More On Exclusion in the Blogosphere

Here at MyDD, I have posted semi-regular reports on traffic rankings in the political blogosphere (for example, here). Every time, liberal blogs come out with more total traffic. Lately, the ratio has been four to three in favor of liberal bloggers. That liberal blogs have around 33% more readers than conservatives blogs has left the media undeterred in heavily promoting right-wing blogs over and at the expense of left-wing blogs.

First, there was the Harvard conference on blogging, which invited almost no actual bloggers, and the one they did invite was from Powerline. Then came the CNN Inside Politics Segment on blogging, which talked about conservative blogs by more than a two to one margin. Now, we have the glory of the Brookings Institution upcoming panel on new media and blogging. Here are the guests:

Moderator: E.J. Dionne, Jr.
Senior Fellow, Brookings; Columnist, Washington Post Writers Group

Panelists:
Jodie T. Allen
Senior Editor, Pew Research Center

Ana Marie Cox
Wonkette.com

Ellen Ratner
White House Correspondent, Talk Radio News Service

Jack Shafer
Editor-at-Large, Slate

Andrew Sullivan
AndrewSullivan.com; Senior Editor The New Republic, Columnist, Time Magazine Live Bloggers

The following individuals will be watching the event, either in person or via the webcast, and providing online commentary in real-time on their respective blogs. Their commentary will also be shown on a projector screen at the event and on the webcast.

Daniel Drezner
www.danieldrezner.com

Ed Morrissey
www.captainsquartersblog.com

Josh Trevino
www.redstate.org

Wow, that's some balance there. Really impressive stuff. This certainly is representative of how the liberal blogosphere has a significantly larger readership than the conservative blogosphere. Matt Stoller and Sean-Paul Kelley sum it up as follows:
What has really irritated us in recent days was this post over at Digby's place about an upcoming event at The Brookings Institution. There are no liberals on the panel. And there are no liberals who will be live-blogging the event - in fact, all live-bloggers are right-of-center, two are even Republican operatives"Josh Trevino and Ed Morrisey. This is a serious problem, and while we don't mean to pick on Brookings specifically, nor do we wish Brookings to disinvite anyone the example presented here is especially egregious. There are other serious issues with diversity in media, but the lack of diversity in political opinions is at least as problematic as any of them. We'd like to correct this, starting with the panel at the Brookings Institute. Brookings went so far as to mislead a reader of Digby's saying that the following bloggers had been invited to site on the panel but declined: Juan Cole, Kevin Drum, Kos, Atrios, Matthew Yglesias, Bill Scher and Chris Bowers.
When the Brookings Insitutite was contacted about this, they claimed they had treid to contact liberal bloggers. However, Stoller and Kelley quickly showed that was a lie:
This week Sean-Paul tried to contact all of the bloggers asking them if they had indeed been invited to SIT on the panel. Six of the eight bloggers in question replied that they had not, in fact, been invited to sit on the panel. The other two were unavailable for comment. Only one said he had been invited, and that was only to live-blog the event. Yesterday, March 17, Sean-Paul called Patrick Gavin at the Brookings and asked him if he invited those same bloggers he said that he had, in his own reply. After much hemming and hawing Mr. Gavin said he had indeed invited many liberal bloggers to sit on the panel but was unsure which ones. After more question he could name only two: Markos Moulitsas Zuniga and Joshua Micah Marshall.
Steve Ghillard then adds:
OK, let's see, Kos is getting over some hellish illness he caught in Puerto Rico and his wife was dealing with a family crisis, information he published and Josh Marshall is getting married also information he published.

I call bullshit.

I call bullshit as well. Clearly, there was no serious attempt to include balance on this panel. Clearly, the organizers were not even aware what the main liberal blogs are. Clearly,. They had no idea that liberals blogs have a much larger readership than conservative blogs. Then again, what do you expect from a media insitution that that still thinks Powerline "broke" the memo story on conservative blogs. They can't even get that story straight.

