DLC maneuver on Social Security

One concept that has grow acceptance with most Democratic strategists is that it is important for Democrats to stand together on major issues.

We can be liberal, moderate, conservation -- anywhere in between, but we need to stand together as Democrats united. Especially on Social Security. That is why today's action appear to be the begining of an effort to provide rationalization for selling out our Party. This worries me greatly, and must be stopped immediately.

MSNBC's First Choice

All of which must be encouraging news for Democrats.  SenatorsCorzine, Schumer, and Boxer (all D) hold a 10:45 am presser today to share constituent feedback -- presumably all bad for Bush -- from their town halls last week.  But Marshall Wittman, formerly of the Heritage Foundation and now of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, warns Democrats that "defeating Social Security is not necessarily going to be devastating to the Bush Administration." [...]

They also caution Democrats that blogosphere is "not representative of most of the American people" and that it could actually have a "pernicious effect" on how the party is viewed because it's polarizing and getting too much media attention.[...]

In talking about social issues, From said, "We don't show enough respect for people who might disagree with us."

Nope. No respect for people who say, "Hey-Hey, Ho-Ho, Social Security has got to go."

What really scared me is that somehow the DLC managed to oust Josh Marshall to a vacation-exile and take-over Talking Points Memo:

He's going to lose this fight, folks, whether or not one or two Democrats in the House or the Senate give him "cover" by offering some sort of deal that neither party will accept.

Kilgore providing cover for selling out while Wittman says selling out isn't bad because we couldn't win too much and From saying we respect the people who sell out?

Well I've read THE REAL Joshua Micah Marshall

Are you a registered Democrat?

Are you currently employed as a United States Senator?

Are you thinking of cutting a deal with Sen. Lindsey Graham?

If you can answer 'yes' to these three questions, read this.

So I followed the link to Matthew Yglesias...

This is a moderately bad idea on policy terms, and a simply terrible political idea.

Most crucially, the House Republican leadership has already ruled it out. Thus, the only possible effect of brokering a compromise of this sort with moderate Senate Republicans would be to create a conference committee in which whatever concessions the GOP makes to turncoat Democrats will be purged from the bill. Then, having already conceded the high ground on the need to "do something" and on the point that the "something" ought to involve private accounts, turncoat Democrats will be forced to argue that the only problem with the conference report on the phase-out is that it doesn't raise taxes. This will, at best, transform a political winner for the Democrats into a political loser and, at worst, lead to the passage of a bad phase-out bill.

Democrats are winning this fight, and should accept nothing less than surrender. Once the GOP has given up on phasing out the plan, we can either start a serious conversation about finding a balanced approach to Social Security reform, or else move on to addressing more pressing fiscal issues. Until then, trying to compromise with a party that knows no procedural or ethical restraints on its conduct and that's led by a president who's apparently hell-bent on destroying Social Security is a losing deal.

And I've read Atrios:

What's the point? Let's imagine that Lindsey Graham and, say, Senator Snoe Snieberman manage to hammer out some sort of compromise bill that even I would find almost reasonable. If there's anything reasonable in it, those reasonable parts won't actually appear in the House version of the bill. So, it'll go to conference, where the White House and DeLay's goons will just turn it into the bill they want.

There's no reason for any Democrat to take this course for strategic political purposes. They can win this issue in all 50 states if they have any sense. And, there's no way anything approach sensible will emerge from conference, no matter what lovely deal they manage to strike with Graham in the Senate.

And I've read Kos:

No compromise on social security.[...]

The GOP is drowning. No need to throw them a lifeline. As Carville says, throw them an anvil.

The DLC should be worried about the blogosphere, because when it comes to compromising on Social Security -- we're right.



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Dude no one ousted Marshall. (none / 0)

I hope you were kidding there.  He and Kilgore happen to be friends.
by Teaser on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 02:55:47 PM EST

Al From is a NEO CON REPUBLICAN (none / 0)

www.washingtonpost.com :
The chamber is at the forefront of a quiet revolution in business lobbying. Corporate groups now raise big money to advance broad issues, largely to help the Republican president enact his fiscal agenda.

www.washingtonpost.com :
The chamber also contributed more than $4 million to the November Fund, a group that attacked Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry for choosing a former trial lawyer,for choosing a former trial lawyer, John Edwards, as his running mate

www.washingtonpost.com :

The chamber has hired the Swiss Guard of paid consultants from both political parties. Several showed up at a recent dinner hosted by Donohue at the chamber, including Al From

www.ndol.org :

From is a member of the Board of Directors for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce National Chamber Foundation.

Can we now agree that AL From is a rat fuck couldn't give a shit about Democrats or anyone who is not putting payola in his pocket. It is getting ridiculous that Democrats are still taking this asshole seriously.

Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 03:23:14 PM EST

Re: Al From is a NEO CON REPUBLICAN (none / 0)

I thought we had already agreed on that after what he did to Bill Bradley back in 2000.
by craverguy on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 03:25:35 PM EST
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Re: Al From is a NEO CON REPUBLICAN (none / 0)

Or is he an Israel-firster?
Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 03:45:03 PM EST
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The DLC centrists are deluded (none / 0)

Feinstein, Lieberman, Biden and the whole lot of them seem to have learned the wrong lesson from Kerry's defeat. Whittman and Kilgore seem to have come away from the election with the theory that the Democratic party needs to be more centrist and more accomodating of Bush and DeLay.

Whittman wants Dems to ignore the netroots so his consultancy cronies can hang on to power. We may have to pry it out of their cold, dead hands. Move On and/or BlogPac may have to mount primary oppostion to all of them.

by Gary Boatwright on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 03:48:48 PM EST

I've Said the DLC has Got to Go! (none / 0)

Visit my weblog; I've taken aim at the DLC, but I need your help!
by Political Junkie on Tue Mar 01, 2005 at 05:30:30 PM EST


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