Blaming the Victim

Conservativs would never dare to question anything their base does, including engage in violent attacks against judges. John Cornyn, R-TX, is a case in point. I just received this transcript of a speech he made on the Senate floor around one hour ago:
I don't know if there is a cause-and-effect connection but we have seen some recent episodes of courthouse violence in this country. Certainly nothing new, but we seem to have run through a spate of courthouse violence recently that's been on the news and I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception in some quarters on some occasions where judges are making political decisions yet are unaccountable to the public, that it builds up and builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in - engage in violence."
Violent extremists don't attack judges--judges (or the American judicial system, since it is not clear who he is blaming) attack themselves.

Update: In an article with the unfortunate all caps "BREAKING" in its title (why on Earth do bloggers and diarists do that?), John Aravosis writes:

We now have Republican Senators making excuses for terrorists. Explaining why terrorism is understandable. Why terrorists have legitimate concerns. Justifying why the victims of terrorism are really to blame for these heinous crimes. Wonder what Senator Cornyn thinks of rape victims?

This is utterly outrageous. Outrageous. The GOP is now embracing domestic terrorists who are trying to undermine our democracy. And they're doing it so they can take down the judges who "killed" Terri Schiavo, and instead impose some Pat Robertson-like theocracy on our country. This is absolutely utterly beyond contempt.

Aravosis says Cornyn should resign. I'd just be happy if more terrorist conservative threats against judges actually made the news.



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"Cause-and-Effect" (none / 0)

WOW!!  

Blaming the victims, indeed!

by bellarose on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 06:49:02 PM EST

GOP Hypocrisy continues... (3.00 / 1)

They say the judiciary isn't responsive or accountable to the people.  Well, silly me, but I thought the point of having judges NOT BE UP FOR RE-ELECTION was done on purpose so judges wouldn't kowtow to political whim, but stick to the LAW.

Also, getting rid of the filibuster on judicial nominees actually REMOVES the people's representatives from having a say on judge's.  Thus, making federal judges even LESS responsive to the people.

The nuclear option makes judge's LESS ACCOUNTABLE to the people, because they don't have to please at least 60 Senators.

Someone big, famous, and a talking-head who has lots of power in the Democratic Pary please start using that talking-oint.

SquareState.net - Colorado Politics
by pacified on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 07:21:34 PM EST

Both parties have their hypocrites... (none / 0)

But the GOPs hypocrites are by far the worst..

For example, Terry Schiavo had bulemia... In other words she STARVED HERSELF to death...

There are those in the GOP who want to emulate Mussolini's march on Rome and the Nazis 'beer hall putsch'.

These are people who see that their 'mandate' is a pile of shit - manufactured by the media.

For that reason, it can't last, so they see a window shutting..

These people now clearly want to eliminate the little threat to their control called democracy and stage their own smallminded and selfish  coup-d-etat...

There is a word for that.. its called 'treason'.

Both liberals and conservatives who care about America, Americans and America's future as 'one nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL' -

NEED TO SPEAK UP. Now...

by ultraworld on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 11:31:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: GOP Hypocrisy continues... (none / 0)

They want total power, nothing less.

Despite conservative howling about a judiciary run amok, the judiciary has considerably less power than the legislature and even less power than the Executive. Legislatures pass laws and enact budgets (the all important power of the purse). The Executive branch implements the law, in effect running the country. All the judiciary branch does is keep the other two branches from overstepping their power. They are a check against the rule of the mob.

By the very nature of the job, judges should not be elected, lest we have federal versions of Roy Moore.  Filibusters of judicial nominees are critical because if you can't get 60 votes, you shouldn't be a federal judge. (IIRC, the last Supreme Court appointee, Stephen Breyer, got 89)

by wayward on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 10:18:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Texas bloggers unite (3.00 / 1)

The Texas wingnuts have been saying some amazing things recently.  I think it is time to have a blogswarm and introduce them to the nation.  In addition to Tom Delay, Sam Johnson, a conservative Congressman, is one of the most extreme Soc Sec privatisers and recently joked that we should actually nuke Syria.  One Texas congressman has signed on to the Constitution Restoration Act (which would force judges to acknowledge that God is the source of laws).  John Cornyn.  Alberto the Terrible.  Bob Perry (of Swift Boat fame).  Kay Hutchison has also hired one of the Swift Boat architects to help her Governors campaign.  

