Get With The Program DLC

The founding mission of the DLC was, basically, to Republicanize the Democratic Party on economic policy. However, what I often find most consistently frustrating about the DLC is their repeated insistence on Republicanizing the Democratic message:
"It's eerily similar that in '93, the Clinton administration said there was a health care crisis," said Marshall Wittman, a senior fellow at the Democratic Leadership Council. "That's why you hear many Democrats now drawing the line on the question of whether there is a Social Security crisis."
The question of whether or not there is a Social Security crisis? Way to leave an obviously fabricated crisis open to debate DLC. The crisis is so obviously fabricated that at the Republican Party retreat they are openly trying to change the deadline of the supposed crisis for political gain:
Party leaders and White House officials who gathered at the Greenbrier resort also discussed a new rhetorical twist in their campaign to remake Social Security. In meetings on Friday, Treasury Secretary John W. Snow and Representative Bill Thomas of California, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, discussed redirecting public attention on 2008 as an imminent danger point for the Social Security trust fund because baby boomers will begin retiring, people present said. Even the most dire analyses say the fund will remain solvent for a decade or longer after that.
While the Republicans are openly trying to invent a new deadline for a crisis they are already trying to invent (see also here), the DLC somehow is still considering whether or not there is a crisis. No wonder DLC affiliated politicians dominate the Fainthearted Faction. Memo to all involved: there is no crisis.

Coming up next: the DLC tries to decide whether or not Democratic activists are part of the oppressive liberal elite destroying the common man. Oh, wait, they already said yes. Perhaps MyDD's local DLC member, KYDem could give us some insight to the message struggles of the DLC.



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Wow! (none / 0)

Wow!
by phatass on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 05:59:32 PM EST

thanks (none / 0)

Thanks for the shout-out.  Give me a few hours.  Study comes first.

DISCLAIMER: Many politicians I personally know are in the DLC and that is why I joined.  Networking.  I believe in economic responsibility.  I know there is no Social Security crisis.  I have long been opposed to privitization.

I am split on affirmative action.

Where I stand on the issues

Bayh talked some about social security today.

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 06:19:20 PM EST

Re: thanks (none / 0)

I missed Bayh's comments on Social Security Ky Dem. He seems to be straddling the fence and I'm surprised he has chosen to remain among the Faint Hearted Faction. If this is the best he can do, I don't understand why anybody is suggesting he might be a presidential candidate in '08.

There has been very little movement in the Fainthearted Faction and considering the polls and near unanimous opposition to privatization in the Democratic party, that is surprising. If Bayh and the rest of the DLC members on the list want to declare their ideological independence from the Democratic party, this seems like exactly the wrong issue to do it on.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 06:37:41 PM EST
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Re: thanks (none / 0)

that's probably a form letter typed by an intern to be sent to constituents.

back to work.

I missed This Week with George

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 06:42:48 PM EST
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Will the DLC ever wake up? (none / 0)

I don't think they realize the price they will pay if the Democratic party moves to the right instead of the left, both on message and on the issues. It looks to me like the party and the country are both at a tipping point. The context for Iraq, Social Security and the economy are all poised to go dramatically against Bush policies.

If the DLC succeeds in keeping the Democratic party tilting towards Bush and the Republicans it could be as large a disaster for the Democratic party as it is going to be for the Republican party. I just started America Right or Wrong and The Second Bill of Rights just arrived UPS.

There's a powerful message out there if the Democratic party reaches out for it. If they continue trying to stay on the fence, the political revolution could happen without them.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 06:24:15 PM EST

New Democratic Credo (none / 0)

I agree with a majority of this.
New Democratic Credo

In keeping with our party's grand tradition, New Democrats reaffirm Jefferson's belief in individual liberty and capacity for self-governance. We endorse Jackson's credo of equal opportunity for all, special privileges for none. We embrace Roosevelt's thirst for innovation and Kennedy's summons to civic duty. And we intend to carry on Clinton's insistence upon new means to achieve progressive ideals.

We believe that the promise of America is equal opportunity for all and special privilege for none. We believe that economic growth generated in the private sector is the prerequisite for opportunity, and that government's role is to promote growth and to equip Americans with the tools they need to prosper in the New Economy.

We believe that government programs should be grounded in the values most Americans share: work, family, personal responsibility, individual liberty, faith, tolerance, and inclusion.

We believe in community; that we can achieve our individual destinies only if we share a commitment to our national destiny. We believe in an ethic of mutual responsibility in which government has an obligation to create opportunity for citizens, but citizens have an obligation to give something back to the commonwealth.

We believe America has a responsibility to lead the world toward greater political and economic freedom.

