Rasmussen Poll on Wiretapping

This polling data is not a surprise.

Sixty-four percent (64%) of Americans believe the National Security Agency (NSA) should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that just 23% disagree.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans say they are following the NSA story somewhat or very closely.

Just 26% believe President Bush is the first to authorize a program like the one currently in the news. Forty-eight percent (48%) say he is not while 26% are not sure.

First of all, almost everyone agrees the President and the government has the right to listen in on suspected terrorists.  Hell, they can even listen in on ordinary ole' criminal suspects.  That's not the point.  The issue is whether the President can order the government do so without a warrant and expressly against statutes written by Congress.

In other words, can the President break the law whenever he wants to?

It's becoming clearer and clearer we're going to need to do our own polling on this.

UPDATE: Americablog analyzes the politics. These are awful numbers for Bush.

Even I would probably approve of the NSA listening in on phone calls between suspected terrorists and "people living in the US" - notice the survey question didn't even say "Americans," it said "people living in the US," a description that would get EVEN MORE support for spying (i.e., people are more apt to approve NSA spying on foreigners in the US rather than US citizens in the US).

That number should have been in the 90 percentile and up, Americans who support the NSA eavesdropping on conversations with suspected terrorists. Yet it was only in the low 60s. Something's up.

And may I also add that the poll question has nothing to do with the current scandal. It says nothing about whether the administration should be able to break the law in doing such eavesdropping, nor whether the administration should be permitted to do such eavesdropping without having first obtained a court order. Again, each of those added facts would presumably lower the poll number considerably.

Again, that number should have been in the 90s. The fact that only 6 out of 10 Americans are willing to agree to such a broad question, to me, says that Bush is not on solid ground on this issue at all.



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Write The Questions, And The Answers Don't Matter (none / 0)

This is the most naked example of something that's been pointed out by many different people over the years: that polls play a crucial role in framing the legitimating discourse of minority rule in our country.

The minority rules via agenda-setting, and this poll is a classic example of how agenda-setting works.

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 04:49:46 PM EST

No kidding (none / 0)

Matt-- You're absolutely right.  How do we make that happen?
by Abby on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 05:01:08 PM EST

Re: No kidding (none / 0)

Working on it.
by Matt Stoller on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 06:26:07 PM EST
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"like the one currently in the news" (none / 0)

Just 26% believe President Bush is the first to authorize a program like the one currently in the news. Forty-eight percent (48%) say he is not while 26% are not sure.

I guess it depends on what your definition of "like" is. We know Nixon did it, but FISA, which expressly outlawed the practice, wasn't on the books back then. (The Constitution was, but the courts have been distressingly willing to bend over backwards to say the Fourth Amendment doesn't really mean what it says.) And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that any President since (save Carter) had done at least a little illegal wiretapping. So it's true that Bush isn't the first, at least for certain values of "like."

But apparently, Bush has vastly exceeded his predecessors in scale (not to mention brazenness). As written, the poll question only obscures this fact.

If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 05:51:51 PM EST

Valid polling (none / 0)

The only way you can do this is by making sure you do it in a manor that is consistant with the percentage of xyz in the country this is the real trouble Zogby got into. It's polls aren't weighted correctly and they got called on it
by orin76 on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 08:21:27 PM EST

Please run a decent poll on this (none / 0)

If you put up a tip jar I'll put in $.

by alevin on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 09:35:33 PM EST

alito, defender of privacy? (3.00 / 1)

somewhat related, but check this out... i haven't gotten a chance to read through it yet...

alito's 1972 report on privacy

a sample quote:

"no private sexual act between consenting adults should be forbidden. discrimination against homosexuals in hiring should be forbidden," alito, writing the "report of the chairman" in the 1972 privacy report.

time to boycott alito, AFA?

he wrote some stuff about wiretapping too ... would he disagree w/ bush?? (haven't read that part either, sorry)

by jessev on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 11:04:35 PM EST

There is nothing wrong with eavesdropping (none / 0)

...as long as you get a court order first...
by jasmine on Thu Dec 29, 2005 at 10:44:00 AM EST

Re: There is nothing wrong with eavesdropping (none / 0)

Democrats should hammer this and not let Republicans spin the issue--ie.,make the issue about eavesdropping when the issue is overstepping the courts.

And not getting a court order for eavesdropping is abuse of power.

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