Current Public Opinion Myths, Part One

Even though the narrative of Bush and Republican unpopularity has crept into the mainstream media, there remain three pernicious myths about the existing state of public opinion that are often attached to the larger narrative. Appearing in numerous sources, the three myths are, first, that while Bush's approval-disapproval numbers are low, previous Presidents such as Reagan and Clinton have recovered from similar low. The second myth is that Democrats and Republicans are equally responsible for the existing state of polarization, and no one party is appealing to the center. Finally, the third myth is that while Republicans are unpopular, the country is not moving toward Democrats.

Each of these myths is, well, a myth. They reflect the now commonplace Republican strategy of claiming that "Democrats are guilty too" whenever Republicans are in trouble on any given topic, such as the Iraq war. It is a strategy designed to shift the blame away from Republicans by placing it simultaneously on everyone's head, and it is a strategy to avoid electoral consequences for their actions by blurring the differences between the two parties. As long as these myths are out there, they are all damaging to our cause. I would like to address each of them separately. This post will deal with the recovery myth. 1. The Recovery Myth The basic goal of the recovery myth is to make Bush look like past popular Presidents, such as Clinton and Reagan, during a time of historic unpopularity. By arguing that Bush's current lows in his approval ratings are similar to the lows of past Presidents who later recovered, the Republican Noise Machine allows Bush's unpopularity to not seem all that important, masks the true historic lows he has reached, and provides him with political capital by implying that a turnaround is right around the corner. However, the reality is that Reagan and Clinton never slipped as low as bush has slipped right now, and any President who has slipped this low has never recovered.

This myth is perpetrated primarily by only looking at the "approval" numbers for Bush and for past Presidents. By this metric, Bush's approval is indeed comparable to Reagan's or Clinton's all-time low. According to the Roper Center, which has a nifty webpage featuring all approval polls for past Presidents, Bush's all-time low approval of 35 is in fact similar to Clinton's all-time low of 36, and Reagan's all-time low of 35.

However, the "approval" in Presidential job approval polls is only half of any given poll. In order to make Bush's current predicament look like Reagan's or Clinton's, you have to ignore "disapproval" entirely. Here is a more useful chart of the historic lows reached by all Presidents since the start of public opinion polling:

Worst Net Approval / Disapproval Poll
Prez	 Low Approval	 High Dis      Gap
Bush 2	     37 		   61		 -24
Clinton      36 		   50		 -14
Bush 1	     29 		   60		 -31
Reagan	     35 		   56		 -21
Carter	     28 		   59		 -31
Ford	     39 		   45		  -6
Nixon	     24 		   66		 -42
Johnson      35 		   52		 -17
Kennedy      56 		   30		 +26
Ike	     48 		   36		 +12
Truman	     22 		   65		 -43
FDR	     48 		   43		  +5
From this chart, Bush has reached a disapproval point only surpassed by Nixon and Truman. His low net approval / disapproval has only been passed by Bush 1, Carter, Nixon and Truman.

The reason I point this out is because there is an important connection between Bush's approval rating and those predecessors that hit similar lows: they never recovered. No President has ever recovered from a disapproval rating as high as Bush's currently is, and no President has ever recovered from a net approval / disapproval rating as low as Bush's currently is. Carter and Bush 1 were soundly defeated at the ballot box. Truman decided to not run again. Nixon resigned. There was no recovery. Once they hit these lows, their presidencies were effectively over.

And yet, still, we are faced with the persistent myth of Presidential recovery from Bush-like lows. Someone could point out that Regan hit a similar high disapproval and low net approval / disapproval, but what they would be missing is how briefly Regan stayed at that point. Reagan's period of disapproval above 50% lasted from January 14th, 1983, until January 31st, 1983. By contrast, Bush II has been consistently recorded at greater than 50% disapproval since August 2nd of this year (and actually first hit over 50% back in April). Look at a further comparison between Reagan's worst four months of Presidential approval and Bush's:

Bush's Bad Stretch
	 Mean Approve	 Mean Dis      Gap
Nov 05	    36.8		  57.5	       -20.7
Oct 05	    39.9		  55.1	       -15.2
Sep 05	    42.4		  52.4	       -10.0
Aug 05	    43.0		  52.0	       -9.0

Reagan's Bad Stretch 
	 Mean Approve	 Mean Dis	     Gap
Mar 83	     41 		   49	       -8.0
Feb 83	     40 		   50	       -10.0
Jan 83	    36.3		  54.3	       -18.0
Dec 82	     41 		   50	       -9.0 
There are two key differences here. First, Reagan's numbers were never as bad as Bush's. Second, Bush's numbers are getting worse, while Reagan's numbers basically suffered a brief crater in January of '83 before quickly recovering. Bush's low is lower than Regan, and he has stayed at that low point for a longer period of time.