We believe that as advocates of activist government, we need to reinvent government so that it is both more responsive and more accountable to those it serves and to the taxpayers who pay for it.


The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 06:27:10 PM EST

Re: New Democratic Credo (3.00 / 1)

Now that one I know is a form letter that changes from region to region.

The New Democrat

by demburns on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 06:52:50 PM EST
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talk about out of context (3.00 / 1)

You arrested, tried, and convicted the guy all on one sentence which was hopelessly taken out of context.  Isn't there a hearsay bar for friendly fire?  The author, Mr. Wittman, appears to be saying that the Democrats are following the same playbook Republicans used to shut down the health care reform plans of Clinton in '93... by drawing into question the entire premise of the debate - that is that there's a crisis to begin with.  So actually, it appears you're in agreement.
by flavorflav12 on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 06:41:48 PM EST

ceasefire (3.00 / 1)

Lets save our energy for fighting the Republicans.  
by history prof on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 07:19:54 PM EST

Re: ceasefire (none / 0)

I've been trying to say this for months now!  Attack the GOP, not fellow dems!
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 07:21:58 PM EST
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Re: ceasefire (none / 0)

I agree. I'm tired of getting on these blogs and hearing DLC this, republican-lite that, etc. It's getting old to tell you the truth and as I've said before, it's a circular firing squad that we're forming. The republicans won the white house, expanded their senate majority and got gerrymanded into an almost permanent republican house majority and all you have to say is DLC this, DLC that. What a waste of time and blogspace.

Talk about how we make the DNC and the democratic party stronger. Dean is and he has a damn good point. We need to focus on infrastructure and that means both progressives and moderates working together to better the party. Please stop wasitng my time with this kind of diatribe. It's whiny and doesn't get us anywhere.

by lobejammer on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 07:58:14 PM EST
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No ceasefire (none / 0)

No ceasefire until the next candidate for the Presidency is nominate.  The dlc makes it impossible to fight republicans.  For instance there insistance that Kerry support the Iraq fuck up and then apologize for being against Viet Nam, made it impossible to fight back against swift boat ads, and  hit Bush on this crappy war.  

If we had followed them on Social Security, we would  be in danger of getting it privatized since that is clearly what they were going to do before the netroots rebelled, and if we had listened to them no dem would stand up against torurer Gonzolez. We can't fight them unless we fight the dlc. The dlc clearly won't allow dems to fight them on anything.  This is why everything must be done to insure they aren't leaders of the party anymore.  If they aren't moles they are retards.

by noalternative on Mon Jan 31, 2005 at 05:01:53 AM EST
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The Rise of the DLC (none / 0)

The hallmarks of a group like the DLC were being aggressively pro-business on issues which at the time appeared to have few or no consequences toward the traditional Democratic power bases.

After all, it was Uber-Democwat Jimmy Carter who signed in the first round of national deregulation laws with things such as the airlines. That act alone was sort of like the first packing of the snowball at the top of the hill. The DLC could have drawn the line somewhere, but instead let the snowball keep rolling down the hill towards the Alpine village. Now that the old bulwarks of the town have been crushed like unionized labor and suddenly for the first time, the rank and file living in the center of the town realize if nothing is done the whole town will be destroyed. The DLC says, even though it is our fault for not stopping the snowball at some point, how about we relocate the town to the right because that is easier than owning up to our own mistake?

And it just keeps coming: "free trade", immigration, the DLC continues to believe that you can have the cake and eat it too. NeoCons, NewDemocrats, Reform Party. Same pig, new lip-schtick. It's like this: "Paleo-conservatives"  were anti-taxation because they believed government should do only a few things and do them well. "Liberals" raised taxes because they felt that it was wrong to borrow endlessly to repair social ills. Both of them usually remember the Depression when you couldn't whip out the Visa for dinner at the Outback even if you no money in your checking account. The "New Democrats", the "Neo Conservatives": it's the same Baby Boomer self-indulgence.

We can cut taxes and fight wars. We can fight terrorism and not be energy independent. We can find quality jobs and shop at Walmart. We can scam our earnings reports and glean millions and the financial sector will barely even notice. We can be hawks without worrying about a military draft.  We can eat what we want and stay fit.

This is the reason that plenty of good people are  swept into the NeoCon-DLC vortex. They see what others have and they figure...why should I bear more of the burden than the next guy? And the only problem is, the day fast approaches when it's going to require tough choices.

Do you want to own a home, or send your kids to college? Do you want to have a fun, enjoyable retirement that last five years or a miserable one that lasts twenty? Do you want to be the only person on the block with a flat-screen TV but without health care? Do you want to live in a safe neighborhood but have to sleep on the floor?

