New Democratic Slogan

Well, not that new:
House Democratic leaders are holding a closed-door meeting with members of their caucus this afternoon to discuss a new slogan for the 2006 midterm elections: "Together, We Can Do Better" or "Together, America Can Do Better," according to Democratic sources.

Although aides say the slogan has yet to be finalized and is still up for debate, it has already been in frequent use by Democratic leaders on both sides of the Capitol for several weeks.(...)

The catchphrase is not new to political observers, who will remember that an earlier reincarnation, "America Can Do Better," was a slogan in the campaign of presidential aspirant Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), although his main theme was "A Stronger America."(...)

Academic George Lakoff, marketing expert Jack Trout and software entrepreneur John Cullinane have periodically weighed in on the project.

I suppose it is impossible to ever be excited about a quick catch phrase. This is especially true in politics, where pretty much every catch phrase long ago reached the lowest level of cliche hell. If nothing else, it is a variation on the Republicans love it phrase that I have long supported on this blog. Maybe these two statements could even work together on a commerical.

Anyway, now that the message is close to final, take the poll in the extended entry.

Update: It would appear that Basie and I think alike. His diary has more on the new slogan.


Poll
Which phrase is best?
Together, We Can Do Better
America Can Do Better
I like pie

Votes: 1239
Results : Vote Link : Polls

Display:


Does anyone know "active" verbs? (none / 0)

Why settle for "can" when you have a more active word in "will"?

Reservation is for the weak, and "can" is a very reserved word.

Americans want strength, stability, and the knowledge that tomorrow will be today only shinier.

"Together, America WILL do better."

It's a promise.  It projects strength.

Christ.  Can't the Dem leadership cut the bullshit and the hemming and hawwing long enough to use a direct, active word in a sentence?

by jcjcjc on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 10:27:48 PM EST

rose petals and tinkling piano (3.00 / 2)

I hate to be a second-guesser, but this slogan blows.  "Do better"?  I could have donme better cleaning my stove the other day.  How about something that tells voters who fucked up?  How about dusting off the old chestnut, "Had Enough"?
by tuffie on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 10:30:05 PM EST

Re: rose petals and tinkling piano (none / 0)

"Shock and awe" can draw negative feelings too. Dean's "We want our country back" worked with us, but with the MSM butting in, it turned off regular folks.

Of the ones floated, I think that the variation "we will do better" (instead of the passive "can") is the catchiest.

Please see my diary with some ideas, and a poll. LINK.

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by NeoLiberal on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 09:47:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]

It makes the point that the GOP WANTS to DIVIDE US (none / 0)

which is very important..

The GOP wants to DIVIDE and CONQUER US.

Thats what totalitarian nations do, they eliminate all support networks they can't control. Even things like churches, gardening associations and publically owned shopping districts.. Even SIDEWALKS, dammit..

Even small radio stations.. Even BLOGS.. Even SCIENCE..

Democrats find strength in celebrating change and diversity.. Republicans celebrate repression and hierarchy.. To accomplish this they use LIES, as well as every possible kind of coercion, and things like patriarchical, abusive bullying..

They want to nail us into the past.. a past of scarcity, in which they controlled everything.. An 'ownership society' in which they own everything.. not a society that shares..

by ultraworld on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 12:34:54 PM EST
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Actually, the slogan is VERY good.. (none / 0)

Because it EXPOSES THE WHOLE REPUBLICAN PLAN..

Their plan to make everyone in the world slaves of their corporate paymasters..

The GOP doesnt care about Americans.. (they think national governments are quaint, outmoded concepts.. just look how they keep their money offshore in numbered accounts..)

They are fascists.. intent on returning us to a sort of international feudal system in which ordinary people are captives of ever harsh regulation and national ID requirements, but at the same time, the rights to us are bought and sold.. But THEY have 'free trade' to undercut us at every turn..

by ultraworld on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 12:41:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: rose petals and tinkling piano (none / 0)

What happened to the diary?  The page says this story was deleted.
http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Fri Oct 28, 2005 at 12:45:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: rose petals and tinkling piano (none / 0)

I realized that I messed up the poll with multiple entries of the same slogan. So I deleted the diary in order to post the right poll next time.

