Taking Back the House, Part Two

I think the first edition of this series went extremely well. I listed sixty-eight seats that seemed worthy or a serious challenge and readers brought several new winnable districts to my attention. I have added one on my own, IL-14 (Hastert!), and I was sold on eleven of the seats you guys mentioned, bringing us to our goal of eighty. I detail all eleven in the extended entry along with a complete list of all the seats we have agreed upon and a call for commenters to list even more seats (or to argue against seats I have listed). First, I would like to respond to one of the comments in that thread by reader SlinVA:
That list is rather optimistic. Anyone winning by more than 5% is usually considered reasonably safe, absent some major development. Once you get to #10 on that list, the margin is almost 10%. Absent an open seat, the chances aren't that good for most of the list.
Of course most of these seats are longshots. However, you never know what you might pick up if you give it a serious challenge, and putting our full weight behind all eighty would stretch Republican resources extremely thin--especially if we challenge the leadership like Delay and Hastert who are both potentially beatable, if only by longshots. I wrote about this in an article entitled Uncontested. Kos also summed this up perfectly, as he explained how our efforts in two House races that almost went uncontested, both of which we lost, helped us significantly in other races:
Richard Morrison
Morrison started out as a fringe candidate with no money when he was adopted by the Daily Kos community. He raised $60K, which he then turned into a real campaign, one that actually threatened DeLay.

DeLay garnered only 55 percent of the vote, his lowest total ever. He opened up campaign offices in the district and ran television commercials for the first time since his initial House victory. He remained in the district when he could've been out campaigning for other at-risk Republicans. He spent nearly $2 million to defend himself.

We pinned down DeLay in his home district. Mission accomplished.

Stan Matsunaka
Hatemonger Marylin Musgrave was headed to an easy, unchallenged victory, when Stan Matsunaka stepped up to the plate. We raised $44K for him. He lost 52-44.

Musgrave sweat this one. Not only did Musgrave spend $3 million of her own money, but the NRCC also threw in another $2 million to back her up. Matsunaka spent close to $600K and forced Republicans to spend $5 million that could've gone to other races -- all in a district that was almost uncontested.

Mission accomplished.

Only by challenging everywhere will we win. Only by pushing every conceivably vulnerable Republican as hard as we can will we win. That must be our goal.

Here are the seats I added on your recommendations:
  • AZ-05: Commenter zii writes:
    AZ-5
    Rogers (D) 38.2%
    Hayworth (R) 59.5%

    Rogers is a young woman with little professional or political experience beyond being an extremely enthusiastic and hard working supporter of the local (AZ) Dean for President campaign. She leveraged these latter qualities (and the district's moderate tendancies) to a decent showing. (District is approx. 28% Dem, 45% Rep, 24% Ind, 1-2% Lib)

    Lopsided Republican voter registration, but the independents seem to lean Democratic as Bush only managed 53.2% of the district in 2000. With Hayworth probably leaving, it is worth a shot.

  • MI-07: This is just too good to pass up in a district where Bush only won 51% of the vote in 2000. Fitzy writes:
    Michigan's 7th District could have been taken this year if we hadn't wasted the opportunity.

    It was open this year (Nick Smith retired), and on the Republican side there were a bunch of conservatives and one moderate in the primaries, and the moderate, Joe Schwarz, won. All it would have taken would be to run a moderate Democrat (Doug Spade would've been good, he's extremely popular in Lenawee County), and he could have been beaten. Instead, we had Sharon Renier, a nice woman who, sadly, was too liberal for this district.

    Since Schwarz is so moderate (called a RINO by some), I suspect he'll be challenged in the primaries in 2006. It would be tough, but in the right atmosphere a Democrat could win.

    It'd also send a powerful message: Jackson, MI is in the district, and Jackson, MI is where the Republican Party first formed in the 1850s.

    I agree-this would be a great message to send and the seat is winnable.

  • MT-AL: Why not go for it all in Montana? We are clearly on a roll in this state. It looks as though it will be an open seat as well.

  • NH-01 and NH-02: To paraphrase one commenter, how did I miss these two? Voter registration in New Hampshire is titling strongly away from its Republican past, and Dems are now almost equal. Kerry won the state despite losing he popular vote. For these reasons alone, both districts must be winnable, especially NH-02 held by Charlie Bass, who has been targeted in the past, as the second is more blue than the first.

  • OH-16: Tagris notes that "Ohio-16 is most likely going to be an open seat," and it is not a heavily Republican seat either, as Bush won 54% here in 2000 and probably less in 2004.

  • PA-03: See Tim's piece on this one.

  • TX-21 and TX-23: I am keeping all of the Texas challenges in place, as the Supreme Court might still overturn the DeLay map. I am also adding TX-23 and TX-21. Kuff writes:
    TX-23, currently held by Henry Bonilla. Raginillinoian is correct that he squeaked by Henry Cuellar in 2002, but that was before his district was made more Republican by the redrawing in 2003. What may make this a good target is that Bonilla is all set to run for Senate if Hutchison steps down as expected. I'd like to see State Rep. Richard Raymond challenge for this seat, but if it's open, it ought to be a free-for-all.(...)

    TX-21, held by Lamar Smith. Smith nearly lost the Travis County portion of his district to a no-name perennial candidate. A strong candidate, perhaps one based in Smith's Bexar County, could make a race out of this. I've been hoping for current San Antonio Mayor Ed Garza, who is term-limited this year, to take a shot at it.

