Pro-Privacy, Pro-Choice

It is simply not possible to reframe the discussion of reproductive rights away from its current "pro-choice" and "pro-life" discursive structure. The terms are simply way too entrenched to be replaced by any Noise Machine, no matter its size, without a decades-long effort. Further, the current pro-choice frame serves its side well. Just look at NBC polling that asks the question from the standpoint of the pro-choice frame:
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). May 12-16, 2005. N=1,005 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

"Which of the following best represents your views about abortion? The choice on abortion should be left up to the woman and her doctor. Abortion should be legal only in cases in which pregnancy results from rape or incest or when the life of the woman is at risk. OR, Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances."

	 Woman and Doctor    Rape, Incest, Life   Always Illigeal
5/05	     55 		     29 			  14
11/03	     53 		     29 			  15
1/03	     59 		     29 			  9
1/97	     60 		     26 			  11
8/96	     56 		     30 			  12
3/96	     56 		     31 			  10
12/95	     60 		     28 			  10
7/91	     60 		     31 			  8
Clearly, the pro-choice frame serves us well, and abandoning it would not only be nearly impossible, but also a huge mistake. However, after reading a couple of compelling pieces recently, I wonder if we can add a compelling element to it that would further improve on our already extant advantages, and appeal to a group of voters who we are currently not reaching.

First, Howard Dean:

I'm not advocating we change our position. I believe that a woman has a right to make up her own mind about what kind of health care she gets, and I think Democrats believe that in general. Here's the problem-and we were outmanipulated by the Republicans; there's no question about it. We have been forced into the idea of "We're going to defend abortion." I don't know anybody who thinks abortion is a good thing. I don't know anybody in either party who is pro-abortion. The issue is not whether we think abortion is a good thing. The issue is whether a woman has a right to make up her own mind about her health care, or a family has a right to make up their own mind about how their loved ones leave this world. I think the Republicans are intrusive and they invade people's personal privacy, and they don't have a right to do that.(...)

But when you talk about framing this debate the way it ought to be framed, which is "Do you want Tom DeLay and the boys to make up your mind about this, or does a woman have a right to make up her own mind about what kind of health care she gets." (...) This is an issue about who gets to make up their minds: the politicians or the individual. Democrats are for the individual. We believe in individual rights. We believe in personal freedom and personal responsibility. And that debate is one that we didn't win, because we kept being forced into the idea of defending the idea of abortion.

Dean is absolutely right. He also sounds a lot like kos:
Problem is, abortion and choice aren't core principles of the Democratic Party. Rather, things like a Right to Privacy are. And from a Right to Privacy certain things flow -- abortion rights, access to contraceptives, opposition to the Patriot Act, and freedom to worship the gods of our own choosing, or none at all.

Another example of a core Democratic principle -- equality under the law. And from that principle stem civil rights, gender equity, and gay rights. It's not that those individual issues aren't important, of course they are. It's just that they are just that -- individual issues. A party has to stand for something bigger than the sum of its parts.

We cannot change the pro-choice frame, and we wouldn't want to anyway. However, we could simply tack on "pro-privacy" to the frame. Stating that you are "pro-privacy, pro-choice" livens up a static concept within our political discourse and causes people to view the issue from another angle. Further, since the right to privacy is both something that most Americans believe in and the legal basis behind Roe, "pro-privacy" does an excellent job of expressing the basic idea as to why Roe passed, and why the majority of Americans continue to support it. In short, I think that "pro-privacy," whether alone or coupled with "pro-choice," does an excellent job of expressing the core ethical belief behind support of reproductive rights in a way that "pro-choice" cannot accomplish on its own. Best of all, it ties into other progressive beliefs about sexuality. Being pro-privacy also explains being pro-contraception, pro-sex ed, pro-decriminalization of homosexual sex, all ideas to which the theocons grassroots are opposed.

So give it a whirl, and hopefully it will sink it. If you are pro-choice, say that you are pro-choice and pro-privacy from now on. This strikes me as a far more expressive frame than just pro-choice itself, and it might just help the people around us think more like progressives.