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by NeoLiberal on Sat Oct 29, 2005 at 09:53:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]

My Expanded list and Poll results (none / 0)

Please see my diaries:
where I posted a longer list of slogans, and many interesting suggestions came up.

Here is the poll I did:


Which Democratic Party slogan would you recommend?

Selection        
Votes
Together, We Can Do Better                       9%    11
America Can Do Better                           11%    13
Common Sense, Common Good, Common Future         15%    19
Progress, Prosperity, Future, Destiny            1%    1
Fighting for America's Future                   15%    19
Fighting for American Prosperity             1%    1
The American Promise                            12%    15
For a Better and Brighter Future                 4%    5
Common Sense, Common Good, Common Destiny     11%    13
I like pie                                    21%    26

123 votes total

Since both the "Common Sense.." ones are nearly identical, by adding their tallies up, we get: 26%, 32 votes. Therefore, the winning slogan from this list is:


Winner: Common Sense, Common Good, Common Future (or Destiny)

Honorable mentions:

  1. Fighting for America's Future
  2. The American Promise
  3. America Can Do Better

But there are some excellent suggestions that were not part of this poll, byt perhaps I will post a second round including some of thoe along the 4 or 5 top rated ones from above.

Thanks for your contributions.

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by NeoLiberal on Mon Oct 31, 2005 at 01:30:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: rose petals and tinkling piano (none / 0)

Dude, since your asked, just wanted to mention this comment below.

Please post any feedback.

thanks.

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by NeoLiberal on Mon Oct 31, 2005 at 01:32:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: rose petals and tinkling piano (none / 0)

JFK did pretty well with "we can do better".
by hawkseye on Thu Oct 27, 2005 at 12:14:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: rose petals and tinkling piano (none / 0)

But he won with.:

Ask not what your country can do for you,
but instead what you can do for your country.

by turnerbroadcasting on Thu Oct 27, 2005 at 01:33:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: rose petals and tinkling piano (none / 0)

That was his inaguration address, not a stump speech.
http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Fri Oct 28, 2005 at 12:47:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]

and ... (2.00 / 1)

Screw "together," while we're at it.  Go 50 states, yes ... but I'm not pandering one inch to the religioso goobers who trundled into their church vans last November and put this scum with legs back in office.  "Want Decent Healthcare? Vote Democratic."  "Had Enough? Crush the GOP Crooks."  "No More War Dead -- No More GOP."
by tuffie on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 10:33:50 PM EST

KDP Motto (none / 0)

Democrats Do It Better

This one has been around for a while.

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 10:43:13 PM EST

not evocative at all (3.00 / 3)

hate it.

we need a real message- not this canned stuff.

Lakoff's idea- or just the product of too many cooks?

by Archibald on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 10:51:37 PM EST

Re: not evocative at all (none / 0)

A slogan isn't a message. A slogan is an overarching theme in which the message fits. It a way of boiling down what your about to 7-10 words.
by upstatenydem on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 09:31:07 AM EST
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Re: not evocative at all (2.50 / 2)

Thanks for the primer on what a slogan is.  I was just confused.  I thought that it was supposed to carry some meaning to it.  Now I know, it's supposed to just be useless and without any message.

If that's the case, then I love this slogan for conveying nothing at all.

Seriously. You don't expect our party to ome up with something stronger than "togethr, we can do better" after 5 years of the most irresponsible government we will (hopefully!) ever see in our lifetimes?  Good grief.

Think about Reagan's "it's morning in America."  It's morning here on the west coast right now.  The day is full of opportunity, and everything looks better after a night's sleep.  That's a slogan (4 words in fact) and it does convey a message.  It evokes a sense of opportunity.

Together we can do better sounds like a comforting mantra for addiction recovery.

