Predict the Presidential Election

Amateurs on the web are not the only people trying to project the results of the Presidential election. As Charlie Cook notes, many academics are doing exactly the same thing. Well, I shouldn't say "exactly the same thing," because what they are doing is trying to predict the presidential election right now, while all of the people I link on the President 2004 page will be regularly updating their projections. In fact, the academics are the real predictors, while we amateurs are just trying to give accurate snapshots:
Depending on which numbers you find most persuasive, you can convince yourself that President Bush is virtually certain to be re-elected or will surely lose in November. The vast majority of political scientists and economists who forecast elections based on computer models will be presenting their papers at the annual meeting of the American Political Science Association this week in Chicago, and they are projecting a Bush victory over Sen. John Kerry -- in a landslide, some say. Other analysts, myself included, think Bush faces an uphill struggle.
In the spirit of friendly competition, I am going to go ahead and offer my best guess of the final 2004 election results right now. In the comments, I encourage people to do the same:
        %	    EV
Kerry: 51.8  327
Bush:  46.2  211
Other: 2.0    0
Kerry wins all the Gore states plus FL, MO, NV, NH and OH. I base this prediction on the long-term trial heat mean that has shown Bush stuck at just below 45 since late April, the partisan index, and undecideds breaking 60-40 in favor of Kerry as a result of the Incumbent Rule. Also, this is the result I have seen appear more often than any other during my own projections.

Step right up and make your guess. I have alaso made a permanent link to this thread on the President 2004 page.



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prediction (none / 0)

Prediction:  Kerry wins the Gore states minus WI, and picks up MO, NH, NV  (with FL and OH very close and probably stolen by Jeb and Diebold).   That gives Kerry 270, but two electors are bribed (with billions at stake, this would be easy) and Bush wins without it going to the House.
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 12:53:45 PM EST

My Guess (none / 0)

I am not as confident as Chris, but:

Kerry - 49.6
Bush - 48.1
Other - 2.3

Kerry wins all the Gore states Plus NH and FL with 0.5% losses in MO and OH and 1% loss in NV.  

Jeb and George get into a fist fight because of Jeb's failed attempt to rig the Florida polls for the second straight election.  Jeb reveals he wanted W to lose and will run himself in 2008 so that he can be the first Bush to win two terms.  Voters reject the third coming of Bush by re-electing Kerry and demand a constitutional amendment called the Defense of America amendment, forcing all living Bush family members to be sterialized so no more Bushes can ever threaten our country'w well being or butcher the cliched sayings of the world again.

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 12:53:59 PM EST

BUSH LANDSLIDE (none / 0)

BUSH  56%      EV   350   TO 188 FOR KERRY
KERRY 42%
OTHERS 2%

AFTER DISCOVERING OSAMA BIN LADEN IN OCT AND FINDING TONS OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ BUSH GOES IN TO WIN A MAJOR LANDSLIDE. ALSO
THE OCTOBER JOBS REPORT SHOWS HE CREATED 1.2 MILLION NEW JOBS IN SEPT. THIS WILL BE REVISED DOWN TO  A LOSS OF 50K IN NOVEMBER THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION. AFTER HE TAKES OFFICE IN JANUARY HE
DISAPPEARS AND CHENEY TAKES OVER AND DECLARES WAR ON IRAN, KOREA AND CHINA. IN 2008 HILLARY CLINTON IS ELECTED PRESIDENT WITH 538  ELECTORAL VOTES!

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 01:08:18 PM EST

Re: BUSH LANDSLIDE (none / 0)

Stop using caps
by Chris Bowers on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 01:18:37 PM EST
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Re: BUSH LANDSLIDE (none / 0)

Mr. Keyes, please go back to Illinois.

Or Alabama.

Or Maryland.

Or the planet Zorton in the Flaegh galaxy.

