Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots

With their attempts to de-fund lawyers, unions, and with their attempts to disenfranchise minorities, when Republicans are in power they consistently work to consolidate their power literally by shutting their opponents out of the process. Unfortunately, sometimes liberal groups help them, such as in the latest example:
The Federal Election Commission "next month will begin looking at tightening restrictions on political activities in cyberspace, a controversial move that makes some FEC officials uneasy," Roll Call reports.

"Specifically, the FEC is planning to examine the question of how Internet activities, when coordinated with candidates' campaigns, fit into the definition of 'public communications.'"

Restrictions coming? We will see about that. I'd make some sort of defiant statement, but I've already written enough to warrant a "visit" for one day.

The Federal Election Commission next month will begin looking at tightening restrictions on political activities in cyberspace, a controversial move that makes some FEC officials uneasy.

“I don’t think the FEC should do anything that restricts or interferes with the ability of citizens at the grass-roots level to use the Internet or support the candidates of their choice,” said Michael Toner, the Republican vice chairman of the FEC.

Specifically, the FEC is planning to examine the question of how Internet activities, when coordinated with candidates’ campaigns, fit into the definition of “public communications.” While coordinated communications are considered campaign contributions and therefore subject to strict contribution limits, current FEC regulations adopted in 2002 carve out an exemption for coordinated political communications that are transmitted over the Internet.

Last year, a federal judge challenged that provision, saying that “to allow such expenditures to be made unregulated would permit rampant circumvention of the campaign finance laws and foster corruption or the appearance of corruption.”

But Toner said there is no evidence that Congress intended to regulate the Internet when it enacted the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, also known as the McCain-Feingold bill.

“Congress is clearly familiar with the fact that the Internet is an increasingly important tool in politics and yet did not mention it in the McCain-Feingold law so ... I still see no evidence that Congress intended to regulate the Internet at all,” Toner remarked.

Dave Mason, another Republican who sits on the FEC, also worries that that agency may be treading “into that thicket” that will cause “almost certain damage to political freedom.”

The territory is not completely uncharted for the FEC.

In 2001, the agency issued a “notice of proposed rulemaking” on the use of the Internet in federal elections, but after collecting public comments from dozens of individuals and holding a hearing, the agency opted not to issue any new regulations. FEC officials decided the subject deserved more examination and research and that it did not have sufficient resources to tackle the tough questions related to regulating the Internet.

And interestingly, before BCRA’s enactment, the FEC did define general public political communications to include those made on “any electronic medium, including the Internet or on a Web site.”

But Mason said the agency’s “hands-off” approach to Internet activity has worked well in the post-BCRA environment.

“We don’t get complaints about it, or outraged newspaper articles,” the commissioner noted.

But this time the agency may have little choice in the matter.

Last fall, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ruled that the agency had erred in its interpretation of several portions of BCRA, including its exemption of the Internet from coordinated communications.

“The Commission’s exclusion of Internet communications from the coordinated communications regulation severely undermines FECA’s purposes,” Kollar-Kotelly wrote in her September 2004 opinion.

Siding with Reps. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) and Marty Meehan (D-Mass.), BCRA’s two key House sponsors, Kollar-Kotelly concluded that not regulating such expenditures would “permit rampant circumvention of the campaign finance laws and foster corruption or the appearance of corruption.”

Mason, who had wanted to appeal that part of the judge’s decision but couldn’t get enough backing from his colleagues, said he views her ruling as “very unfortunate.”

“I understand the rationale of the judge’s ruling, but I think it’s really a horrible example of regulation for its own sake that is not justified by any problem that anybody’s been able to point to in terms of abuse [or] corruption,” Mason said.

For his part, Toner is concerned about just how far any potential regulations could reach and whether a crackdown on certain Internet activities, for example, might unjustly endanger unsuspecting campaign volunteers who are active on the Web.

“If we do decide to regulate the Internet, it’s going to put on the table a lot of important issues such as what is the value of Internet activity is, particularly when it’s coordinated with candidates or political parties,” Toner explained. “And if we take the position, which I’d be very uncomfortable doing, that if an individual volunteering with a candidate consults with a candidate on his or her Internet activities, e-mails, Web sites ... are we really going to be viewing that as an in-kind contribution to the candidate? And if so, is that going to be putting people in jeopardy?”

But critics of the watchdog agency insist that the judge has done nothing more than instruct commissioners to correct a loophole in the law that will only get bigger as the political uses of the Internet expand.

“It would be completely irresponsible now for the FEC to ignore the mandate of the campaign finance laws twice after having been told by a federal district court they were wrong,” said Democracy 21 President Fred Wertheimer.

