More On Roemer

Thank you to This Week with George Stephanopoulos for mentioning MyDD on its program today. I would also like to clarify that when I wrote about "third party groups" in this article, I was referring to allied organizations including labor, environmental, civil rights, 527's and C4's such as MoveOn, Blog Pac, America Votes and the Sierra Club, not to third political parties such as the Greens and the Libertarians.

I also want to make clear that I find Roemer's association with the Mercatus Institute at least, if not more, disturbing than what I perceive to be his positions on Social Security, reproductive rights, and his mind boggling votes against Clinton's 1993 economic plan but in favor of Bush's 2001 economic plan. I believe that the number one problem facing Democrats is how The Republican Noise Machine is able to dominate the national discourse on behalf of radical conservatism. Not only do Democrats need to create a counter infrastructure to help take back the national discourse, we certainly do not need to be actively participating in the Republican Noise Machine itself. We have absolutely no chance of future victory if we are working to spread the influence of the Republican Noise Machine over our members of Congress, but through his work with the Mercatus Institute, that is exactly what Roemer is doing. Considering the level of importance to the party of the DNC chair, I can imagine no public repudiation of this actively that would make Roemer an acceptable choice. As kos wrote:

This isn't an ideological issue between "conservative" Democrats and "liberal" Democrats. This is about a candidate for the DNC chairmanship, on the board of a Scaife-funded right wing think thank, urging Democrats to attend a "retreat" hosted by said right wing think tank.
We cannot reform our own party through the use of Republican institutions, period. I have included a transcript of Roemer's interview with Stephanopoulos in the extended entry.

Update I'm glad that Roemer is opposed to Bush and the Republicans when it comes to Social Security. We need every Democrat on board for this one.

9/11 COMMISSION MEMBER & FORMER CONGRESSMAN TIM ROEMER ON ABC NEWS "THIS WEEK WITH GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS" SUNDAY, JANUARY 9, 2005

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ROEMER: We must embrace people of faith in this party. We must talk about the values of the rural communities and not give up on any voter in any neighborhood on any doorstep.

(END VIDEO CLIP)(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

STEPHANOPOULOS: The Democratic Party has set out on another round of soul-searching since election day, trying to figure out what went wrong and what they need to do to win again. And the focus of that debate right now is the race to pick a new party chairman. Several of the likely candidates spoke in Atlanta yesterday, including Howard Dean.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOWARD DEAN (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's important for us to talk about our faith. It's also important for us not to change our faith.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STEPHANOPOULOS: Another man who's been looking closely at the race is former congressman and 9/11 commissioner Tim Roemer, and he joins us now.

And I know you've been looking at this race for a few weeks now. Are you ready to get in?

ROEMER: I am, George. I'm running to win, so that our Democratic Party can win. You look at the past election. The Democratic Party lost 97 of the 100 fastest-growing counties in the United States. We have four senators, Democrat senators, left in the Deep South. We lost ground with Hispanic voters, churchgoing African-American voters. Catholic voters were a turnaround from 2 percent for Vice President Gore to a net loss of 4 percent in this past election, with a practicing Catholic at the head of our ticket. We need a debate, a conversation, not just for the heart and soul of our party, but for the brains of our party...

STEPHANOPOULOS: But let me...

ROEMER: ... so we think about issues differently, George.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let's have that conversation. What went wrong?

ROEMER: I think a lot of things went wrong. First of all, we're getting -- while we worked hard, we did a lot right in modernizing parties and updating technology and voter lists, we didn't have some of the people that are in your neighborhood talking to you, especially in some of these fast-growing subdivisions in the suburbs. Instead of going to the churches and talking to people, instead of going to the baseball games, where I spent half my life on weekends, Democratic Parties evacuated those areas. As Churchill said, you don't win wars by evacuation. You can test the Republicans for votes everywhere in this country. I didn't go to Atlanta, George, to try to oppose a candidate that's running, but propose new ideas. I didn't go to divide my party on controversial issues, I went to try to unite it with a new conversation for this great Democratic Party.

And I'm not going to try to let people steer this party left, nor would I steer it right. It needs to be bigger, George. We need more Democrats on the bus, more connection to the values of the American people that our party hold dears. And we need to express those values better.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But how do you get that? You talked about a lot of process changes. You said you need to change to get out the vote effort, make it more personal. But does the party also need to have a different ideological orientation?