Or wherever the hell you are from.

by Geotpf on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 04:14:50 PM EST
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Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

53-46.  Kerry closes late after being down 18 points, but not enough.
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 01:12:11 PM EST

too early (none / 0)

its too early to predict the electoral vote outcome...it could be a kerry landslide

read all about it here
http://realmichaud.tripod.com/2004Blog/

by realmichaud on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 01:52:34 PM EST

Kerry 49.4% Bush 48.7% Others 1.9% (none / 0)

Kerry wins Electoral Vote 280-258 by carrying the Gore states plus Florida and New Hampshire, but losing Wisconsin.

by Keith Brekhus on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 01:54:32 PM EST

Kerry landslide (none / 0)

After a tough fierce campaign and a ruthless GOTV effort, Kerry/Edwards swept the north-east and midwest,  taking all the Gore states plus adding Ohio, NH, MO-- the surprises came in the south and west where in addition to FL, K/E took NC and Va (by thin margins, but whose counting), and added AZ and CO to a wipeout of Bush/Cheney in NM

by midnight on election night, the ceiling of 400 electoral college votes was visibly reachable ....

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 02:05:55 PM EST

Merka ends the madness (none / 0)

President John F. Kerry ~  52.5%

ranch bound W ~  45.5%

Other ~  2%

Voter turnout ~  60%

 - moeman

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 02:11:57 PM EST

Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

Kerry: 51.0  327
Bush:  46.0  211
Other: 2.0    0

By the way Sen Daschle is a disgrace ..
We need party leaders with Spine.

DEM DASCHLE SEEKS BUSH BOOST; AD FEATURES 'HUG'(drudge)

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 02:35:29 PM EST

Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

In Daschle's defense, he's from a very conservative state (SD) and pretty much has to continually run to the right to stay in office.

That said, I agree he shouldn't be Senate Democratic leader. That position should go to someone who's in the middle of the Democratic party (which pretty much lets out any Democrat from a Red state).

A good Democratic leader should be more liberal than DLC Democrats like Sens. Clinton, Lieberman, and Feinstein, but not as liberal as Sens. Kennedy or Feingold.

Kerry would've been good, but I don't want to even think about the possibility of four more years of Bush/Cheated, so I'm going to assume Kerry defeats Bush in Nov. Still, that leaves quite a few good candidates, such as Sen. Boxer or Schumer.

If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 01:49:55 PM EST
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Kerry Deck of Cards (none / 0)

I don't know if you guys have seen this but there is a Kerry deck of cards for sale on his website.  On every card there a famous democrat.  One card has Ted Kennedy wearing a baseball uniform and hold a bat.  Behind him is a scorebord that says "Kerry 295, Bush 240."

I think this card somehow is going to predict the future.  I'm saying Kerry gets 295 E.V. and 49.97% of the electoral vote.

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 02:37:50 PM EST

Re: Kerry Deck of Cards (none / 0)

Kerry gets 295 E.V. and 49.97% of the electoral vote.

You mean 49.97% of the popular vote, right? 295 E.V. is 54.83% of the electoral vote by definition.

If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 01:52:23 PM EST
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Kerry (none / 0)

rather easily in the end.

Kerry 50.8%, Bush 46.5% - not sure about the electoral college, but a 4% victory SHOULD be enough to do it.

Ben P

by Ben P on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 02:41:11 PM EST

I don't know the percentages (none / 0)

but I've been telling people that the final spread will show Kerry up nationally by 1.6 million popular votes; he carryies the day with about 310 electoral votes.
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 02:46:42 PM EST

Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

Kerry will not win a majority of the popular vote.  Bush will have 20%+ margins all over the red states, keeping his popular vote numbers close.

49.8% Kerry, 47.4% Bush
Badnarik out-polls Nader 2:1.

Major party undecideds break 67% to Kerry (it'll be more like 4 Kerry, 2 Bush, 1 Badnarik, 1 Other - but the 2:1 Kerry:Bush ratio is the important part).  