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I never understood (3.00 / 1)

the only in cases of rape and incest people.  If you think the embryo/fetus is a person, then it is a person, why does how it was produced affect that fact?  Isn't the whole anti-abortion rights argument the claim that abortion is murder?  If it's not necessarily murder, then shouldn't it ALWAYS be left to the woman?  Ah well, I guess I never really understood the anti-abortion rights people anyway.
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by Valatan on Tue May 24, 2005 at 05:20:05 PM EST

I understand these people (3.00 / 1)

They are actually much more despicable than the "killing babies" people (an argument which I actually have some sympathy towards).

See, these people don't actually believe that abortion is "murdering babies"-because how could it sometimes be ok to murder a baby?  They want to punish the mother for being such a slut, to force her to have a baby.  But, see, in cases of rape, the mother isn't a "slut", so they don't want to punish her this way. (incest in this case is almost certainly father/ minor daughter, and therefore is rape as well by definition-we aren't talking two adults here)

by Geotpf on Tue May 24, 2005 at 08:17:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I understand these people (none / 0)

Your Incest statement is a broad generalization (not that I am abdicating incest in any form).  2 first cousins, Mother/son, brother/sister are also common form.  Yes it could be rape that is true.  However, I think the idea of seperating incest from rape in the argument is that incestual babies can be born with hideous birth defects AND can have a negative impact on future generations as it mixes into the genepool.  This is why many counties will allow first cousins to marry if they are sterilized or over 45 (Dupage in IL has traditionally been one of the most republican counties in the country.. as the local party proudly points out and they allow first cousins to marry... We found this out when my wife and I applied for a marriage license.. and no we aren't cousins to the smart asses who are dying to ask).  Sorry, pet peeve cause it reinforces the notion only men can rape or sexually harass which is BS... it may be the predominant majority of rapes (no questions or arguments there) but women are capable of it.

Your other points are dead on.  I wondered that myself at times.  

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by yitbos96bb on Wed May 25, 2005 at 12:24:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Privacy (none / 0)

I am absolutely convinced that Privacy Rights can be a major coalition builder for the party (if it ever decides to quit crossing the aisle). We should bring it up how it connects to workers rights, health care ... it touches everything. We can also advocate for requirements that companies stop sharing personal information, and that they should provide better security for it.

It's a winning issue. I've got several posts about it over at Liberal Street Fight. </blogwhoring>

by Madman in the Marketplace on Tue May 24, 2005 at 05:32:28 PM EST

Re: Privacy (none / 0)

However, let's not overlook that the notion of privacy is NOT always such a good thing. Privacy is not something fundamentally good, like equality.

Progressives do not want privacy rights trumping the interests of the state, for example, in the case of the private business owner who wishes to serve only whites at his lunch counter. We do not want privacy rights trumping the interests of the state in the case of spouses who abuse their partners, or parents who abuse their children.

The anti-abortion side rightly defines their cause in terms of compassion and equality: in their view, fetuses are persons, an oppressed minority.

On the pro-choice side, we should always define our cause in terms of compassion and equality too, not merely privacy. Because a women's health care choices - and the safety of the care she receives - should not be dependent on how wealthy she is or where she lives. Pre-Roe, any woman of means could obtain a safe abortion. Not so for poor women. They faced shame, mutilation, and death.

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by Rob in Vermont on Tue May 24, 2005 at 07:20:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Privacy (none / 0)

interesting points ...

but in every case you offer as an example a person's assertion of "privacy" is taking away another's autonomy, usually in a public place. This is exactly what the anti-choice folks are TRYING to do, but it presumes that we all recognize the fetus as a person (which they aren't, though the last trimester offers a serious grey area, a greay area that Roe deals with).

I assert privacy only as a shared value we can exploit, not as the only value.

However, you do have a point, and I will think harder on how to present my point of view.

by Madman in the Marketplace on Tue May 24, 2005 at 08:30:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Privacy (none / 0)

Denying something the right to make decisions about their medical care certainly diminishes their autonomy, but denying someone a seat at the lunch counter?  I don't think that's an autonomy issue, is it?  How about the right of a citizen to keep a private collection of machine guns, grenades, and chemical weapons?