    A couple of commenters mentioned TX-14 held by Ron Paul, but I am not quite sold. Ron Paul means there will be no libertarian, and while it is less Republican than other districts, remember that I am keeping many of the other districts under the possibility that the DeLay map might be overturned. So I am holding on TX-14.

  • VA-10 and VA-11. Commenter jjbman writes:
    Va 10th

    Frank Wolf has held this seat for 13 terms now, and despite his 26 years in the house, he will only be 67 in 2006, making it unlikely this will be an open seat anytime soon. This district went pretty solidly for Bush both times, 57% in 2000 and 55% this time around, but it is much more friendly to us than other parts of the state. Also, though Bush pretty much held steady in this district, Wolf's support fell from 84% in 2000 to 71% in 2002 to 63% this time around. The district includes a large part of suburban Fairfax county, which has been becoming steadily more liberal for almost a decade now. Also, the district is relatively friendly for us demographically, as 43% of residents have college degrees.

    Va 11th

    The rest of Fairfax county resides in the 11th district, which has been represented by Tom Davis for the last decade. This is probably the most winnable district for Democrats, as Bush lost this district both times, albeit by narrow margins. Also, in this most recent election Davis' support fell from 82% to 60%. This district can be quite fertile for Democrats, as Gov. Warner won this distrit 55-45 4 years ago. In terms of education, the 11th is even more friendly than the 10th, with 48% of residents having a college degree or higher.

    Note: Bush did not quite lose the VA-11t, but it was very close. Jjbman should also note that those with a college degree are not favorable to Democrats, though post-graduate degrees are. Still, the 11th is clearly winnable, and considering the slow trend of VA toward blue status, the 10th is worth a shot.
That brings us up to eighty. I would like to make the list even longer, if possible. I certainly would like to make it better--if I failed to list a good seat but included a hopeless seat, let me know. Here is the preliminary list of eighty Republican seats we have come up with worthy a serious challenge:

AL-03
AZ-01; AZ-05; AZ-08
CA-26
CO-04; CO-07
CT-02; CT-04; CT-05
DE-AL
FL-10; FL-13; FL-22
GA-11
IL-06; IL-10; IL-11; IL-14
IN-02; IN-08; IN-09
IA-01; IA-02; IA-04
KS-02
KY-03; KY-04
LA-05; LA-07
MI-07; MI-09; MI-11
MN-02; MN-03; MN-06
MO-09
MT-AL
NE-01
NV-03
NH-01; NH-02
NJ-02; NJ-03; NJ-04; NJ-05; NJ-07
NM-01; NM-02
NY-03; NY-13; NY-19; NY-23; NY-24; NY-25; NY-26; NY-29
NC-05; NC-08; NC-11
OH-01; OH-04; OH-16
PA-03; PA-06; PA-07; PA-08; PA-15
TX-02; TX-19; TX-21; TX-22; TX-23; TX-32
VA-02; VA-10; VA-11
WA-05; WA-08
WV-02
WY-AL

What else needs to be added? Make your case in the comments.


Display:


Richard Morrison (none / 0)

It also helped that Morrison was the darling of Democracy for America, Dean even ran ads for him against DeLay ...didn't see him on the list for NDN though...
Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:22:49 PM EST

I would generally agree (none / 0)

go after anyone vulnerable. But, can I make a suggestion-namely to not wait until the election year to start going after them. It seems to me that we can start running against them even before a candidate is found to keep their approval numbers low by using the non party orgs such as move on and act- isn't this a good role for them? or maybe if not a new org through the liberal billionaires boys club?
by bruh21 on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:23:19 PM EST

Re: I would generally agree (none / 0)

I agree completely. That is why I want to develop our list ASAP and starting working NOW NOW NOW!!!
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:25:38 PM EST
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Re: I would generally agree (none / 0)

Our DFA group and local Dem party are trying to figure out how we start laying the ground work to pull down Renzi's favorable in AZ CD-1.  Renzi did good at bringing or promising money to the district. We can't wait until next year.  We have to nibble away at him NOW.
by Erin in Flagstaff on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:57:36 PM EST
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Be Realistic, Too (none / 0)

There's nothing wrong with challenging everywhere and trying to get the most viable candidates to run, but this list contains many incumbents that traditionally run ahead of their party's Presidential candidate, such as Tom Davis & Frank Wolf in Virginia. I suppose you want to be in the stongest possible position just in case either of them jumps into the Tidal Basin after being pulled over for DUI with a hooker in the car, but those are steeply uphill races and raising more than token funds will be difficult unless Mark Warner decides he wants to run for the House. The list of truly competitive races will be much shorter.
by SLinVA on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:33:24 PM EST

Musgrave got attacked by a 527 (none / 0)

I don't live there, so I don't know how often the commercials aired, but a disposable 527 called "Colorado Families First" made some EVIL (in a good sense :-P) commercials attacking Musgrave.  One had an actress representing the congresswoman stealing a watch off a dead guy in a coffin, the other had the same actress picking the pocket of a US solider in combat (the first represented an old vote when she was in the state senate that allowed nursing homes to bill people after they had already died, the second represented her vote against a Democraticly sponsored combat pay bonus for soliders).  The commercials were on the web, but thier website has gone poof and so they are no longer there.
by Geotpf on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:41:37 PM EST

MN-1 (none / 0)

This is a very evenly split district in presidential races (51.0% Bush to 47.4% Kerry in 2004).

