A National Problem

Democracy Corps has produced a memo about the white Catholic vote. They portray it as an important swing demographic that Democrats need to target:
Less than a decade ago, Bill Clinton carried the white Catholic vote by 7 points (48 to 41 percent), but support for Democratic presidential candidates has fallen in successive elections, with Al Gore losing them by 7 points (45 to 52 percent) and John Kerry by a striking 13 points (43 to 56 percent) in 2004 - a 20-point swing against the Democrats over three elections. The drop in Catholic support is a big part of the 2004 election story, as Democratic support dropped sharply compared to 2000 in nearly all the eastern states, including New England. Kerry also lost some ground among white Catholics in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

What is this all about? Catholic voters have been a swing bloc since the mid-1980s, but are the Democrats being marginalized by a new surge of defections - comparable to the pull back of "Reagan Democrats" that shook the party between 1968 and 1984?(...)

To help progressives better address this challenge, Democracy Corps conducted a nationwide survey of 1,033 white Catholic voters, a unique resource for those tackling these issues.(...)

But this is not 1984 and not Macomb County, where I first spoke to the "Reagan Democrats." White Catholics have not gone Republican. They are divided evenly on almost every important policy question and political indicator, and indeed, on their basic world views. They are split 50-50 on whether the country is headed in the right or wrong direction, on their vote for Congress, on whether we need more or less regulation, whether we need more community or more self-sufficiency, whether abortion should be legal or not and on whether the Catholic church should be more modern or traditional. They are divided evenly between those who attend church every week and those who are less observant. And finally, they are evenly divided between those with a college degree and those without - closely related to the distinct worldviews that leave white Catholics so evenly divided.(...)

Bush's 13-point margin over Kerry among white Catholics was 10 points higher than the Republican advantage in partisanship - leaving a large bloc of voters available to the Democrats.

I have a pet peeve when pollsters and demographers compare how Democrats performed among given groups in 1996 and 2004. For starters, Clinton won in 1996 by 8.51%, and in 2004 Kerry lost by 2.47%. That means the entire country swung by eleven points from 1996 to 2004, so a twenty point swing isn't really as great as it would seem.

This brings me to my main critique of the memo. The problems white Catholics seem to have with the Democratic Party do not seem to be any different from the problem the rest of the nation has with Democrats. Here are the party associations among the white Cahtolics Democracy Corps polled:

			    Dems      Reps
Pro middle class		     53        39
Public interest first	     50        37
Cares about people		     49        36
7On your side		     46        43
For families		     44        44
Shares your values		     42        48
Keeping America safe	     30        52
Respects faith		     29        52
Knows what they stand for	     25        58
I'm not really sure what the difference between "shares your values" and "on your side is," but whatever. Is there anything really new here? The terrorism narrative, the religion narrative, the backbone narrative--it's all the same problems Democrats seem to be having with every demographic, not just white Catholics.

Our problem seems to be a national one, not one of targeted demographics. There are some vicious lies and narratives about the Democratic Party that the Republican Noise Machine is pumping out, and until we defeat them nationwide, we will remain in the minority. As long as the big lies persist, no plan to appeal to targeted demographics will have any impact.



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Yeah (none / 0)

I think Chris has it right.  I know these guys get paid to take polls and draw conclusions, and may they live long and prosper, but the lesson of this memo seemed to be that Catholic swing voters are just like other swing voters.

I guess to anyone who thinks that white Catholics are some massive voting bloc that goes around in lockstep with each other, this memo might be an eye-opener, if there is such a person.

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:20:31 PM EST

Kerry's Failure, Again--And How To Learn From It (none / 0)

Of course Chris is right. The Catholic demographics may be interesting in complex comparisons of various different sorts, but the bottom line is clear--it's a national problem, and it's one that revolves around showing some spine.  

Kerry was, indeed, the perfect potential person to take this on. But he failed miserably. He told us he was going to fight, then he warmed up with his shadow and went home once John McCain told him to cut it out.  