Time to tie them all together into a neat little package.  I would be willing to host a Texas bloggers coordination petition or blogswarm from my blog, Corked Bats.

by Garemko on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 07:22:53 PM EST

Scary! (none / 0)

This type of logic will get us into alot of trouble!!  I hope someone takes him to task over it!
by ang6666 on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 07:28:56 PM EST

No, he's right. (3.00 / 1)

He just doesn't go far enough.

He says: "I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception . . ." of judicial inaccountability and acts of terrorism carried out against judges.

There most certainly is a connection between that perception and those acts.

Once you've acknowledged that, you can take the next step and assign a share of responsibility to those who foster and cultivate that perception -- that is to say, all those who go on television or stand on the Senate floor, wheedling about judicial activism and the like, and publicly threatening retaliation.

Yeah, I'm cynical.
by catastrophile on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 07:30:35 PM EST

Unless you think the following... (none / 0)

"... but we seem to have run through a spate of courthouse violence recently that's been on the news and I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception in some quarters on some occasions where Senators and Congressman are issuing judicial decisions yet are unaccountable to the public, that it builds up and builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in - engage in violence."

... is ok... Resign Senator Cornyn. You are unfit for office.

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 08:09:52 PM EST

Who killed Terri? (3.00 / 1)

Didn't I hear after Terri died that God has called her to her final resting place? If that is true,then did God kill Terri Schiavo and does that make God a terrorist?
by wise liberal on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 08:15:16 PM EST

Bulemia was the real cause of Terry's death (none / 0)

Terry suffered from an eating disorder, in which she  starved herself, causing a potassium deficiency that caused her to lapse into a coma.

Honestly, that is what caused her death.

by ultraworld on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 11:23:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Exactly what they wanted (3.00 / 2)

Ril up the base and give them targets, that's what they've been doing all along.  Glad someone is finally recognizing it.  Now what?

Any Dems going to stand up?

DAGGER
by goplies on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 09:05:47 PM EST

Re: Exactly what they wanted (none / 0)

rile*
DAGGER
by goplies on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 09:06:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

this is about the nuclear option (3.00 / 2)


They are trying to create some conventional wisdom that the judges are out of control, that the dems are blocking "reform" of the judicial system. If they can get 50%+1 to buy into the idea that the judges are "ignoring our rights" then they can push the nuclear option through without blowback. Otherwise they don't have a chance.
by spandrel on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 09:34:18 PM EST

Re: this is about the nuclear option (3.00 / 1)

Ironically, the judges that have pushed the "hot buttons" of the right have all been GOP appointees.

The Massachussetts SJC has a majority of Republican appointees.

The judge in California who said there was no good reason to ban gay marriage was a Wilson appointee.

The opinion in case that overturned Texas's sodomy law was written by Reagan appointee, Anthony Kennedy.

Five Republican appointees were in the majority in deciding Roe v. Wade (Berger, Blackmun, Powell, Brennan, Stewart) In 1992, five Republican appointees (Blackmun, O'Connor, Stevens, Kennedy, Souter) voted to uphold Roe v. Wade.

Yet it's those evil liberal judges that are destroying America.

by wayward on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 10:45:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Why does the GOP hate the Rule of Law? (3.00 / 1)

Is it because they're too immature to behave?

Is it because they can't help but hate the law ever since the Democrats became the Law and Order party under some hick from Arkansas?

What's their problem?