ROEMER: I think we need to have a bigger bus. We need to not change the principles we stand for. But if my faith is important to me, and it is, I wouldn't be in politics without my faith. I had a great-aunt that was a Catholic nun that used to say, You're going to grow up to be a priest, but if you don't, get into politics so you can help people, especially the poor. It's important for Democrats that feel their faith to be able to talk about it.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But John Kerry talked about it...

ROEMER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) during the campaign. When you go into most of America, George, and you talk to most of America, a lot of people do not feel that we are a party of being able to express our faith to communicate values of faith. Not just on issues such as abortion, but on issues such as our concern for the poor. One of the most important things for me as a Democrat is, how do we reach out more effectively to help the least of our brethren? That's what Jesus said to us. What do we do on welfare reform? I worked very closely with the Clinton administration on welfare reform to try to reward work and get part -- people off of welfare. A lot of people now are working hard in this country, one in two jobs. But they're still in poverty. Why can't we reward work now and pay people a decent wage? That is a value.

A value of national security. The war on terrorism, the war in Iraq, the war in -- now to try to rebuild parts of Indonesia and do it, as the 9/11 commission might have said, with education and economic aid, economic trade, those are things we have to look at for our national security, not just going out, as the Bush administration does, and think it's all about the military part. It is, we've got to find terrorists and kill them, but we also have to look at the other myriad powers within the United States and public diplomacy and helping people around the world and competing with the (inaudible) and education.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You've said the party...

ROEMER: We need national security in tougher, smarter, more effective terms, like Truman and Kennedy talked about.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Excuse me. You said that the party has to expand the bus, but you also have to energize that base, the liberal, progressive base of the party. And a lot of that base is going to be taking their cues from these Web logs, the blogs that are, you know, engaged in this debate. And I want to show you some of the issues they've been raising and give you a chance to respond. The first one comes from Josh Marshall at TalkingPointsMemo.com. He has looked at your record and says, here's a guy who voted against the Clinton economic plan in 1993 and for the Bush economic plan in 2001. And here's what he said. "I just cannot understand how someone with those votes and that overarching position can be the titular head of the Democratic Party. It just doesn't make sense."

STEPHANOPOULOS: Why should Democrats pick someone who was against the party on these core issues?

ROEMER: The '93 vote, George, was a vote that -- I thought that the party did not need to raise taxes, that there were other alternatives for us on the spending side, that there were other more moderate and conservative Democratic proposals that were out there that would have still made some of the tough choices.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you still think it was the right vote?

ROEMER: I still think it was the right vote. I worked with the Clinton administration all the way through the Clinton years with president Clinton, with the chiefs of staff, Erskine Bowles and Leon Panetta and John Podesta on building education and increasing funding for children on Headstart programs and education flexibility. I worked on a balanced budget with the Clinton administration. I worked with people such as Nancy Pelosi on intelligence and national security issues, when she was a member of the Intelligence Committee. Nobody is questioning Nancy Pelosi's Democratic credentials, and she was one of the people encouraging me to get into this race.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me go to another issue because -- it looks like the big issue on the domestic agenda this time around is going to be Social Security reform, and others have looked at your votes there and they've particularly -- they take out one called Filner amendment in 2001. It was a vote to block any funding for implementing the recommendations of President Bush's Social Security commission. You voted against that. That's been interpreted as a vote supporting some sort of private accounts. And here's what Chris Bowers of mydd.com said, "Unless Roemer publicly, loudly and completely repudiates his recent position on Social Security, he is utterly unacceptable as DNC chair. Mark my words. If Roemer becomes chair without doing this, I will actively encourage all progressive activists to donate and volunteer to third party groups instead of, and at the expense of, the DNC." Will you repudiate that vote?

ROEMER: Publicly and loudly, I will explain what that vote was. That vote was not anything about Social Security. It was simply giving the money to propose -- to let the study come forward, George. The bloggers -- the Internet is a very, very useful tool for us to communicate with voters, ideas. I'm very excited about it. But it can also misinterpret a vote.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So you're not for President Bush's plan?

ROEMER: I think, George, that when we talk about national security and Social Security, Democrats need to articulate our differences with President Bush. And these are two areas for us to make great grounds, both on the national security side, where I was on the 9/11 Commission, where we're not making good progress on the war on terror and on Social Security. I think the president is trying to dismantle our safety net on social security, trying to take away one of the three legs of the stable stool where he's claiming the sky is falling. We all know from the actuarial tables there's no harm done to Social Security for 35 years.