Current likely voter models are off by at least 1.5%, due to a massive swing in partisan enthusiasm (many Dems who dejectedly stayed home in 2000 will turn out; many Reps who voted in 2000 won't), a surge in voter registrations (folks who necessarily did NOT vote last time but who ARE energized about the election), and a significant swing in overseas ballots from angry anti-Bush expatriates and an unhappy military (small increases in Kerry votes over Gore; large decline in Bush votes).

80% chance: Kerry wins all Gore states + Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire.  296-242

20% chance: Kerry wins Ohio.  If Kerry wins Ohio, he will also win West Virginia, Tennessee, and Missouri.  343-195

by Silent E on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 02:57:06 PM EST

Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

also is the fact that demographics are still slowly trending democratic and a large drop in support for the shrub in the arab-american community.

I'm thinking also that because of the shift of the republican party towards the right that a lot of moderates who are historically republican will stay home or vote for Kerry... they are pretty pissed.  Also is the Log-Cabin Republican type.

I am predicting a big meltdown of the republican party this election, combined with a crappy convention, will give Kerry a rather large victory.  Popular vote around 54.2-42.6.

by Anonymous Citizen on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 04:40:19 PM EST
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Guess (none / 0)

I agree with Chris minus MO-thus 316 to 222.  Interestingly, popular vote will be tighter-48.5 to 47.3.  I used a methodology based on NYT 2000 electoral data- 36% total vote is dem, Kerry retaining 85%: 31% pub- Bush retaining 92%.  Indies breaking 55-45 Kerry.  The dirty little secret about the EC is that it actually helps dems (long term).  
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 03:29:06 PM EST

Kerry wins modestly (none / 0)

Kerry 49.9, Bush 46.8.  Badnarik 3rd in the popular vote, over 1.5 million.  Cobb edges Nader for 4th.

Kerry wins all Gore states plus NH, OH, WV, FL, AR, NV.  Kerry 326 (Dean 1 renegade), Bush 211.

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 03:43:24 PM EST

Re: Kerry wins modestly (none / 0)

I like this one.  I'll agree with it-although I think Nader will be over Cobb in the race for the far left.

by Geotpf on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 04:26:44 PM EST
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The 3rd-party race (none / 0)

Nader has the name recognition, but Cobb should be on the ballot in many more states. I give the edge to Nader, but it'll be close.

Badnarik will be on the ballot in even more states, plus he'll get a few votes from disaffected R's as well as antiwar lefties. Thus he'll probably win the 3rd-party popular vote.

If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 02:02:38 PM EST
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e.d.m. (none / 0)

(this one is more with my heart than my head):

Kerry 342 EV, 51.1% PV
Bush  196 EV, 46.0% PV

Kerry wins the Gore states, plus AZ, OH, MO, NH, and (narrowly)WV.  Kerry also narrowly loses NC and VA.

Texeira's "Democratic Majority" arrives earlier than expected.

my web log.
by matty fred on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 04:45:40 PM EST

Re: 342 for Kerry (none / 0)

This is the number I came up with, too. I live in AZ and many people here are not happy with Bush. We'll see if they get out to vote.

One advantage to being out West is that I don't have to stay up too late to see votes counted. If I see some of those Eastern close ones like VA or OH get called blue then the champagne gets popped early. If I see TN or NC go blue then I can really start to party because it's gonna be landslide time.

by phalanges on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 06:58:01 PM EST
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Kerry wins 50%+ (none / 0)

Kerry + FL, OH, TN, NH, no losses from 2000

Kerry 322 (50.8%)
Bush 216  (48.7%)
Nader     <.2%

by monkey3203 on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 05:26:02 PM EST

A small nit: (none / 0)

Your 2004 Poll Watcher Electoral Vote map has a small mistake:
Wisconsin is shown with 11 blocks even though it should only have 10 (it had 11 Electoral votes until 2001).  The rollover popup correctly says 10 and the math is right.

