Eureka! Or How To Break the Republican Majority Coalition

This is the companion ideological piece to the organization / activism piece I wrote two weeks ago, Ding!.

I believe it is possible to break the majority Republican coalition, which is primarily an ideological coalition of conservatives against liberals, and create a majority Democratic coalition that will last for at least two or three decades, by liberalizing / progressivizing the 10-15% of the population that is currently primarily reform minded and non-ideological (and thus has a strong tendency to support major third-party efforts). While it is currently non-ideological, this segment of the population, which has existed in large numbers since at least the 1880's, has an outlook on politics that is far more closely allied with liberalism than conservatism because of its emphasis on reform. It is, to put it one way, latently liberal. This segment of the electorate can be swung toward the liberal camp, thus breaking the Republican majority coalition, if the pragmatic, non-dogmatic, reformer, anti-status quo, entrepreneurial aspects of liberalism are foregrounded and turned into a national narrative and platform. Pulling this off will also require dismantling the Great Backlash narrative of oppressive liberal elites, and replacing it with a narrative about conservatism being a force that relies on pure theory, faith-based worldviews, and that supports status-quo institutions such as corporations and the media.

Currently, the significant majority (60-70%) of the non-ideological "reformer" segment of the population, which has a tendency to vote in blocks, is allied with the Republican coalition. In fact, it was this addition to the Republican coalition that led to their 1994 sweep to power, and it remains the aspect of the Republican coalition that gives them their national slim majority (50-52% of the electorate). Primarily, this alliance is a result of the Great Backlash narrative, which identifies liberalism as an oppressive, status quo force in control of academia, the media, the entertainment industry, and the judiciary. However, unlike the conservative and evangelic / born again segments of the coalition that allies itself against liberalism on ideological grounds, the non-ideological element allies itself against liberalism not because of what liberalism stands for, but because liberals are viewed as powerful, anti-reform "insiders." It opposes liberalism not because of left / center / right reasons, but because of insider / outsider reasons. Best of all, because liberalism is a reformer ideology, liberals have the potential to swing this group more or less permanently, which is something that conservatism have never been able to do.

In other words, we win, both short term and long term, with a reformer platform and a national narrative that pits liberalism as a reformer ideology against a status-quo conservative ideology. This is how we grow liberalism and finally push the liberal electoral coalition first postulated by the McGovern campaign into power. Obviously, this is a big thesis. I will try to explain it after the jump.

This idea occurred to me as I was shifting through the blogosphere and election stats late Saturday night, which is my normal late-night routine. Past three a.m., four a.m., five a.m., I could not get past the enormous similarities I found in the following seven maps of failed, third-party electoral coalitions (my source is the world-class Dave Leip):

1912 Socialist

1912 Progressive

1924 Progressive

1948 Progressive

1980 Independent

1992 Reform

1996 Reform

Take a while to look at these seven maps, as all seven show the same pattern. Specifically, these significant third party campaigns found their strength in the Western, Midwestern and Northeastern parts of the country, but were extremely weak in the South. Except for the regional, segregationist third-party movements of 1948-1968, the South is where third-party movements go to die. By contrast, from Perot to Wallace to Anderson to Debs to Roosevelt, the Northeast, and especially the Midwest and West, offer tremendous support to third-party movements. Considering the ideological diversity of these third-party movements, there seems to be a large group of voters living mostly outside of the South who base their vote primarily on change and reform, regardless of the ideology pushing that reform.

While this group of voters would seem like a natural ally of liberals, since voting for change and reform is a liberal act, unfortunately right now the reformers are voting Republican. Granted, there is nothing fixed about this, especially since the MO of the block, voting for change, is inherently liberal, and they can be brought back. Further, because the reformers can be swung, this group also holds the balance of power between the two coalitions. For example, in 2000, Gore only received 27% of the 1996 Perot vote, according to exit polls. In the 1984 and 1988 elections, I have little doubt where the majority of the1980 Anderson vote went. If Gore has received an equal share of the Perot vote in 2000, the election would have been a blowout in Gore's favor. If Dukakis has managed to acquire an equal share of the Anderson vote, 1988 would have been a toss-up. The 50-52% national Republican majority exists primarily because Republicans and conservatives have managed to bring the majority of the non-ideological reform-minded voters into their coalition. Aptly, the reformers hold the key to change this situation.

I believe that the liberal / Democratic failure among the non-ideological reformers is a direct result of the Great Backlash narrative insightfully described by Thomas Frank in What's the Matter with Kansas (read our recent discussion of the book). In the current, dominant political narrative, liberals are understood to be status-quo "elites" controlling the levers of power of important institutions such as academia, the judiciary, the media and the entertainment industry, and thus a vote against these liberal insiders is generally perceived as, well, the reformer and liberal thing to do. Non-ideological reformers, who are latent liberals, vote for change in these institutions and for the individual struggling against these institutions, as a reformer and a liberal would be expected to do. They vote to throw the bums out of these anti-Democratic institutions by voting outsiders (conservatives are the outsiders, according to the current dominant narrative) into offices that have control over these institutions. This is what we must fix and reverse in order to regain power.

