An 11th Democratic Commandment

Ronald Reagan has a famous 11th commandment, for Republicans only: "Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican." Well, that might be a little much to ask of Democrats right now, but I do have a suggestion for a Democrats-only 11th commandment: "thou shalt not use caricatures created by our opponents when discussing other Democrats."

Via the Next Hurrah. This is a particularly odious problem that we need to deal with, since it carries with it damaging consequences. For starters, people need to realize that if you use Republican lies about fellow Democrats, they will appear in Republican press releases about Democrats.

MYTH: MoveOn Really Protecting Free Speech -- A Moderate Position.

AD RHETORIC: "Paid For By MoveOn PAC, http://www.MoveOnPac.Org. Not Authorized By Any Candidate Or Candidate's Committee. MoveOn PAC Is Responsible For The Content Of This Advertisement."

FACT: MoveOn PAC Is Part Of Far Left Establishment:

Democrat Leadership Council (DLC) CEO Al From: "You've Got To Reject Michael Moore And The MoveOn Crowd." (NBC's "First Read," 3/1/05)

a) "Rank-And-File Democrats 'Are More Like Us Than MoveOn,' Which (Al) From Called A Group Of 'Elites, People Who Sit In Their Basements All The Time And Play On Their Computers.'" (NBC's "First Read," 3/1/05)

And so the Republican narrative marches forward.

This is a very small example, but actions such as these help Republicans dominate the national discourse. After first serving to validate the conservative talking point or frame or narrative, eventually lines such as this appear in popular culture, and become part of the national consciousness. In fact, I actually noticed Bradley Whitford (Josh Lyman) use a line lifted directly from a May 2003 DLC memo about "activist elites" and delegates to the Democratic Party convention in the season finale of the West Wing (I have been unable to find a transcript of that episode yet, but I have it on tape and I promise you it is there).

This is not just directed at Al From and the DLC. Many Democrats need to realize that being a centrist Democrat does not mean that you are "abandoning your beliefs" or "selling out" (spinelessnesss is a particularly odious caricature of Democrats right now). The lies and caricatures come from many sides of the party, and while those of the Lieberman variety receive far more play in the MSM, lies and caricatures of a quite different sort are tolerated at places like MyDD. I think the left-wing lie that grates me the most is that both parties are corporate parties.

We are in a rebuilding phase, and in the blogosphere we write and comment in a pretty open, chaotic world. Internal squabbling is going to happen, and I know that I will probably continue to engage in it as well. However, when you do it, never use lies created by our opponents, whether Republican, Green or apathetic, to talk about Democrats. That is the surest path to defeat, no matter how a red or blue your state may be.



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thank you so much. (none / 0)

"Many Democrats need to realize that being a centrist Democrat does not mean that you are "abandoning your beliefs" or "selling out" (spinelessnesss is a particularly odious caricature of Democrats right now). The lies and caricatures come from many sides of the party, and while those of the Lieberman variety receive far more play in the MSM, lies and caricatures of a quite different sort are tolerated at places like MyDD."

I am a proud liberal Democrat, but I realize that not every Democrat is going to be on the same page as me. It seems that some people in the left-wing blogosphere want the Democratic party to be a 30% minority party consisting of just the core "true" Democrats. We're supposed to be the big tent party, aren't we?

by johnny longtorso on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 01:24:30 PM EST

Yes (none / 0)

"thou shalt not use caricatures created by our opponents when discussing other Democrats."

Bravo!!

If the Democrats want to become a national force again, they better start supporting the nascent groups who support them.

Republicans are adept at picking off Democratic supporters with organized smear campaigns and every time they successfully tar a Move On type organization, we lose more potentially powerful advocates.  Even worse, we allow Republicans to  scare away others who may be considering organizing support.  

Republicans know this. . .Why don't Democrats?

by bellarose on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 01:32:31 PM EST

Defensiveness (none / 0)

What troubles me is that Democratic spokespeople are getting used to taking a defensive position and acting defensively.  Part of this is due to our treatment by the media, of course, but if Republicans can put the screws to the media on "spin," then we can too.  

Harry Reid's Saturday response to Bush was about the filibuster and it was described in the media as a defense.  I didn't hear what he said, but noted that he made it sound like a defense, according to reports.  That's bad, and he needs to get with the program.  If the media are wholly responsible for misrepresentation, then we need to get after them, en masse.  But I believe we are thinking defensively:  our language and posture and timing have become habitually reactive rather than active.  Need to change that.

I was listening to Ward Churchill last night talking about the distinction between pissing, moaning, writing letters to the editor -- and real activism.  He was urging genuine, organized, personal and group activism on the part of the left.  What he said is worth listening to.  He was on CSpan BookTV. I heard him late at night on satellite radio.  