The "Keeping America Safe" numbers are a joke. But you can't turn them around without showing some spine--which is why it all comes back to that.  Ditto on "respecting faith."  Kerry could have said some wonderful things about this. Indeed, he started to do so back in July--the last month where he actually acted like a serious candidate, rather than someone going through the motions and checking things off in the to-do list Bob Shrum made for him.  He talked about faith and works, he talked about service, he talked about learning his values from his parents, he talked about how values were reflected in your deeds, rather than your soundbites.  It was a very good start. But if he actually believed all that stuff, why the hell didn't he pound the table with it every chance he got and twice on Sundays?  Why was he afraid to stand up and fight for what he believed?

The point of criticizing Kerry is simple--it's not to make the same mistakes.

We need to stand up and fight for what we believe in. We need to call them out on their hypocrisy and foolishness. We need to be fearless. And we need to be relentless.  None of this "saving up for the big one" BS.  You GAIN capital by fighting and winning. You gain RESPECT by fighting even when you can't win. And you gain OPPORTUNITIES when you fight, not knowing if you'll win. Moral: It ALWAYS pays to fight.  PERIOD.

by Paul Rosenberg on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 08:52:02 PM EST

One Thing I noticed as a Catholic (none / 0)

Chris,

As a Catholic who attends mass every Sunday, there was one very significant difference that I noticed compared to any past elections that I can remember. (including '92,'96, and '00 )

This was the first time ever that I experienced the Roman Catholic Church Leaders aggressively get involved in a Presidential election through their Sunday Sermons. ( Talk about separation of Church & State). I have never ever experienced PRIESTS in the past Use their Sermons to BLATANTLY take  sides on a Presidential election.

Anyone who is a practicing Catholic knows that this is very unusual for the catholic church to get directly involved in politics. It maybe more common in among Evangelicals, Protestant Churches or Baptists. The common practice with catholic churches is to maybe mention the Pro-Life issue once every month but not as a topic or as a sermon.

For one, Catholics & even Catholic priests are Divided between those who are "ONE ISSUE Catholics". This of course is the Issue of PRO-LIFE,  which makes them vote Republican everytime. While we have a large segment of Democratic leaning catholics who are Pro-Choice Catholics together with  those who believe helping the poor, fighting for lower income people & immigrants, racial equality, and many old Union Households (especially the Irish and Italian catholics) who still vote democratic.

But never before did I see Catholic Priests devote a sermon repeatedly to remind parishioners of our obligation as Catholics to be PRO-LIFE. The directive or what we call weekly pastoral letter would come from our Archdiose.

What bothered me was on the last 2 weeks of the campaign , our PRIEST emphatically used his sermon & said that "POLITICIANS who are Catholic but Pro-Choice should NOT be supported by any Good catholic. Obviously, the whole congregration knew that he was referring to John Kerry ( he being catholic & pro-choice).

After conferring with Catholic relatives and friends in other states such as NJ, NY and IL, THEY ALL SAID THE SAME THING. It was going on everywhere.

In fact, my entire family noticed how it escalated by the last two weeks of October as we got closer to the election day. It culminated on the Sunday before election day where THE PRIEST BASICALLY SAID that if you vote for the Candidate who is AGAINST LIFE, you will burn in hell.

In all my years, NEVER EVER do I recall the Catholic Church hierchy get so BLATANT and AGGRESSIVE in actually taking sides in a Presidential race.

In fact, I heard that the New Jersey Star Ledger, the Jersey Journal both in NJ & the New York Times did an article on this. They  FOUND some Catholics in NJ & NY ( MOSTLY SENIOR CITIZENS) who immediately went to CONFESSION right afer they voted for John Kerry ! SICK! That's how scared some people were of the threat by Priests of going to hell.

Some local democrats accused the Catholic Church of aggresively using the Pro-Life issue this election to MAKE-UP for SO MANY EMBARASSING & Negative Publicity of cases of Child Molestation.

CRAZY but True!  I am sure that made a difference in the catholic vote this election especially if it was done on a national level.

by fightingLadyinblue on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 09:17:04 PM EST

Re: One Thing I noticed as a Catholic (none / 0)

This is one reason why Casey in PA is important.  If the Catholic Church comes out against him it will show them to be pawns since his positions on "life" are as solid as Santorum's.
by comotion on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 11:02:29 PM EST
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Did you talk to your priest? (none / 0)

Did you talk to your priest?

The only way to do anything about this is if catholic domocrats speak up and tell their priests, the vestry, the lay people to stop!