My prediction:
Kerry easily wins the popular vote but the EV ends up tied at 269.  It goes to the House who of course select Bush but the outcry after he "steals" the second election in a row is so strong that the Electoral College is finally abandoned.

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 05:47:01 PM EST

Hail mary (none / 0)

Somehow I've got the feeling that Bush 43 will end up with 43% (poetic justice).

So, Kerry 55, Bush 43, others 2.

Where's the evidence that my feelings aren't as good a predictor as polls?

"Pay any price, bear any burden"
by JimPortlandOR on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 06:06:37 PM EST

Re: Hail mary (none / 0)

That's my dream finish too. Man it would be sweet. That would net at least 396 EV's, and possibly 436.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 08:45:55 PM EST
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he's a two termer (none / 0)

Kerry 48.9, Bush 48.4.
Badnarik will do better than Nader, but Nader will do better than Cobb.

Bush gets 275, Kerry 263 (Bush grabs one EV in Maine)

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 06:14:07 PM EST

Re: he's a two termer (none / 0)

No way.

Simple math:

Last election was a tie-so any loss of support (even if it's realatively minor, means Bush loses).

A few people who voted for Bush last time will vote for Kerry this time (large numbers of Arabs and small but significant numbers of Log Cabin Republicans, Moderate Republicans, Moderate Independents).

Almost nobody who voted for Gore last time will vote for Bush this time.

The Democratic GOTV machine is working overtime this time; plus Democrats are more motivated this time that last.

The Republicans will have a hard time getting moderate Republicans and Fiscal Conservatives to care enough to vote (plus some will vote Kerry, or Badnarik).

Nader is much less strong, with a significant amount of his former support going to Kerry and nearly none to Bush.

Add all that up, and I can't see Bush winning.  Whether it's a squeaker or a landslide is up in the air, but I think Kerry is going to win one way or the other.

by Geotpf on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 06:30:10 PM EST
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Re: he's a two termer (none / 0)

I hope you're right, but I think Bush will find some way to pull it out. Another smear on Kerry, or merely a strong anti-Kerry meme that gains traction, a la "Gore is an exaggerator" in 2000. (Come to think of it, that's basically the same one they're using on Kerry, and it's working)

I think the American public as a whole is smarter than the Bush campaign gives them credit for, but it only takes a few thousand easily manipulated voters here and there to buy into whatever fabrications Bush is selling, and put him over the top by small margins in the key states.

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 08:22:21 PM EST
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wet blanket (none / 0)

What about Diebold?  No polls matter if they count the votes.  And they're counting millions of the votes.
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 07:07:25 PM EST

Re: wet blanket (none / 0)

I actually don't think there will be massive organized voter fraud, of the "hack the voting machine" type.  It's possible, but unlikely.  More likely are your usual fear mongering to attempt minorities to not vote, etc.-but that's not much different than in years past.

If there is massive voter fraud (or other SUPREMELY dirty tricks, like actually faking a terrorist incident), then there is nothing we can do (other than win by such a landslide that that's impossible).

I think that if it ever comes out that this election was rigged, civil war will break out.  I hope the Republicans realize this too, and for the good of the country, make no attempts at such.  If the president wins re-election via frauduant means, his life expectancy will drop significantly.  I hope he realizes this.

by Geotpf on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 11:44:41 PM EST
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Re: wet blanket (none / 0)

Geoptf...I can agree with the sentiment BUT VERY CAREFUL making statements like your last two lines.  Secret Service has made a habit of interpreting statements like that differently than they are intended (usually purposefully) and with some of the current practices of the administration, you don't know what could happen.  Just don't use any words that even mistakenly construed as threats...I am experienced with these guys, they don't mess around and some take their jobs very seriously.  
by Anonymous Citizen on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 11:30:46 AM EST
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Re: wet blanket (none / 0)

Yeah I know, and I worried about the last two statements after I posted them.  I wouldn't be the one doing any of this.  I'm saying SOMEBODY out there would, unfortuantly.

by Geotpf on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 02:16:03 PM EST
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Kerry Wins! (none / 0)

BTW, Chris and Jerome, I believe a special MyDD t-shirt should be produced as a reward to the best prognosticator.

