Glory to the New York Times and the Washington Monthly

First of all, whatever gripes you may have about the New York Times, their stories on wiretapping are just unbelievably good, essentially so.  Any discussions about the power of blogs need to be understood with these stories in mind.  Raw great information is expensive to produce, and takes guts and credibility to put out there.  There's political bullshit in how they operate, but at the end of the day a well-functioning New York Times is in all of our interests.  We should remember that.

Second of all, senior editor of the Washington Montly Benjamin Wallace-Wells made a stand-up move in acknowledging in a big way his errors on the Kos piece.  Everyone makes mistakes, and in this case, his mistakes were amplified by a sensitive internet.  Kudos to Wallace-Wells for acknowledging error.

Finally, one point on the media. I have never liked the term MSM, and I will not use it, because what we do is not in opposition to 'the mainstream'.  We are mainstream, we just aren't top-down.  It is the right that seeks to craft a narrative where there is a 'mainstream' and then two political partisan groups, because they want to destroy the very language of common political discourse.  What we by contrast seek is not an end to a 'mainstream' media, what we seek is a well-functioning and accountable media system.  That means restoring accountability to what is a still functional top-down media.

UPDATE: This is not to excuse Wallace-Wells' original piece on Kos, which was just bad. I'll have more on this soon.



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media (3.00 / 1)

Brilliant post Matt, thanks.  I'm as cranky as anyone when it comes to Big Media, but destroying them isn't in anyone's best interest.  Supporting them when they do their job well is something that we need to do, or else we're just going to have a terminally adversarial relationship with the media, and that is exactly what the Right wants.

In other news, check out Atrios--   He's got a link to a Barron's editorial that urges the Congress to take a serious look at impeachment.

by global yokel on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 01:24:12 PM EST

Barron's (none / 0)

Sorry Matt, I just noticed that you were way ahead of the game and had already posted the Barron's piece.

Oh well, it's so wonderful we can't possibly talk about it too much....

by global yokel on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 01:46:43 PM EST

Re: Barron's (none / 0)

It's a sobering piece; Barron's is a little crankier than most business rags.
by Matt Stoller on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 01:49:53 PM EST
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huh? (none / 0)

I don't agree.  The reporting for this story required 'access', not hard work or expense.  One or more whistleblowers had to know whom to trust, and how to reach him.  The relationship between inside sources and journalists is embedded in a set of complex social relationships about the truth.  Just because the Times occasionally (and less frequently every day, it seems) finds a way to manipulate those relationships in a way that is socially beneficial is no reason to congratulate or thank them.  The institution is congenitally corrupt.  

What's more, the Times, like most members of the establishment media, is in active opposition to MyDD and any other anti-establishment media.  How could it be otherwise?  They threaten both its wallet and its self-regard.  They will oppose your 'accountability' in every way they can.

I'm as sorry about the greedy house slave mentality of today's media as anyone, but feeling bad about it won't change anything.  Until they show more professional dedication and independence, I'll show them the skepticism they have earned.

by miriamsong on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 01:51:43 PM EST

Re: huh? (3.00 / 1)

I guess I don't see how publishing stories like the wiretapping series is anything but incredible journalism.
by Matt Stoller on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 01:54:46 PM EST
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I think it (none / 0)

reflects incredible Americanism and Patriotism on the parts of the whistleblowers too.
The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 02:00:52 PM EST
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Slightly off to the side (none / 0)

of this topic... I was looking through the children's section of the book store for gifts for my granddaughter. She is 9 and we need an upgrade in our book selection for her age range.

I came across a section of books that caught my interest for a moment as they were on American history... and then noticed the author was Lynne Cheney.

As I wandered around I glanced at the teen section and saw "The O'Reilly Factor for Teens."

Get'm while they're young I guess. I think there are historical examples of other rightwingers trying that in the past.

I was, and am, repulsed and disgusted.

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 01:59:38 PM EST

Re: Slightly off to the side (none / 0)

Actually, Ms. Cheney is not very conservative at all.  I still don't even get how that relationship works.
by Alexander Drummond on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 04:33:25 PM EST
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Ask James Carville (none / 0)


by Geotpf on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 11:16:50 PM EST
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Re: Ask James Carville (none / 0)

It's about power.
by Matt Stoller on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 11:51:06 PM EST
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The damage (none / 0)

was done in that original hack job of a profile by the Washington Monthly. While correcting mistakes they had no choice but to correct is nice, it doesn't make up for the initial fuckup. It merely mitigates it.
by kos on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 02:23:08 PM EST

Re: The damage (none / 0)

I was surprised that he came out and issued a correction so quickly.  I hadn't considered that he was forced to issue a correction.  

Perhaps I should reconsider this post.

I haven't weighed in on the original article because it made me very angry, and I don't blog well when I'm angry.  

by Matt Stoller on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 03:52:25 PM EST
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The article sucks (none / 0)

First, the author of the piece is a total dick, consistently using pejoratives for Kos, gratuitous ones at many points that do not advance any particular story line. Just mean-spirited.

Second, the guy is seriously off on the age issue. Over 12,000 people responded to Kos's poll, median age 44 (half the respondents were over 44, half under: see mathematical analysis here).

Finally, this man seriously doesn't get it, the role of the left blogs as activist pumps and partisan warriors to offset the right wing noise machine (see critiques of Atrios and Digby).
.

by MikeB on Sat Dec 24, 2005 at 10:56:52 PM EST

I still like M$M (none / 0)

While the content and ideology expressed in the liberal blogosphere may  be mainstream, I hope we never get to the point where what is printed and discussed is dependent on what advertisers want printed and discussed. One very big area that could be improved on is labor issues. My favorite innovation at TPM Cafe is The House of Labor.

A perfect example today, Anti-Unionism is the Date Rape of Corporate Crime. This is a story that will never be covered adequately by the NY Times or the LA Times. One of the most effective ways we can push a progressive agenda is by informing and educating Americans about labor and labor issues.

How about ICM? A new site I just ran across is Illiberal Conservative Media: [alternately, Insidious Corporatist Media, U.S.A.].

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Dec 25, 2005 at 05:18:57 AM EST


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