“This isn’t really an issue about the Internet,” Wertheimer added. “It’s an issue about the potential illegal coordination between a spender and a candidate regardless of where the money is being spent.”

According to Wertheimer, “there’s absolutely no rationale that says, ‘I can’t spend a million in coordination with the candidate on TV advertising, but it’s OK to make the same expenditures on Internet advertising.’”

Carol Darr, an expert on politics and the Internet, is in agreement.

As director of the Institute for Politics, Democracy & the Internet at George Washington University’s Graduate School of Political Management, Darr has closely tracked the explosion of Internet advertising in the political arena, and she sees a potential for abuse if the FEC does not act.

“The Internet does not have a monopoly on free speech, and there is no logical reason why communications that are coordinated with a candidate and which would otherwise be treated as a contribution should escape regulation simply because they occur online,” Darr said.

Not so, challenged James Bopp, a Republican lawyer who challenged the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act on behalf of the Christian Coalition and the National Right to Life Committee.

“There’s good reason to keep your hands off the Internet,” Bopp said.

Regulating communications on the Internet makes little sense, Bopp argued, especially considering the fact that the costs of such activities are typically very low — if not entirely free — and therefore create no risk of corruption.

“Of course the FEC has approved the idea of de minimus costs, the use of corporate facilities by an employee — you can make a [photo] copy. You can pick up your phone and make a phone call,” Bopp explained. “And it always has seemed to me that the activities on the Internet are so cost-free that we’re not really talking about money influencing elections.”

Wertheimer rejected the notion that cyberspace offers cut-rate, closeout prices for campaigns.

“The idea that you barely spend anything on the Internet is an illusion when it comes to campaigns,” Wertheimer said. “There is an awful lot of money being spent on advertising on the Internet.”



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I'm sure the Freepers will be very pleased (none / 0)

not to mention LGF and Powerpoint. Instapundit shouldn't have any problem with restriction of his first amendment rights. Move On? Nah, you won't hear a peep out of them. Howard Dean? hmmmm. Will the new Chair of the DNC have a comment or two? I don't think this one is going anywhere, but we certainly need to respond.

They just keep passing out ammunition. Leads me to comment, "Democrats don't defeat Republicans, Republicans defeat Republicans."

by Gary Boatwright on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 04:52:08 PM EST

the menace (none / 0)

Well, as you can see from the article, it's not the Republicans that are attempting to put up a noose for the internet, it's the liberal advocacy groups in DC. And the judge that imposed that activist ruling was also a liberal.

There's two different things here. Movement onto regulating the internet, which is being headed by the wrong-headed extension into gov't by the same mentality we find among the campus blogethicists (it's the Democrats on the FEC that are the problem), and another round of CFR by the Republicans.

To be honest, I'm more afraid of what McCain-Fiengold-Lott are going to do this round of CFR than anything sociatal advocates alone might attempt. With a Republican majority, and the "internet experts" the likes of Carol Darr & Zephyr Teachout giving them wind to their back, we could wind up with legislation that organizationally puts the fix in for a Republican majority through the banning of 527's, but neverminds the internet in the end.

by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 05:06:20 PM EST

Our side poses the danger and it's multi-sided (none / 0)

http://www.softmoneyhardlaw.com/outside/index.cfm

I thought I had posted this when Chris wrote about 527's and BCRA.  It's a website run by Perkins Coie about campaign finace issues. It has the spring "04 discussion about regulating 501(C) and (C)4's out of relevancy.  But it is a very useful site.

In my post,link below, I wrote from my experience on a non profit advocacy board that extendign BCRA political committee status to (C)3's and(C)4's would be a way of shutting up the left.

http://debcoop.mydd.com/comments/2005/2/6/13289/30564/7#7

And again the danger comes not just from the right but the so called liberal watchdog groups who can be relied upon to come up with some cockamamie "fair process" rationale which helps to destroy the left.  

These kind of unseeing and clueless idealists are just as dangerous as the right wing because the right wing exploits their process obsessions to defund the left and shut us up.  Remember that the California referenda and initiative procedures were invented by the turn of the century progressives to give power to the people, not legislatures.  Well over time it gave power to those who already had money and power.

PS this is why I am sceptical of redistricting by commission proposals versus the legislature.  Another process reform that can be hijacked by the right wing.

by debcoop on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 06:37:29 PM EST
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Re: Our side poses the danger and it's multi-sided (none / 0)

I am guilty of careless reading skills. Liberals are certainly as guilty as conservatives of supporting stupid ideas. It looks to me like a solution in search of a problem. One statement that disturbs me is the one by Wertheimer:

Wertheimer rejected the notion that cyberspace offers cut-rate, closeout prices for campaigns.

"The idea that you barely spend anything on the Internet is an illusion when it comes to campaigns," Wertheimer said. "There is an awful lot of money being spent on advertising on the Internet."

