Snap poll, who won the debate?

In the immediate poll of "who won" Kerry did, beyond the margin of error.
		CBS    ABC   CNN  ARG
Kerry		44     45    53   51
Bush		26     36    37   41
Unsure		30     17    10   8
To the question, "can John Kerry be President", yep.

Update (Chris): It's offical--Kerry won the deabte. You know it's true when even Gallup has him up by 16 on that question. Don't let that stop you from emailing, fact-checking, and voting in polls, however. Make sue you visit ARG. No let up!



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Don't leave Kerry out there alone! (2.50 / 2)

Nothing makes a Kerry victory better then taking back the house, pick up an open seat in PA 8

www.ginnyschrader.com

http://www.johnedwards.com/nh
by epv72 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:06:06 PM EST

Re: Don't leave Kerry out there alone! (none / 0)

Ok We all support Ginny.  That is about the sixth time you have posted the same message.
by Michael on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:17:01 PM EST
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Look out (none / 0)

Amen to epv72.

Look for a major slime dump from the Bu$hies in the coming days. They will now be desperate to change the conversation back to what a weakling Kerry is.

I hope the Kerry campaign is ready for it this time. Because it is coming.

by mysteve on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:11:43 PM EST

Re: Trolls (none / 0)

The best way to prevent trolls and trolling is to set a 24-hour delay when someone registers on the website, like Dailykos.

I spend most time at Dailykos because there are virtually no trolls like Hugh, unlike this site and Atrios where ANYONE can almost instantly post a comment.

There certainly is a setting in the Scoop software used by Dailykos, and used by mydd.com.

by publictransit on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:28:35 PM EST
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happy dance, happy dance (none / 0)

Let's give him a mandate and a congress, help GINNY by midnight!

She had the latest start of any targeted race, even if you only give $5, please give and give now!

If you can't give (or have already given $2000), visit www.ginnyschrader.com and sign up for email updates.

by PA08 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:12:40 PM EST

Re: Snap poll, who won the debate? (5.00 / 1)

Yes. The Kerry campaign should expect alot of direct attacks against him this week and he should be ready  to defend any small errors that are blown out of proportion.

Kerry won. Free Republic says it, Fox News said Bush looked "sour" and "angry". A good night for all. Let's gear up people, it's time to bring this race back to us.

by sharris0512 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:14:07 PM EST

Help Ginny (none / 0)

I think this Ginny lady is the real deal.  I just gave $25.  I hope everyone will help Kerry by providing the financial support to elect a Democratic Congress.  LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN.  Lets get this country back on the right track.
by elguapo on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:18:47 PM EST

kill Hugh (5.00 / 1)

That is the saddest attempt at post-debate slime spin I have ever seen.

Jerome -- do you have links for the CBS and ABC polls, or is it on on-TV thing?

by globecanvas on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:19:55 PM EST

poll links (5.00 / 1)

here's a shorlist:
http://www.nbc5i.com/index.html
http://www.cnn.com
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/
http://argusleader.com
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/index.html
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Promos/P95958.asp
http://www.vote.com/vote/60287431/index.phtml
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/debatei/

also, check this out.  democrats.org has a toll that will email EVERY print media outlet in your state.  please go send some feedback regarding the debates:

http://www.democrats.org/media/index.html

Visit us at TexasKAOS, where we're taking Texas back!
by annatopia on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:30:18 PM EST
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Re: poll links (none / 0)

If anyone knows any more such poll links, please post them!
by strings on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:46:25 PM EST
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Re: poll links (none / 0)

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Promos/P95958.asp
http://www.vote.com/vote/60287431/index.phtml
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/debatei/
http://www.tbo.com/
http://nbc25.com/webpoll.asp
http://www.newsnet5.com/index.html
http://www.channelcincinnati.com/index.html
http://www.journal-news.net/
http://www.thewmurchannel.com/index.html
http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=NEWS98
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml
Visit us at TexasKAOS, where we're taking Texas back!
by annatopia on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:50:16 PM EST
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Re: poll links (none / 0)