In many cases progressives should of course be champions of privacy rights. My point is that if our political philosophy, as progressives, is a communitarian, good-government philosophy - then it seems to me that quite basic to that philosophy is the idea that privacy is not an absolute good, that sometimes - heck, often - the best interests of the community trump the private interests of individuals.
 

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by Rob in Vermont on Tue May 24, 2005 at 09:52:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Privacy (none / 0)

I mean denying someone, not something
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by Rob in Vermont on Tue May 24, 2005 at 09:54:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Privacy (none / 0)

but again, those examples are "privacy" arguments that assert that one class' rights trump another groups rights.

The source of sovereignty in our society is the individual citizen, but their rights are treated as secondary to corporations ... you make a good point, but at this point, I think privacy is a winning issue.

by Madman in the Marketplace on Tue May 24, 2005 at 10:43:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

A misconception in a previous diary... (none / 0)

It was suggested in a diary entry earlier today that the following statistic:
"43% of all american women have an abortion by the age of 45."
was misleading because "An "Abortion" is of course the expulsion of a fetus from the mother's body by natural causes or medical intervention."  Thus the 43% statistic was over-inflated because of miscarriages and stillbirths.  

This is, in fact, not true.  Here is the original article... and the article (and subsequent articles that cite this one) clearly state that these are "induced abortions" and that they "exclude miscarriages".

http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.pdf

The original source...

Jones RK, Darroch JE and Henshaw SK, Patterns in the socioeconomic characteristics of women obtaining abortions in 2000-2001, Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2002, 34(5):226-235.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3422602.html

Invest in nature
by NCDem on Tue May 24, 2005 at 05:35:53 PM EST

Re: A misconception in a previous diary... (none / 0)

I dunno. The study is based on a sample size of only about ~1200 women (they extrapolate from there). The only 43% I could find was

"Black women's high abortion rate reflects both their high pregnancy rate and the high proportion of conceptions (43%) that ended in abortion. Hispanic women had the highest pregnancy rate of all the racial and ethnic groups (132 per 1,000); one-quarter of pregnancies ended in abortion."

They also don't take into account that some women have more than one abortion since the study only covers abortions performed within a certain timeframe.

by quoi on Wed May 25, 2005 at 02:03:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: A misconception in a previous diary... (none / 0)

I saw a study that said that 89% of all studies are manipulated to serve the point of view the commissioner or person running the study is looking for.
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by yitbos96bb on Wed May 25, 2005 at 12:30:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: A misconception in a previous diary... (none / 0)

I think you misread the data.  NOWHERE in either does it say 43% have abortions by 45.  Please point out where this says that, because 43% is only coming up twice and neither have to do with what you claim.  
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by yitbos96bb on Wed May 25, 2005 at 12:44:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: A misconception in a previous diary... (none / 0)

I am VERY VERY sorry... I somehow linked to the wrong article...  Try this.  It's under the "lifetime experiences" subheading of the "Results" section.  

2nd-to last paragraph of the results section, last sentence.  Also, see table 4 in the columns for "Cumulative Abortion Rate"

https://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3002498.pdf

again... sorry for the mix-up.  

The orignial "thesis" still stands... these are not including miscarriages, as the author makes plainly clear.

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by NCDem on Wed May 25, 2005 at 04:58:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Well ahead of you. (3.00 / 3)

My wife was the moving force behind the change here in the name from the "Indiana Choice Coalition" to the "Indiana Health Access and Privacy Alliance."  The whole point is to change the conversation from JUST abortion to the whole range of privacy issues.  This is even more relevant now, in the days of the whole pharmacy debacle.  Do you really think the "security moms" around the country want their birth control pills taken away?