You can have christian ed meetings to discuss the issue.  It doesn't have to be violent confrontation but democrat catholics have to speak up.  This is in your hands.

by aiko on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:02:23 AM EST
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Good luck with that (none / 0)

Look, as long as we continue to be pro-choice, then people (religious leaders and others) who think "abortion is murder" will encourage other people to vote against us.  We just have to live with that, or change our position.

This means that, yes, we have lost a lot of the Catholic vote, and there probably isn't a darn thing we can do about it.

The good thing is that a majority of people are at least somewhat pro-choice (although polling results vary a lot depending on how you ask the question-the most popular answer is something along the lines of "Usually legal, but not in all cases", which seems to be the feeling of 30-40% the population, on a four point scale (always legal, usually legal, usually illegal, always illegal)).

by Geotpf on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 11:31:05 AM EST
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How Times have Changed for Catholic Vote (3.00 / 1)

Once upon a time, Catholic voters were one of the most reliable Democratic Party bloc. Most especially if a Catholic was on the Presidential ticket.

1928 Catholic Democratic presidential candidate Alfred E. Smith brought out Catholic immigrant voters in record numbers.He carried 12 largest cities while his two democratic predecessors in 1924 & 1920 both lost those cities by over 1 million votes.
Most importantly, the inner-city Catholic voters started a shift in the balance of political power in the United States.

In the 1960 presidential race, the nation's second Catholic Democratic presidential nominee, John F. Kennedy, was saved by the Catholic urban vote in the rich electoral states of the Northeast and Midwest. In these regions, he carried over 80 percent of the Catholic vote.

As writer Michael Barone has pointed out, the Kennedy results "split the nation along religious lines, which is to say cultural lines, not along lines of economic class." Put another way: Kennedy's election was not a victory for liberalism, it was a victory for Catholicism.

Fast forward 2004 Presidential Election, the 3rd Catholic Democrat John Kerry runs for President.

He faced a born Methodist-Evangelical Christian George W. Bush. Bush touts himself as a  " Compassionate Conservative" who proclaims No-tolerance stance on issues important to Catholics. Kerry continues to struggle to separate his religious beliefs from his conflicting political voting record on teachings on abortion, funding of abortion, partial-birth abortion, gay-rights, domestic partnerships, and stem-cell research.

This has not set well with Catholic leaders throughout the United States who have expressed their disapproval.

New York's Alfred E. Smith Dinner, held annually in October, is the nation's premier Catholic event. In past years, the dinner's dais has showcased the United States' leading politicians, including Kennedy and Nixon in 1960, Reagan and Carter in 1980 and Bush and Gore in 2000.

Though unnoticed by a majority of U.S. Media, the Smith Foundation Board of Trustees chose not to invite John Kerry, a Catholic as a guest speaker, shattering any illusions John Kerry may have had concerning the attitudes of many of his Catholic confreres

Come election day, Catholic John Kerry fails to deliver the much needed Catholic vote. While he gets strong support from  Non-practicing "cafeteria" Catholics who are congregated in the northeastern and far western states that Kerry carried, practicing Catholics which are major voting blocs in the key swing states such as Ohio and Missouri did not come through. He also did below expectation among Catholic voters in states that he won such as Pennsylvania ,Michigan, and Wisconsin. In both PA & MI, the strong African-American support was able to offset the decrease in catholic support.

As Stanley Greenberg has often stated, these PRACTICING CATHOLICS are "those most committed to and identified with the Church and most likely to bring their Catholic identity into politics."

As a Catholic, the real story of the 2004 campaign will be that practicing Catholics emerged to defeat a man who was baptized a Catholic, served as an altar boy, and claimed he is a "believing and practicing Catholic."

by labanman on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 11:57:00 PM EST

This is not all I'm about (none / 0)

But from a strictly tactical position I have four words:

wedge issue
death penalty

phat

by phatass on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 12:20:33 AM EST

Let me amend this (none / 0)

Over the past few years the Republicans have suceeded in putting together a voter block that has never traditionally agreed on most points. They have done this with the abortion issue. There are other things they have done to do this. But their promises to outlaw abortion have been a huge carrot.