That seems way off base to me. Is there anything remotely close to the amount being spent on national media getting spent on the web? Either Wertheimer is very poorly informed or I am. It would not surprise me that Wertheimer, the judge as well as Meehan and Shays are misinformed. Is this accurate at all?

Siding with Reps. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) and Marty Meehan (D-Mass.), BCRA's two key House sponsors, Kollar-Kotelly concluded that not regulating such expenditures would "permit rampant circumvention of the campaign finance laws and foster corruption or the appearance of corruption."

Is it even possible to spend, let's say $20 million on internet advertising? "Rampant circumvention"? The "appearance of corruption"? Somebody remind me. How many hundreds of millions of dollars are in the anti-Social Security warchest? How many hundreds of millions of dollars did Wall Street and Big Pharma make in "legal" campaign contributions?

If they are in search of the appearance of corruption, Meehan and Shays might want to start with their own campaign contribution lists.

by Gary Boatwright on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 07:24:48 PM EST
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Re: Our side poses the danger and it's multi-sided (none / 0)

If you go to the website above and check out proposed draft regs on 501(c)'s all it took in terms of expenditures top make one a political committee rather than a stand alone advocacy group was $1000.00!!!!! Nada in terms of corruption but it puts us all under the purview of incredibily rigid rules around when one can advocate in a campaign season.  

These kinds of rules are recipes for censorship and right wing control of new media with our own connivance from fools like Meehan and Feingold.

by debcoop on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 11:12:35 PM EST
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DOA (none / 0)

This is dead on arrival.  Nobody on either side of the aisle is for this, and I'm sure that the GOP blogs would work to defeat this just like we will.  Nothing to really worry about.
Max Friedman
by Max Friedman on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 05:44:54 PM EST

leave us alone! (none / 0)

WTF?!?

Darr and Zephyr are not practitioners of internet politics.  Why can't they get the fuck out of our world and let us speak for ourselves?

by Matt Stoller on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 05:46:06 PM EST

Re: leave us alone! (none / 0)

Darr is mentioned in the article Matt. It doesn't look to me like anybody is being drug into this except by themselves. If that is not the case, please feel free to clarify the record.
by Gary Boatwright on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 07:14:18 PM EST
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An awful lot of money (none / 0)

Just what are Darr and Wertheimer smoking?  How much do they think an email is worth to a campaign?  Or even a thousand piece email blast for that matter?  These things cost pennies, not millions of dollars.  How much are we going to say a website is worth?  Total it up:  open source CMS running on a free database hosted for $10/month or less -- before you know it, you're talking real money here.  The fact is that the actual cost of Internet communications is not in cash outlay, but the time spent by the communicator in posting up his or her communication.  I guess we should start keeping time sheets.  Any of you lawyers out there know a good open source application for tracking the hours spent on blogs?
by michaelday on Mon Feb 14, 2005 at 08:18:40 PM EST

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by 88 on Tue Aug 01, 2006 at 09:41:55 AM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by 88 on Sat Aug 12, 2006 at 11:11:26 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

玻璃油漆 玻璃涂料 自干漆 烘烤漆 玻璃工艺漆 特效漆
by dxw888 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 01:23:26 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by dxw888 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 01:30:10 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by dxw888 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 01:39:45 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by dxw888 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 01:43:05 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by dxw888 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 01:45:17 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by dxw888 on Thu Aug 24, 2006 at 01:46:44 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by 88 on Sun Dec 03, 2006 at 11:32:58 AM EST

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by 88 on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 10:21:56 AM EST

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by 88 on Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 09:21:17 AM EST

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2.地基主一 般沒有供奉 神位或神像 ,民眾祭拜 時只要在房 屋的前門或 後門擺設供 品,向屋內 祭拜即可。
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by 88 on Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 06:25:20 AM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

讓您更容易 適應新環境 的方法【入 厝 習俗】﹕
1.在搬家(୲ 5;別是搬入ੌ 6;經有人居߮ 3;過的房子ᦀ 9;時﹐請準ࠏ 3;一個便當ᦀ 8;暫時)和ৢ 8;地基主用௚ 0;金紙 (可詢問販 賣金紙的店 家)。而一 定要在入厝 的當天下午 三至五點( 15-17)之間祭 5308;地基主。
2.地基主一ഄ 4;沒有供奉ణ 0;位或神像᥮ 4;民眾祭拜ਹ 8;只要在房ऺ 7;的前門或঎ 0;門擺設供ࡹ 7;﹐向屋內త 5;拜即可。
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by 88 on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 08:15:41 PM EST

Re: Congress Moves To Destroy Netroots (none / 0)

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by 88 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 01:41:23 PM EST


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