I wrote the following in a diary months ago, on this very issue, discussing actions we can take to make privacy a positive, rather than a negative, issue:

Judicial Appointment Hearings- Right now, because Bush has renominated a bunch of his crazy judges, we have some wonderful opportunities.  Those hearings, and particularly hearings to replace Rehnquist, will garner a lot of press.  Most of what I'm writing here is with that in mind. I believe a national conversation could be started if Democrats on the committee asked, rather than 'do you believe in a woman's right to choose,' 'do you believe the Constitution protects individual privacy,' 'do you believe the Government has a Constitutional right to listen in on conversations between a patient and a doctor,' and the big one, 'do you support overturning decisions that made it legal for a woman to take the birth control pill?'

The bad guys aren't just after Roe v. Wade.  They want Griswold too.

by dhonig on Tue May 24, 2005 at 05:38:49 PM EST

Re: Well ahead of you. (3.00 / 2)

That's very good. If it doesn't cloud the issue, we could also throw in condums. That Donahue Catholic bozo thinks condums are immoral. We don't get that message out there near loudly enough. They don't just want to stop so called partial birth abortions, they want to make birth control illegal, regardless of the method.

Let them try to draw the distinctions between which religous wingnuts are OK with condums and which ones just want to stop the morning after pill and which ones are anti-abortion after three months or whatever.

I also don't call them pro-life because they are not. They are anti-abortion, anti-family and anti-medical care for women. They favor cutting Medicaid and oppose pre-natal health care. The Pharmacists Right to Treat Women Like Dirt Act that Kerry is foolishly co-sponsoring with Santorum is another perfect example. They not only want to intrude on the medical decisions between a woman and her doctor, they want to allow a bonehead pharmacist to dictate a woman's private medical decisions.

The religious wingnuts are offensively intrusive into the most private decisions a woman and her family will ever have to make. This is a terrific issues and a terrific frame.

by Gary Boatwright on Tue May 24, 2005 at 06:19:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Well ahead of you. (3.00 / 1)

"I also don't call them pro-life because they are not. They are anti-abortion, anti-family and anti-medical care for women. They favor cutting Medicaid and oppose pre-natal health care."

Thank you for this statement.  The fact that the media conceded the "Pro-Life" term to anti-choice, anti-women, anti-sex wing-nuts drives me crazy!  I'm pro-choice and I'm pro-life.  

To anyone reading this: please don't call the Jerry Falwells and Randall Terrys of this world "Pro-Life" anymore.   They most certainly are not!

by bellarose on Tue May 24, 2005 at 07:11:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Well ahead of you. (none / 0)

I think you want to call them "anti-choice" not "anti-abortion".  There is no "pro-abortion" position.
by paperwight on Tue May 24, 2005 at 09:17:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"pro-criminalization" n/t (none / 0)


Yeah, I'm cynical.
by catastrophile on Tue May 24, 2005 at 09:53:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Well ahead of you. (none / 0)

hmmm. I'll think about that. Anti-choice doesn't sound crude enough. They objected to anti-abortion for a reason. It brands them as anti- which they are and that's the main thing.
by Gary Boatwright on Tue May 24, 2005 at 09:53:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Well ahead of you. (none / 0)

They object to anti-abortion because they want to be thought of as pro-life, which they want to define strictly as anti-abortion, anti-birth control, and anti-sex education.  I've trotted out anti-choice a few times, and the crowd it's directed at gets apoplectic.

Of course, they also lose their minds when someone really steps up as pro-life, which means that they're pro-birth control, pro-sex ed, pro-public safety net, anti-war and anti-death penalty.

by paperwight on Wed May 25, 2005 at 10:39:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Well ahead of you. (none / 0)

I'm not sure that burying the abortion issue under the larger issue of privacy is going to help the Democratic Party answer the one question the is on the hearts and minds of everyone who is on the fence: namely, 'is abortion murder'?  Followed by my favorite question:
"Does a woman have total control over the fetus is half of the DNA belongs to someone else? "
Finally, my last question as always is this:" If  this is about a woman and her body, then why can she legally sue for child support. once the child is born'.
The fundamental flaw in the 'Privacy' arguement is that it's not between a woman and her doctor. In reality, It's between the woman and the man who is the co-creator  of the fetus, who is legally responsible if it goes to term.
Lastly, all of your discussions still don't talk to the very emotional fact that no one should have the right to kill sometthing that has a heartbeat at 6 weeks and a sex at 14.
Keep abortion legal, fine. Focus your energy on making it rare, not making it acceptable.  

