2008 Primaries Will Be Just As Frontloaded as 2004

It will not necessarily mean that the presumptive nominee will be chosen as quickly as Kerry was in 2004, but expect the 2008 primary calendar to be Iowa, followed by New Hampshire eight days later, followed by a much larger mini-Tuesday seven days after that. For example, North Carolina seems to be following at least Pennsylvania's lead in joining the mini-Tuesday fray:
North Carolina voters are usually irrelevant when it comes to picking a presidential nominee for a party, but the legislature is considering a bill that could change that. State Sen. Andrew Brock, a Republican from Mocksville, has introduced a bill to move North Carolina's presidential primary from May to the first Tuesday in February in 2008. That would put North Carolina's primary right after the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.
Combined, Pennsylvania and North Carolina are as large as all seven mini-Tuesday states were in 2004 (AZ, DE, MO, NM, ND, OK, and SC). Subscription only Hotline notes that NC is part of an "ever-growing list of states potentially holding a WH primary on that day," but does not name any names.

This probably means that if Clinton wins either Iowa or New Hampshire, she would basically seal the nomination on February 5th, 2008. If someone else wins both Iowa and New Hampshire, that person would probably seal the nomination on February 5th. If two people who are not Hillary Clinton split Iowa and New Hampshire, then look out for a wild, long lasting primary season that might not be decided until the convention. Ever constricting television coverage of the primary season before Iowa and New Hampshire will almost certainly continue to grant Iowa and New Hampshire their ridiculous power, especially if extensive political restrictions are placed upon the rising political information source that is the Internet.

2012 might see some improvements to the primary system, but it is growing obvious that 2008 will not.



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well (none / 0)

If Vilsack doesn't run, then I firmly believe that New Hampshire is irrelevant. Everything will come down to Iowa - because of the television coverage.

SIDEBAR: People, especially net people, need to come to grips with the fact that television is still overwhelmingly the information source of choice for most americans. In fact, television will always be more persuasive than the net. Why, because television communicates in a language of images. And the net communicates predominantly in the written word. A picture, proverbially, is worth a thousand words. Er go...

However, the DNC commission on the nominating process apparently is looking very comprehensively at this issues, and is apparently inclined to change the calendar rules at least somewhat. My guess is that we will have Iowa, NH, and a third state to be named later all on the same date.

by blueflorida on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 01:18:41 PM EST

It depends on how smart you are (none / 0)

If you are the type of person for whom the Church developed stained glass, you prefer modern stained glass, ie TV.

If you are the type of person for whom was written "In Praise of Folly", you prefer modern printing press, ie the Internet.

by Paul Goodman on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:25:18 PM EST
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Re: It depends on how smart you are (none / 0)

On the individual level, you make an fair and important point. On a macroscopic level, TV has a much lower access threshold than books/newspapers/blogs. And the sustainability requirements are less. So, I'm saying that because it "costs" less to watch TV than to surf and learn on the net, TV will always have a greater potential to move the consciousness of the public than the internet.
by blueflorida on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:05:41 PM EST
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Impossible (none / 0)

Iowa has a law which states its caucus must be held at least 8 days before NH's primary.  I believe NH has a law which says its primary must be held 7 days before any other states nominating contest.
by demiowa on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:31:36 PM EST
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A Plan (none / 0)

Let's get some other state to pick a date in early January - forcing Iowa and NH into December.  Hah!   That would be so ridiculous, it would effectively end their primacy right there.

So, states, which one of you has balls?  How about New Jersey?  

by Andmoreagain on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:48:07 PM EST
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Re: Impossible (none / 0)

State laws only have the influence that the DNC's own bylaws give them. If the DNC were to change its bylaws to effectively say that IA & NH have to share their firsties privilege with another state or some such calendar reform, then that's all that matters, otherwise the DNC won't seat delegates selected by an illegitimate process.

