New Mexico, 2004 & the Libertarian vote

If it goes according to plan, don't expect to see George Bush in New Mexico late this campaign season. This, week, Badnarik goes up with TV and radio ads (produced by Russo) throughout the state, here's one of them:
Script of "Message for Conservatives" (Radio)
President Bush got elected by claiming to be a compassionate conservative. Would a conservative approve a half a trillion dollars in deficit spending in a single year? Would a conservative give us "Hillary Cares" socialized medicine, something even Bill Clinton couldn't do? Would a conservative approve of searching our homes without warrants or locking up American citizens indefinitely without even filing any charges? If you're fed up with electing Republicans who claim to be conservative and then govern like liberal Democrats, you do have an alternative. Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate for president.
Libertarian Badnarik polled 5% in New Mexico in an August poll done by Rasmussen:
Rasmussen Reports finds John Kerry with a 7-point lead over George W. Bush among New Mexico voters. Our first Election 2004 survey in the state shows Kerry with 50% of the vote, Bush with 43%, and Libertarian Michael Badnarik with 5%. Ralph Nader is not on the ballot in New Mexico.
Badnarik is probably on more of the ballots in battleground states than is Nader, but when will we see Gallup poll reality?



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New Mexico (none / 0)

New Mexico has significantly eased their felony disenfranchisement laws since the 2000 elections as well. Don't expect it to be one of the teb closest states this time around.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 10:08:10 AM EST

New Mexico, Badnarik, and Voting (none / 0)

A Few Things:
  1. Why is it that because NM (and other states) have relaxed their felon-voting laws that suddenly it will produce a lot of Democratic votes? While it makes sense that given that most felons are blue-collar and probably predisposed to voting Democratic, I can't imagine there are ALOT of votes out there. Also I can't imagine any candidate making a concerted effort to attract felons to the polls. What a way to scare off the masses if a story like that broke.
  2. 2000 was close but it should not have been. I don't expect NM to be close in 2004 - Kerry should win comfortably. It seems to be a common thread that Bush has done worse in states around the country, especially those that he lost in 2000. It has been a belief of mine for some time that Pres. Bush will have a harder time winning the popular vote than the electoral vote.
  3. As for Badnarik specifically, since Nader will not be on the ballot in NM this year, Badnarik will likely receive almost 1% bounce from that, simply by being the next visible anti-establishment candidate. Badnarik seems to be more organized this year than previous Libertarian candidate so we'll see. There is a good chance that Badnarik may do better than Nader in aggregate vote totals across the country. Most of the people who have voted for Nader in 2000 have lined up behind Kerry or Bush this time. Plus Nader has simply flamed out as a candidate. Much like Buchanan did four years ago after having decent showings as a Republican in 1992 & 1996.

by southerndemnut on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 11:19:26 AM EST

Re: New Mexico, 2004 & the Libertarian vote (none / 0)

THANK YOU! We need to play up Badnarik to counteract Nader. Let's get Kos, politicalwire, and mydd, and then maybe we can get him into the mainstream press.
by Anonymous Citizen on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 12:16:40 PM EST

Re: New Mexico, 2004 & the Libertarian vote (none / 0)

Should we Dems be giving money to Badnarik, just as GOP donors are funding Nader efforts?
by Anonymous Citizen on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 03:04:12 PM EST

4 Party System (none / 0)

Anyone know in how many states Badnarik is on the ballot?  Back in the spring just before the Libertarian party convention, I saw a segment on Bill Moyers' Now (GO BILL!!!! HE HAS BEEN KICKING ASS ALL YEAR!) with a prominant Libertarian/Republican Representative from Texas.  While I'm no libertarian, I was intrigued by the idea of a 'Nader' on the right, potentially taking 1-5% of Bush's vote.  I'm not surprised by the total lack of media coverage of Badnarik, but I have been surprised that it hasn't been covered in the blogosphere as well (at least not on my usual destinations).  This New Mexico post is encouraging.
by Anonymous Citizen on Wed Aug 11, 2004 at 07:28:08 PM EST

Wisconsin (none / 0)

Badnarik will likely have an impact in Wisconsin as well.  There was a strong Libertarian campaign for governor here in 2002.  I see Badnarik more than canceling out the Nader factor in WI, making it easier for Kerry to defend his narrow lead.
by Anonymous Citizen on Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 12:33:27 AM EST

Libertarians do not just take Republican votes (none / 0)

The conventional wisdom that the Libertarian votes only come from Republican voters is wrong.  Libertarians pull equally from both parties.  That Rasmussen poll proves this.  Quote from the poll:

"Twenty-three percent (23%) of Republicans and 25% of Democrats say there are circumstances under which they would consider voting for Badnarik. After learning that Badnarik says he would stop the War in Iraq and the Drug War, just 13% of Republicans say there is still a possibility they would vote for the Libertarian. With that same information, 28% of Democrats would consider a vote for Badnarik and 43% of unaffiliated voters would do the same."

Other than the fact he is running anti-Bush ads, this isn't particularily good news.  The only major "Nader" on the Republican side is Peroutka, of the Constitutional Party.

by Anonymous Citizen on Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 06:00:53 PM EST

Libertarians in Wisconsin (none / 0)

The gubernatorial candidate was Ed Thompson, the brother of former Badger State governor Tommy Thompson.

It looks like Mike Badnarik is also going to campaign in New Hampshire pretty hard.  It seems like a good fit, seeing that New Hampshire is the free state (http://www.freestateproject.org)

The radio ad in New Mexico is pretty cool and should play well with conservatives (like me) who feel betrayed by Bush.  Heck, I left the Republican party because I'm sick of him.

by Anonymous Citizen on Fri Aug 13, 2004 at 10:56:43 AM EST

LP / Badnarik - Arkansas (none / 0)

Badnarik / LP should be "officialized" to be on the Arkansas Nov 04 ballot in a day or two - "his" signatures were turned in Friday in Little Rock and official word will be out from the SOS in the next couple days.   Bill
by Anonymous Citizen on Sun Aug 15, 2004 at 03:28:00 PM EST


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