So much for the culture of life!

by jcjcjc on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 10:02:30 PM EST

Re: Why does the GOP hate the Rule of Law? (3.00 / 1)

Why does an adolescent male gorilla pound his chest?
by Paul Goodman on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 03:07:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sen. Cornyn and the Rule of Law (3.00 / 1)

If patriotism is the refuge of scoundrels, how then should we characterize this statement from a U.S. Senator expressing understanding--while carefully stopping short of justification--of the recent murders of one federal judge and the mother and husband of another?
by tommywonk on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 10:07:44 PM EST

GOP: Objectively Pro-Terrorist And Proud Of It! (3.00 / 1)

Alberto Gonzales and John Negroponte, watch out! John Cornyn is gaining on you!

by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 10:27:49 PM EST

personal courage? (none / 0)

Do any Senators have the guts to call for his resignation?
Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 10:50:58 PM EST

Brothers in arms? (none / 0)

If you are doing the bidding of the enemy YOU ARE THE ENEMY!

Sen. Cornyn or Aryan hate group?

I report, you decide.

by CaliBlogger on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 03:06:59 AM EST

Look up Hitler's 'Beer Hall Putsch' (none / 0)

This is a similar kind of thing, an attempt to seize the reigns of power and eliminate the checks and balances of democracy. The GOP sees a new Great Depression coming and they want to make sure that the laws are in place to repress the swing towards populism that will occur if millions lose their jobs, consumer spending falls, and the economy then implodes with people putting off purchasing all but the absolute essentials of life.

From
http://mars.acnet.wnec.edu/~grempel/courses/hitler/lectures/beerputsch.html

THE BEER HALL PUTSCH

Although financial contributions, favorable economic, political, and social circumstances, and new members and supporters help to explain the growth of Nazism from 1920 to 19233, the role of Adolf Hitler remains crucial. it was Hitler's fiery oratory that attracted thousands to the Nazi rallies. He had the ability to sense and express the fears, hatreds, and hopes of his Munich listeners, whose worsening economic circumstances made them susceptible to Hitler's emotional speeches against those responsible for Germany's plight.

But he also managed to convey a sense of determination to defeat those guilty parties and to restore Germany to greatness. Hitler's use of rallies, outings, festivals, and cookouts was calculated to fulfill the human need for belonging. The task, as Hitler perceived it, was to provide the masses with a place where they could find emotional rest. The growth of the Nazi party indicates the strength of this appeal.

In its early years, the Nazi movement had been only one of many radical right-wing political groups in Bavaria. The crises of 1923, however, brought a dramatic increase in the growth of the Nazi party, which became the strongest of the nationalist-voelkisch parties in southern Germany. In this same year, Hitler made his first and last attempt to seize power solely by force.

Background: Bavarian Politics and the Crises of 1923

Hitler's attempt to seize power in 1923 was played out against a backdrop of crises for the democratic Weimar government. As we have seen, the French and Belgian occupation of the Ruhr in January 1923 due to Germany's inability to pay reparations was met by a government-inspired policy of passive resistance that led to runaway inflation and economic chaos. These crises created fertile soil for right-wing dreams of overthrowing the Weimar democracy and establishing a right-wing dictatorship.

Nowhere were these dreams more pronounced than in Bavaria and its capital, Munich. A right-wing regime had been established in Bavaria in 1920 . Since the police under the Weimar constitution were responsible to the federal states and not to the central government, the Bavarian police had used their power to protect radical right-wing groups such as the Nazis. The police chief of Munich, Ernst Poehner, had openly helped Hitler's party, and one of his aides, Wilhelm Frick, later became a prominent Nazi. Bavarian courts were notoriously harsh to left-wingers while coddling right-wing extremists.

The army in Bavaria likewise opposed the republic and aided right-wing groups. General Ritter von Epp, who had played a leading role in the liberation of Bavaria from its Soviet Republic, was a Nazi symphatizer. His staff officer Ernst Roehm, as we have seen, joined the Nazi party and provided it with considerable material support. General Otto von Lossow, head of the Bavarian military district, also demonstrated pronounced right-wing sympathies. In 1923 the army began protecting extremist paramilitary groups, such as the Nazis' SA.

In 1923 the Nazi party clearly became the leading party among the extremist right-wing groups. Party membership swelled to 55,000 and the SA grew to 15,000 members. Hitler became head of the Kampfbund (Combat League), an umbrella organization for various right-wing paramilitary groups, including the SA. The Kampfbund found itself sympathizing with Gustav von Kahr and other conservative Bavarian leaders. Following the example of Mussolini's march on Rome in October 1922, both parties favored a "march on Berlin" to overthrow the Weimar government and establish a new nationalist, right-wing government.