The state of New Hampshire (or Iowa for that matter) cannot (legally) hijack the Democratic National Committee.

by blueflorida on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 03:58:43 PM EST
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Dean (none / 0)

Does anybody know if Howard Dean is involved with the primary committee?  If he is, he would probably want a longer process than 2004 because it didn't give him time to recover after Iowa.  Iowa made Kerry and Edwards the stars, coming from nowhere in the polls just days before.  
Max Friedman
by Max Friedman on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:43:29 PM EST
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NJ Primary (none / 0)

And NJ is likely to move up the last Tuesday in February.  Bills are in committee today along with 16 other proposals.  I mention them at Poetic Leanings.
by SGlennW on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 01:29:59 PM EST

Let's have a real Super Tuesday (none / 0)

What the hell. Let's have all of the remaining 48 states vote on the same day. The supposed benefits of Iowa and New Hampshire are a joke. Let's forget all the stupid games and just vote. We're probably better if we just let voters go with their gut instinct anyway. All of the rest of the nonsense are just excuses for DLC power broker types to manipulate the process.

The less manipulation the better.

by Gary Boatwright on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 01:41:04 PM EST

Re: Let's have a real Super Tuesday (none / 0)

  1. I think a lot of feel burned by the front loaded Iowa and NH primaries and tending to lock things in, so there may a back-lash to that, and many people may discount the results in a front-loaded primary season.

  2. we should really discuss what is wrong with front loading in terms of it being a means of the party forcing the most mainstream compromise from the field and recent political mechanics showing that is probably a guaranteed losing strategy, but it will alway ultimatly come down to specific personalities.

  3. If front loading and conservative leaning states are the preferred way to go, we should hold the first primary in Alabama, where we will also be guaranteed of getting a candidate acceptable to the south (another piece of BS CW).

  4. I would never vote for or support Hillary Clinton as the presidental nominee and I will not support run of the mill "centrist" Bush-Enablers for any important post in the party.

by leschwartz on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 03:03:47 PM EST
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Evolving to a National Primary? (none / 0)

Is there any chance we will just evolve toward a national primary if more and more states move into February (or a nearly national one if everyone moves into the 2-3 weeks after Iowa).

Are there laws or party rules that would restrict the states from doing that on their own?

I know if I were a state government I'd be thinking about moving as early as possible in order to have an impact.

--Jeff

by jlind2112 on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 01:49:31 PM EST

Re: Evolving to a National Primary? (none / 0)

If that's the case, it should be moved back to much later than February.  So much of the public turned off to the election between the primaries and the GE.  It benefits noone to have this rediculous, protracted, 2-year election process, except for the states that just keep pushing the primary season earlier and earlier.
"You say the world has lost it's love I say embrace what it's made of" -Dar Williams
by Valatan on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:22:41 PM EST
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West Wing (none / 0)

"If two people who are not Hillary Clinton split Iowa and New Hampshire, then look out for a wild, long lasting primary season that might not be decided until the convention."

You just pretty much described this season's "The West Wing" :D

by Frederik on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 01:53:29 PM EST

Front loading (none / 0)

Here we go again! The influence of Iowa and NH has increased significantly over the years because of the front loading of the primaries and caucuses.

Think about it, in 1984 Mondale didn't lock up the nomination until California in June, which was the story for decades. Starting in 1988, the Southern Super Tuesday strategy and the subsequent changes in '92, '96, '00 and '04 making IA/NH earlier and earlier (In '72 the NH primary was in March in '04 in was in January) with way too many states immediately following. Space them out! Give the candidates time to actually visit the states and create grassroots organizations instead of using the media to spin and spending millions on tv.

IA/NH only get a disproportionate amount of influence because there in not any time left to re-group and move on. Would the 1992 Clinton have been able to survive the current calendar? Or would Tsongas have had it all wrapped up?