Kerry - 51.1%
Bush - 47.1%

In an election so close with differences so stark, few who show up will be willing to vote for a 3rd party/Ind candidate.

Kerry - 294 EVs (Gore + OH, NH, NV, WV)
Bush - 244

Kerry loses unexpectedly by razor thin margins in FL, VA, NC, AR, AZ, and TN.  

Bush will "win" Florida by fewer than 10,000 votes.  Voting irregularities in the state will be so widespread and egregious that multiple federal investigations will be launched, leading to several indictments and resignations.  Jeb Bush will not run for Pres. in 2008.  

by danielj on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 07:24:29 PM EST

North Carolina (none / 0)

I think the 327 Kerry to 211 Bush EV is probably on the money, but I'd add a long shot, Edwards's North Carolina (just as Clinton/Gore delivered Tennessee in 92 and 96).
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 08:35:12 PM EST

C'mon folks... (none / 0)

Kerry will win. As a Wisconsin resident everything I see and hear shows Kerry stronger here than Gore was in 2000. Kerry will carry Wisconsin.
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 08:49:51 PM EST

Re: C'mon folks... (none / 0)

I think he'll pull it out too, but he'll need to fight for it.

I don't see Kerry winning any of the big swing states though (OH, FL, MO) which kills him.

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 09:49:32 PM EST
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Re: C'mon folks... (none / 0)

Kerry still has a good chance to win if he loses OH, FL, AND MO.

Bush basically can't win (without supreme weirdness occuring) without winning at least two of them.

by Geotpf on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 10:19:09 AM EST
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Re: C'mon folks... (none / 0)

The way I figure, Kerry only needs to win one. Bush needs to sweep them. Problem is, I don't see Kerry winning any of the three.

This assumes, of course, that Kerry gets all of Gore's states plus NH.

How could he win without FL/OH/MO? I don't see AZ as a likely pickup. CO maybe. NV plugged into the Gore+NH scenario would only create a tie, which would be disastrous.

by Anonymous Citizen on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 03:02:40 PM EST
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Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

Kerry pulls it out in the end (maybe the debates help)--274 to 264.  He wins Ohio by one percent and loses Florida by one percent.

Wins NH but loses WI.

Kerry 48.8%
Bush 47.9%
Others 3.3%

Another tight one.

How bout some Congressional predictions?

Here's mine:

Senate--GOP +2 seats
House--Dems +1 seat

by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 09:18:35 PM EST

Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

I don't think Kerry would win OH and not WV. And vice versa.
by Anonymous Citizen on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 09:50:51 PM EST
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Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

Kerry: 51.4% 332 (Gore+NH+WV+OH+FL+MO+NV)
Bush:  46.2% 206
Nader:  0.7%
Others: 1.7%
Turnout: 57%

The election-eve polls show Bush and Kerry dead even, which significantly the urgency of GOTV efforts among panicking Dems.  But luckily for Dems as well--because GOP voters will also vote in droves--undecideds break 70-30 against Bush.    Turnout helps Dems significantly downballot as well.  Dems pick up Senate seats in IL, CO, OK and AK while only losing GA and SC.  Dems win the runoff in LA in December and the MA special election in Spring '05 for a 50-49 (51-49 with Jeffords) control of the Senate.  Unfortunately, the Freepers have a locked-in advantage with gerrymandered districts for us to have much of a chance of winning the House back, although there's I think a 25-30% chance this election could turn in the end into an anti-GOP incumbent Reaganesque election.  In which case, Kerry's popular vote totals could reach upwards of 53-54% and his EV totals could swell to nearly 400 as narrow states like VA, NC, TN, and AR in the South and AZ and CO in the West join the Kerry bandwagon.

by jsramek on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 09:48:26 PM EST

Decisive victory for Kerry, but no landslide (none / 0)

Wow, I've been so caught up in tracking the e.c. status on a daily basis that it's been a while since I actually thought about what I think the likely result in November will be.