They hoped to achieve this goal with the support of right-wing groups in northern Germany and elements of the regular German army that had never really accepted the new democratic system. Even an excuse for the military march on Berlin was at hand-the necessity to suppress the leftist governments in the states of Thuringia and Saxony that had been created by the cooperation of Socialists and Communists. In the spring and summer of 1923, Hitler's SA and other right-wing paramilitary groups held a series of mass demonstrations in Munich, exciting the paramilitary units with calls for a national uprising. Expectations of action soared among the enthusiastic rank and file.

The Beer Hall Putsch of 1923

In the fall of 1923, events came to a head. A new Weimar government under Gustav Stresemann had ended the policy of passive resistance against the French. This new government came into conflict with the Bavarian authorities. On September 26, the Bavarian government had proclaimed a state of emergency and given Gustav von Kahr dictatorial authority.

The new Weimar government likewise declared a state of emergency in Germany and conferred executive powers on the head of the Reichswehr, General von Seeckt. The government tried to force the Bavarian government to control the Nazis by banning the party newspaper, the Voekischer Beobachter When the head of the Bavarian military district, General von Lossow, rejected this order, he was relieved of his command. The Bavarian government insisted that Lossow remain in his post. A clash between the Weimar and Bavarian governments seemed inevitable.

Unfortunately for the conspirators, Hitler's Kampfbund and Kahr's government now began to divide on the best way to proceed. When the Stresemann government used the army to crush the leftist governments in Saxony and Thuringia in October, the Bavarian conspirators lost their justification for a march on Berlin. Kahr became very reluctant to pursue a coup. Likewise, north German right-wing groups counseled against precipitous action. General von Seeckt, certainly no fan of the Weimar Republic and a believer himself in a right-wing coup, now became hostile to the idea. His primary concern was the independence of the Reichswehr, the regular army, and he feared that a rightist putsch could create a civil war that would ultimately harm the army. By the end of October the idea of a march on Berlin was beginning to appear less feasible, and on November 6 Kahr cautioned Hitler and the Kampfbund against any hasty military action.

Hitler was left in a difficult position. He had aroused the paramilitary forces with great expectations. To fail to act threatened his own leadership position with these men. Moreover, it was evident that the crises of 1923 were ending with the Weimar government in ever-growing control. To wait longer would eliminate any hope of success. Hitler decided to try to force Kahr and other Bavarian leaders to join the Kampfbund in a march on Berlin.

Hitler seized the first opportunity for action. On November 8 a rally was to be held in one of Munich's large beer cellars, the Buergerbraeukeller, to honor Kahr. Kahr was the featured speaker, along with General Lossow and Colonel Seisser, head of the police. Hitler surrounded the building with SA troops, broke in, took over the meeting, and melodramatically proclaimed: "The national revolution has broken out." Taking Kahr, Lossow, and Seisser into an adjoining room, Hitler pressured them to join him in overthrowing the national government. They refused until General Erich Ludendorff, who in Hitler's scheme for the new government was to be head of the army, came in to apply new pressure. Ultimately the three agreed and returned to the beer cellar with Hitler and Ludendorff to the acclaim of the audience.

Hitler accepted their promises of support and allowed them to go free, much to his undoing. Circumstances changed dramatically for Hitler overnight. Although Ernst Roehm had seized the local army headquarters, the leadership of the army refused to support Hitler. Lossow, upon his release, telephoned Bavarian army headquarters for new troops to be sent to Munich to crush Hitler's revolt. Kahr also reneged on his promise. Hitler, faced with the complete collapse of his plans, tried a last desperate gamble by marching with Ludendorff and 2000 supporters through Munich to gain popular support for the coup.

Their march was stopped by police barricades and after a brief gun battle the Hitler group, with the noticeable exception of General Ludendorff, ignominiously fled. The Beer Hall Putsch had collapsed. The leaders, including Hitler, were arrested. Some observers considered it the end of the upstart Austrian.