I have tow thought son this. First, as Stoller noted in the commetns in the post below this one, the degree to which the media favors old line conservative and reactionary bloggers must be connected to the degree to which women are shut out from many of the prominent outlets of political pundrity int his country., Reducing particiaption among women is simply an extension of the general favoring reactionary politics to be found among the pundit establishment.

Second, some of this is the fault of liberal bloggers. While we may be a rising force in shaping opinion and grassroots activity, we are clearly suffering from many of the same problems that have afflicted liberals over the past thrity years that David Brock outlined in The Republcian Noie Machine. Simply put, we are not working as hard to get our faces on television, our quotes in newspapers, and our ideas into the national discourse as have our conservatives counterparts. I have little doubt that one of the reason conservative bloggers pack these panels and are talked about on these shows is because they are being aided by the larger conservative message infrastructure that exists primarily to ensure that every show and every panel is packed by conservatives. IT is the same ifnrastructure that works to guarantee conservatives domiante Sunday Talk shows and conservative think tanks dominate media citations. For crying out loud, Heritage send me fairly reguarly emails trying to rebut my posts. If they are paying attention to small fish like myself, I have little doubt that panels like the one above are domianted by conservatives.

They have insitutions to make sure that these panels and these shows are dominated by conservatives. We, byu contrast, have nothing, and that is our fault. That is why they win. That is why news opinions are always slanted in their direction. In order to counter this, we need to start, right now, to build an organization that makes sure that, for example, the Brookigns Institution is aware of liberal bloggers and invites them on panels. We need to make sure Harvard, CNN and anyone else holding a show or conference on this topic does the same thing. If we do not, in the future we will have a lot more panels like the one above to complain about, and very few to sit on.

In other words, it's everyone's fault, including our own.


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Don't Worry! (none / 0)

Conservatives will still keep referring to the "liberal Brookings Institute."

Can you imagine Heritage only inviting Markos, Chris  and Max Sawicky?

by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 03:23:20 PM EST

So, what do we do about it? (none / 0)

I'm thinking talking to each other about it is not going to get us very far.

And the irony of this comment? Not lost on me...

Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.
by boadicea on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 03:24:41 PM EST

Re: So, what do we do about it? (none / 0)

I think there's two things we can do, taking our cue from the right wing:

  1. From a tactical point of view, I think it would be worthwhile for BlogPAC, or some similar organization, to hire or otherwise incorporate a full-time PR function.  In this, I'm talking about doing something similar to what Heritage Foundation does -- if I recall correctly, they have six or seven full-time PR people constantly promoting Heritage to the media.  I'm not suggesting anything that extreme, since I think the blogosphere is more than a PR outfit.  But we clearly need to get the word out much more consistently and much more directly.  To get PR, we need to do PR.
  2. The major liberal bloggers need to look at holding their own conferences.

by jonweasel on Sat Mar 19, 2005 at 07:51:31 AM EST
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Blog Exclusion In MSM (none / 0)

I've seen Andrew Sullivan, and Ana Marie Cox  everywhere, but no liberal bloggers, or accurate information about same.   CNN has a dreadful,  segment re: Blogs on Judy Woodruff ea day. The two gals that pose as "blog mavens" have no idea.  They are embarrassingly inacurrate and ill informed [and show clear bias by featuring right wing blogs as often as possible].  What's out there in MSM is both ignorant and biased.  What to do about it??    MyDD, Kos, Marshall, Cole, etc,etc,......should INSIST [by contacting news media] and aggressively and publicly demanding representation . In other words, make some noise.
by morris1030 on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 03:46:44 PM EST

Here's What We Do About It (3.00 / 0)

from The Agonist:

Please call Bud Gordon at the Brookings institution and politely insist that they include a real liberal blogger at their event. Here are the numbers: 202-797-6310, or 202-797-6105. Or send an email to Patrick Gavin pgavin@brookings.edu

by TatteredCoat on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 03:48:32 PM EST

Re: Here's What We Do About It (none / 0)

Bud doesn't work at Brookings - he wrote the letter. Steve G. had a transposition of the names.