Rep. Gil Gutknecht is a real wingnut (supports ANWR drilling on theological grounds; favors a national sales tax at a rate over 23%) who has faced a couple of outrageously underfunded challengers lately.  He had some tight races in the late 90s.  Moreover, he is making noises about challenging Dayton for the Senate seat in 2006, which may make this an open seat.

by aretino on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:47:09 PM EST

Re: MN-1 (none / 0)

Looks good. I'll add it.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:36:00 PM EST
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MN 1 redux... (none / 0)

Gutknecht is safer than the poster implies - while Gil is a wing nut he is also a bit of an eclectic and tha plays well there. Remember this is Tim Penny's old district (blue dog Dem turned indie - very popular)... the first Dem to win there in something like 100 years... the guy Penny beat made Gutkneckt look like Wellstone that was how conservative he was...

I was in the 1st before the lines were redrawn and am now in the Second District.

If Gutkneckt is to be taken down it will need to be by a well known 'big name' and I can't think of anyone down there who could do it.

That will be the challenge - finding and recruiting a challenger with positive name recognition.

by dryfly on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:24:58 AM EST
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Re: MN 1 redux... (none / 0)

You need to keep in mind the social and demographic upheaval this district is undergoing.  It's not Tim Penny's district from a quarter-century ago any more.  Now you are seeing lots of Democrats winning where no Democrats had won in a long time.  Of the 13 seats picked up by Democrats in the Minnesota legislature this election, five came from the 1st CD alone.  

We even had Democrats Andy Welti and Tina Liebling winning legislative races in Rochester--where no Democrat has ever won before.  Given that Rochester and Olmsted County contain a large and ever-growing share of the district's population, that bodes well for the 1st CD as a whole.

by aretino on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 11:26:05 AM EST
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Re: MN 1 redux... (none / 0)

There are many options in the 1st if a state rep or senator wants to run.

Someone like Gene Pelowski or Jim Vickerman would be great candidates againt Gutenecht.

by Hughsterg on Fri Jan 21, 2005 at 12:10:00 AM EST
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The New York Nine (none / 0)

I see you listed every Republican held New York district except for the 20th which is held by the biggest reTHUG in the state, John "Brooks Brothers Riot" Sweeney.

I don't have the material in front of me but I've given a lot of thought to the New York Nine. The 3rd and 13th are probably the least winnable of the bunch.

The 20th is the most highly gerrymandered district (all or parts of 10 different counties) and therefore the most likely to stay in the regressive party but... the thug will run for Governor if given a chance so it may be an open seat. If it is open and we field a good candidate then we've got a chance.

The 19th is winnable if we try. I'd have to look at the numbers again for the others but Boehlert and Walsh can also be beat.

The 29th is tough. It was open this last time around and we had a good candidate (Barend) and still lost. Will there be a rematch? Will Kuhl be tougher to beat as an incumbent? Don't know.

Reynolds seat was challenged by a Republican turned Democrat (just so he could run against Reynolds) that funded his own half mil. Doubt that'll happen again so I don't know about that race (26th I think?).

But I do believe that New York is ripe for a strong effort to pick up a few seats, counter act what happened in Texas, and do our part to retake the house... even without illegal gerrymandering!

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:56:32 PM EST

Re: The New York Nine (none / 0)

especially with a guy l ike Spitzer adding to the profile of candidates running
by bruh21 on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 04:59:28 PM EST
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Re: The New York Nine (none / 0)

Exactly. I think 2006 is going to be a good, high profile year for Democrats in New York. Pataki is going down. Clinton will get reelected. Spitzer is everybodies darling right now and by then even more folks around here should be fed up with Bush and his regressive party policies.

With a strong and concerted effort we can translate that into some House pickups as well.

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 05:08:53 PM EST
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Re: The New York Nine (3.00 / 1)

New York New York - I have seen bloggers advocate on behalf of every GOP district being THE competitive race. For the record the gop hold the following 3,13,19,20,23,24,25,26,29.

The voter reg figures push us towards NY 13 (more dems than gops) with an honourable mention to the 25th and 19th which have less than 25000 more goppers and trending more democratic. A look at the state house holdings in each of the CD's tells us only that 29 and 26 are not happy hunting grounds for dems at a state level. A look at the congressional election results tell us that we must have a candidate next time in the 25th; (no shit sherlock) allthough he did get 73.07% (2CP)in 02. The congressional election results also tell us that 24 and 26 were surprisingly competitive. What does it all mean. Well without the presidential CD breakdown there is a crucial piece missing but at this stage I would rank them as follows.

13 - Can't get past that reg voter advantage
3 - A bit of a surprise I know but the NY city dems have proven adept at knocking repub incumbents ie 1 & 2 and both counties voted for Kerry (just). 50/50 in the state house.

19 - Maybe a bit high up the list but half of state house and an incumbent who doesn't mention she is a gopper on her web page. Small reg voter gap too. No photos or mention of Dubya on her web page either.
24 - A sleeper potentially. Competitive but like the next race large reg voter gap.
26 - Competitive but look at the state house and reg voter.
25- Only down this far because no candidate this time and poor result for dem in 02.
20 - only 66/33 (2cp) but a large gop reg voter advantage and the state house districts look ugly.
23 - 71% to 29 % (2cp)and look at that GOP voter reg advantage.
29 - only 9 points in it but it was an open race. If the dems can't win an open race against a bloke who waves a shotgun at his wife then the dems won't knock him off as an incumbent.