FLOOD VOTE.COM.  The Bushies have Smirk in the lead.   Get there and vote early, and often.
by Michael on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 12:32:32 AM EST
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Re: Who Sabotaged Kerry's Camera Angle? (none / 0)

Kerry Kicked Bush's ass up and down the stage.  Regardless of the camera angle.  Me smells a troll.
by Michael on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:20:16 PM EST

Kill Hugh (none / 0)

That is the saddest attempt at post-debate slime spin I have ever seen.  Can we troll-rate posts here?
by globecanvas on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:21:00 PM EST

Iraqi Hands, American Heads (none / 0)

The outcome of the first presidential debate seemed to boil down to one sentence.  Regarding the effort in Iraq, Bush said in the debate, "It's hard work going from a place where an individual gets their hand cut off to a democracy."  The reality is that because of Bush we've gone from a place where an Iraqi gets their hand cut off to a place where Americans are getting their heads cut off. Defend America, defeat Bush.

by Mannix6 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:37:31 PM EST

Re: Snap poll, who won the debate? (none / 0)

Bush lied about training Iraqi troops.  He kept saying 100,000.  That's a lie, as ABC pointed out.  It's only 50,000.  We need to repeat that over and over and over and make it the issue that the media fixate on (like Gore's James Lee Witt comment).  It plays into the meme that Bush is either willfully or recklessly clueless about what's really going on in Iraq.
by WSW on Thu Sep 30, 2004 at 11:51:19 PM EST

link for Gallup poll (none / 0)

Chris -- got a link for the Gallup poll?
by globecanvas on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 12:09:07 AM EST

Re: link for Gallup poll (none / 0)

No, I saw it on Larry King.
by Chris Bowers on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 12:37:02 AM EST
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Re: Snap poll, who won the debate? (none / 0)

Kerry clearly won.  Just voted on the joe.msnbc.com poll, it stands at 70/30 Kerry.  We need to participate in as many of these snap polls as possible.  Perception may not be reality, but it sure can shape reality.
by Feebog on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 12:38:07 AM EST

My Letter to the media (none / 0)

Lets see what people have written.  Here is mine.  I sent it to at least 20 different outlets.  Hope it makes a difference.

It is obvious to everyone, except for hard line GOP supporters, that John Kerry defeated George Bush in the first debate. Tonight, John Kerry showed he could be strong and committed leader, looking more presidential than President Bush did. Bush looked out of touch and befuddled for most of the evening, often getting flustered and angered. He even mislead us by stating that 100,000 Iraq police have been trained, when the number is actually 50,000 as ABC and other news organizations have pointed out.

John Kerry offered a clear plan for national security and Iraq. George Bush offered rhetoric and misleading accusations. John Kerry offered a composed and calming demeanor, while Bush looked nervous and anxious. Ultimately, John Kerry left no doubt he can lead the war on terror, the war in Iraq and the continued hunt for Osama Bin Laden. Most importantly, John Kerry will succeed where George Bush has failed.

After tonight, I feel extremely confident in my vote for John Kerry. I urge my fellow Americans to vote for John Kerry and elect a competent leader to bring America back to greatness.

by Michael on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 12:41:34 AM EST

Who won? (none / 0)

You guys need a perspective from a non-Democrat like me: clearly Kerry came off better than Bush.

BTW, the Badnarik campaign welcomes contributions from Democrats who think he might swing the election to Kerry.

by Mark Fulwiler on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 12:57:13 AM EST

Re: Who won? (none / 0)

Sorry to be slow on this, but which party is Badnarik representing?  Is he the Libertarian or the Constitution party candidate?

I've been a third party voter for years, but now I'm a Dem.  At least for this election.

by PonyFan on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 04:01:47 AM EST
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Re: Who won? (none / 0)

Badnarik is a libertarian.
by Mark Fulwiler on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 04:28:53 PM EST
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Re: Who won? (none / 0)

Hmm, support a Libertarian...Hey, I'm in if you promise to make Rove and Hughes disapeer.
by Michael on Fri Oct 01, 2004 at 12:50:28 PM EST
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