In the end, my prediction is similar to Chris', except that I don't think Kerry will take Missouri (thus stopping Missouri's string as a bellweather state) and Nevada, but that he will get West Virginia.  

So, Kerry takes the Gore states plus FL, NH, OH, and WV for a total of 316 electoral votes to Bush's 222.

I don't really track the popular vote, so the most I can say about it is that Kerry will get more popular votes than Bush.  As I wrote here, I expect Kerry's victory to be decisive, but not a landslide.

unfutz
by Ed Fitzgerald on Mon Aug 30, 2004 at 10:19:37 PM EST

Is Bush the GOP's Carter? (none / 0)

I've been thinking along similar lines. The odds are against it, but "don't be surprised if" Bush loses in an electoral (though not a popular) landslide.

In some ways, this election reminds me of the Reagan v. Carter 1980 election. In both cases, the country is facing an embarrassing foreign crisis (the hostages in Carter's case, the Iraq quagmire in Bush's), and in both cases, the polls have consistently shown an almost evenly-divided electorate.

In 1980, Carter remained competitive until the very last minute, when it became obvious the hostages weren't coming home, at which point his support collapsed and he lost 50%-43%. Something similar could happen to Bush when it becomes clear to even the most out-of-touch voters that our soldiers aren't coming home from Iraq anytime soon.

The big difference between this election and 1980, though, is that Kerry is no Reagan. Reagan boldly pushed the GOP agenda during the 1980 campaign, while Kerry seemingly prefers Clintonian "triangulation." I hope that doesn't prove to be his undoing.

If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 02:35:12 PM EST
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Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

Kerry 269
Bush 269

Kerry wins PV by 1,200,000.  Bush appointed president by the house.  Rioting in several major urban areas amid allegations of rigged electronic voting machines in FL and OH.  

by Anonymous Citizen on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 12:51:30 AM EST

Not even close (none / 0)

396 to 142, basically anything and everything will break towards Kerry about two weeks after the (R) convention. When the CW shows that W is done, the unbdecideds will flock. Virginia and North Carolina will be close. Bush, needing to do more than speak somewhat grammatically this time, will flail in the debates ars Kerry is able to demonstrate how poor Bush's grasp of policy and reality is.
After the election  major restructuring of the Republican party is necessary as the demographicsof their fractions are dwindling. The republican moderate comes out of hibernation, and history has George W. Bush as the man in charge of a Republican party that controlled all three branches of government, the media, and because of 9-11 (which increasingly gets blamed on his incompetence) the overwhelming goodwill of the nation and the world, lost it all. 'Bushian' becomes a new word in the dictionary meaning roughly an uncanny ability to get everything exactly wrong and to leave disaster in your path.
A large national discussion ensues about the whether or not Kerry should pardon the many Bush administration figures that come to light when the records are available.
by Anonymous Citizen on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 09:49:33 AM EST

West Coast Predition (none / 0)


Kerry      52.0
Bush       47.0
Nader >   1.0
Other >   1.0

EV
wins Gore states
Kerry takes OH, Nevada
loses FL-

Theory

(1) An econmic slowdown has already begun and cannot be masked. Oil price increases will work their way into higher gas prices and home heating fuel prices by the Fall. In some pat of the country where home fuel prices are going to spike, the GOP will be as popular as a mild social disease. look for regional GOP losses at the state level.

(2) Bush has no cross over appeal. Gore voters are voting for Kerry. New voters are voting for Kerry. Nader is no loner important. Therefore Bush gets his same share as in 2000.

