Democratic Politburo Makes a Decree - No Primaries!

This is a crossposting from Comments From Left Field. I felt the strong Pennsylania presence here would benefit from it.

Many thanks to Mark Crispin Miller for posting the full audio of a speech given by Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) at a private party in Georgia on August 2. I have clipped out the relevant two minutes of this speech and transcribed it for everyone to see. Bottom line, Schumer admits to, in effect, a new Democratic strategy whereby he and the DSCC leadership will choose who will run against vulnerable Republicans. The case he uses is our own fight for the seat held by Rick Santorum.

Here is the audio clip in mp3 format.
"Let me tell you one other thing we did. We are no longer letting Democrats get in a circle and shoot each other. I was just in Tennessee with Harry and with (...) and we have a primary and I stood up there Harold Ford is running and he can become the first African-American elected in the south to the Senate since reconstruction which would be a great thing for America. There is this young woman whose... not so young... but a nice woman running against him but everyone says she is going to attack him."

"...(unintelligible) we are going to intervene if anyone one democrat attacks another, we're doing that in states where there are primaries. We can't afford to do it anymore. This always happens in the primaries, we would throw up the cards and see where they landed. No more, we are finding the best candidate in every one of the seats where a Republican is vulnerable."

"So I called up Governor...our number one target is Rick Santorum...let him go back to wherever he lives, Maryland, you know you heard about it, he is Pennsylvania but he tried to get exempt from the school tax there cause he lives in Maryland even though he is a registered citizen of Pennsylvania. In any case I called up the Governor of Pennsylvania, Governor Rendell, I said who is the best candidate to beat Santorum. He there is only one person who could beat him but he won't run and B you wouldn't want him to. I said why wouldn't we want him to run, he said he's pro-life. He's a deeply religious Catholic man. Bob Casey."

"I said, those days are over Ed. Yes I'm pro-choice, but we need the best candidate. We can't insist that every democrat check off 18 different issues before they get (unintelligible) we could do that, we can't anymore. And so, we persuaded, Harry using his very...Harry has amazing insights into people...and we together persuaded Bob Casey to run. A poll yesterday...national...all the polls they did...Casey 51 Santorum 40. You should see Santorum nervous and walkin on the floor."

(unintelligible)

"And we're doing this in the other states."

A couple of things worth noting here. First, Governor Rendell gave two points according to Schumer "A - he won't run and B you wouldn't want him to run." Let me repeat that, Governor Rendell said point blank to Chuck Schumer that Casey would not run and that we would not want him to run. In my opinion these two points deserve a further look.

Why would Rendell think Casey "would not run?" Well, the conventional wisdom is that Casey has never had aspirations to run for a national office. His only desire it would appear is to eventually make another run at Governor of Pennsylvania. This is all well and good but let me ask you, how good of a candidate do you think Casey will be against Rick Santorum if he had to be persuaded by Schumer and Reid to run?

Second point. Rendell recognized that Casey's pro-life stance is a problem, why do you think that is? I contend that the reason is the majority of the Democratic party is made up of women and by putting up a pro-life candidate and promising to take out any challengers the Democrats are writing off the majority of their voters.

Not only is this strategy stupid, it rings of Soviet Politburo tactics. The Democratic party leadership, or more accurately the DSCC, has decided that they know better than anyone how to win and they are going to shove their candidates down our throats like it or not.

(If you would like the entire 20 plus minute speech it can be found here courtesy of Mark Crispin Milller.)

Others talking about this story;
News Dissector
Liz at the Pennacchio campaign blog.


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Our party is finally... (none / 0)

...getting it.  It's about winning and not catering to ass clowns like you who don't know what it takes to win.

I'll be donating to the DSCC this month for the first time EVER.