Would Kerry have been the nominee or at least a stronger nominee with the 1984 calendar? Not sure, but spreading out the nominating calendar is the answer not even more front loading.

by Blue State Boy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 01:53:40 PM EST

National Primary (3.00 / 1)

If the Democrats had a single nationwide primary/ caucus in one day in 2004, Joe Lieberman would have been our nominee. It was only after polling in Iowas and NH in the fall of '03 showing Lieberman not doing well did he stop leading in the national polls. Without those small state polls, he would have continued to lead because of his 2000 name recognition.
by Blue State Boy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 01:59:04 PM EST

Re: National Primary (none / 0)

I'm confused. Wasn't Dean leading in national polls going into the primaries?
by dwbh on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 08:20:47 AM EST
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Re: National Primary (none / 0)

Without the energy and excitement that the grassroots & netroots operations put together for Dean in Iowa and New Hampshire the national media would never had given him the coverage that he recieved. Once polling showed Dean challenging then leading the Iowa presumed favorite Gephardt and the NH presumed favorite Kerry, the national media gave Dean enough coverage to allow him to become the frontrunner in national polls.

 A national primary would not give the opportunity of a unknown former governor from a tiny state to compete no matter what his/her message. It would never get out. What would he/she have to raise $200 or $300 million?

Taking away power from the grassroots and netroots and allowing the national corporate media to determine the nominee doesn't make any sense.

The problem is frontloading the nominating process. Iowa and NH are just the begining, not the end.

by Blue State Boy on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 09:07:09 AM EST
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It also means (3.00 / 1)

that the general election will be a long long drawn out affair.  Two non-incumbant candidates will be determined in Feb. running against each other until Nov.  Prepare for a blood bath.

Even a perfect candidate can be dystroyed under those timeframes.

by aiko on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:01:48 PM EST

It is the compressed calendar (none / 0)

The problem is the shortened calendar.  Too many states are moving up and clustering together.  Super Tuesday was the first mistake, it started a rush to consolidate and shorten the calendar.
As for a national primary, it would be a competition among establishment candidates with the big money to run national television.  No grass roots influence.  
by nascardem on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:26:14 PM EST

How can the primaries be changed? (none / 0)

I have never understood why party activities are wed to the actual government, or where in law that wedding consists.
by Paul Goodman on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:26:43 PM EST

Re: How can the primaries be changed? (none / 0)

It is a complicated process. Generally speaking, there has been peace between the states and the parties but it could get bad at some time.

The states may hold "beauty contest" primaries at any time with no actual connection to the delegate selection process. It is the allocation of delegates that the parties overrule state law. The DNC has a 15% candidate threshold for delegate allocation and some states have it at 10% or less, the DNC rule trumps state law, stuff like that.

by Blue State Boy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:47:06 PM EST
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I HATE FRONT-END LOADED PRIMARIES (none / 0)

the best thing we had going for us in 2004 was 10 dems on a stage ripping on GWB.  The longer that went on, the better.
SquareState.net - Colorado Politics
by pacified on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:30:34 PM EST

Let's De-Legitimize Iowa and NH (none / 0)

Let's begin to plant a stories to the effect of,
-"Not all it's cracked up to be: Iowa and NH have not delivered winners for Democrats; the real action is on Super Tuesday"   -"A recipe for losers?  The convincing 04 winner of these states lost the general election"  
-"A tired tradition: more and more Democrats are tired of the existing outmoded primary calendar."

In the absence of a true calendar overhaul, this is the best thing, a perception campaign, and it's achievable.  

And this gives us more hope for Vilsack's candidacy to spoil this dynamic.  I suggest a strategic embrace of Tom.   I checked out his state of the state speech on the web and he has some talent.   He's a regular guy, maybe he'd be a decent candidate anyway.  

So,......"Vilsack! Vilsack! Vilsack!"

by Andmoreagain on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:45:28 PM EST

Re: Let's De-Legitimize Iowa and NH (none / 0)

Hmmm..I'm thinking, I'm thinking...have I heard this song before? Oh yes, it was in 1992! Tom Harkin wins his home state of Iowa and Tsongas wins neighboring NH. Because of the space in time Clinton had time to regroup and go on to win the White House.

It's front loading that is the problem, not Iowa and NH.

by Blue State Boy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:50:29 PM EST
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Re: Let's De-Legitimize Iowa and NH (none / 0)

I don't think it necessarily helps Hillary.....after a few weeks of hearing her awful stump style on TV, and assuming at least a couple other candidates have some message traction (johnny boy edwards will be one of those, I'd bet)....that "second chance" would (might?)  redound to the benefit of the best candidate.    