(2) The "there you again" moment is about to happen- but in reverse. Bush sis actually a good debater, because allot of people feel an affinity to his personaliy- but he has weaknesses and Kerry will exploit them. remember- gore was a bit of a political klutz, kerry is a pretty smoothe guy and has not lost the court room touch. the primaries may have sharpened him up a little too. Bush is a like an indoor cat- his skill s are their but dulled by splendid isolation.

Congress

Senate  Dems win contol, p/u net 3 seats
House Demans p/u net 7 seats-

Kerry has enough of a poular vote win to lev. moderate GOP house members into something of a governing coalition that will last about a year as GOP House members turn on their leadership.

by FortVancouverUSACalling on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 11:24:49 AM EST

The Debates (none / 0)

My sense is that Bush needs to be either tied or leading going into the debates.  I think he can play defense, or do okay in the "not as bad as I thought" expectations game, but he can't take it away from Kerry if he's trailing just by saying "we're turning the corner" or "our enemies hate freedom."  
by danielj on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 12:43:21 PM EST

Rough guess (none / 0)

Popular vote:

Kerry   49%
Bush    46%
Badnarik 2.5%
Nader    1.5%
Others   1%

Electoral College

Kerry  280
Bush   258

(Same as Chris except FL & OH, which I expect to be stolen - but to no avail)

Senate remains 51R-48D-1I. (Dems pick up IL, AK, CO but lose SC, GA, and one of NC, LA, or MA special election.)
Dems pickup 4 House seats, not enough to regain control

Outside chance of a Dem landslide, picking up the Senate in the bargain.

If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 02:52:30 PM EST

The Definitive Prediction (none / 0)

Kerry wins 306 to 232.  He carries the Gore states minus Wisconsin, and adds NH, FL, CO, TN. Kerry wins PA because Phildelphia comes through bigtime for him, but even smart, progressive Republicans in the western counties who think Bush is an illiterate dolt can't bring themselves to vote Dem, on cultural grounds. Stubborn Ohio mindlessly stays with Bush, loses more of its historical predictive luster. WV would have gone for Kerry, but since Bush's EPA is allowing Mountaintop Removal Mining, their pocketbooks drive them to W. In Florida, vigilant Democrats at every polling place prevent massive voter fraud, and succeed in getting out the Dem vote bigtime.  Nevada buys Kerry's line that he won't let Yucca Mountain go through, later to be disappointed that he can't deliver afterall.  Missouri just can't bring itself to buck W.  And Arkansas never really was close, though it was stimulating to think it might remember its surprisingly progressive heritage (Fulbright, et al.)...

PKinTexas

by Anonymous Citizen on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 04:05:43 PM EST

Kerry landslide (none / 0)

Kerry 52.8%  404EV
Bush 44.7%   134EV
Nader 0.8%
Badnarik 1.5%
Others 0.2%

Kerry wins New England, NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, OH, MI, FL, NC, SC, VA, WV, IL, IA, MO, TN, AR, WI, MN, HI, CA, OR, NV, NM, AZ, WA, CO

by SP on Tue Aug 31, 2004 at 05:43:21 PM EST

Bush probably wins. (none / 0)

It's all about Florida folks. Whoever wins there takes home the big prize. With Jeb as the Gov., his brother takes the white house.
by Anonymous Citizen on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 04:30:19 AM EST

Bush wins going away (none / 0)

Did anyone else watch his best speech ever at the RNC? I think he's going to get 58% of the popular vote in the end.
by Anonymous Citizen on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 04:33:25 AM EST

Electoral Tie (none / 0)

There is a strong possibility that the political race will end up in an electoral tie:

Kerry: 269
Bush:  269

I predict that the 2004 election be very similar to the 2000 election in a sense that most the electoral votes will end up the same.  

The only difference is that NV and NH will swing Kerry this election and thus will make the electoral vote tied.