My opinion is that we need something that carries meaning to the belly- where people have those gut instincts about their world and where it is going.  This reads from the head.  It's off.

by Archibald on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 11:31:27 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: not evocative at all (none / 0)

It does carry some meaning, and importantly it cuts against two big Republican weaknesses right now. First, together cuts against the sense that they have caused the country to be divided. And second, we can do better cuts against the Republicans failing in almost everything. It is a simple and powerful slogan.
by upstatenydem on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 01:43:38 PM EST
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Re: not evocative at all (none / 0)

---"It is a simple and powerful slogan."

Which failed miserably in last year's presidential election.

Nice.

by Archibald on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 01:48:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

my reaction (3.00 / 1)

"Together" and "we" convey the message that Dems are on America's side.

It can convey that America hasn't done better under the Republicans. It also allows Democrats to flesh the message out by reminding people that the 1990s rocked, when the Big Dog was pres, and many Democratic criticisms of the GOP and Dubya fall in nicely under that slogan (e.g. corruption, federal deficit, etc.) The proposed slogans look forward without forgetting where we have been and where we are now.

It's short, simple, and sounds like a really good tag line at the end of an ad. It's something that every Dem candidate can put in ther campaign lit. It'll unify the Dems in a very broad way, but with the Dems, this might actually be an improvement, lol.

When voters hear "we can do better," they'll think, "well, okay. IA that we can do better, but how?" That's where the Dem platform comes in.

"Together" also allows down the ticket candidates to use that slogan, too. I can see this being used down the ticket to the office of dog catcher. We'll get lots of repetition, which is crucial in an environment with such diversified media.

The slogan also works, because the vast majority thinks that America is going in the wrong direction. It taps into what Americans are feeling about the GOP-controlled government.

Now, I'm not saying that this is the best slogan that the Dems could come up with, but there are many reasons to be for it. Don't just look at the slogan at face value. Think about what concepts it communicates and how it taps into the American psyche.

by Newsie8200 on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 10:52:49 PM EST

Re: my reaction (none / 0)

Agreed.  I love it.  I can see why the experts do too.

  1.  It is positive and projects hope, but it also taps people's very real dissatisfaction with where the country is right now.  This is so incredibly important.  Many of the alternatives people are suggesting are basically negative phrases about republicans.  That won't do.  It has to be about us, and how we can change the direction of this country into something that people can be happy about again.

  2.  Including the word "together" at the beginning adds a lot in my opinion.  It conveys a sense of community, which is absolutely crucial for dems in 06.  Vilsack, Warner, and others speak very eloquently about the need to rebuild a sense of Community in America--A sense that we're all in this together (a central tenet of everything our party stands for).

  3.  It also speaks to national unity.  This is a smart strategy.  The current era of polarization won't last forever.  Eventually, the right leaders will unite this country again, like has happened many times in this past.  This slogan says that we democrats are the people who will do that.  I think that in a lot of ways, people are sick of the polarization.

A slogan is just that, a slogan.  This is a pretty good one.  I can already envision some pretty stirring speeches...

"We can do better for our troops.

We can do better for our children, so that they will not only compete but thrive in the changing global economy.

Our best days are still yet to come. Etc. Etc."

I'm hardly a speechwriter, but in times like this people don't just want to be told that things aren't going well right now for America -- They already know that.  They want hope.

by rapid response on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 12:54:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: my reaction (none / 0)

.. We can do better for a slogan.
by turnerbroadcasting on Thu Oct 27, 2005 at 01:34:09 PM EST
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I agree with the criticisms so far (3.00 / 1)

Wimpy words like can and better and together should be among the first ones excluded.

I have no idea why we need a slogan this early. The dynamics of fall 2006 are still unclear. Criticizing the GOP will never get us anywhere. I hoped we learned that last fall. The opinions of this president and administration are locked in and no one is thrilled. But until we present a definitive alternative our election results will never match the unease with Bush, or the generic Democratic/Republican congressional percentages.