What's his plan? What's the hurry? Why is proposing cutting benefits potentially by a third and a half? Shouldn't we be balancing the budget before he spends $2 trillion of our payroll taxes on a private system that gambles the savings of our senior citizens? I don't think the president's plan is wisely thought through, and I think the Republicans are even going to propose that this thing be put back.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So it sounds like you're against it.

ROEMER: I am not for the president's plan, and I think I want to make sure that those bloggers understand that.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, the issue of abortion. You've said you're pro-life, and a lot of choice activists say that your record is against their interests. And it's been a record anti-choice, and one final blogger Kevin Drum of washingtonmonthly.com says, "You either believe in a right to choose or your don't. I don't see how you can tap dance around a core principle like that." Your response?

ROEMER: My response is when I was in Atlanta the past couple of days and would talk about this issue -- first of all, I think our party needs to be more inclusive, George. George Bush, when he travels around the country campaigning for re-election in the last month of the campaign, who is he seen with?

Well, he wasn't seen with Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. He was seen with Rudy Giuliani and Arnold Schwarzenegger: two people that don't have the same views as him on abortion. I'm not asking to rewrite the platform. We have a majority of our party, an overwhelming majority of our party, that is pro-choice, and I respect that. But I think we should not only be more inclusive on this issue, especially in the Midwest and the south if a candidate has those view, we should have them in our party.

ROEMER: We should also have a conversation about this. Anna Quindlen, who I believe is a lifetime Democrat and pro-choice person, writes for Newsweek magazine, very respected writer, said in a Newsweek article about a month and a half ago, that the Democrats need to have a dialog on this issue.

I was very encouraged the last couple days when I talked to members of the DNC, who said to me, "Tim, we need to think about this issue. We need to talk about this issue." Nobody wants to be in a position of having an unwanted pregnancy. How do we try to prevent that situation? How do we try -- in the Clinton years, when I worked with them, to reduce the abortion rate by 11 percent through counseling, economic security. All I want to do is have a conversation in my party and broaden that tent, not rewrite...

STEPHANOPOULOS: And that conversation has begun today.

ROEMER: ... the (inaudible) platform. Thank you.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Carson Roemer, thank you very much.

ROEMER: Great to be with you, George.



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As far as the interview itself goes . . . (3.00 / 1)

Although I completely agree with all of Chris'  Roemer diaries, Roemer deserves credit for discussing the role of faith and national security in the Democratic party. I thought Roemer represented himself very well. He was straightforward and upfront about his postions. I don't think he ducked a single question. I also don't think Roemer has any business as DNC chair.  

 One a third point, abortion,  we don't have to like Roemer's pro-life position, but we also can't afford to ignore it. Whether anyone likes it or not abortion will continue to be a prime issue in the national dialogue and we need to be respectful of genuine heartfelt views that we disagree with. We also need to explain our postion on abortion more clearly and the consequences, to all women and families, of the right wing position.

There are principled conservative Democrats like Roemer, Bayh, Salazar and even, Joe Lieberman, who disagree with us on certain issues, but are still a vital part of our coaltion. It's time to stop the "Fuck the DNC Democrats", "Fuck the Michael Moore Democrats" and "Fuck the Southern Democrats" hysteria.

The Democratic tent is large and broad and it should remain that way. The Greens and the Naderites are a vital voice both within and outside of the party. For now the Democratic party is the only game in town that is capable of opposing the real enemy--President Bush and the Republican majority in both houses of Congress.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 02:14:41 PM EST

Re: As far as the interview itself goes . . . (none / 0)

You're reasoned and sensible in your analysis of Roemer and much better informed about him than I am. That being said, I thought he was simply slimy this morning on TWWGS.

I was particularly annoyed that he couched the humanitarian efforts in SE Asia as "war," and that he seemed incapable of giving an answer about social security.

I think his premise that the Democrats aren't inclusive enough is incorrect. Isn't our willingness to embrace corporate support while claiming liberal sensibilities part of our problem. That we can claim both capital punishers and peaceniks, union members and college professors seems pretty inclusive to me. (The same can be said of the Republicans--I don't see it as a distinction.)

Begala said it best when  he said Liberals see themselves as intellectually superior; Conservatives as morally superior. The beauty of this is that intellectual superiority can be demonstrated, as can moral hypocrisy.