They've been successful in uniting evangelical protestants and Catholics under this banner. Gay rights has helped too. But I think abortion is the one banner they've been able to congregate under the most (no pun intended).

I think it's possible to split the Catholics from the evangelical protestants along the lines of punishment and grace.

This is a bit Manichean, I know, but it seems powerful.

There's more to the issue of the death penalty then meets the eye. The Catholic church has a rich history of social justice advocacy. The death penalty is just one of those points. If you just read the statement of the Nebraska Catholic Conference (just one example) you will see a strong progressive thread in their thinking. It's still there.

Furthermore, I think the Catholic church has been able to articulate the ideas of social justice as well as any group in the world. Even without their  use of cannonical references. I may disagree with their conception of when life begins but I do not disagree with their understanding and articulation of the concept of "respect" for life.

I think it behooves us to understand why the pope opposes the death penalty. Do a search for the phrase "garment of life".

By the way, I'm a pro-choice atheist.

phat

by phatass on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 12:40:20 AM EST
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This bears on yesterday's discussion of Tim Kaine (none / 0)

Whatever you think of the specifics of Kaine's comments, it's clear that he's trying to address the problem with the "Respects faith" number here.

His criticism of John Kerry on this has a lot of people upset with him, but I think he's essentially trying to make the case that rather than calling Republicans liars for characterizing Dems as unfriently to religion, Dems are going to get farther in the long run by showing more respect for faith.

It may be more effective to show the lie is a lie by  exhibiting the behavior that proves it's a lie than by calling the person who tells the lie a liar.

by redsoxkangaroo on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:36:20 AM EST

Re: This bears on yesterday's discussion (none / 0)

Redsox,
I agree with you.

What I will say is that Religion & Faith are extremely sensitive & personal for any religious person. If we start attacking church leaders directly by calling them liars or hypocrites, the overwhelming reaction of its church followers is to "Circle the Wagons" & stand by their leader.

How many times have we seen a congregation rally around their Pastor, a Reverand, or  Priest who has been accused of adultery or Molestation?

When it comes to Religion, many people who are religious will respond using deep Faith ( or blind faith for that matter), Trust, and Devotion  especially when someone they look up to & trust like a Pastor, Rev, or Priest is being personally attacked.

I better approach is to challenge their positions on the issues. Such as " How can you and your leaders say or teach you to be Pro-Life when it comes to the unborn but Pro-Death Penalty when it comes to the adults? Isn't all life valuable according to God? How can you say you are with the poor as Jesus was; when you support programs that hurt the poor?

What that does is get people thinking and reexamining their values & what the church teaches. We will never be able to convert everyone. However, all we need is even a minority to see the light, that's how it starts.

by labanman on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:07:44 AM EST
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Excellent Point phat (none / 0)

That's why I Believe the GOP leadership will never outlaw abortion. They use abortion as their wedge issue to attract various groups of people under the banner of pro-life. Without this issue, this coalition would surely break-up.

Their Christian supporters may be sincere in trying to outlaw abortion but the Republican Politicians are NOT.

If they were serious about outlawing abortion, what are the hell are they waiting for? They control all 3 branches of government!

The GOP is now using this same PRO-LIFE agenda  to attract the fastest growing immigrant groups that traditionally vote democratic such as the Latino & Filipino communities which are predominantly more conservative Pro-Life catholic groups.

These Republican politicians are the biggest hypocrites !  

by fightingLadyinblue on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 01:38:19 AM EST

Bill Bradley column in today's NY Times... (3.00 / 1)

take a look... very insightful, imo:
Hank

OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
A Party Inverted
By BILL BRADLEY

IVE months after the presidential election Democrats are still pointing fingers at one another and trying to figure out why Republicans won. Was the problem the party's position on social issues or taxes or defense or what? Were there tactical errors made in the conduct of the campaign? Were the right advisers heard? Was the candidate flawed?

Before deciding what Democrats should do now, it's important to see what Republicans have done right over many years. When the Goldwater Republicans lost in 1964, they didn't try to become Democrats. They tried to figure out how to make their own ideas more appealing to the voters. As part of this effort, they turned to Lewis Powell, then a corporate lawyer and soon to become a member of the United States Supreme Court. In 1971 he wrote a landmark memo for the United States Chamber of Commerce in which he advocated a sweeping, coordinated and long-term effort to spread conservative ideas on college campuses, in academic journals and in the news media.