95/10

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by Bruticus on Thu May 26, 2005 at 10:39:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Well ahead of you. (none / 0)

The simple fact, Bruticus, is that most people don't think abortion is murder.  Period.  You may want it to be because of your particular religious beliefs, but most people don't.  If they did, they'd want to put women who had an abortion on trial.  And they wouldn't agree to the exception for rape and incest.  And shockingly enough, even people who say they think abortion is murder often rethink that when it's them or their daughter who's pregnant.  Just ask people who have worked at Planned Parenthood clinics and have given abortions to the women they've seen on the picket lines outside.

If you make something morally unacceptable (as you want to), you're on the path to making it illegal.  And you know that.  And the sick thing is that the people that you're siding with want to eliminate birth control and sex ed.  So more unprepared young women will get pregnant, and will seek abortions.  Rich women will cross the border to Canada.  Poor women will die in back alleys and warehouses.  But abortions won't stop.  In all history, they've never stopped.  And there is enough legitimate debate over when an embryo becomes a human being that you'll forgive me if I decline to be governed by the most absolutist religious beliefs.

Last, the whole "daddy's DNA" thing is utter crap.  When men can decide to take a blastocyst from a woman and carry it to term in their own bodies, then, and only then, do they get a say.  Not fair?  Tough.  It's not fair that women get stuck with pregnancy.  Biology sucks.

by paperwight on Thu May 26, 2005 at 07:01:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Spotted owl (none / 0)

is waht Kos compared women's issues to.
Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Tue May 24, 2005 at 05:42:44 PM EST

Yowza !!! Stem Cell Research Bill Passes House (3.00 / 0)

YOWZA YOWZA YOWZA

Stem Cell Research, here we come.
Everyone who wants to rail on about
other stuff go right ahead.

The HOUSE
JUST PASSED A BILL FUNDING STEM CELL RESEARCH

Dig in, this is the new nuclear option. Its
a nuke aimed right at ignorance
and partisanship..

by turnerbroadcasting on Tue May 24, 2005 at 06:18:28 PM EST

Re: Yowza !!! Stem Cell Research Passes House (none / 0)

An arrow through the heart of the family haters. Does anybody have any idea what the status of this bill is in the Senate?
by Gary Boatwright on Tue May 24, 2005 at 07:16:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

privacy is good (none / 0)

The religious right is adamantly opposed to a right to privacy, which makes this a winning issue for us.  We can clearly stake out ground that stands in contrast to Republicans.
by hotshotxi on Tue May 24, 2005 at 07:11:03 PM EST

In fairness, (none / 0)

Kos sounds a lot like Dean on framing this issue, and not the other way around, as your post suggests.

Given that Dean's statements came on Sunday before Kos' diary of yesterday.

Call me a nit-picker, but that's the way I see this one.

Dean's appearance on MTP was gutsy, forthright and just the unvarnished truthtelling that needs to be coming from the DNC. Damn the torpedoes!

by bekah on Tue May 24, 2005 at 07:24:29 PM EST

Re: In fairness, (3.00 / 2)

Just for the record...

Dean has been saying this as he travels around to states talking with state parties, donors, and activists. I heard him say it personally at least a month ago. He uses essentially the same rap everywhere he goes, and this is part of it.

He also usually tells a story about a woman who wouldn't have an abortion, but wouldn't tell her neighbor what to do. He said that people in that camp consider themselves pro-life, but we would consider them pro-choice.

by Jenny Greenleaf on Tue May 24, 2005 at 07:49:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

One Or Two Better (none / 0)

I like "Pro-Privacy, Pro-Choice," but why not go for the trifecta?  

What we're really talking about is who gets to dictate the most intimate aspects of family life? The family itself? Or the state?