The treason trial against Hitler, Ludendorff, and other leaders of the Kampfbund took place in February and March 1924. Considerable public attention became focused on the trial and gave Hitler the opportunity to establish his name outside of Bavaria. He used the publicity brilliantly to transform defeat into propaganda victory.

At the trial, Hitler did not deny that he had planned to overthrow the national government. But he refused to admit that this had been an act of high treason. The real criminals, Hitler proclaimed, were the betrayers of Germany who had signed the Versailles treaty and perpetuated the Weimar Republic. Hitler also attacked the credibility of the state's chief witnesses, Kahr, Lossow, and Seisser, saying they all wanted the same thing he did. Hitler portrayed himself as the real patriot opposing the Weimar Republic, since he had had the courage to act: "I consider myself not a traitor but a German, who desired what was best for his people." But he was more than just a patriot, for he pictured himself as Germany's man of destiny:

"I aimed from the beginning at something more than being a Minister. I wanted to become the destroyer of Marxism. I am going to achieve this task, and if I do, the title of Minister will be an absurdity for me."

The right-wing judges were sympathetic to Hitler's words. Ludendorff was acquitted and Hitler was given the most lenient sentence possible for treason - five years in prison with an understanding of early probation.

The putsch had failed, but Hitler had not. He would have time in prison to mull over the lessons of the past months and would emerge convinced that the real struggle for the soul of Germany was just beginning.

Source: Jackson J. Spielvogel, Hitler and Nazi Germany (Prentice Hall, 1996)

by ultraworld on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 11:15:18 AM EST

Republican War on Hectic Smurlbats (none / 0)

{from scrutiny hooligans}

"The Republicans who endlessly repeat the rootless mantra, "activist judges, activist judges", are now asserting that violence against the judiciary is understandable. Tom DeLay encourages it. Like Bush into Iraq, the Republicans are preparing to go nuclear to do away with another false threat. Created out of whole cloth by neoconservatives and buttressed by the Christian Coalition's Culture War, the 'threat of activist judges' is as real as Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction, as real as the "Social Security Crisis"."
[...]
"The Republicans are whipping up support for their next war, this one against the judicial system. The stated plan is to end the tyranny of hectic smurlbats. The real objective is to radicalize the judiciary into a fundamentalist arm of the Republican party. And they're willing to promote violence to get it done."

by Screwy Hoolie on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 11:22:25 AM EST

It's DOMESTIC TERRORISM, Stupid! (3.00 / 1)

Oh, I get it now.

So this "cause-and-effect" relationship would extend to, say, federal bldgs getting blown up?

Or laboratories getting pipe-bombed for doing stem-cell research?

Or public officials' offices getting anthraxed?

Or gynecologists who are gunned down by snipers while they wash their dishes?

I'm not shocked at all to hear Cornyn say this kind of stuff.

When people Porter Goss dismiss the notion that these types of premeditated acts of retaliatory violence are, in fact, acts of domestic terrorism -- when domestic right-wing paramilitary groups don't make the list of groups on the national terror watch list -- when political appointees can redefine the American concept of "torture" --

I'm more shocked that Cornyn and Goss and Gonzalez et al continue to get away with it!

by lisaeo on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 11:53:45 AM EST

Apologists for Violence Too Selective (none / 0)

Unfortunately, apologists for violence such as Cornyn ignore the fact that their condoning of violence based on frustration "building up" works equally well for insurgents in Iraq as it does for theocrats in America.
by Curt Matlock on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 12:26:45 PM EST

Terrorism.......ala Texas and Florida Style (none / 0)

We must mount real protest with wingnut Cornyn. This is Nazi stuff in every way. Dangerous and un-American in its essence and radicalism.  Anarchistic and destructive, and chillingly  irresponsible. Delay has given them permission to act out violence.....and GOP has done nothing to discredit this behavior.   The lunatics are running the asylum.  American Terrorism from the GOP!
by morris1030 on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 06:04:54 PM EST


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