Some necessary links:
Voter registration stats
http://www.elections.state.ny.us/enrollment/congress/congress_nov04.htm

CD Maps
http://nationalatlas.gov/congdistprint.html#New%20York

State house maps by member name

http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/mem/

by BENAWU on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 03:40:42 AM EST
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Re: The New York Nine (none / 0)

Thanks. Yeah, I've been through all of that analysis too. A couple things to throw in there... 13 is not as good as it looks on paper. Lots of those registered Dems vote Rep on a regular basis. Law and Order folks. Despite the registration numbers that is actually one of the least competitive districts from what I am told.

The only thing that makes 20 possibly competitive is that it may well be an open seat. My fear there of course is that it will be similar to what happened this year in the 29th where there was an open seat. We lost anyhow.

26 was competitive because the challenger put a half million of his own money into it. I don't see that happening again.

3 has a strong Republican sitting in that seat. It is a possibility but my hopes are:

19, 24, 25, & 23. None of these races have been given the backing for a real challenge in awhile. It would be interesting to see what would happen with top tier candidates and real financial, party, and grassroots backing.

The 10,000 Things
by Andrew C White on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 03:28:47 PM EST
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Ohio Districts (3.00 / 1)

I agree with Ohio 1st and 4th but I feel we need to add the other two on my targeted four districts.

These are:

OH-14.  This is Steve LaTourette's district.  He is about to enter into a slightly controversial marriage, and he lost the most ground in Ohio from 2002 to 2004, going down 9.43% from 72.12% to 62.75%

OH-15 - my own district.  This is noted laptop Deborah Pryce's district.  With almost no visability, Mark Brown shaved 6.57% of his 2002 showing taking her down from 66.59% to 60.02%.  Most of this district (population-wise) is in Franklin County which is moving steadily towards the Democratic party.  Kerry got a 48K margin over Gore's 4K margin in 2000.

Paul

by bringohiohome on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 05:34:27 PM EST

Re: Ohio Districts (none / 0)

OH-14 was one of the most ridiculous races I ever had the misfortunte to watch unfold.

Capri had SOOOO much more money than most well-connected Democrats could hope to raise in traditional ways.  She never had to worry about fundraising, and still got routed.  Not only that, but when you met her, she was geniunely bright and enthusiastic about the run.

Of course, it didn't help having the Cafaro name, mob ties, and all sorts of past indiscretions pasted all over the television screens throughout NE Ohio.

Then there is LaTourette.  He is one ugly sommabitch.  I couldn't stand to see him on the television either.  Unfortunately, any of the nonsense that went down with his wife/ex-wife, will have been completely played out by the 2006 campaign.

She really should have done a whole lot better though.  Many had such high hopes for that race.

Tim

by Tim Tagaris on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 07:34:53 PM EST
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Re: Ohio Districts (none / 0)

Those both look pretty good. I'll add them.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:35:13 PM EST
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Re: Ohio Districts (3.00 / 1)

Excellent.  The main question is how to properly analyze these districts.  It is such a gross oversimplification to just look at raw vote totals one cycle to another.  

Part of what I'm trying to do is to focus on not only these four districts in Ohio but a number of state house and state senate races as well.

I've been talking with people on the edge of being inside our local party structures (county and state) but they are so disorganized so far I can't get anything useful.  My first meeting was only last Thursday, so I guess I should be more patient.  

With no disrepect to any bloggers, I want to do more than just write on my Ohio based blog about all this.  Having volunteered for the Franklin County party here and seeing what crap they have to work with is just depressing.  We really did so much better this cycle than before but we have one state house district here that is entirely inside the county lines which has not had a Democrat even run for it since before 1998 and we are on 2 year cycles.  That's pitiful.

Sorry to rant, but this is so blasted frustrating.

by bringohiohome on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:43:02 PM EST
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Some Hopeless Causes are worth fighting.... (none / 0)

Another aspect that I think we should focus on is keeping the Republicans in line with their districts.

There are districts where we cannot elect a democrat but we can hurt a specific republican candidate relative to another republican candidate in their primarys.

In those races we can fight issue politics even if we cannot control the party of the person who wins.

Example

Rep John Doe is against SS.  He voted to reduce SS spending for the elderly.  Reduce education.  etc...John Doe voted to let corperate criminals avoid going to jail etc...

Having the most moderate republicans in office in these districts is a step up from the least.  We can't offer any help to the republicans we like the most but we can punish the ones we like the least who are out of step with their voters.

by donkeykong on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 05:37:02 PM EST

Re: Some Hopeless Causes are worth fighting.... (3.00 / 1)

I rarely vote in the Democratic primaries. There are few candidates and even fewer interesting races.

South Carolina has an open primary system, so I usually request a Republican ballot. In the local elections, the GOP primary is often more important than the general election.

For example, there was an open seat for S.C. Senate. On the GOP side there was neo-Confederate Ron Wilson, poster boy for the Religious Right Kevin Bryant, and Chuck Allen, a moderate former State Representative who was a Democrat until he was defeated for having the wrong letter by his name.