This is the future we face; not because we have to, but because it's easier to move the village than to stop the snowball.

by risenmessiah on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 07:36:17 PM EST

Re: The Rise of the DLC (none / 0)

This was very well written, I hope you're writing some of the party's material!   I didn't agree with all of it, but I sure did enjoy reading it.
by Purple Foxglove on Mon Jan 31, 2005 at 03:58:42 AM EST
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Who's on the ASDC Executive Committee, you ask? (none / 0)

Here is the link to their website and below a list of the Executive Board members:

http://www.stateparty.org/index.php?display=StaffLeaders

Mark Brewer, President
Paul Berendt, Vice-President
Raymond Buckley, Vice-President
Amy Burks, Vice-President
L Carmichael, Ex-Officio Member
Rickey Cole, Parliamentarian
Herman Farrell, Board Member
Ann Fishman, Executive Director
Chris Gates, Board Member
Sue Hecht, Board Member
Linda Honold, Board Member
Carol Khare, Board Member

by Pat on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 08:49:03 PM EST

Screw the DLC (none / 0)

They are very much a part of the problem and not the solution.

Centrist and moderates and even right wing democrats are fine but the DLC Leadership is bent on destroying the party from the inside out. Screw'm.

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 09:20:58 PM EST

Re: Screw the DLC (none / 0)

So did you not enjoy the Clinton years?!?

So you don't want Spitzer or Rendell?!?

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 09:45:55 PM EST
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Re: Screw the DLC (none / 0)

hmm, didnt really like losing the house and senate, no.

didnt really like WTO and NAFTA either.
Not getting healthcare reform done wasnt one of my favorite things.

and i am always grateful to Bill for his oval office shennanigins that has allowed the right to demonize us all as immoral athiests.

But other than that, it was great !

by Pounder on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 09:59:01 PM EST
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Re: Screw the DLC (none / 0)

Add Welfare "Reform" and Clinton's crime bill to the list and I'm right there with you, Pounder.   Clinton did more to destroy the Democratic party than any president in recent memory.   All BushCo is doing now is finishing the job.  

The DLC has to go.

by eRobin on Mon Jan 31, 2005 at 08:09:49 AM EST
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Re: Screw the DLC (2.00 / 1)

No... I don't want the DLC leadership destroying the party as they have been. Wake up and smell the coffee. Like I've said, there is no problem with centrists or moderates or whatever else but the DLC Leadership has been trying to drive the lefter (more than just the left) wing of the Democratic party out of the democratic party and thereby have been destroying it. Where do you think all those Nader Dems came from? They came from the DLC's machinations.
The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 10:21:09 PM EST
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Re: Screw the DLC (none / 0)

LOL

VoteHillary doesn't like my opinion much.

Wonder why....

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 10:26:11 PM EST
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Re: Screw the DLC (none / 0)

so if i get this, you hate from and reed and have no problem with everyone else (with the exception of zell miller who i despise)?
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 10:34:05 PM EST
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Re: Screw the DLC (none / 0)

I don't hate anyone. I greatly dislike their goal of destroying the lefter portion of the Democratic Party.

Since I am a Democrat and they are hell bent on marginalizing a significant portion of the party (not to mention the part of the party that I happen to reside in) into non-existence then I oppose From and Reed and anyone else that happens to believe in their goal of pushing the left off into NaderGreenland.

They aren't solely to blame for the Democratic Party being in the shape it is in but they do have a large share of it.

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 11:08:35 PM EST
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Re: Screw the DLC (none / 0)

I'm a Democrat too and I have CFK, DFA linked on my blog if I recall.  If I did not agree with them, I wouldn't link to them.

I took a test that showed I'm a liberal populist but I am not opposed to the DLC.

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 11:50:17 PM EST
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nuttin' to do? slam the DLC (none / 0)

It seems Chris was bored waiting for the DNC chair info to come down and with nothing on MyDD for a couple of hours, decided to go with the old stand-by: attack the DLC.

Thanks KYDem for sticking up for the unpopular DLC against gross distortion.  

Marshall was merely saying the same thing I have read on Kevin Drum or DailyKos, that democrats should use Ginrich's 1993 tactics against his party in 2005. This is incredibly ironic, especially given that Newt thinks he will run for president in 2008.

by DaveB on Sun Jan 30, 2005 at 11:57:37 PM EST

Maybe they know something you don't... (none / 0)

This could be trouble...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050130-110358-7935r.htm
by donkeykong on Mon Jan 31, 2005 at 09:26:23 PM EST


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