Eric Massa is a veteran running for NY's 29th CD.  He spent 20+ years in the marines.
by hotshotxi on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 09:25:15 PM EST
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Taking back the House and Senate (none / 0)

It's funny how all of these Iraq war vets are Democrats. One thing that's annoying is that "study" done by Carville and Greenberg (I think that's who did it) that said that Democrats cannot hope to win white rural voters no matter how bad things get. NO DUH!!! We lose an election by 51-48, actually, a lot less since Ohio could have swung the election and suddenly we're hoplessly out of touch and need to go after voters in Mississippi and Oklahoma to win again. Reaching out to the Republican base is stupid and pointless and it will only hurt us. It just shows those guys don't have a clue. When you run two hapless and inarticulate candidates (Gore and Kerry) and lose (well, Gore actually won) narrowly, you don't need to do a DLC makeover. If the DLC had their way, we'd have compromised with Bush on private accounts because "people won't like us if we just obstruct." Washington Democrats prove time and time again that they just don't get it.
by dole4pineapple on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 02:42:14 PM EST

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Interestingly enough in the recent Ohio 2nd special Hackett kicked ass in the rural areas. From Gerry Daly's analysis:

Schmidt was trounced in the rural counties. Nationwide, Bush carried rural areas with 59% of the vote in `04 according to the exit polls, and the same was true of the least densely populated counties of district 2. Adams, Brown, Pike, and Scioto counties had a population density at or below 50 people per square kilometer according to the 2000 census, and the President took 58% of the vote in this portion of the district. There was a complete reversal in the special election, as it was the Republican Schmidt who was held to just 40% of the vote there. The change represents a 35.5-point swing, and it was relatively consistent across each of these counties, from a low of 30 points in Pike to a high of 40 points in Brown. On the list of things that went wrong for Schmidt, her performance in the less densely populated regions has to top the list.

Editor
Ohio 2nd Blog
by ignatzmouse on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 03:08:36 PM EST
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Yep, going with the urban-rural coalition is the key to winning, despite the establishment.... ask Jerry Meeks.
by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 03:29:53 PM EST
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Re: Taking back the House and Senate (none / 0)

You are exactly right.  I think that Jerry Meeks, pioneer though he seems to be, may not be alone in terms of state parties committing themselves to the rural vote.  That's good for all of us.
by Frontier PAC on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 07:00:06 PM EST
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You're kidding? Jerry is committed to winning Montgomery, Stanly, Anson, Richmond, Scotland and Hoke counties this time?

Good. Then he better get behind NC heartland candidate Larry Kissell.

Dunn's support appreciated. His little corner in Fayetteville is needed too. =)

by RANT on Sun Dec 11, 2005 at 10:42:17 AM EST
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More thoughts on taking back Congress.... (none / 0)

Has anyone noticed that ever since the Republican takeover in '94 we've never really tried to take back Congress? It seems like in every election cycle the Democrats decide there is no way to take back the House and give up early so we go into the elections with Republican wins almost assured. That's just unacceptable. Democrats are ridiculously timid because they are afraid they will lose seats if they are combative. Being combative is the only way to win back Congress and at this point, in the House, we may as well be 50 seats short of a majority because we can't do anything. It seems the Democrats have just been keeping their fingers crossed that one day, they'll get lucky and the Republicans will be swept from power. That's not going to happen without some work and hopefully they've learned that lesson going into 2006.
by dole4pineapple on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 02:54:15 PM EST

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Has anyone ever noticed, amid all their praise for John Conyers and Harry Waxman, is that are essentially reelected without opposition for 10 year  stretches? And yet these folks, and dozens of other House Dems, do absolutely nothing to help take back the House? All they do is line their pockets and offer platitudes to liberal causes.

That's all well and great, but look what's happened to my country while you where holding fake hearings.

by DaveB on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 05:39:03 PM EST
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Is this the same Tim Dunn that ran in '96? (none / 0)

See
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_detail/H6NC07063/
Want Blue States? ActBlue.
by brahn on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 01:20:48 AM EST

Re: Is this the same Tim Dunn that ran in '96? (none / 0)

Yup. Dunn ran in another district and came in 5th out of 7 in the primary. Sorry for linking to pure evil but the GOP can't wait to swiftboat this guy. He's a personal injury attorney that makes a nice side living off suing the government and defending court martials. Plus he's as pro-war as they come. Nice recruiting Washington.

His site has inexcusably been "under construction" for months without so much as a single public statement from him on anything since the summer when KOS first got all hot for another Marine Dem being pushed by the DCCC.

That alone makes him known by national netroots and consistently proclaimed the "frontrunner" by people projecting what they think Tim Dunn stands for, but in the predominantly rural district, Larry Kissell already is known and has been running hard against Hayes on things that matter to NORTH CAROLINA, like jobs and education.

Washington "strategists" think marines that helped prosecute Saddam get North Carolina working class families excited. I think they've forgotten what Democrats stand for in their rabid recruiting of anything stuffed in a uniform.

What's wrong with a regular guy like Kissell? A lifelong democrat, family man and actual resident of District 8? An educator in our schools Hayes has openly expressed such disdain for? A 25 year veteran of the textile industry that Haye's voted to destroy?

Answer is there's nothing wrong with Kissell, expect he's working for real change. Some people just don't like that. Good thing they can't vote in the 8th district. Larry will win the primary and unseat Robin Hayes. That's the buzz from the real grassroots on the ground anyway. Get ready for a surprise!

by RANT on Sun Dec 11, 2005 at 10:33:48 AM EST
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