Fiercehearted Faction Calls for Bush's Impeachment

Fiercehearted Faction Calls for Bush's Impeachment

"High Crimes and Misdemeanors" as the criteria for impeachment?  Well, lets see... there's just so many to choose from...  Here's my partial list (done independently of the one at the impeachbush.org site):

  1. Rigging the '00 Election.
  2. Participation in and liability for 9/11.
  3. Misrepresenting intelligence to Congress and the American People in order to go to war.
  4. Flunking the global test: Violating UN resolve to allow weapons inspectors to finish their work before calling for the invasion of Iraq.
  5. +100,000 Iraqui civilian casualties.
  6. at least 1500 official US military deaths in Iraq.
  7. In reality probably upward of 20,000 casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.
  8. No Osama Bin Laden arrest.
  9. Halliburton.
  10. No WMDs.
  11. Derilection of duty to secure Iraqui conventional arms so they wouldn't be used on our troops.
  12. IraquiNam.
  13. Administrative incompetetence resulting in the loss of the Columbia crew and spaceshuttle.
  14. Signing the executive order resulting in Torturegate.
  15. Armorgate: Derelection of duty as Commander in Chief leading to 10s of thousands of U.S. casualties.
  16. Taking an enormous surplus and running up the national debt to record levels.
  17. Destroying the U.S.'s reputatation among the community of nations.
  18. Rigging '04 Election.

What more do we need???



Latest Military Fatality Date:  Mar 01, 2005

Total Fatalities since May 1, 2003: 1422
March 20th through May 1st: 139 Hostile US Fatalities Since May 1, 2003: 1029
Hostile Fatalities Since May 1, 2003: 1134
US deaths since July 2, 2003: 1292
(Pres. Bush announces, "Bring Them On") Total Fatalities since December 13, 2003: 1125
(Saddam Hussein is captured) Total Hostile Fatalities since December 13, 2003: 896
(Saddam Hussein is captured) * Other - Polish: 17
  • Other - Danish: 1
  • Other - Spanish: 11
1 Military Diplomat, 2 Army Soldier, 8 Central Intelligence Agents * Other - Italian: 20
  • Other - Ukrainian: 18
  • Other - Bulgarian: 7
  • Other - Thai: 2
  • Other - Estonian: 2
  • Other - Salvadoran: 1
  • Other - Netherlands 2
  • Other - Slovaks: 3
  • Other - Latvian: 1
  • Other - Kazakh: 1
  • Other - Hungarian: 1



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You know who runs that site, right? (2.00 / 1)

Ramsey Clark, the former Attorney General who serves/has served as legal counsel for Saddam Hussein's government, Slobodan Milsovic, Charles Taylor (of Liberia fame), and David Koresh.

He's also a big booster for everybody's favorite perrennial fringe-candidate, Lyndon LaRouche.

by craverguy on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 12:47:15 AM EST

Re: You know who runs that site, right? (none / 0)

Oh, that's weird.  Which site are you refering to???
Just another Jesus followin' Green for Constitutional Democracy. :-)
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by JamBoi on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 12:51:43 AM EST
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Re: You know who runs that site, right? (2.00 / 1)

VoteToImpeachBush.org, the site that you're referring us to.
by craverguy on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 12:53:20 AM EST
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okay I found his name on the impeachBush.org site (none / 0)

but you know what?  This is my PoV: whatever else RC may have done, and whether he was right or wrong about this that and the other, he's right about this.
Just another Jesus followin' Green for Constitutional Democracy. :-)
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by JamBoi on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 12:58:58 AM EST
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Re: You know who runs that site, right? (3.00 / 1)

Do you know who Ramsey Clark is?  Among other things, he was LBJ's Attorney General, was very active in the civil rights movement and a prominant voice against the Vietnam War.

Considering his prominant and outspoken career, we shouldn't be surprised that he has acquired a few critics.

I was watching Jon Stewart's coverage of the President of Lebanon's resignation. I think Bush could get a standing "O" if he resigned. At least from one side of the aisle. Who knows? Republicans might be just as happy to see Cheney move into the oval officer.

Standing "O"s for President Bush's resignation! Freedom is on the march in Lebanon. Why can't we have a little freedom here?

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 02:20:06 AM EST
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Re: You know who runs that site, right? (2.00 / 1)

Of course I know who he is, that's where I got the hit parade of his clientele.

Quick, let's see who I left out: two ex-Nazis, a genocidal Hutu from Rwanda, and the leadership of the PLO, who were being sued by the family of a wheelchair-bound tourist who was dumped overboard after they hijacked the Achille Lauro.

Wow! Nazis, mass-murderers, three human-rights abusing dictators, a cult leader, and a gang of terrorists. He sure seems like a liberal hero to me!

Did you know that Alan Keyes marched with Dr. King in Selma?

by craverguy on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 02:45:48 AM EST
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If you believe in due process, (3.00 / 2)

which is one of the core principles enshrined in our Constitution, then you believe that those who stand accused -- even the scum of the Earth and Satan's lapdogs -- are entitled to competent and independent advocates in court.

Otherwise, we could just label someone a "terrorist" and throw them in a hole somewhere without ever bringing them to trial, couldn't we?

If you don't believe in due process, then I understand your contempt for Ramsey Clark.

Yeah, I'm cynical.
by catastrophile on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 03:47:01 PM EST
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Re: If you believe in due process, (none / 0)

I agree with castrophile.  Any decent defense attorney will end up defending at least a few unsavory types.  And again, on this point RC is absolutely right: We must impeach Bush.  That's good enough for me. :-)
Just another Jesus followin' Green for Constitutional Democracy. :-)
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by JamBoi on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 04:34:03 PM EST
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Re: You know who runs that site, right? (none / 0)

Clark is very clear on the fact that he neither sympathizes with or condones the actions of the people he defends.  He's defending the [i]principle[/i] that everyone deserves a fair trial, no matter how heinous their crimes, or no matter how certain their guilt.  Part of the argument for this is not just about the individual's rights.  Take Saddam Hussein.  It would be very easy just to line him up against a wall and shoot him.  But by putting him on trial and laying his crimes bare, we're showing Iraqis and the world that Saddam isn't some larger-than-life all-powerful figure, but just a common criminal who will be justly punished.  And we're not making him a martyr for his remaining followers.  It's easy to glorify a guy who was killed by an invading army.  It's tough to glorify a guy in an orange jumpsuit doing the perp walk.

Also, fun fact: Did you know that Alan Keyes has absolutely nothing to do with anything we were talking about?  Why the non-sequiter?  Why not end your posts with fascinating tidbits about Gordie Howe?

"It's not enough to say you'll be ready from Day One - you have to be right from Day One."
by schroeder on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 05:16:25 PM EST
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How does that list compare to Travelgate? (3.00 / 1)

Don't forget Filegate!

As I recall, those were very serious impeachable offenses a few years ago. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that Tom DeLay had the rule of law revoked for Republicans. My bad.

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 02:25:58 AM EST

Re: How does that list compare to Travelgate? (none / 0)

Yeah, I agree. Even adding Lewinsky I still think it was an incredibly WEAK and LAME case the Republicans pushed for in impeaching Clinton.  Very clearly it was entirely partisanly motivated and they worked very hard to come up with SOMETHING and in the end they couldn't find much.
Just another Jesus followin' Green for Constitutional Democracy. :-)
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by JamBoi on Wed Mar 02, 2005 at 04:36:13 PM EST
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