We need to embrace our braininess and stop wishing we were more religious.

Roemer's a better looking, better trained lapdog than McAulliffe. Glad you agree he has no business as DNC chair.

by leolabeth on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 02:40:11 PM EST
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Re: As far as the interview itself goes . . . (none / 0)

I beg to differ on his statements on faith and religion. I didn't have a bit of problem with anything he said. I also didn't hear anything that Kos would have a problem with based on his diary On faith and values

Liberals, outside the black churches, have ceded the moral language to the Right, in large part because of people like me who flinched at every reference to God by a Democrat.

But using Christianity or Buddhism or any other religion as a moral foundation is really no less superior than the moral structure I use to guide my life (I'm a utilitarian). All that should matter is that we all arrive at the same conclusion.

In other words, it doesn't matter how we get there, as long as we all arrive at the same place. And there should be no shame for Democrats to explain the reasoning for their value structure. And if Jesus is the reason, then so be it.

We need to stop confusing religion with Jerry Falwell. I would respectfully suggest that you check out Pastor Dan over at dkos. There is a vital faith based wing of the Democratic party. The protest that finallly ended the Vietnam War was very strongly faith based.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 02:49:31 PM EST
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Roemer is not a viable option (none / 0)

We need more Democrats on the bus

Roemer's short bus doesn't even have the room for our current coalition. Tim Roemer would splinter the Party.

by Bob Brigham on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 02:39:52 PM EST

Re: Roemer is not a viable option (none / 0)

I'm opposed to Roemer for DNC Chair. I'm just opposed to the bloodletting that is splintering the party. My comments are only intended to give him a seat on the bus, not elect him to be the bus driver.
by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 02:51:08 PM EST
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I'm with Chris on this one. (3.00 / 1)

I liked Roemer on the 9/11 Commission.

But his position with the Mercatus Institute is deeply troubling.

At best it indicates that he's dangerously out of touch with political reality or desperately susceptible to blandishments and financial incentives.

At worst, it indicates that he's a "pet Dem" for the rightwing--- a quisling to the Dem Party and progressive thought.

Dems and progressives are in for some hard times. The wheat will be separated from the chaff. We should take names and kick ass of those who are corrupted by the dark side--- for what ever reason.

by Southern Patriot on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 02:56:45 PM EST

Roemer (none / 0)

Was Roemer asked about Mercatus and, if so, what was his repsonse.

Notice that while Roemer indicated his opposition to Bush's "plan," he didn't state his unequivocal oppostion to "personal accounts."

by Paleo on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 03:01:53 PM EST

Re: Roemer (none / 0)

Mercatus didn't come up. I think Roemer owes us an explanation on that account even if he wasn't running for DNC Chair.
by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 03:33:35 PM EST
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Explanation for budget votes? (none / 0)

He totally dodged the question of why he voted for Bush's economic plan in 2001. He defended his vote against Clinton's plan, but then he just started name-dropping.
"I still think it was the right vote. I worked with the Clinton administration all the way through the Clinton years with president Clinton..."

Clinton administration/Clinton years/President Clinton -- can you say redundant?

"...with the chiefs of staff, Erskine Bowles and Leon Panetta and John Podesta on building education and increasing funding for children on Headstart programs and education flexibility...
More reciting of names. And he was asked about the economic plan, not education; he's trying to change the subject.
"I worked on a balanced budget with the Clinton administration."
So... he worked on it before he voted against it? He supported it before/after he opposed it?
"...I worked with people such as Nancy Pelosi on intelligence and national security issues, when she was a member of the Intelligence Committee. Nobody is questioning Nancy Pelosi's Democratic credentials, and she was one of the people encouraging me to get into this race."
More subject-changing and name-dropping. He was asked about his votes on economic plans, not intelligence or nation security. And while I respect Pelosi, an endorsement from status-quo party leaders is not a positive in my book.

And bottom line, I don't trust someone who won't give a straight answer to a straight question.

by Horq on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 03:43:20 PM EST

Even if you set aside... (none / 0)

...all of the questions about choice, Social Security, Mercatus, etc., Roemer offers no specifics on how intends to accomplish increasing ridership on the Democratic bus.  Identifying Democratic underperformance begs the question of reforming the positioning, tactics and 'customary and usual' practices responsible for these poor results.  Roemer just leaves us begging...
by Steve in Sacto on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 04:30:02 PM EST

"third party groups" (3.00 / 0)

That's an important clarification that's probably missed by most. What's happened with the Democratic party, with the soft money and millionaire supporters no longer able to make large sum donations to Dem orgs like the DNC/DSCC/DCCC is that they've went elsewhere, creating this whole infrastructure that is being built outside the Democratic party organizations. And, in almost every respect, these 3rd party groups are more effective than the the Democratic Party groups, and that's after only one election.