Sure, it's the woman's choice, ultimately. But IRL this is a family decision. Whether or not she discusses it with anyone else, it is a choice she makes weighing her family situation, and--more often than not--thinking in terms of the family's overall welfare.  Thus, what we're talking about is not just "Pro-Privacy, Pro-Choice," but also "pro-family" vs. "pro-state."  So I'd opt for: "Pro-Privacy, Pro-Family, Pro-Choice."

OTOH, I don't see any reason at all to let the other side claim to be "Pro-life."  They are anti-choice, so they should be "anti-choice," simple as that.

by Paul Rosenberg on Tue May 24, 2005 at 07:57:23 PM EST

Re: One Or Two Better (none / 0)

I like anti-woman or anti-family. Maybe woman haters. Family haters is a bit much.
by Gary Boatwright on Tue May 24, 2005 at 09:56:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Word Order Matters (none / 0)

"Pro-Privacy and Choice" says things in a more universal way than putting choice first.  

Emphasize the most general idea first, but include choice to make the connection to the abortion issue.  'Pro-Privacy and Pro-Choice' makes it sound like two different issues, whereas choice is encompassed well into privacy.

"Pay any price, bear any burden"
by JimPortlandOR on Tue May 24, 2005 at 08:33:22 PM EST

Anti-control? (none / 0)

What Dean's saying here is that most people (except the theocrats)find the idea of the government interfering in and controlling their most intimate life decisions abhorent.

I'd love a one- or two-word phrase that sums that up. Privacy doesn't quite convey it. We want the government out of our bedrooms, hospice centers, and doctors' offices.

by Jenny Greenleaf on Tue May 24, 2005 at 10:48:37 PM EST

Re: Anti-control? (none / 0)

I'd love a one- or two-word phrase that sums that up.

Get out of our panties

This conveys that the GOP has gotten too far into the intimate affairs of Americans...

Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Wed May 25, 2005 at 02:00:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

We Already Have a Phrase (none / 0)

Right to Privacy.

This is so simple that even the most non-political person gets it.

However, in reading the comments, I get the feeling that we are focusing on issues, not the concept.  Dean (and  Kos) were arguing that the broad concept of a Right to Privacy is the spring from which other issues flow.  Things such as a right to worship how one wishes (or not) and Pro Choice Rights.  

Focus on the Broad concept and we can win.  Focus on the individual issues (I don't care how many you adopt), we loose.   The Right has clobbered us on the broad concept spcetrum, with subsequent victories.  We need to adjust.  Talk about the Concepts then progress to the issues.

by NvDem on Wed May 25, 2005 at 07:38:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Anti-control? (none / 0)

pro-freedom.

These days framing doesn't mess around with niceties.  It doesn't have to be accurate, it just has to pack a punch.  Here we're talking about people's freedom vs. those who want the state to take that freedom away...

And for my money, I've never understood why our legal definitions for the beginning of life aren't related to those for the end of life.  Life would then NOT begin at conception, which is biologically quite the misconception.  If we're talking unique DNA patterns, then treating cancer would be illegal too.  Even a superficial understanding of biology quickly makes a lot of the moral/spiritual arguments look really pretty hokey.

 

by Guinho on Fri May 27, 2005 at 12:47:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

asdf (none / 0)

Please don't cherry pick from polls.  All it really does creates a phoney universe of self-reflection that doesn't address the complexity of issues; and, ultimately leads to the dehumanizing of opponents to excuse intollerence and discord.  This is not, despite the angry protests of people on both sides of the issue, a "simple, black-white" issue and neither group of "extremists" are degenerate scum.  

"Do you think abortion should be legal in all cases, legal in most cases, illegal in most cases, or illegal in all cases?"

Legal In All Cases  20
Legal In Most Cases  36
Illegal In Most Cases  27
Illegal In All Cases 14
Unsure 3

The facts are that the majority of Americans have, and if history has any weight on the matter, will continue to support limits on abortion.  The majority of Americans are, and will likely remain, conflicted on the issue trying to balance the rights of women and (as the majority sees it) her unborn baby.

by DraconisRex on Wed May 25, 2005 at 07:40:26 AM EST


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