While there was a Democrat in the race, Democrats and other progressives should have targeted Bryant from the start, especially after Wilson was eliminated. Allen was probably the most liberal man to have any shot at taking the district, even though he was running as a Republican.

Worse yet, the new Senator, Kevin Bryant, and his friends appointed Wilson to the state board of education, despite the fact Wilson does not have a college education or any teaching experience.

Well, you can read the rest about Wilson here.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/10336861.htm

Good progressive and moderate action, even in hopeless areas, is needed to pull the Republican Party from the far right fringe.

by wayward on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 09:13:38 PM EST
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I know it's early (none / 0)

But is there any chance of getting at people like Ways and Means Chair Bill Thomas? Yes, he's in CA-22, and at this point we all know that California's district map is based on incumbency protection. But today's comments about "gender adjustment" just insulted more than half of his constituents.

I know this fits in the "long shot" category. But I feel like we can punish some of these characters for what they say over the next two years.

by niq on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 05:51:00 PM EST

Maps (none / 0)

This is a techy question
Do you know of any source for gifs/jpgs of congressional districts?
I'd like to either find or help create a site where you could click, first at state level, then district level and it leads to a page w/ info about that district ... everything you'd need to know to consider its worthiness as a campaigning target
Wondering if maps for that exist?  At first glance around haven't found a site like that
by jimpol on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 05:51:28 PM EST

Re: Maps (none / 0)

Ask and you shall receive!
I found the place
http://nationalatlas.gov/natlas/natlasstart.asp

Click on boundaries on the right and select 108th Congress, then redraw

by jimpol on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:05:52 PM EST
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NY 23rd, 24th and 25th (none / 0)

I realize that a quick gander at the numbers in these three Central NY districts would make one think that it would be impossible to win any of these seats. IMHO, all of the incumbents are VERY vulnerable...our problem is that we are in  "upstate" NY.  We don't have a large local donor base. However, we were able to get rid of a republican state senator by replacing her with a solid reformer in David Velesky. Dave won through solid grassroots work and some cash from the state senate campaign run by State Senator Patterson.

WE NEED MONEY to unseat these repugs.  I'm not talking about millions.  We could defeat Mc Hugh, Walsh and Boehlert with say 500-750k -- the media markets in these three districts overlap. With a solid infusion of funds we could go after all of them.

For example, a cardiologist ran against McHugh - the doc has a solid plan for universal health care, is against the war and is a strong supporter of Social Security - he's very likeable and could take McHugh out.  Especially when you consider that he entered the race at a very late date.  He was only able to spend a paltry amount of money -- yet -- he took 29% of the vote! BTW, McHugh and Walsh also have a high number of Social Security recipients in their respective districts....and they will vote with the Preznit....Boehlert may not vote to privatize -- I'm telling you these races are winnable!    

by NYPocho on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:07:53 PM EST

Re: NY 23rd, 24th and 25th (none / 0)

Years ago, say in 98 there was some talk of Boehlert and some other moderate Repubs forming a coalition in the House with the Dems.  Boehlert would have been speaker.  He has already had a strong cvlash recently with Erenie Istook of Oklahoma re funding of Amtrak plus Istook's revenge.  If pushed too far, maybe 20 or so of the moderates will play the role of power brokers rather than doormats.
by David Kowalski on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:04:23 PM EST
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Re: NY 23rd, 24th and 25th (none / 0)

Actually Mc Hugh [NY 23], Walsh [NY 24] and Boehlert [NY 25] - all went ballistic when Istook tried to get rid of Amtrak subsidies that help Central and Northern NY.  Boehlert keeps getting serious far-right challenges, which makes him vulnerable.  Mc Hugh's seat is a recently gerrymandered seat that stretches from the North Country and snakes down to Central New York.  He won largely because he was the incumbent.  Mc Hugh is a red state repug from a blue state.  Walsh was basically unopposed.  Again, with money from the blogosphere - pumped into this area - we could run cross ads supporting all THREE candidates.  BTW, Schumer ran very well upstate, Spitzer is on the move - and we could easily unseat these guys if we make the case that these guys are doing nothing for us EXCEPT helping folks like Istook and others screw us.

But we need MONEY...we have someone willing to fight it out with Mc Hugh.  Dr. Bob Johnson is an excellent candidate.  IMHO, we just need support from the blogosphere to take this seat.

by NYPocho on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:55:31 AM EST
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Illinois comments (none / 0)

I'd go after IL13 before IL14 if you exclude the symbolism of attacking the Speaker.

Dems need stronger candidates in a number of Illinois House races.

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:29:48 PM EST

Re: Illinois comments (none / 0)

Why not do both? Also, you are right about Illinois. Quite a few look vulnerable. I'm looking into more seats there.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:38:16 PM EST
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Re: Illinois comments (3.00 / 1)

Since Bean beat Crane in the most GOP district in the state, I suppose you could reason none of the Illinois districts are completely out of reach.

It might be my bias in where I've lived in the state and where I've spent time, but I can see a reasonable game plan for attacking IL06 (Hyde), IL10 (Kirk), IL11 (Weller), IL13 (Biggert), IL15 (Johnson) and IL18 (if open).

Things I don't like about attacking IL14. It's physically spread out. It's large with dispersed population (Elgin, Aurora and DeKalb). The communities it does have are diverse interests (Fox River communities, exurbs, university town, corn fields, etc). It's in multiple media markets and no media market.