I'm convinced that the mental framework of those in the ASDC and Congress is that the small donors have merely replaced the previous large-money donors, and that we have no where else to go. What the Democratic Party leadership in DC and these states needs to realize is that the DNC relys upon the small donor as it's netroots ATM, yet the netroots does not rely upon them. We have just as much an opportunity to win campaigns by working with these outside organizations as we do by ATMing with the DNC et. al.

by Jerome Armstrong on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 04:34:29 PM EST

Martin Frost? (none / 0)

Pat Buchanan predicted today on The McLaughlin Group that Martin Frost would be the next chair of the DNC. Not that I am a fan of Pat Buchanan but he does not subscribe to the Republican establishment line and has been known to have many issues with the Bush administration. Plus watching a show like McLaughlin Group provides some unique insight that is not usually found with other shows.

I would be fine with Martin Frost. He is from Texas and a bit more moderate than the overall average Democrat but hardly the 'southern' Democrat of yore. Also he is quite skilled at elections and was head of the DCCC for a time.

As much as I admire Howard Dean I do not think that we need a social revolution at this point. It is clear that we lost at least one out of the last two elections because we were pereceived as being socially and culturally out of step with the majority of American voters. That is different than a majority of Americans as I believe that alot of non-voters would likely support Democrats if forced to vote. That is the reality.

by southerndemnut on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 04:46:54 PM EST

Reid (none / 0)

Harry Reid is pro-life, no? how come every time someone mentions pro-life democrats in positions of authority, they act like it's science fiction?

why does Harry Reid's name Never Ever get mentioned?

maybe we should elect a DNC chair that endorses preemptive war against iran. that might work.

by benjoya on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 05:07:05 PM EST

Re: Reid (none / 0)

Reid has said many times his personal belief is that he opposes abortion. He has also said that he believes judges need to respect and defend every individuals' right to live according to their own conscience.

The point is that in the last session he was the one who blocked the 10 hard-line Bush nominees.

So does that make him a pro-life nightmare -- or a model for how democrats defend individual liberties without getting hung out to dry as being "for abortion."

by desmoulins on Mon Jan 10, 2005 at 01:48:17 AM EST
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Re: Reid (none / 0)

So does that make him a pro-life nightmare -- or a model for how democrats defend individual liberties without getting hung out to dry as being "for abortion."

i'd like to believe the latter, but it seems we're getting hung out to dry anyway. Reid's position on abortion arguably helps make us a "big tent". Why doesn't anyone bring it up?

by benjoya on Mon Jan 10, 2005 at 11:08:14 AM EST
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Re: taking names and kicking ass (none / 0)

Yeah, on that: Let's go on the offensive.

At this point, it really doesn't matter what Roemer says in his defense. His Mercatus Institute standing is a serious strike against him and our fears are confirmed by his budget votes, and historic stance on social security and a woman's right to choose. In other words, he's a no go. We absolutely reject his candidacy.

So here's my question. Who in Congress disagrees? What about other Dem leaders (e.g. DNC members, state party leaders)? Pelosi and Reid, of course, but has anybody else heard of others? We oughta be contacting the hell out of those guys, and relaying Chris' threat, with which I'm in total agreement: if the DNC is led by Roemer, than the DNC will lose the netroots as a source of funding. We have other progressive options and our shitload of money can go to those.

And let's start today, right now, immediately after his This Week appearance. Contact Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi today.

by Colorado Gringo on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 05:16:16 PM EST

Check out thetalkingpointsmemo.com (none / 0)

From Josh Marshall:

A new member of the Senate's Fainthearted Faction: Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas.

Notwithstanding Sen. Arlen Specter's declared opposition to a private-accounts-based Social Security phase-out, Sen. Lindsey Graham is putting together a working group of six senators (seven, including Graham) "seek[ing] agreement on a bipartisan blueprint for shoring up Social Security, preferably before President Bush outlines his plan and partisan lines harden in Congress."

So reports Thursday's Wall Street Journal.