The consistently overwhelming and significant number is the right track/wrong track percentage. I would have thought an early slogan would try to focus and capitalize on that, using the specific terms.

by jagakid on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 10:54:36 PM EST

We should be better than "better" (3.00 / 1)

"Better" solely focuses on how Democrats are IN RELATION TO REPUBLICANS, rather than addressing Democrats' merits on their own. It claims to nothing more than "least worst" status and supports that frequent assertion that the Dems are just hoping to benefit from the GOP's miseries without taking strong stands themselves. We need a more affirmative and optimistic slogan. Something about being for the people, or using all of our resources to meet modern challenges. People can figure out that we think we'd do "better."
by MarylandD on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 11:39:09 PM EST

Re: We should be better than "better" (none / 0)

That's why I was always partial to

"A better life for all"

by adamterando on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 11:00:38 AM EST
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yuck (none / 0)

a comma --- in a slogan?? "together [pause] ..." and the audience is gone, thinking about something else.

i just posted something similar, here. but here's what i'm thinking. yea, comparing us to republicans is dumb. it's the whole republican-lite thing again. we should show that we don't NEED republicans anymore to run this country, because we do it so freakin well.

a better slogan would IMPLY how republicans love their power and politics, while democrats want solutions. efficient government. smart government. it would stress our independence from politics -- and its corruption -- by emphasizing how dems want answers, statistics, information, etc to find the best solutions out there. republicans, on the other hand, want power and all its trappings.

something like "a brighter future??" could stress a "better" future and a smarter gov. the best and the brightest, rather than the worst and the wealthiest.

i dunno ... something like that at least???

by jessev on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 11:52:30 PM EST

Our Democratic Party Leaders Can Do Better (none / 0)

How does the new slogan stack up against GOP strategist Frank Luntz's "Republican Playbook 2006"?

http://www.politicalstrategy.org/archives/001185.php#1185

http://realitique.blogspot.com/2005/03/luntzing-toward-bethlehem.html

by INTP on Mon Oct 24, 2005 at 11:53:29 PM EST

Does anyone remember Avis Rent-A-Car (3.00 / 1)

Their slogan was "We Try Harder"
They were number 2 behind Hertz and were implying they would treat you better because they wanted to become number 1.

I hate the two proposed slogans. Together, we can do better sounds like we weren't doing so well before but we'll do better next time.

America can do better sounds like when you don't like your daughter's boyfriend and you tell her that she can do better. Thus the slogan implies that America can do better than the Dems.

by mpower1952 on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 12:18:53 AM EST

Pathetic and Passive ...why reinvent the wheel... (none / 0)

1992's slogan seemed to work.....
"Put People First...for a Change!"

or something like that....

The sense of relief after 12 years of Reagan/Bush would have to be as great now...and the message about putting people first has to ring as true, IMHO.

http://www.zianet.com/insightanalytical/ClintonPuttingPeopleFirst92.jpg

by Gloria on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 12:23:44 AM EST

another frame that democrats need to pick up (none / 0)

Dean has been saying this since he became DNC chairman and Democrats of all stripes need to pick it up

"Republicans can't govern"

it is a perfect frame for EVERYTHING-
from Failures of economy , iraq to Karina and Plame affair.

it flies in the face of the Republican frame that
"Democrats have no ideas"

the subtext is that we have been listening to Repubican 'ideas" for the last few years and ideas are not worth the paper they are written on if you aren't capable of governing . of actually making the government work or making sure that we don't get into a war because of lies.. that we can actually make government protect and serve people.

by smartone on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 12:31:56 AM EST

bad slogan (none / 0)

proposals:

"Putting people first"

"The Democratic Party - the party of the people"

The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 04:32:52 AM EST

The Democratic Party: Cleaning Up Republican (none / 0)

Messes Since 1933
by merbex on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 08:20:27 AM EST

beh... (none / 0)

We'll see how this goes.  I'm sure it's been tested, so it will  probably work.  

But, I prefer slogans that draw on two metaphors: [unity] as [standing together] and [time] as [money].  Something like

America can't afford to waste any more time.
For our children.
For our future:
It's time to Stand Together Again
 (Long version with sloga at the end.)
by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 09:30:12 AM EST

Come on DNC idiots (3.00 / 2)

For god's sake think outside your gated mind!!!
To regurgitate such a slogan and think all will be good? How about American Responsibility or The New Moral Path? I do not pretend to have "the know", but to repackage, come on folks.

by Citizen80203 on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 11:09:04 AM EST

We could do worse (none / 0)

And frequently have when it comes to slogans.  This is better Building a Bridge to the 21st century.