Thanks for posting this!!!

by alexm on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 12:39:57 PM EST

Re: Our party is finally... (none / 0)

good... because someone is going to have to keep supporting nonsense like this...
Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 12:47:59 PM EST
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When will the Democrats learn (3.00 / 0)

Thanks for posting this. It adds nicely to the diary that I just posted, Why Santorum will win, unforturately...

The Democrats simply don't get it. As they adopt more and more right wing authoritarian tactics in their never ending efforts to poach Republican voters they invariably alienate more and more core constituencies of the pluralistic Democratic Party. this is why they have been bleeding voters for the past thirty five years. Since the mid nineties the Greens, the Libertarians and Nader Independents have grown thanks almost entirely to the DLC driving those liberals, progressives and individual rights advocates and activists out of the Democratic Party.

by aahpat on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 12:48:28 PM EST

Maryland? (none / 0)

Uhh, Santorum lives in Leesburg, Virginia, not in Maryland.  Why do I know this and Chuck Schumer doesn't?  Oh I remember now, cuz Chuck Pennacchio's campaign got people to talk about it.  Good thing we don't have to worry about pesky primaries!
Rudy Giuliani hates firefighters. And puppies.
by Fran for Dean on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 03:11:56 PM EST

Re: Maryland? (none / 0)

Funny you pointed that out. I wanted to do so in the post but decided to let everyone else, particularly those of us from PA, recognize just how out of touch Schumer actually is on their own.
Comments From Left Field
by Goose3five on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 03:58:44 PM EST
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sometimes primaries are good, sometimes bad (3.00 / 1)

when primaries are bitter and take place a few months before the general election, they are BAD (see NYC mayor, NY Gov).  When they are way in advance and sharpen a candidate in a large field of no-names GOOD (see 2004 Presidential--can you imagine 2003 Kerry geting 48% against 2004 Bush?)
by DaveB on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 05:09:08 PM EST

A real progressive (D) vs Santorum? (none / 0)

I just had an interesting conversation with the latest announced Democrat for Rick Santorum's senate seat, Alan Sandals. I like his (still beta) web page bio. His conversation was open, honest and agreeable to my decidedly left leaning values. Actually he was even critical of one of my favorite left wingers, John Conyers who is to much in the auto industry's pocket for Mr. Sandals.

Preliminarily I, as an Indepedent and a leftist, like this guy.

HERE are more of my early observations on Mr. Sandals.

by aahpat on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 07:03:44 PM EST

Re: A real progressive (D) vs Santorum? [UPDATE] (none / 0)

This morning I received a note from Alan Sandals thanking me for this leftIndependent blog post, "Alan Sandals (D) for Santorums' senate seat"

He also expressed appreciation and respect for the copious materials that I emailed to him on Sunday regarding drug war policy issues. He promised to get back to me with a detailed answer.

He visited LeftIndependent and afterward was still willing to talk to me in a respectful tone. Since I write to the left that is very encouraging.

by aahpat on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 01:06:42 PM EST
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WTF. . . (3.00 / 1)


"I said why wouldn't we want him to run, he said he's pro-life. He's a deeply religious Catholic man. Bob Casey."

What the hell is that supposed to mean?  Those of us who are pro-choice are all atheistic heathens?    Gee Bob, I'm pro-choice because I don't want poor women to die from botched, illegal procedures.  How about you?  

And Schumer's an ass.  He's been riding this "it's all abortion's fault, let's ditch it" wave since the last election. No, Chuck, your party's stars are too timid to stand up to the bullies while they grind your brethren into bloody pulp every two years. . .  

That's YOUR fault.

by bellarose on Mon Aug 15, 2005 at 09:34:02 PM EST

The Democratic Losers Club rides again (none / 0)

Yep. Wouldn't want to appeal to your base. Wouldn't be prudent. Let's keep pandering to Bush's base and  keep losing just like we have for the last fifteen years.
by Gary Boatwright on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 12:47:07 AM EST
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A Fighting Democrat (none / 0)

There's a fighting Democrat who is ready to go to the Senate and kick GOP butt.