After all, is there any doubt that Bill Clinton was a better candidate than Paul Tsongas?  

by Andmoreagain on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:55:23 PM EST
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why loser Iowa at all? (none / 0)

The state went for Bush in 2008. Why on earth would dems splurge for their big primaries there? If the governor couldn't deliver the state he is incompetent as a politician and sure as heck doesn't belong anywhere in the field.

Why aren't, you know, swing states part of the primaries? Why is the west totally excluded in favor of losers like Iowa and little tiny states like New Hampshire/

by quoi on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:51:06 PM EST

Re: why loser Iowa at all? (3.00 / 1)

What in the world is your definition of "swing state"? Iowa and NH ARE swing states!
by Blue State Boy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:53:04 PM EST
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Re: why loser Iowa at all? (none / 0)

It wasn't Vilsack's job to deliver Iowa. It was KERRY's job to resonate with voters in Iowa. He didn't.. and lost in Iowa.
by falcon4e on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 03:07:47 PM EST
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Re: why loser Iowa at all? (none / 0)

Iowa and NH are two of the three most swingin' states in the country.

Iowa went for Gore/Bush
NH went Bush/Kerry.

NM is the only other state that changed parties between 2000 and 2004.

by wayward on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 07:04:48 AM EST
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States are never "delivered" (3.00 / 1)

This always drives me nuts on the web - Nobody "delivers" states.   It's always, always up to the top candidate to win an election.   Having a local on the ticket can help with organizations IF that state organization is good to begin with.   Small edge, anyway.
by Andmoreagain on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 03:17:21 PM EST

It stinks. (none / 0)

I wish they would just order the primaries according to the multiplicative product of electoral votes * "in playness"

Let's let a state like Florida have more say earlier in the process.

by Frank Lynch on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 03:31:34 PM EST

has Hillary announced? (none / 0)

are we absolutely sure she's running? Or am I being naive to think she may not?
by jdavidson on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 03:50:05 PM EST

I agree (none / 0)

I think Hillary's "candidacy" for preisdent is a right wing talk radio invention designed to give goold ol' Rush more ratings.  If she runs, so be it,  but it'll turn me into an even more rabid Russ Feingold advocate than I currently am.
"You say the world has lost it's love I say embrace what it's made of" -Dar Williams
by Valatan on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:32:00 PM EST
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Re: I agree (none / 0)

That's the spirit, people! Rally around Feingold! Unfortunately, I think you're wrong about Hillary. I think she will run. But we can stop her!

Deaniacs For Feingold!

by craverguy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:37:51 PM EST
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Feingold (none / 0)

I think that Hillary may surprise everybody and decide not to run.  Remember everyone thought that Al Gore was going to make another run in 2004 and then announce in late 2002 that he wasn't.  We could have the same type of thing with Hillary.  The MSM is already planning her convention and making her out to be the definite nominee as if she were an incumbent like Bill Clinton in '96 and Bush in '04.  I am for Russ Feingold!!!!
Max Friedman
by Max Friedman on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:52:51 PM EST
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Calendar (none / 0)

Iowa and NH went first when Al Gore won (and we all agree he did win) in 2000, and when Bill Clinton won in 1992 and 1996.
by nascardem on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:20:51 PM EST

Re: Calendar (none / 0)

Yes, but I tend to think they won despite having IA and NH first on the calendar.
by dwbh on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 08:24:29 AM EST
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Re: Calendar (none / 0)

Ask Carter, Clinton and Gore for yourself. Each one of them have been quoted supporting Iowa and NH in the past.
by Blue State Boy on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 08:51:27 AM EST
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Was that (none / 0)

before or after they ran for President?
Yeah, I'm cynical.
by catastrophile on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 02:24:48 PM EST
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"Delivering" States . . . (none / 0)

I agree with Falcon4e on the point that it is not a governor's job to "deliver" a state to a presidential candidate.  The fact is, Kerry was an inept candidate.  It was hard for people to get fired up about him.  The fact that he won 48% of the popular vote speaks only to the fact that there is a strong current of Bush-hatred in the country.  But a candidate has to make people like him/her, not just hate his/her opponent.  