It is somewhat reminiscent of Labor's message during Blair's first campaign.

by fladem on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 11:33:50 AM EST

Since I have criticized- here's a suggestion (none / 0)

"Let's get back on track."
"Let's bring democracy back to Washington"
by Archibald on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 11:38:53 AM EST

Actions speak louder than words.... (none / 0)

Democrats seem to be surrounded by silence. But here are a few suggestions that feel better as they escape one's mouth.

Making government work for all Americans

The Democratic Party: Making work work for working Americans

(not inclusive enough, but still catchy)

by mperloe on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 04:27:56 PM EST

The slogan sucks (none / 0)

For all the reasons posted above.

My humble suggestions:

Republicans can't govern. Together, we can get back on the right track.

This brings uo the point that over two thirds of this country thinks we are on the wrong track, and that we are in this together while mixing in all the cronyism, incompetence and lying that are going on.

by mjshep on Tue Oct 25, 2005 at 04:34:01 PM EST

Can? (3.00 / 1)

How about WILL do better. Trying is not good enough!

I really don't like either one but if they replaced can with will, it is at least tolerable

by sndeak on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 09:35:21 AM EST

Good lord! (none / 0)

What would have been the slogan of the passengers on the Titanic? "Together, We Can Do Better"?

What part of our world is being hijacked by a cabal of lunatic end-timers don't these Democrats understand?

Together, we can do better.

Better than what? We who? Together - does that mean you talk I shut up? Does that mean you lead I follow?

I am going 100% GREEN if this is the best the "opposition party" can come up with.

Sheesh!

by catjo on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 10:31:32 AM EST

Re: Good lord! (none / 0)

I suggested on basie diary that they could make it even more passive, like, "together we can lie back and enjoy it even better" or some such.

Whaddya think, will that stir up the masses?

How about this one, "Together we can drive a stake clean through the empty heart cavity of dick cheney and reclaim our Constitution from these fascists!"

by DuckmanGR on Thu Oct 27, 2005 at 01:15:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]

How about "What the Hell Was That?" (3.00 / 0)

"What the Hell Was That?" would be a great slogan.  It focuses blame on those who deserve it.  It can be used for many situations.  It puts the Republicans in the past.

Can't you just see Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid saying things like:

"Iraq.  What the hell was that?"

"The Bush economy.  What the hell was that?"

"Misuse of intelligence to lead us into a quagmire?  What the hell was that?"

It sort of like an updated "Where's the Beef?"  Not only can we criticize their record with the phrase, but we can say it every time they issue an attack ad or may some bogus claim on TV or on the stump.  The only response necessary would be "What the Hell Was That?"

Think about it.

by danielj on Thu Oct 27, 2005 at 12:53:21 PM EST

I've always liked (none / 0)

"Democrats: Restoring Honor and Integrity to Washington"
Walberg Watch - Following Radical Conservative Rep. Tim Walberg in MI-07
by Fitzy on Thu Oct 27, 2005 at 07:02:50 PM EST

How About... (2.50 / 2)

Flush Bush
Flush the GOP
All politicians must be drawn & quartered
Spineless Demublican Whores
Complicit Republican Lite
GOP.  Got Turd?
Fight the power

by Zen Warrior on Thu Oct 27, 2005 at 08:32:20 PM EST

broke the tie (none / 0)

ok i tipped it in favor of America can do better.

I'd like to see progressives own as much patriotims as possible.  The tech side of bloggers can be a put off.  For example during the Kerry Campaign the Kerry Blog kept saying bloggers, bloggers, bloggers, instead of Americans, citizens, fellow countrymen, etc.

So half of America thought that Kerry's Campaign was only speaking to bloggers and instantly walked away.