A potential split in their party is bugging the Republicans.  The old-fashioned moderate conservatives are finding it very hard to go along with the radical Right, but just as hard to split away from them because they know what it would do to the party cohesiveness which brought them to power in beginning in the mid-'90's.  

My instinct is that the energy -- the power -- of the Dems may now lie with the progressives, not the centrists, and that it might not be a bad thing for the progressives to split off and take the power with them. I suspect we'd be followed...

by Bean on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 02:01:22 PM EST

Re: Defensiveness (none / 0)

In your last line, can you elaborate on what you mean by "split off"
by v2aggie2 on Mon Apr 11, 2005 at 02:02:13 AM EST
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I think this is an important discussion (none / 0)

I am certainly one of the harshest critics of the DLC. I may have some competition, but I doubt anyone is more critical. I would be glad to sit on the sidelines or drastically moderate my criticism if the other side would agree to do the same.

What I will not tolerate is the suggestion that we should be seen and not heard while the DLC adults take care of the pragmatic business of developing policy. I object to DLC positions on principle and I am admittedly very frustrated that a very large segment of the party is being marginalized and ignored. It looks like the DLC has a firmer grip on the party than they did before Dean was selected as DNC Chair.

As far as the accusation that corporate elites very strongly influence the DLC, I believe they are accurate. The Democratic party may not be as firmly in the grip of corporate America as the Republican party, but it is a simple statement of fact that they are a close second. The Democratic party is not immune to the wiles of highly skilled corporate lobbyists or the lure of large campaign contributions. The military industrial complex has deep roots in the Democratic party as well as the Republican party.

How do we ignore that? How can we criticize Republicans for being under the influence of corporate masters, if we ignore the mote in our own eye? Flanigan has a brutal column in the L.A. Times today, Bankruptcy Bill Needs Reform. Is there any defense for voting for this bill? I haven't seen one. I don't think this bill is in the interests of the voters or constituents of either party. Corrupt corporate influlence is the only explanation I am aware of that bears examination.

In fact, Flanagan's article suggests this bill may be worse than the Medicare Prescription Drug bill from last year. It is "hostile to entrepreneurs" and will overturn state laws, including in Texas, that protect homeowners. The $125,000 cap will force many people to lose their homes, the bill will add $400 million to the federal deficit to hire more bankruptcy judges and:

The great danger in this bankruptcy bill is that it would change American risk-taking culture to something closer to the European model, where entrepreneurs are suspect and a single business failure pretty much rules out any second chances.

I think this bill was slammed through the Senate so fast that even Republicans and the WH didn't know how bad it was. I really don't see a principled justification for voting for this abomination. Not one. The only explanation is massive and corrupt corporate influence on the DLC. If somebody has an argument to the contrary, I am all ears.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 02:04:56 PM EST

Re: I think this is an important discussion (none / 0)

Look, if you hate the DLC, fine.

But last I checked, the Republicans control the executive and legistlative branches.  I agree that the bankruptcy bill is an abomination.  But you act like the DLC is behind it, and introduced it.  At this point, the DLC has no power to be behind ANYTHING and push it through.  The Republicans DO, and they DID.

As far as Biden's vote, well, he is in Delaware, and the credit card industry is essentially based there.  I'm not saying it's a good explanation, but it's politics, like it or not.

I have no explanations for the others.

In any case, if I'm correct, the Republicans had the votes WITHOUT Democrats.  And a lot of Democrats tried to change the bill.  But when you don't have the power, there is only so much you can do.

This is why gaining back control of the executive and legislative braches is so important.  Then we can talk about making a REAL difference.

by v2aggie2 on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 03:31:15 PM EST
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Re: I think this is an important discussion (none / 0)

I don't hate the DLC. Where did that come from this comment? I pointed to a specific bill that would not have passed without help from the DLC. Democrats could have stopped this bill in the Senate very, very easily. It was out of committee and voted on almost before anyone knew it was coming up for a vote.

I have the same explanation for the other Democrats who voted for the bankruptcy bill as I do for Biden. I am not even aware that there is a debate that Biden and the other Democrats who voted for bankruptcy were bought and paid for. That's not an attack, it's a fact. Politicians in both parties get bought off by powerful and wealthy corporate and even industry wide campaign contributions. I don't even know how to have an honest discussion about these issues without acknowledging that political reality.

My frustration stems from the fact that stopping bankrutpcy in the Senate was one of the best ways to distinguish the Democrats from Republicans and send a message that we care more about kitchen table economic issues that help middle America than Republicans do.

I also do not think the fact that Biden is from Delaware excuses his vote. His vote did not benefit the people in Delaware.

You might also want to check back on my Social Security diary for some facts about why I continue to insist that there is no crisis. Why is that so difficult for you to accept?