It prolly would be best if that is removed from this comment.

I'll pass along his thanks...........:-)

by zappatero on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 03:58:03 PM EST
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Re: Here's What We Do About It (none / 0)

darn--sorry about that.  The email address is correct--Patrick Gavin is the Media Relations Officer at Brookings.

[I can't edit the previous comment myself, can I?]

by TatteredCoat on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 04:44:42 PM EST
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They've added Ruy Texeira and Laura Rozen (none / 0)

Live Bloggers
The following individuals will be watching the event, either in person or via the webcast, and providing online commentary in real-time on their respective blogs. Their commentary will also be shown on a projector screen at the event and on the webcast.

Daniel Drezner
DanielDrezner.com

Ed Morrissey
Captain's Quarters

Laura Rozen
War and Piece

Ruy Teixeira
Donkey Rising

Josh Trevino
RedState.org

Apparently they didn't want the egg on their faces to spoil.

Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.
by boadicea on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 03:57:02 PM EST

Re: They've added Ruy Texeira and Laura Rozen (none / 0)

As Sean-Paul Kelley has pointed out in the comments to Gilliard's post, that's good, but it's not enough.  We need true liberal voices on the panel itself, not just blogging from the sidelines.
by TatteredCoat on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 04:54:35 PM EST
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Re: They've added Ruy Texeira and Laura Rozen (none / 0)

Actually, I think that's a very good start.  Rozen is a journalist, which hopefully means she'll be good at handling the media.  And Texeira is a consistently pro-Demcoratic/liberal voice.

The thing is, the truly major voices -- Kos and the dKos community leaders, Black, Bowers et al., are being avoided.  I'd like to know whether that's an oversight, or something a little more deliberate.  I suspect it's because the righty bloggers have connections from their more traditional institutions and make use of them.  If that's the case, liberal bloggers need to increase PR efforts, either directly or through someone willing to do the job for them.

by jonweasel on Sat Mar 19, 2005 at 07:55:59 AM EST
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BlogPac needs a PR firm (3.00 / 1)

BlogPac ought to hire a good PR firm to work on placement of blog writers on TV and to place OP-ED length blog (or blogger written) pieces on the opinion pages. Furthermore, a good PR outfit will be able to coach/prep our people so that their appearances achieve maximum positive effect.  

At the risk of sounding like a broken record I'll suggest again: BlogPac ought to hold a dedicated fundraising effort with a revenue goal (a bat) so that it has some real capital to work with. People are much more likely to give their $10, $25 or more if it's for a dedicated purpose or goal -- it gives their $10 a larger sense of purpose.

by Steve in Sacto on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 04:03:59 PM EST

Re: BlogPac needs a PR firm (none / 0)

Steve -- While I agree that BlogPAC would do well with a good media consult, I think you can do a lot "on the cheap":

1.)Speak at as many public forums and events as possible. That will give you the experience you will need to go be camera ready.

2.) Video tape yourself. There is NOTHING that is better than a bit of self-critique. Its so easy to figure out once you can see what you are doing. This bit of self-criticism can result in a very polished presentation of ideas.

3.)"Glam-up" a bit for the camera. No need to pull a Michael Moore, but style matters. Just like when you get a new website design :-)

4.)Press releases -- all the time. Become known to the key people.

by AnneinPhilly on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 05:20:00 PM EST
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Re: BlogPac needs a PR firm (none / 0)

Yea, you can do it on the cheap and you'll probably get the results you pay for.  I'd like to see a professional, polished, well-funded BlogPac that has a "political heft" that can't be ignored. Let's fund it properly, turn pro and play with the big boys.
by Steve in Sacto on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 08:13:34 PM EST
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Re: BlogPac needs a PR firm (none / 0)

Hmmm -- is this, perhaps, more an issue of networking?  Are their left-leaning PR firms who'd do this sort of thing just to "help the cause"?
by jonweasel on Sat Mar 19, 2005 at 08:02:47 AM EST
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one more of our failings (3.00 / 0)

Another point, Chris, from the comments in my blog post from liza sabater at Culture Kitchen:

Matt,

This is not only happening on the mass media level. There are serious inequities when it comes to the acknowledgement of left-wing and progressive women and minority bloggers within the blue blogosphere.