The six include 2 Republicans and 4 Democrats. And Graham is holding the meetings with the "encouragement" of the White House. A new member of the Senate's Fainthearted Faction: Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas.

by Southern Patriot on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 07:40:32 PM EST
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Just to be clear... (none / 0)

I'm not for purging the party. I suggest that the Dem leadership take a hard look at Bush's agenda and select three issues where party unity is absolutely mandatory.

Bush's agenda isn't a secret. He's only got a few goals. My mandatory list would include voting with the party on Social Security, Tort Reform and judicial appointments.

If they can't stick with the party on those issues then throw them overboard. Let the Republicans have'em. Cut'em off 100%--- no money, no assistance and a guaranteed primary challenger with party money and personal endorsements from party leaders.

This may hurt in the short run but, believe me, in the long run it'll be absolutely necessary to beat the discipline, power and enticements of the Republicans.

by Southern Patriot on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 08:00:46 PM EST
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Re: Just to be clear... (3.00 / 1)

""seek[ing] agreement on a bipartisan blueprint for shoring up Social Security"

I don't have a problem with a bipartisan blueprint that raises the payroll cap to $200K.

by Jerome Armstrong on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 09:06:29 PM EST
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Now you're getting where we need to go. (none / 0)

How do we beat the obstructionist label? Offer our own solutions.

So what if the Republicans won't let them out of committee. Then we scream bloody murder beat them over the head as "anti-democratic obstructionists who're afraid to let a good solution out for a vote."

Just turn the Republican whine about their judicial nominees on it's head.

Hey, two can play this game.

by Southern Patriot on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 11:32:19 PM EST
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Faith is important (none / 0)

We need to reach out better to voters through religion. Pro-life doesn't just relate to abortion. It can also mean anti-death penalty, the right to an education, the right to free medical care.

Roemer is not going to change the party's stance on abortion. Rather, he is going to try to welcome pro-life voters back into the party to find common ground with them

by Demboy on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 05:37:29 PM EST

Re: Faith is important (none / 0)

I'm a big fan of common ground.
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 07:55:15 PM EST
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I see a blogger consensus emerging (none / 0)

(1) Roemer should repudiate the Mercatus Institute. Dems should not participate in the Republican Noise Machine.
(2) Congratulations to Roemer for making clear his opposition to Bush's plan to gut Social Security. Other so-called conservative Dems must do likewise.
(3) We have and should keep open seats on our bus for people wiith Roemer's package of views, including his opposition to at least some reproductive freedoms, especially such people can help us win in the South.
(4) However, somebody with that package certainly should not be driving the bus.
(5) Rosenberg and Frost may become interesting and effective compromise candidates. (I love Rosenberg, myself.)
(6) We need a term more inclusive than "527s," but less confusing than "third party," to cover all the organizations (ACT, MoveOn, League of Conservation Voters, NOW, and so on) which are not the Democratic Party but which help Dems win elections. I move we call them "avocados" until someone comes up with a better name. If Tim Roemer becomes chair without repudiating the Mercatus Institute I will work only for avocados in the next presidential election (though I will keep working for the MN DFL in '06).
by accommodatingly on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 05:59:54 PM EST

We are all 'pro life' (none / 0)

I would suspect we all also support a womans right to choose whether she has a baby, given the huge impact that will have on her life, more than anybody else's.
Democrats need to stand up for improved sex education and access to contraception for all women (and men).

I think that what we are really seeing is a stealth war on sexual expression and a campaign to further marginalize poor people and depress wages by ensuring that people have unwanted children.

If the GOP really was 'pro-life' they would stop doing things that KILL us...

Access to affordable health care would be a start.. why is the health status of women and children declining in the US. Why is the US becoming a Third World nation when it comes to access to health care.

We pay more and get less than anyone else in the world.

by ultraworld on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 09:05:52 PM EST

Roemer's (none / 0)


connection to a right-wing-funded organization is unpardonable under most any circumstances, but especially if he is to reform and lead the party. He's got some serious explaining to do.

BTW, it is good to see GS based a portion of his interview on his reading of Josh and Chris/Jerome's blogsites. It's a sure sign the mainstream is starting to heed the liberal voice.

by Norcal Lib on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 10:35:50 PM EST

Roemer (none / 0)

If Roemer is the new DNC Chairman then I will the Democrat Party for the Green Party.
by SRconbio on Mon Jan 10, 2005 at 02:10:01 AM EST


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