Iraq Exit Strategy by Chuck Pennacchio

What's At Stake by Chuck Pennacchio

Check out Chuck Pennacchio. Click on contribute and join his 1776 club or give what you can.

by Gary Boatwright on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 12:55:07 AM EST

Where is the money going? (none / 0)

I'm more than a little suspicious of donating to a campaign that has trouble filing their FEC reports on time or correctly.  You would think that a candidate that touts his campaign experience would understand the importance of timely FEC filings.
by noheadspin on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 06:19:25 AM EST
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Re: Where is the money going? (none / 0)

Hey noheadspin, what exactly are we looking at here? I did a search for Casey at the same site and the numbers don't look any better.
Comments From Left Field
by Goose3five on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 10:11:36 AM EST
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Re: Where is the money going? (none / 0)

"Hey noheadspin, what exactly are we looking at here?"

 Look again, at least Casey filed a report for the second quarter.  It also didn't take the Casey campaign until the start of the 3rd quarter to file a sort of correct report for the 1st quarter.  

by noheadspin on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 12:09:13 PM EST
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This is a burning issue (none / 0)

We are so blessed to have a nine comment wonder pointing out an obscure detail that absolutely nobody cares about.

My recollection is that campaigns routinely file amended FEC reports. In fact I recall that both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Dole, in his presidential run, had terrible FEC reports. Don't many candidates end up paying fines and that's the end of it?

by Gary Boatwright on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 12:14:02 PM EST
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Re: This is a burning issue (none / 0)

Gary you may consider looking at FEC reports obscure, but I certainly don't.  I want to know who is giving to a campaign and how they are spending the money.  When I look at the Pennacchio filing for the 2nd quarter, there is no information included.  I have no problems with legitimate mistakes in a report.  I do have a problem when none is filed.
by noheadspin on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 12:42:55 PM EST
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Re: This is a burning issue (none / 0)

Is Pennacchio the only candidate who has ever missed an FEC filing? Your concern is a joke.
by Gary Boatwright on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 03:15:55 PM EST
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Re: This is a burning issue (none / 0)

Maybe there was nothing to file.  If we are worried about how little money Casey is raising relative to Santorum, what about Pennacchio? He might have a few hundred thou to his name.  Tim Tagris would know better how much $ Chris Pennacchio has.  
by DaveB on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 04:17:29 PM EST
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Re: This is a burning issue (none / 0)

"Maybe there was nothing to file."  Every candidate for office is responsible for filing FEC reports until they terminate their campaign committee.
by noheadspin on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 04:34:33 PM EST
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Re: This is a burning issue (none / 0)

Gary it would be a lot more constructive that instead of mocking posters that have a different opinion than you "We are so blessed to have a nine comment wonder pointing out an obscure detail that absolutely nobody cares about." or calling their concerns a "joke", to show some proof in your posts why you think they aren't valid points.

I live in Pennsylvania and I am very concerned about the 2006 senate race.  I want to have an open and honest discussion about the 2006 Democratic primary.  Right now I'm not real happy about any of my choices.  I don't like Bob Casey's stance on choice, and I also have a real concern about Chuck Pennacchio and Alan Sandals having the ability to run more than a vanity campaign.  I consider the inability to file any FEC reports on time, the inability to fundraise significant funds, and constant staff turnover as real concerns about a campaign's ability to be considered viable.

by noheadspin on Tue Aug 16, 2005 at 04:22:06 PM EST
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No Primaries? Follow-up (none / 0)

After posting my original piece here I thought it would be worth dropping the follow-up in for discussion.