And, out of curiosity, anyone here remember 1988?  Only ten states went for Dukakis.  Arkansas was not among them.  If we had adhered to the mentality of denying governors a shot at the presidency simply because they could not "deliver" their states, we wouldn't have had Clinton in '92.

With that said, I personally don't think that Tom Vilsack would make a good candidate; from what I've seen, he's too wooden, not charismatic enough.  But that has nothing to do with the fact that he is the governor of Iowa.  

by arlaur on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:45:02 PM EST

Re: "Delivering" States . . . (none / 0)

All that you say about Vilsack is true, but you left out something very important: he is a closet conservative.

The most egregious example of this would be the Values Fund, an exercise in corporate welfare which bribes businesses to stay in Iowa. The Fund is supposed to receive $500 million over the next five years and it already has $100 million. That money, which Tom Harkin, a great liberal, fought hard for in Congress, was intended to be placed in the general fund. If it had been, the state education budget would not have been slashed by $45 million and there would be hardly any "budget crisis" at all. Tom Vilsack chose corporate welfare over children's welfare, and I'm glad to see him going.

Ed Fallon for Governor!!!

by craverguy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 05:02:32 PM EST
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Long Primaries (none / 0)

The primaries ended with Super Tuesday in '04, with Kerry winning all except Vermont which went for Dean (finally).  I think that we should lengthen the calender and take out the prominence of Iowa and New Hampshire.  We pick two of the most rural, homogeneous states to have our major primaries.  The caucus system is also bad, with public voting and not really counting every vote.  I think that every state should just vote like they do on election day in November.  
Max Friedman
by Max Friedman on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:57:22 PM EST

iowa & nh ... (none / 0)

... are a waste of time.  we need 5 rotating regional primaries of roughly 10 states each & more or less equivalent electoral clout, one region per month starting in february.
s.
by synth on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 06:42:38 PM EST

Re: iowa & nh ... (none / 0)

Why are they a waste of time?  Why do we need 5 rotating regional primaries?  What is your reasoning?
by nascardem on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 06:52:53 PM EST
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Re: iowa & nh ... (none / 0)

i'm sure you can find more reasoned arguments by hitting google.  my thoughts on this are purely based on representation & fairness e.g. iowa & new hampshire are not representative of the country as a whole or as a base; & giving these two small states the power to select the democratic nominee every time out is unfair to other regions of the country.  a correlatory reason is the stupid things that politicians do to pander to those two specific constituencies like the whole corn / ethanol thing & farm supports & so forth.

there is no specific reason that i chose 5 except that 50 states are evenly divisible by that number.  if you wanted to do 10 primaries of 5 states each, say every other week, i'd be with you & actually, come to think of it, that might be better.

apologies for the late response.

if that helps.
s.

by synth on Sun Apr 24, 2005 at 03:41:08 AM EST
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Re: iowa & nh ... (none / 0)

Five regional primaries? And who would be able to compete in a regional primary? Small state governors like Carter, Clinton and Dean would have never have had any chance if there wasn't a starting point that is not impressed with the DC insiders.

Iowa and NH are the beginning of the process not the end.

Space out the primaries through the Spring, with no more than four at a time. That is the way to make sure grassroots involvement stays important post Iowa/NH.

by Blue State Boy on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 09:57:44 PM EST
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Re: iowa & nh ... (none / 0)

i don't have a problem with the 4 states / 2 weeks thing or whatever spaced out over the spring as far as scheduling goes.

i do have a prob. with keeping nh & iowa as the first electoral contests period because this gives them an undue influence on our electoral process.  this is especially true since neither of these states is reflective of the population of the country as a whole or of the democratic base.

there's also the fairness issue e.g. why should these two states continually have so great an influence on who is to be our nominee?