Here in NYC, Nichelle Stephens and I will host the first meetup of Brown Bloggers on April 10th. We have created this meetup and are talking with other black and latino bloggers across the nation; asking them to host the event in their areas.

http://www.culturekitchen.com/archives/002850.html

We are also working on hosting a similar series of events for women bloggers as well.

If you find it offensive that the Brookings could not summon the courage to call on Atrios or Digby to their panel, I find it even more appaling that within our so-called community of progressive bloggers, women and people of color are supposed to sit on the sidelines quietly and not complain about our lack of visibility or acknowledgement from the blue blogosphere.

This is not about preferential treatment. This is about strategic social networking.

There is no meritocracy within human groups --those who succeed do so because they have access to resources and/or the networks that will ultimately purvey them with what they need to sustain their activities. Traffic, visibility and acknowldgement are three resources a lot of women and minority bloggers, good writers and articlulate speakers, are lacking. That the usual 4 or 5 left-wing bloggers are always mentioned is preposterous. That Wonkette is even considered a progressive woman blogger is outright indecent.

But that Atrios or Kos will not pull an Intapundit on the blue blogosphere on a regular basis is telling of the problems of strategic linking and networking within the left. They just don't get that Republicans won because they are more diverse and more willing to spread resources across spheres of influence than the Democrats. So let me put it this way : The blue blogosphere has less than a year to adopt the social networking practices the Republicans have so successfully adopted through email lists, forums, websites and now blogs if we want to spread the blue across the Senate, Congress and states governorships and legislatures.

The countdown to 2006 is on. Get on with the program; because Atrios and Kos alone are not going to win anybody any elections --they already proved that in 2004.


by Matt Stoller on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 04:16:23 PM EST

Re: one more of our failings (none / 0)

Strategic Social Networking is the key. All of the progressive interest groups are far too isolated from each other.
by Gary Boatwright on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 04:35:59 PM EST
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More evidence of media liberal bias (none / 0)

Yep. Every time you turn around the damn liberals are dominating the media.
by Gary Boatwright on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 04:36:53 PM EST

Liberals don't have the money to compete (none / 0)

We liberals need to stick together and keep our network growing by grassroots efforts

Conservative bloggers have the benefit of business connections which bring them money and media connections to keep traffic coming to their sites

Here's a new blog - The Bloogeyman, go say hi

by QuasiMotive on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 05:38:34 PM EST

I would just say... (none / 0)

that you shouidn't care what these cubicle slave kiffs at Brookings try to say what blogging or new media is. They ain't close. Why waste your time trying to get them to understand what's going on?

Not worth your time

by janfrel on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 05:48:43 PM EST

Re: I would just say... (none / 0)

Because of their high and "independent" profile what they say will be seen as definitive. No matter how much we argue they're wrong.
Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.
by boadicea on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 07:08:57 PM EST
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One positive example (3.00 / 2)

The Nightline episode on blogging last week focused largely on me, a progressive woman blogger.  I actually got quite a lot of email from women who were really happy to see a progressive woman featured in a prominent story about blogging, since it's so rare.

What I found funny was that a few right-wing bloggers complained that it was liberal bloggers and "Deaniacs" who get all the good coverage about blogging.  :-)  Yeah, that's right.  "Deaniacs" get great coverage in the mainstream media.

Still, I completely agree with your concern about the over-representation of conservative bloggers in these forums.  I completely agree that we need to be doing more in terms of coordination and positive self-promotion.