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:53:12 PM EST
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Re: Illinois comments (3.00 / 1)

Given a strong Dem candidate this is my gut feel for vulnerability:

  • IL06
  • IL18 (if open)
(gap)
  • IL10
  • IL11
  • IL13
  • IL15

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:57:20 PM EST
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IL-18 (3.00 / 1)

I'm not sure of the numbers, but isn't Ray LaHood vulnerable? He's been running very scared on Social Security reform.
by niq on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 07:01:25 PM EST

Re: IL-18 (none / 0)

LaHood is running for governor. it'll be an open seat.
by johnny longtorso on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 07:18:48 PM EST
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Re: IL-18 (none / 0)

Count it in.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:31:20 PM EST
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The oklahoma 4th Tom Cole (none / 0)

This district is made up of all or part of 16 counties in central and southern Oklahoma.

http://nationalatlas.gov/congdist/Ok04_108.gif

With the major population centers in Cleveland and commanche counties. The district had a total of 255,854 votes this past election. Cole faced no demicratic opposition. Facing only token opposition from and independent canidate. In 2002 with Brad Henry on the top of the Oklahoma ticket and with  democratic oposition Cole won by only 7.66%. His democratic oposition in 2002 was out spent more than 2 to 1 with 24.9% of the population having and Associate degree or better.
Plus 21.3 minnority

However all this in mind it is Oklahoma but with state senate president protemp Cal Hobson term limted and Gov. Henry back on top the ticket I think It is worth a shot

by xenoph10005 on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 07:20:28 PM EST

Re: The oklahoma 4th Tom Cole (none / 0)

I agree. In a fifty state strategy, we need to try something in OK as well. The 4th is our best shot. Let's go for it.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:29:14 PM EST
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The Pennsylvania 4th (none / 0)

Melisa Hart or as I like to call her Rick Santorium in drag, can be beaten she has never faced a serious challenge and there are more Democrats in her district than Republicans see votes with the Bush about 100% of the time, run Klink won a 1 or 2 percent more Democrat district with 70 to 80 percent routinely.
Councilman Bill Painter
by Painter2004 on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 07:58:32 PM EST

Re: The Pennsylvania 4th (none / 0)

I think you are right about that one. In PA, really only the 5th, 8th, 10th, 16th and 19th are really out of our reach. The 4th and the 18th should both be added.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:27:38 PM EST
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Question: (none / 0)

Aren't you advocating the idea of spreading yourself too thin?
by Mr Moderate on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:03:51 PM EST

Pessimist on Iowa 2 (none / 0)

We eastern Iowa Dems have been banging our heads bloody about Jim Leach for three decades.  We've had good candidates and solid DCCC support in some cycles - but Leach continues to draw 20-25% of Democratic voters, election after election.  Appeals to party control don't seem to work against this guy.

Any genius ideas would be welcome...

by jdeeth on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 10:08:03 PM EST

Please run someone in SC-03 (none / 0)

This district runs down the upper Savannah River region and includes Clemson, Anderson, Greenwood, and Aiken/N. Augusta.

Lindsey Graham turned the district red in 1994. Gresham Barrett replaced him when Graham went to the Senate. My experience is that Barrett is a fairly useless GOP rubber stamp. He faced no opposition in 2004.

I doubt the Democrats can win this. Pickens, Anderson, and Aiken counties have the Right mix of rednecks and suburbanites to keep the district red. Clemson is a blue town, but not large enough or blue enough to make a difference even at a county level. However, Democrats should mount some sort of halfway funded challenge so to remind people in the third district that they still exist. We need Democrats talking about Democratic ideas, if for no other reason than to help Democrats down the ballot. The only political ideas that are being put forward are Rush Limbaugh and the local fools on AM radio that make Rush look like Nader. We need some fresh air down here.

by wayward on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:04:09 PM EST

Nebraska 1 (none / 0)

Fortenberry's win was a big heartbreaker and rallying point for Democrats in NE. 11 points is a really big margin to overcome around here. I will say, though, that he is vulnerable. He may vote to privatize SS. He promised he wouldn't.

phat

by phatass on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:19:37 PM EST

Randy "Duke" Cunningham (none / 0)

Represents part of San Diego and suburbs.  Hey, a Dem won the SD mayor's race as a write-in!  Duke's in his 60's so maybe he's ready to collect Social Security rather than dismantling it.
by David Kowalski on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:43:31 PM EST

There are standard, always mentioned (none / 0)

reasons for taking on races that aren't close, like tieing up resources of the right-wing. Another reason to include in the litany when reminding people of why it's worth the effort is that we are engaged in a long term efforts.

Illinois' 8th district Melissa Bean, is a good example.
www.melissabean.com :

Melissa was also a candidate in 2002. Despite being outspent nearly three-to-one and having little name recognition, she was the most successful general election challenger the current Congressman has faced during his 33-year career.  Melissa is now well-positioned to build on that success and win in 2004.

Races can be seen as a four year efforts. First time around to get the name recognition and show that real race can be run, then the second time to win. If not win, then come close enough to be a reasonable third time winner.

Will Cegelis run again against Hyde in Illinois' 6th? It sure makes sense, doesn't it.