DAGGER
by goplies on Fri Oct 28, 2005 at 01:57:18 AM EST

Together we can do better (none / 0)

'Together we can do better' is a great slogan. FINALLY, a positive spin on what the Democrats have to offer:

*improving what's been going on
*working together as a community is what makes improvements possible
*defining the community as everyone in the U.S. (not just the rich folks and 'insiders')
*takes everyone's needs into consideration
*would apply in every arena -- health care, foreign policy, education, military policy, FEMA

by MS on Fri Oct 28, 2005 at 02:52:07 PM EST

/me no likey (none / 0)

the best suggestion i've seen on this thread is: had enough? (& i don't know if that was intended as a suggestion). i'm sure you can see how applicable it is to everything, how short it is, & how, frankly, it gets to the point.

had enough?

i know i have. s.
by synth on Sat Oct 29, 2005 at 12:54:23 AM EST

My offering (none / 0)

I like soup and I like you.  For who among us does not like soup?  And who among us does not like you?  
the lyceum
by mattgabe on Sun Oct 30, 2005 at 12:02:46 PM EST

I don't really like pie (none / 0)

... but I like it better than the other two choices. Talk about cliche as hell. My idea for a slogan? It's radical. But thanks to the TaliBorn Again and the Republican "ownership society", they've brought these radical times on us with their undying support of sanctimonious "Religion LLC" (Dobson, Falwell, etc.) and multinational corporations (Viacom, News Corp, Halliburton, etc.). Therefore my slogan isn't really a slogan at all -- it's simply the barebones truth:

BREAK THE MONOTONY - BUST THE CORPORATOCRACY!

  • Say "NO" to tax-breaks to corporations. Period. If corporations say they'll provide American jobs as long as we'll provide the tax breaks and other government handouts, tell them payment will not happen unless the services have been rendered. No exceptions. It's provide FIRST and maybe we'll consider a tax-break or hand out. Without exploiting the freedom of America, these corporations would be nothing. But the inverse cost of freedom is responsibility and if they don't want the responsibility and just use America and her people for exploitation in exchange for exhorbant windfall profits then why grease our squeaky wheels when we can replace them? If American labor is too expensive for them, they are too expensive for America to keep around.

  • Say "NO" to the corporate media by correcting two of the biggest mistakes we've seen in over 20 years (1) the repealing of "The Fairness Doctrine" and the passing of the Deregulation Act of 1996. The results of these have allowed the CEOs of Viacom, NBC/General Electric, Disney, Turner/Time Warner, News Corp, and Clear Channel to dictate all aspects of our information. If doing so means they have to sell stations and fire some lobbiests ....... Good!

  • Say "NO" to religious organizations that violate their tax-free status by getting too involved in politics. Our forefathers didn't mind religion influencing government but they drew a thick line in the sand at religion permeating government. It's why our forefathers voted with their feet and founded America in the first place.

Heh, yeah. I ran these ideas by a friend of mine and he said, "I've got a new nickname for you: 'Black Market'". I asked him why call me that and he said, "Because you'd create a lot of 'em if your survived assassination and got elected!" :-)
by Sizemore on Tue Nov 01, 2005 at 12:43:51 AM EST

Pie, yum! (none / 0)

"I like Boston Cream Pie" would bring in the Volvo driving, sushi eating, Birkenstock demographic.

We wouldn't want to impose an ideological hegemony on Southern voters, so they should be allowed to use "I like Pecan Pie."

In the Midwest "I like Cherry Cobbler." would lock in Iowa, Minnesota and Illinois.

We could get the Italian vote with "I like pizza pie."

We could shore up California with "I like quiche."

How about "I like mud pies." for Generation X?

by Gary Boatwright on Tue Nov 01, 2005 at 10:10:13 AM EST

Doesn't matter (none / 0)

There's only one type of pie I'm interested in -- Cow Pies! If the Democrats can manage to shovel a bushell or two of 'em right into gullet of the Republicans, I'll be a happy camper. I'm a firm believer in "You Reap What You Sow". Rethugs sowwed shit? Let 'em eat shit (and without the Cool-Whip, too!)
by Sizemore on Wed Nov 02, 2005 at 01:33:53 AM EST


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