(The artist formerly known as "Maura in VA"!)
by Maura in CT on Fri Mar 18, 2005 at 11:39:06 PM EST

Re: One positive example (none / 0)

Maura, you kicked some serious butt in that episode.

The key advantage for liberal bloggers, I think, is the sheer breadth and depth of our numbers.  There are just a few conservative bloggers with connections who get play.  But there are many more of us (perhaps hundreds) with the potential for blanket media exposure.

Frankly, what I'd really like to see is some sort of liberal PR firm that spends a large chunk of its time promoting various liberal bloggers as people to talk to on various issues.  For example, at dKos, we have many people with expertise in many areas.  Each of them should be promoted both for their existing work and for their ability to comment on specific subject areas.  The same goes for MyDD, Eschaton, etc.

by jonweasel on Sat Mar 19, 2005 at 08:01:25 AM EST
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For a bunch of ineffective invisible folk (none / 0)

Somehow we have moved the debate on Social Security a huge distance in four months. Like everyone I would like to see more balance in conferences and on punditfests, mainly because it would make our tasks easier, but when it comes down to it one strength of the internet is that you DON'T get credit for your good ideas. You post something smart, or witty and always backed up by solid links and it gets picked up and incorporated into people's worldviews. In the end it doesn't matter if it actually originated from you or is just something passed along, we didn't create the reality and don't deserve total credit for pointing it out.

Good bloggers and posters are educators, and like most teachers don't get the credit they deserve for the students they launched into the world. If you don't get satisfaction from seeing ideas that were once shared by a small number of people become the accepted reality for thousands of politically engaged people, then I suggest you are working in the wrong medium.

by Bruce Webb on Sat Mar 19, 2005 at 09:04:43 AM EST

We're too ethical (none / 0)

The "problem" here is that progressive bloggers are too ethical -- unlike the Jarvises and Coxes and  Sullivans and "Hindrockets" who show up at these conferences and on TV all the time, progressive bloggers don't try to capitalize on their blogosphere prominence for personal gain.  Progressives aren't out there looking for lucrative book contracts, or promoting a vision of the internet that just happens to coincide with the "business model" being marketed by our employers.  

What, IMHO, needs to be done is for people like Duncan and Josh and Kevin and Markos to have a list of people that they recommend for media/conference appearances when they are approached and decide not to participate.

by p lukasiak on Sat Mar 19, 2005 at 11:04:24 AM EST

Do Liberals get the "right" issues? (none / 0)

This thread hit a chord with me.

Although considered a liberal in my long years living in the US, my staunch opposition to Chavez in Venezuela has made me pass for a conservative in my blog.  Indeed I have been linked or cited by many a conservative site while liberals tend to either shut up or support Chavez.  

Yet my opposition is based on the ineficciency and the authoritarian tendencies of the regime, not on his social agenda which can be justified in Venezuela.  However, progressive folks in the US are only too willing to endorse Chavez as long as he attacks Bush intervention in Iraq.  All the other faults are simply swept away.

Yet, informed liberals such as Kerry did find time to condemn without any ambiguity the chavista regime and its human and civil rights violations.

There is perhaps a need to avoid such ethical double standards among Liberal bloggers if there is more media coverage desired, as seem to be the wish of this thread.  It is more than just a question of money to have access to TV.  Consistency and clarity of objectives will land you TV spots just as I was interviewed by a foremost liberal journalist in Venezuela, on her daily radio spot.  And this interview was in Spanish although my blog is one of the two English language political blogs from Venezuela, and as such could not ever aspire to astronomical hits obtained by either liberal or conservative blogs in the US.  Yes, Spanish is the main language of Venezuela and this was not an obstacle for me to land a spot on a radio show when many Spanish language blogs trash me in hits per day.

PS: and if you want acknowledgement of my liberal past I can refer you to a recent post that actually illustrates in part what I am talking about

http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2005/03/tale-of-venezuelan-in-boston.html

by danielinyaracuy on Sat Mar 19, 2005 at 09:05:23 PM EST


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