Any alternative is going to have to make do with the existing infrastructure.  

THat means that the only viable alternative is the one that is already coming on: gasoline-electric hybrid.

Given that there are many states with not a single station for ethanol or hydrogen.

Also, I'm in the camp that says there should be utterly no hand-holding.  We don't need to get into the business of subsidizing uneconomical enterprises.  America doesn't need an energy giant version of Amtrak.

The only thing that needs to be done is to tweak a few laws so it's a little harder for folks to block the building of wind turbines and solar farms.

Aside from that, the market forces should take of the rest.

But, like anything, getting the installed base into place to make it happen is the biggie.  Encouraging half-assed business ventures won't help, though.

Give it time.

The advantages of wind and solar are beginning to far outstrip their downside.

Remember, the oil industry took from the 1860s to the 1920s to really mature.

These industries are following a similar curve.  Hopefully, that curve will be a bit tighter thanks to modern ingenuity.  

As for solar, what did the republicans cut out? I have some neighbors who installed solar panels into their roofs and gained complete electrical independence. Any citizen can go solar, it's just very expensive. Did the republicans cut out solar power subsidies or something?

Personally, I prefer more nuclear reactors in the short-term while pushing far more resources into fusion which has progressed greatly in the last 15 years and promises unlimited clear energy for the entire world. I remember back in the 1980s fusion was talked about in theory without a certainty it was even possible. Now its been accomplished on a miniscule level and they still have to make it efficient on increasingly larger scales. The economic powers of the world recently agreed on building the world's first fusion reactor test site in France.

I also support Hillary's initiative for a 40 mpg automobile standard by 2012 that would cut our petroleum consumption in half, reducing our dependency on the mideast while we're trying to make fusion viable.

What we've got here is a rerun of NAFTA, NCLB, Patriot Act, Iraq Resolution, Bankruptcy Law, Corporate Tax Breaks, etc. -- Democrats selling out their party's values, platform, and voters just so they can say they helped the GOP pass something while serving corporate puppeteers in reality.

What this country needs right now more than anything is an opposition party.

The Senate version of the bill passed 92-4: with MTBE gone, I'm certain that the conference report will do just as well.

Campaign contributions produce the highest profit margin of any activity in the US (except narcotics, perhaps). You pay $1,000, you get $1 million in corporate welfare.

It helps to have circuses going like Rove and Roberts to distract the easily distracted, of course...

Everyone I know is lamenting and getting angry with oil prices. I see this as just another issue to pry away the increasingly disillusioned moderates who voted for those crooks.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna throw that alternative energy figure of the EU is installing over five times the amount of capacity per year than the US.  

you did?

oh..yeah...me too..hey....want to buy a bridge??

Trillin
http://www.mnleftyliberal.blogspot.com

Go to these companies, all of them, for about 5 million a year in contributions for 20 years. The fallacy in logic is that Oil Companies will oppose new energy resources that we can't even imagine today.

No. They will spend billion commericalizing the pure research spent by the government funding created by the projects spawned by The Apollo Alliance and create new industries and move slowly to them.

An oil free society, or nearly so, is possible in our lifetimes. Let Chine rely on oil. Let's not.

Who's going to form the 527?

More provisions. More cash. That simple.  Monster 10,000 page bill. Presto. Its like that vanity "blast your message into outer space" radio dish operating out of someone's backyard in minnesota that for 20.00 bucks a line you can send a message to pluto. More lines, more money - but the policy becomes as incoherent as that message just outside mars orbit and the benefit completely dissappears two light seconds later.

The TBS Position on the ISSUE is - let at least ONE party  embrace the cheapest,
most practical alternative - take the issue
directly to the people - incorporate the blogosphere into the national political mechanism. If we can vote out here, in 10 seconds - why can't we vote on simple energy propositions in 10 seconds especially when we're footing the bill in  three different ways?

Now, if this bill were taken to the people -
we would have cheap, renewable energy as
hot a seller as the toyota prius.

And let me tell you what - if you bought one of
those babies you're crying all the way to the bank. Even my staunch conservative pop traded in his benz for a honda v-6 hybrid.

PS It can be done better at the state level, so don't get depressed about the lack of federal money.

Now, natural gas and coal are, of course, but these two issues should be more seperated than they usually are, IMHO.

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