When asking their new favorite question about how Bush can or will recover, it is important for members of the media to be aware of the historic nature of Bush's unpopularity. No President to reach these lows has ever recovered. It is just as important for Democratic officials and activists around the country to realize this as well. When faced with the persistent pundit question as to how Bush can or will recover, the Democratic response must be simple, accurate, and to the point: Bush can't recover. No President to reach these lows has ever recovered to once again have a functioning presidency. All of his political capital has been spent. By all historical comparisons, Bush's Presidency is over.



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Further (none / 0)

I don't know how those polls for previous Presidents broke out by issue, but what's notable about Bush is that his mid-30s approval extends to virtually every single issue. Economy, Iraq, Social Security, everything. His entire agenda/persona/political being has collapsed in the eyes of the American people.

To put it another way, to about 65% of Americans, George Bush doesn't do anything right. He's completely worthless to them. There's no poll data to suggest that by changing the terms of the debate, Bush can move to more fertile ground. Wherever the political debate turns, Mr. 35% will still be there.

He's done. Cooked. Beaten like a bad piece of meat. He's ready for chili, now.

by BriVT on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 01:21:00 PM EST

It is time to become the party of Hell No! (3.00 / 1)

Bloggers have been pushing Ryan's strategy of becoming an opposition party since January. The only reason Bush has had any success this session is because he repeatedly got help from Democrats on bankrutpcy, class action law suit restrictions, CAFTA and every other piece of legislation that Congress has passed.

From this point forward any Democrat who jumps ship to help the Republican Party pass their tax cuts or budget cuts or any other part of their corrupt agenda should have their commttee seats pulled. It's time for Harry Reid and the Democratic leadership to start cracking the whip on Dems who put their personal agenda ahead of the interests of the party.

by Gary Boatwright on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 01:43:30 PM EST

Gary (none / 0)

Normally I don't agree with a lot you have to say, but I wholeheartedly agree with you here.  Any Democrat who jumps ship now is a plain turncoat, through and through.  
by Eric11 on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 03:47:11 PM EST
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Re: Gary (none / 0)

I agree as well.
by bruh21 on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 04:02:21 PM EST
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Re: Gary (none / 0)

They should also face tough mad as hell challenges from the grassroots.  Let's not just leave it up to the leadership to take care the problem.  A real, progressive populist, grass roots challengers in the primaries would be a warning shot across the bow of many congresscritters political careers.
by glendenb on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 05:02:45 PM EST
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Bush v. Reagan: nobody likes Bush (none / 0)

This was a cliche during the 2004 election.  Bush's approval trends inexorably downward, at a roughly constant rate, until it spikes in a crisis -- 9/11, beginning of Iraq war, capture of Saddam.  The only other upticks are just before the 2002 and 2004 elections, when the Mighty Wurlitzer was pouring millions into the effort.

http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/pollkatzmainGRAPHICS_8911_image001.gif

http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/NEWBUSHINDEX_6098_image001.gif

Besides, Reagan was genuinely likable.  Nobody likes Bush. Judging by their behavior until they were locked in a closet, his kids hold him in contempt.  You never hear stories like,"Bush spent the day with his old buddy Cory Ruption."  There haven't even been any bimbos on Oprah, promoting f***-and-tell books from his bachelor days.  He never dares speak to a crowd that isn't hand-picked and ready to do what they're told. He watches the Super Bowl alone, with no one to rescue him when he chokes on a pretzel.  

The last president to be so totally alone was Nixon.  And even Nixon had his daughters' respect.

by drlimerick on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 01:44:31 PM EST

Accuracy with Numbers (none / 0)

I'm as anti-Bush as the next liberal Democrat, but let's make sure we're comparing apples to apples here before we launch into analysis.  The numbers provided by the Roper Center for all presidents except Clinton and GWB were Gallup only.  GWB's max and min Gallup numbers are actually only 58 disapprove and 39 approve.  That's a gap of -19, not -24.  (Gallup tends to have more Bush-favorable results than many of the other polls out there.)  The way I see it, Bush's numbers are still floating in the middle ground between Reagan's and Nixon's.
by guinness on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 01:54:26 PM EST

Gallup Avg ~ Avg Of All Polls For Clinton (none / 0)

I just did the numbers for Clinton (I downloaded them on Saturday) and found that Gallup's averge is virtually identical to the total average.  Actually, it IS identical, since we're using data that has no decimals.  But even allowing for the spurious extra digit we get:

______     Appr    Dis
All Polls     56.6    36.5
Gallup       56.8    36.8

Thus, Gallup may seem out of whack from time to time, but over the long haul it's indistinguishable.

by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 02:44:17 PM EST
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Re: Gallup Avg ~ Avg Of All Polls For Clinton (none / 0)