Kerry has had a lead in the polls in New Hampshire over the last few months and will easily take it.  Nevada will be a close call this election and the polls have shown it.  It will be a close call all the way up to November but I think Kerry will take it.  

Critical States that Kerry must retain this election that are a close call are Pennsylvania and New Mexico.

If Kerry won Flordia or Colorado in this scenario, then the election would go to Kerry.

by SeaTac22 on Sun Sep 12, 2004 at 01:45:00 PM EST

BUSH LANDSLIDE (none / 0)

BUSH     53%  
KERRY    45%  
OTHERS    2%

bush does ok in the debates and the media   declares him the winner because he didn`t screw up.he gets a dukakis like win and takes minn , iowa, nh,wisc and pa. away from democrats.also congress becomes more republican and in 4 years we will be fighting in iran and maybe korea  along with iraq.since we will be in a perpetual war for now on the republicans stay in power until at least 2016.maybe it`s all a bad dream!

by EXBUSHVOTER on Sun Sep 12, 2004 at 08:51:04 PM EST

sorry (none / 0)

i meant kerry gets a dukakis like loss
by EXBUSHVOTER on Sun Sep 12, 2004 at 08:52:01 PM EST

sorry (none / 0)

i meant kerry gets a dukakis like loss
by EXBUSHVOTER on Sun Sep 12, 2004 at 08:52:02 PM EST

Re: sorry (none / 0)

heh, you had it right the first time (kind a got lost in those talking points, eh?)
by Jerome Armstrong on Sun Sep 12, 2004 at 09:05:11 PM EST
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Final Tally (none / 0)

My Prediction:

Popular Vote
Bush  49.4%
Kerry 48.6%
Others 2%

Electoral College
Bush 261
Kerry 277 (Kerry wins all Gore states but loses Wisconsin and wins Florida)

Result: Kerry wins w/majority Electoral Vote, loss in the Popular Vote

This will come after another year 2000-like disaster.  Computerized vote totals will be disputed across the country, causing mass chaos.  Kerry will be elected President with enough electoral college votes but Republicans - completely ignoring Bush's similar election 4 years ago - will complain Kerry "stole" the election.

by detclsw on Mon Sep 13, 2004 at 12:54:05 AM EST

cautiously optimistic - Kerry (none / 0)

I really have to ignore the polls - no one's called me...  absentee oversees ballot - not polled, black voters - not polled, 18-25 year olds not polled.

My prediction (hope) : undecideds won't be a factor,  the debates will tighten up the polls (because the media wants drama) and ultimately turnout will be significant - Blacks will turn out in force (usually democrats) and the 18-26 group (realizing the possibility of a draft, I think 26 being the cut off), will prove their lack of interest enlisting and vote against Bush.
they are the neglected demographic.  In the end I'm guessing

Kerry 50%
Bush 49%

but it will be contested so it won't be final until December.

by robbuck on Mon Sep 13, 2004 at 12:07:08 PM EST

it'll be a squeaker (none / 0)

Kerry 49.5%
Bush 47%
Nader 3.5%

Kerry will win all the Gore states minus FL, and he will add NH and CO. EV will be 273-265. Kerry will lose by paper thin margins in OH,FL,VA,NV,AK,MO,TN,WV and AZ.

by post it on Sun Sep 19, 2004 at 07:20:04 PM EST

Re: Predict the Presidential Election (none / 0)

Kerry will win the election, but it will very close.
             EV
Kerry 51%    291
Bush  49%    247  

Kerry will win all the states which Gore won in 2000 with the exception of WI. He will win NH by 5%, win IA by 2%, win FL by 3% and win NV by 2%.  He will Ohio by 2%, Virginia by 3%, Wisconsin by 1%, Missouri by 6% and Arizona by 5%.

by ronaltman on Sat Sep 25, 2004 at 10:32:50 AM EST


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