Monday I wrote a piece entitled "Democratic Politburo Makes a Decree - No Primaries!" which stirred a great deal of sentiment from throughout the lefty blogosphere. The biggest criticism I have received about this piece regards the last two words of the headline, "No Primaries!" From KOS, MyDD, the Democratic Underground and elsewhere people have come out of the woodwork to attack the idea that what Schumer, Rendell and the DSCC have done is declare that there will be no Democratic primaries. The argument seems to be that what Schumer SAID was "We are no longer letting Democrats get in a circle and shoot each other" therefore what he meant was that he and DSCC would only step in IF and WHEN they see two Democrats attacking each other. I agree, that is what he said but I do not agree that that is what they are doing.

Let me just say briefly that I recognize this is a strategy the DSCC believes will help them win back the Senate in '06. They truly believe that if they find the right candidates and back them while avoiding heavily contended primary battles they will not only save money for the general election but they can avoid "soiling" their candidates and giving the Republicans ammunition to use against them. I respect the DSCC for at least having a plan I am just not convinced that the plan is a winner. There is no evidence that candidates who faced little to no primary fights have done better than those that fought hard for their nominations. It is my opinion that the primary process allows the candidates to prove to the electorate that they are indeed the most qualified to win the general election.

Back to Schumer's comments, right after saying "we are no longer letting Democrats get in a circle and shoot each other" Schumer brings up the Tennessee Senatorial race for Majority Leader Bill Frist's seat, where there are two Democrats vying for the nomination, Harold Ford and Rosalind Kurita. What Schumer says is the following, "(there is) a nice woman running against him but everyone says she is going to attack him." He did not say she is attacking him or that she has attacked him in the past, he says <span style="font-weight: bold;">everyone says she is going to attack him</span>. Fine, if this is the case then Schumer, Reid and the like should pack their bags and head down to Tennessee to do their best Mills Lane impression. "No rabbit punches, no hitting below the belt..." I agree with this way of officiating the race but I not sure that is what they have done. We will see.

In the race that is most important to me and they majority of my readers though things are a bit different. There is no doubt that the number one priority of every Democrat in state of Pennsylvania is to defeat Rick Santorum in '06. So it is understandable that the DSCC wants to ensure they have the best candidate to make this a reality. Unfortunately what they have done in my opinion does to guarantee anything. From my brief experience inside the Pennsylvania Democratic machine I have learned at least one thing, the person with the endorsement of the party leadership is most likely the going to win. This is not always the case but it certainly happens more often than not.

By stepping in a full year before the primary - and a month AFTER Chuck Pennacchio had declared his candidacy - and hand picking and then immediately endorsing Bob Casey Jr. what the Party leadership has done is ensure that all of the party insiders immediately got the message. Casey is the guy you will support. This means that a few thousand State Committee people got this message and therefore as a result so did any and all organizations they belong to, support, etc. Does this mean there will be no primary in the state of Pennsylvania? No, it means that there will be a primary but that the result is a foregone conclusion because any efforts made by any other candidate to gain support in the form of donations, volunteers, whatever immediately must discount those people who are either party insiders or are afraid of pissing off party insiders.

Top this off with the fact that the DSCC's own website makes absolutely no mention of any candidates other than Casey...

Race Profile

Republican Senator Rick Santorum is considered by many to be far outside the mainstream of Pennsylvania voters. Democratic strength in the Keystone State-which has voted blue in the last four presidential elections and has a Democratic governor-combined with Santorum's conservative record, make the two-term Republican a leading Democratic target in 2006.

Popular state treasurer Bob Casey Jr. is set to run for the seat, and a recent Quinnipiac poll shows him leading Santorum 50%-39%. In more bad news for Santorum, 27 percent of voters have an unfavorable view of him, while only nine percent of voters view Casey unfavorably.

Santorum's rigid and extreme views make him ripe for a challenge. Early polls suggest that Casey, who in 2004 was elected as treasurer with the most votes of any candidate in Pennsylvania history, could be the man to deliver him a defeat.

...And you can see what they are doing. Yes there will still be a primary but unless something drastic happens it will be nothing but a show.
Comments From Left Field
by Goose3five on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 09:32:09 AM EST


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