Sure, I didn't mean to express a complaint about Gallup or question their long-term accuracy.  My point is that the range of measurements taken from a single polling organization is guaranteed to be equal to or (more likely) smaller than the range of measurements taken by multiple polling organizations.  It is flawed reasoning to compare GWB's min and max numbers across many polls to Reagan or Johnson's min and max from Gallup alone.  Comparing Gallup polls only to other Gallup polls makes a difference of five percentage points here.  GWB's recalculated gap of -19 (instead of -24) is closer to Clinton's -14 than Carter's -31.
by guinness on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 03:25:29 PM EST
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Re: Gallup Avg ~ Avg Of All Polls For Clinton (none / 0)

New Gallup

Approve 37
Disapprove 60

So, chin up! We can now add Gallup to the mix at -23.

btw, I thought your original point was valid. But now the incredible collapse of Bush's numbers changed the data there, too ...

by BriVT on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 09:01:51 PM EST
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Also important to note... (none / 0)

hinted in reference to Reagan's low being brief spikes but not expounded on...

Is that Bush's troubles are far from over. This particular myth is doomed to failure because he won't recover. Fitzgerald is still investigating. Frist is still being investigated. Delay is still under indictment. Other Republican congresman are being implicated. Rove and other administration figures are still implicated and may well be indicted soon. The CIA-Soviet Gulag is just breaking. Gas prices remain high. The south, Louisiana and Mississippi in particular, will continue to suffer the effects of a Republican/Bush run FEMA that isn't there for them when they need them. Congress is falling apart. Bush has no second term agenda.

And the Iraq War has no end in sight.

There will be no recovery. This is a stop-gap attempt on their part. A stalling effort. It is pure and utter bullshit but it won't stand for long.

Bush cannot and will not recover. Neither will the Republican Party.

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 01:54:44 PM EST

Reagan's Recovery Was A Reversal (none / 0)

It's also worth noting that Reagan recovered by reversing direction. He dropped his hardline anti-Communism, which was the root of the Iran-Contra scandal, and entered into enthusiastic detente with Gorbachev--precisely what he ran against in Jimmy Carter.

I'm reasonably certain that Bush could recover remarkably if he were to realize, and act upon the reality that terrorism is a technique employed to goad us into self-defeating heavy-handed military responses, which can easily be defeated by a genuine reliance on the best of our values--as shown, for example, by the segment on 60 Minutes last night.  

If Bush were to repeal his tax cuts, fire Rove, and devote $200 billion to expanding Peace Corps operations throughout the Muslim world, I daresay he could recover a good deal of his lost popularity.

But we all know that he will never do that.

by Paul Rosenberg on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 02:51:58 PM EST

Also, the fact is (none / 0)

the things causing Bush's numbers to be lower- Iraq, the economy, his stance on social issues, etc aren't going to go away. Moreover, the biggest deficit he has is that he is stubborn. He won't change as the Presidents that did recover had to do in order to recover. He will approach the situation the same way with the same team.
by bruh21 on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 04:00:27 PM EST

Why are we so obsessed with Bush? (1.00 / 0)

He'll be gone in 3 years, while the Republican Party and the ideology of conservatism stays.
The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 04:09:51 PM EST

Exactly, Bush should be virtually irrelevant (none / 0)

to our mindset and strategy.

It's pathetic how lousy our handicapping and foresight are. Bush becomes basically non-existent as soon as primary season 2008. If we think we can run against him for all eternity we'll get spanked and earn it. We never even won opposing him until this year and those races were minimal in number, no matter how much we want to pretend otherwise.

I work in a statistical office. If I tried to present my bosses with definitive conclusions based on a sample size of maybe 10 then I would be looking for a different job within hours. I thought that was understood by now, that political estimations are flimsy due to so few completely relevant examples. Last year the conventional wisdom was an incumbent was toast with an approval rating below 50%. I kept insisting the approval rating criteria was imperfect given the obscenely low sample size including no one who basically hovered slightly below 50% for months.

It's one thing to rely on numbers like the statewide partisan index that doesn't fluctuate wildly and can be logically predicted given demographic influence. Here you're trying to predict OPINIONS, ones which can swing dramatically based on one event or quick series of events. Good luck with that.

In sports you don't play at the extremes for very long. Secretariat only won one race among 20+ career starts by more than 10 lengths yet the public considers the Belmont representative. The Augusta course suits Tiger's game perfectly yet he's only won one time by big margin. Joe Montana had one awful playoff game in which he was yanked for Steve Young. This is what I'm getting at: Bush won't play at these approval numbers for an extended period of time any more than he remained in the 80-90% stratosphere of post 9/11.      

by jagakid on Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 06:51:51 PM EST
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sully reads mydd/chris (none / 0)

i read you both and I am happy to see the attribution.
by aiko on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 09:27:15 AM EST


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