To further the party's ideological and political goals, Republicans in the 1970's and 1980's built a comprehensive structure based on Powell's blueprint. Visualize that structure as a pyramid.

You've probably heard some of this before, but let me run through it again. Big individual donors and large foundations - the Scaife family and Olin foundations, for instance - form the base of the pyramid. They finance conservative research centers like the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute and the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, entities that make up the second level of the pyramid.

The ideas these organizations develop are then pushed up to the third level of the pyramid - the political level. There, strategists like Karl Rove or Ralph Reed or Ken Mehlman take these new ideas and, through polling, focus groups and careful attention to Democratic attacks, convert them into language that will appeal to the broadest electorate. That language is sometimes in the form of an assault on Democrats and at other times in the form of advocacy for a new policy position. The development process can take years. And then there's the fourth level of the pyramid: the partisan news media. Conservative commentators and networks spread these finely honed ideas.

At the very top of the pyramid you'll find the president. Because the pyramid is stable, all you have to do is put a different top on it and it works fine.

It is not quite the "right wing conspiracy" that Hillary Clinton described, but it is an impressive organization built consciously, carefully and single-mindedly. The Ann Coulters and Grover Norquists don't want to be candidates for anything or cabinet officers for anyone. They know their roles and execute them because they're paid well and believe, I think, in what they're saying. True, there's lots of money involved, but the money makes a difference because it goes toward reinforcing a structure that is already stable.

To understand how the Democratic Party works, invert the pyramid. Imagine a pyramid balancing precariously on its point, which is the presidential candidate.

Democrats who run for president have to build their own pyramids all by themselves. There is no coherent, larger structure that they can rely on. Unlike Republicans, they don't simply have to assemble a campaign apparatus - they have to formulate ideas and a vision, too. Many Democratic fundraisers join a campaign only after assessing how well it has done in assembling its pyramid of political, media and idea people.

There is no clearly identifiable funding base for Democratic policy organizations, and in the frantic campaign rush there is no time for patient, long-term development of new ideas or of new ways to sell old ideas. Campaigns don't start thinking about a Democratic brand until halfway through the election year, by which time winning the daily news cycle takes precedence over building a consistent message. The closest that Democrats get to a brand is a catchy slogan.

Democrats choose this approach, I believe, because we are still hypnotized by Jack Kennedy, and the promise of a charismatic leader who can change America by the strength and style of his personality. The trouble is that every four years the party splits and rallies around several different individuals at once. Opponents in the primaries then exaggerate their differences and leave the public confused about what Democrats believe.

In such a system tactics trump strategy. Candidates don't risk talking about big ideas because the ideas have never been sufficiently tested. Instead they usually wind up arguing about minor issues and express few deep convictions. In the worst case, they embrace "Republican lite" platforms - never realizing that in doing so they're allowing the Republicans to define the terms of the debate.

A party based on charisma has no long-term impact. Think of our last charismatic leader, Bill Clinton. He was president for eight years. He was the first Democrat to be re-elected since Franklin Roosevelt. He was smart, skilled and possessed great energy. But what happened? At the end of his tenure in the most powerful office in the world, there were fewer Democratic governors, fewer Democratic senators, members of Congress and state legislators and a national party that was deep in debt. The president did well. The party did not. Charisma didn't translate into structure.

If Democrats are serious about preparing for the next election or the next election after that, some influential Democrats will have to resist entrusting their dreams to individual candidates and instead make a commitment to build a stable pyramid from the base up. It will take at least a decade's commitment, and it won't come cheap. But there really is no other choice.

Bill Bradley, a former Democratic senator from New Jersey, is a managing director of Allen & Company.

by HKingsley on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:25:47 AM EST

I am mainly tired of people comparing what is not (none / 0)

Why did Dem corps not compare with 92.  May be because the results would be very different.

In 96, Clinton was the sitting president.  in 00, Gore was the sitting VP.

The only valid comparison would be 92 where Clinton, (challenger), beat Bush (incumbent).  But we all know that the results are quite different.