Am I really the problem here? Because I want to insist that there is no crisis in Social Security and I continue to insist that all Democrats should be held to a higher standard than they were on the bankruptcy bill?

If we give Biden and the rest of the DLC a pass on bankruptcy and class action lawsuit restrictions and drilling in ANWR, what on earth can we criticize them for? Is granting the DLC immunity from criticism the price of membership in the DLC?

Maybe we need to have a discussion about David Brooks' editorial, A House Divided and Strong. I don't agree with his conclusion that the Republican party is better than it used to be, or about the nature of the discussion the Democratic party needs to have.

Brooks does seem to have a point that the Democratic party stifles internal debate. Should I stifle my criticism of Biden and Lieberman? I admit to harsh attacks on them in the past, but everything I have said in this diary is factually accurate to the best of my knowledge.

Please identify factual inaccuracies or explain why this discussion should be out of bounds. How can we expect the party to listen to us, if we don't say anything?

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 04:15:44 PM EST
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Re: I think this is an important discussion (none / 0)

I never excused their votes...that is your perception.

I also did not grant the DLC immunity from criticism

I also said that their is no crisis with regards to Social Security.  That does not mean that adjustments will not have to be made...they have already been made in the past.  I don't think this is in question.

If you are worried about corporate interests, then you need to work towards changing the campaign finance system.  Otherwise, the interests are still there.

by v2aggie2 on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 07:39:43 PM EST
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From the West Wing (none / 0)

Episode 6x22 (timecode 08:30)

Josh Lyman (Bradley Whitford):

[The Democratic National Convention Delegates are]
Completely out of step with the voters we need in the fall.  Four years ago, two thirds of the
delegates wanted to cut defense spending.  Even
Democratic votes don't want us to touch it.

The delegates were split on the death penalty;
Democrats favor it two to one.

by Newt on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 03:03:20 PM EST

Help me out here (none / 0)

The O.C. Register has an annoying habit of running guest editorials in their paper that they do not put on their website. Today, on the back page of the Opinion section, they ran David Brooks editorial and this one, Cuckolded by the Conservative State.

Brooks is celebrating robust ideological debate in the Republican party in one, and in the other Sager is criticizing the "God and government faction's grip on the party." No decent conservative would criticize Republicans without also taking a shot at Democrats:

The GOP could convince soccer moms that it's not so hard-hearted by implementing national health care piece by piece. It could pick up the votes of blue-collar union members by appealing to them on "values" issues that the Democrats can't talk about without choking on their own bile.

Isn't Howard Dean the one trying to encourage Democrats to start discussing our issues in terms of values?

Is it me, or does this criticism apply to both parties?

Eventually, it seems inevitable that expanding the Republican Party's power at the expense of its principles will cause it to hollow out its core and collapse. But such a day could be far away.

In the meantime, those doing the expanding and the hollowing on behalf of the Bush administration can ask themselves whether power for its own sake is a worthy end or whether power corrupts.

If they listen to their consciences, they might hear one word: absolutely.


 
It looks to me like people of conscience in both parties have complaints, but Republicans do seem more willing to criticize their own party.

Have any liberal Democrats actually criticized the DLC publically? I do it here at MyDD, but is some Republican politician or spokesman going to say, "It's like JollyBuddah says over at MyDD ..." ???

I  am not aware of a single liberal critic of the DLC saying anything that the Republican party can use against the Democratic party. What am I missing? Maybe because it suits my bias, I just overlooked it. Help me out. When was the last time a liberal Democrat criticized the DLC period?

One of my criticisms of the DLC is that they don't criticize Republicans enough. Anybody here knows I am highly critical of Republicans. I wish liberals and the DLC could get on the same page criticizing Republicans. I don't think I'm the problem. I don't think liberals are the problem.

When was the last time Joe Lieberman criticized Republicans? I still haven't heard Al From criticize Ann Coulter or any other Republican. It should be a dog bites man story, so I could have missed it. The last diary I recall about Al From, he was spinning the DLC and taking a sideways shot at liberals.

Am I being unrealistic expecting Democrats to criticize Republicans? Republicans are harsher critics of Republicans than Democrats as far as I can tell.

I really do not understand what is going on with the Democratic party. I am totally and completely baffled. I would be sincerely grateful for an explanation that makes sense.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 04:58:19 PM EST

Absolutely! (none / 0)

It's the main reason, I think, that so many Democrats are pissed off at Joe Lieberman. He is not the most conservative Democrat by far. Yet he is the Democrat most willing to reach for the Republican playbook when criticizing his fellow Democrats. It's the reason why he is so popular with FOX news. They can always rely on Joe to (1) criticize a fellow Dem and (2) give weight to Republicans by using their talking points.
by Chris Andersen on Sun Apr 10, 2005 at 05:48:28 PM EST

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