Jeff Wegerson - PrairieStateBlue
by wegerje on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 11:58:41 PM EST

Re: There are standard, always mentioned (none / 0)

I would love to take out Henry Hyde, even more than Hastert.  Yeah, I know Hastert would mean more, but I would love a little payback for Hyde's role in Clinton's impeachment.  
by yitbos96bb on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:46:20 PM EST
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Kansas 4 (none / 0)

THe 4th District of Kansas (which is mostly Wichita and its surrounding counties) was held from 1976-1994 by moderate Democrat (and later Ag Sec.) Dan Glickman, before he was dragged under by the 94 sweep by Todd Tiahrt, who is one of the most radically and in-your-face conservatives in the House (and a leadership want-a-be).  He barely was re-elected in 1996 and hasn't been seriousily challenged since.  The district is certainly Republican, but mainly of the more moderate variety and Democrats normally carries it in Governor races and other close statewide races.
by Corey Olomon on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:04:15 AM EST

MT-AL (none / 0)

I'm not sure Montana at-large will be an open seat, but we still have a good chance at it.  

Word is that Burns will retire, but Rehberg will NOT run for his seat, instead running for re-election to the House.  But he will probably face Senate Majority Leader John Tester (D).  The source for all this hearsay is a member of Tester's family.

If it is Rehberg vs Tester, we've got a great shot.  Tester is a moderate rural dem, and Rehberg is a moron.  Even the Republicans in the state see him as a dim bulb.

by usslider on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:15:50 AM EST

MN 2 & 6 (none / 0)

Chris: you posted on the Minnesota 2 & 6 in part one...

The 6th (Kennedy) was far more competitive last time than it normally would be - his opponent (Wetterling) was famous for having her child abducted then starting a nationwide support & advocacy group... and Kennady still won fairly easily. A lesser candidate would have been smoked.

The district is one of the most conservative German Catholic & right to life areas in the whole Midwest... and the DFL does not 'speak to their issues'...

Unless some one with equal stature as Wetterling steps up - this will be a cake walk for the other team. However there is talk Kennedy will challenge Dayton... so it may be open. However I think Kennedy will not get the nomination if Klein runs instead - Klein is the darling of the real extreme right in the MN GOP...

***********

The 2nd (Klein) won by something like 16% points but to be honest  - I didn't even know who was running against him until I walked into the voting booth... all I know it was a woman who wasn't Klein.

Klein is NOT loved in the Second by most folks (Wingers - 'yes', average voters - 'no'). This is in my estimation the most winnable seat in Minnesota given a candidate with any kind of name recognition...

Klein will be ESPECIALLY vulnerable in '06 because he is perceived as being such a toady for Bush... and at mid-terms, coming off an unfortunate war that Klein ACTIVELY sought and supports. And with a budget mess requireing pain rto reconcile... And Klein actively campaigning for SS privatization...

He will have provided an awful lot of ammunition for challenger... all they meed to do is find one with any kind of name rec...

But my guess is he runs for and wins the nomination to challenge Dayton... and unless the economy get or war gets worse - he beats Dayton. As sad as this sounds, Dayton has not won over  the 'vital middle'... He won last time because he wasn't Rod Grams... worst Senator ever - until Klein gets in.

Wellstone will be rolling in his grave...

by dryfly on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:51:32 AM EST

Re: MN 2 & 6 (none / 0)

Whichever seat is open of those 2 will be the Dems best shot.  Both Kline & Kennedy are talked about as challengers to Dayton, with Kennedy being the frontrunner.

In addition, I don't see why the 3rd is on that list.  The western suburbs have never sent a dem to congress, and unless they nominate a real wingnut, I don't see a dem winning out there.

by Hughsterg on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 10:19:37 AM EST
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TN-3 (none / 0)

I haven't seen TN-3 mentioned yet; that seat was Democratic until the Republican sweep of 1994, when Zach Wamp took it.  Wamp hasn't faced a strong opponenent since, but the right person could pull it off.

TN-3 is a traditionally Democratic area of Tennessee, which now votes Republican since the backlash narrative took hold.  Runs from Chatanooga northeast to Claiborne County and includes some of the Tennessee River and much of the Clinch River (TVA country), the government town of Oak Ridge and some coal mining communities.  It also includes some areas which are traditionally heavily Republican (e.g. Union County) but I believe Chattanooga carries the vote and it has swing district potential.  The two districts to the east (TN-1 and TN-2) are solid Republican territory.  The district immediately to the west (TN-4) is held by a Democrat.

by ACSR on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 01:06:17 AM EST

seats (none / 0)

Many of these states have too many selected races to be credible. No state should have more than 3 races each. To redistribute them is tricky but CA is underdone as is SC, OK, WI etc.

Personally I think the WA Dems will be be busy enough in 06 with the senate race and and should you should ditch WA 5.

by BENAWU on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 04:26:37 AM EST

MD-06 (none / 0)

MD-06, Roscoe Bartlett's (R) seat is going to be open, or so I've heard, due to his retirement. His son seems to be the leading candidate to take his place. This seems like the ideal time to return this district to blue in a blue state.

This district covers most of Western Maryland, basically from Baltimore county over and through the mountains. The candidate fielded for 2004 basically ran NO campaign, as his website didn't list his stances, but rather his positions at previous places of employment and a form to donate money. That is NOT the way to run a campaign. I was so disgusted by it that I voted for Greg Hemingway, the Green party candidate.