apologies for the late response.
s.

by synth on Sun Apr 24, 2005 at 03:44:08 AM EST
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GO HILLARY!! (none / 0)

First woman POTUS in 2008!
http://operationyellowelephant.blogspot.com/
by Vote Hillary 2008 on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 09:20:38 PM EST

08 is not 04 (none / 0)

In 2008, presuming Kerry runs again, he could very well opt for a "rose garden" strategy a la Reagan 80 and lay off IA, try to defend NH and prevent anyone from building any momentum against him. The problem for him in that respect is that Hillary Clinton can probably match him and maybe outdo him in name rec, fundraising and organization. Which means she too will have an interest not to get too drawn into an expensive foray into a small early state. She'll need to do well in the early states but not necessarily sweep IA/NH or even win either.

For both Kerry and Clinton, the goal in the early states will be to prevent someone like Feingold or Edwards from getting hot and attracting the "outsider"/ grassroots support. By laying off those early states, they can effectively lower the stakes in those early states and wait for the big Democratis states -- NY, CA, IL, PA -- where the money, name and org advantage will be to their advantage. In that scenario, its hard to see at this point how Kerry holds HRC off -- unless Gore gets in, too.

But its so very, very early.

NC moving to week 3 is irrelevant if Edwards runs. The Gooper pushing that bill is, I'm guessing, gunning for Frist.

by desmoulins on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 03:27:33 AM EST

We Still Can't Win as Bush Lite (none / 0)

Democrats need the primary season more than Republicans. We are the more disparate, heterogenuous of the two and we need primaries across America to fine tune the best possible candidate. Look at every primary since 1952....the Democrat who wins the Presidency usually is a creature of evolution over the primary season not the perjorative frontrunner.

Secondly, the Dean phenonomen is no bigger evidence of this. The established Clintoistas and DLC'ers were so happy to see Dean flame out like baked Alaska only to watch their "consensus candidate" get blown away by one of the weakest candidates in the history of the Republican Party. John Kerry, you just got oddjobbed by Rutherford B. Hayes.  

The convention isn't until the summer. Six months of primaries is just fine by me. Yes, I realize the big Dem corporations don't want to waste campaign dough on the winning horse...but why bother anyway? Why can't we impose spending limits on our candidates for each primary? Keep the playing field level, but keep it interesting.

Let the GOP have its coronation, we STILL CAN'T WIN as Bush Lite.

by risenmessiah on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 04:37:47 AM EST

Re: We Still Can't Win as Bush Lite (none / 0)

Umm, there are spending limits per primary if you accept the campaign matching funds. Which, as you know, Bush '00, '04, Dean '04, Kerry '04 were the only candidates since 1976 to opt out of.
by Blue State Boy on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 08:47:31 AM EST
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Wrong (none / 0)

That "weakest candidate" named Bush happened to be an incumbent governing during a period when the United States mainland had it's first attack directed against it in history.   Riiiiight,  that didn't affect people's psyches, and when combined with incumbency, made Bush a fat target.   And the bread lines and high inflation....yeah, people were calling for Bush's head.  

Keep telling yourself it was an easy election to win.

by Andmoreagain on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 12:06:22 PM EST
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Re: Wrong (none / 0)

Nice impression of Terry McAuliffe, too bad I don't buy it.

Bush was a totally weak candidate. He's the weakest Republican Presidential candidate since Ford. He had a tepid, jobless recovery and Iraq going haywire. And as an incumbent, he got less than 300 electoral votes.

Kerry lost because he didn't campaign hard enough for single, high-school educated women. After all, Bush's "insurmontable" lead happened because of the near miraculous timing of the Beslan school siege and the RNC. But furthermore, Kerry could have won those voters back because both Nevada and FLORIDA voted to raise the minimum wage...the major beneficiaries of that raise....highschool educated white women.

Secondly, is it any coincidence that with Bush's corporate greed that federal election campaign spending has exploded. Eveyrone understands, money talks. Neither nominee in 08 will take federal matching funds.

by risenmessiah on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 11:31:56 PM EST
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