Democracy Corps is promoting Hillary here.  This is all they do.

by Mass on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:49:51 AM EST

Catholic vote (3.00 / 1)

As a middle-aged white Catholic whose family has stayed Democratic even when many of our neighbors and relatives defected on occasion, I read with interest the poll results.

I agree with many of the recommendations-the Democrats need to fight for the POOR again, as well as the "middle class."  I have an elderly Catholic friend, who is in her 80's.  She now votes Republican.  As a strong Democrat, I pressed her on the issue of what prompted her change.  She said that when she was young the Democrats were known to be the party of the workers and the poor.  The Democratic Party was not the party of the rich.  The Democrat no longer have this strong reputation.  I wonder if the Democrats talking about being "pro-business" and support of NAFTA, their identification with the academic elites, etc., have any  connection to the lost perception of the Democrats as being pro-worker.

The second main issue in losing this lady to the Republicans-is, of course-the abortion issue.  Millions of Catholics are pro-life, myself included.  I found myself wrestling, this election, not for the first time, with how I as someone who is pro-life can support the presidential candidate of a party that has told pro-life Democrats and Catholics that they are not welcome, and that panders shamlessly to NARAL Pro-Choice America.

I think that if the Democratic Party begins to fight for the people again, and says to hell with the lobbyists and the Big Corporations; and has the courage of convictions to at least become neutral on abortion-respecting the fact that millios of Americans view abortion as murder-they will have a chance of reclaiming vast numbers of formerly Democratic Catholic voters; perhaps even a smaller number of formerly Democratic white Protestant southern voters.

I'm not sure if this even will work.  But we have tried almost everything else, including running two white Southern Baptist candidates in the same years, 92 & 96, and a Southern Baptist in 2000, who could not even win a single Southern state in 2000.

Also, we need to fight with CONVICTION.  We can't seem to be taking a position based on political calculations.  We have to do it because we believe it to be the right thing to do.  That is why, (even though it is sickening to watch), Bush was able to convice substantial numbers of voters to vote for him even though they disagreed with him on many other issues-they felt Bush stood up for and fought for what he believed.

If the Democrats want to stay out of power for decades to come, absent a new Great Depression, all they need to do is keep on dissing the moral and religious convictions of millions of their formerly faithful supporters in the Catholic and evangelical churches.

by MichiganDemocrat on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 12:39:49 PM EST

Re: Catholic vote (none / 0)

MichiganDem,

I share your sentiments 100% on the Pro-Life issue. I too am a Pro-Life Catholic Democrat.
My family on both paternal & maternal has gone from 100% Democrat to I'd say 50/50 split between Republican & Democrat. The major reason is obviously the abortion issue.

It may be hard for Pro-Choice Democrats to understand or relate to this issue. However, it is probably the most sacred issue for millions of people because of our faith.  

As John Kerry said during the campaign, he himself as a Catholic is Pro-Life however he will never impose his beliefs on others.

That pretty much is my own personal justification for supporting Democrats. My wife & I nor any of our family would ever consider abortion as an option. However, we would never impose our belief's on others. We also realize that there are other important issues that we strongly disagree with republicans on.

But as a Democrat, I am still hopeful like you that someday soon & I quote you, "our Party will have the courage of convictions to at least become neutral on abortion-respecting the fact that millions of americans view abortion as murder."

This is why we keep hearing Pro-Life Democrats from all over the country all watching closely the candidacy of Pro-Life Bob Casey of PA.

From a purely political standpoint, it does not suprise me to see a start of an emerging split between conservative religious african-american churches & mainstream african-americans because of the Life issue. The same exact splitting trend is happening in the Latino community especially in the Southwest & parts of the northeast. The same thing is occuring in the largest Democratic bloc in the Asian American community which are the Filipino-Americans. You can see a split emerging among both in california & the east coast.

This is such a potent issue because of religious implications that our party CANNOT afford to ignore. Just as we lost a huge segment of the White Catholic vote, we will surely lose support among religious voters in other ethnic groups such as African-American, Latino, and Asian groups. No doubt, the GOP has done a much better job of exploiting this ONE ISSUE to their
advantage.  

As Howard Dean said during his run for the DNC Chair, "We ought not turn our back on pro-life people."

by labanman on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 02:48:13 PM EST
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