Western Maryland is pretty red these days, but had a democratic rep a decade ago. I believe Bartlett won 65%-35% to a very weak challenger. If we could sport the environmental vote to spur the hunters and fisherman that basically cover MD-06, we could have a chance to put some serious pressure on whoever is the Republican candidate in 2006

by BrianL on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 09:40:23 AM EST

Re: MD-06 (none / 0)

I tried to work with the supposed Democratic candidate.  I emailed him, I called him, I even drove out to his house.  He wasn't interested.

Scott Rolle, the Frederick DA, ran a primary challenge against Bartlett last year.  There may be a bruising primary between Rolle and Bartlett Jr. if Sr. retires.  I don't doubt that he's retiring; folks who know him say he's showing early signs of senile dementia.  If we'd had a good candidate last time, maybe we could have done something about that.  Sigh...

One thing about running a candidate in the MD panhandle - it's a lot cheaper than many of these urban areas.  I worked with one of the Dem primary candidates - he said one day as we were canvassing that if he had a half million dollars of personal money to throw into the race he'd have it locked up.  Rural cable time is cheaper.  Rural local papers have cheaper ad rates.  It's a hidden strength of the rethug rural lock - they have to spend less money defending their seats because the counties they represent have less money to begin with.

As DC grows outwards, MD-06 is getting a lot of exurb development.  They're getting hit with water issues, transportation issues...  The Bartlett fortune was made with some slightly shady land deals.  Would be sweet, if we could make something of it.

by Nina Katarina on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 11:50:01 AM EST
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Re: MD-06 (none / 0)

Indeed. I agree with pretty much everything you just said. We could highlight the dementia and land deals, but also highlight the time he held the crown for the "second coming of Christ", formerly known as the owner of the Washington Times.

Now, all we have to do is field a good candidate and get on Kos's dozen to raise that half a million.

Do you know of any candidates that are looking to run in MD-06?

by BrianL on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:33:24 PM EST
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WI01-Paul Ryan (none / 0)

This is friendly territory in two ways. It's a soft Bush district. But even better, it's between Chicago and Milwaukee.

The Dems could flood the district with friendly precinct workers.

Also, Ryan has been out in front on SS private accounts.

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:10:14 PM EST

gotta throw deep occasionally (3.00 / 1)

I'm a big supporter of "stretching the field" and positioning the Dems to gain 60+ seats.

It helps raise money and it allows more people to get active than focusing on twenty races in the official swing districts.

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:12:43 PM EST

Good Call (none / 0)

And this concept is what finally won me over to supporting Dean for DNC chair.  Hastert is a long shot (I live in the CD right next to his...Biggert's district...I missed the first article, but she could be beaten if the right challenger steps up.) as his CD is decently conservative, BUT the makeup is changing as more young people move in.  Great entry.
by yitbos96bb on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:33:52 PM EST

NH-2 - More blue than NH-1???? (none / 0)

I do not know how you could believe that NH-2 was more blue than NH-1.  Except for four years (1990 - 1994 - Dick Swett), the Republicans have held this seat since 1912.  It was a huge upset when we won this seat over Chuck Douglass in 1990, and that victory required: 1) a lot of out-of-state money (raised by Swett's connection to Tom Lantos - his father-in-law), 2) a near depression in 1990 in NH (Bank of Boston RIP, unemployment went from 2% to 10% in district in one year), 3) a very weak incumbent with little seniority (Chuck Douglass was first elected in 1988, had little charisma, voted against local pork and was in the middle of divorce #4) and 4) a great GOTV.

Since Swett was defeated by Bass in 1994, we have not come close to retaking the seat, even when Katrina Swett (Dick's wife and one of the brightest and most charasmatic people I have ever met) ran.  Bass has deep family roots in the district.  His father held the seat for many years.

I would absolutely love to win this seat.  We did it in 1990.  But I think NH-1 is probably the easier hunting.

by Ephus on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 12:50:43 PM EST

As Chris previously coined the phrase Faint Hearte (none / 0)

d faction (love that!), we have to say just because something is hard does not give ANY justification for not fighting.  Just because a party don't win any particular race does not give a rationale to give up and not even try.  Like lifting weights every effort helps you with the next effort.  Its all a rehersal for the next time and maybe next time will succeed.  Even if not,  a party can not afford to go MIA.
Just another Jesus followin' Green for Constitutional Democracy. :-)
dailyJam.blogspot.com
by JamBoi on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 02:00:00 PM EST

NC-11: Get Charlie Taylor (3.00 / 1)

Patsy Keever gave the ethically challenged Charlie Taylor the first competitive race he's had in years in NC-11.

Asheville is a solid blue town, but the old folks in Hendersonville are overwhelmingly red which offsets it. The mountains went heavily for Taylor as well.

Keever's big problems were that she was a woman, a liberal, and from Asheville. Taylor played all three of those up as much as possible in the mountains. It got really nasty.

The DCCC mostly ignored the race until polls showed it getting close. Worse yet, when they got involved, they made the mistake of piggybacking her campaign with Inez Tenenbaum's in SC instead of letting it stay local.

Still, she ran a good campaign and lost by only single digits in a "safe" district. A well organized campaign with a good Democratic candidate who can neutralize the labeling and the right wing attack machine in the mountains can easily win this district.

by wayward on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 09:33:33 PM EST


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