In addition to the maps above, my evidence for the existence of this group of voters comes from the wide gap between Kerry's performance among self-identifying moderates in states with strong support for third-parties when compared to Kerry's performance among self-identifying moderates in states with weak support for third parties. In order to demonstrate this, I have constructed a metric I refer to as the "non-partisan index." The non-partisan index shows the average percentage by which state is willing to vote for a third party-candidate in relation to the rest of the nation. For example, if the national third-party popular vote is 10.0% in a given election, and a state gives 15.0% of its votes to third-party candidates in that election, then that state would have a non-partisan index of +5.0. At the same time, if the national third-party popular vote was 10.0% in a given election, and a state only gave 5.0% of its votes to third party candidates in that election, then the non-partisan index for that state would be -5.0.

With this in mind, compare Kerry's performance among moderates with the non-partisan index in these two groups of conservative states. In these tables, "Liberal IM" equals the liberal margin over conservatives in a given state according to 2004 exit polls, "Moderate VM" equals Kerry overall margin in a state among self-identified moderates according to exit polls, and Non-Partisan Index equals the average non-partisan index for the state in the 1980, 1992 and 1996 elections:

Group One: States With Strong Third-Party Support
   Liberal IM  Moderate VM  Non-Partisan Index
AK   -20		  -18		 +9.2
ID   -22		  -31		 +4.7
KS   -24		   -9		 +2.7
WY   -24		  -22		 +3.7
In the highly conservative states listed above, all which have strong inclinations toward third parties, Kerry was crushed among moderates. However....
Group Two: States With Weak Third Party Support
  Liberal IM  Moderate VM  Non-Partisan Index
KY  -24 		  -1	       -3.6
LA  -23 		  -4	       -4.0
NC  -23 		  +1	       -4.4
SC  -24 		  +1	       -5.7
VA  -21 		 +15	       -3.0
In these states, all of which have very weak support for third parties, Kerry either pulled even or won among moderates. Overall, the nine states in these two tables all have nearly identical gaps between self-identifying liberals and self-identifying conservatives. The difference between the two groups of states when it comes to the overall vote, which is vast, is that they are dominated by two very different groups of moderates. On the one hand, the states with weak support for third parties are dominated by ideological moderates, among whom Kerry did very well nationwide and which the Democratic Party does a much better job of appealing to and representing than does the Republican Party. On the other hand, Kerry did poorly among moderates in states with strong support for third-parties--that is, states dominated by reformer, non-ideological moderates. This is because in our current coalitions, as a result of the Great Backlash Narrative, non-ideological reformer moderates are breaking Republican in large numbers while ideological moderates are breaking Democrat in almost equally large numbers.

This pattern can be found across the nation. Generally speaking, the higher the support for third-party candidates in a given state, then the worse Kerry probably did among self-identified moderates in that state. By contrast, the less a state supports third party candidates, than the better Kerry probably did among moderates. Just look at the comparison between other states with similar ideological margins:

   Liberal IM  Moderate VM  Non-Partisan Index
CT    +2		   +9		+3.3
NY    +2		  +20		-0.7
With identical ideological margins, New York moderates love Kerry, but do not like third parties, while Connecticut moderates kind of like Kerry, but love third parties. The situation is similar in these two states:
   Liberal IM  Moderate VM  Non-Partisan Index
NE    -28		  -16		+2.0
TX    -29		   +3		-1.6
Nebraskan reformer moderates, who love third parties, hated Kerry. Texas ideological moderates, who liked Kerry, do not like third-parties. These are not the only examples, but for now they will do.

In our current coalition, we have almost all of the liberals, and we have most of the ideological moderates. To complete a majority coalition, we need the reformers. I believe that "moderates" who are concerned with reform and supportive of third-party movements are streaming toward the Republican Party in order to strike a blow against the insider "elites" in charge of unpopular institutions: the media, academia, the judiciary and the entertainment industry. In do doing, they are performing a liberal act while allying with a conservative party. By positioning liberalism as a reformist ideology permanently struggling against elites--which it is--we could bring a large segment of the non-ideological "moderate" population back into the liberal camp on a semi-permanent basis. This would allow us to break the Republican majority coalition which is currently run by the nation's 34% conservative minority, and regain the reigns of power for the next generation.

Right now, Republicans control somewhere between 60-70% of the non-ideological reformer vote, and between 51-52% of the national vote. The average third party vote in 1980, 1992 and 1996 was 12.6%. Bringing the majority of the 10-15% of the electorate that falls into the non-ideological / reformer category into the Democratic coalition would almost precisely flip the exiting balance of power between the two coalitions, as it would give Democrats a 51-52% national majority coalition. In the immediate short-term, this means to me that Dean absolutely must become the spokesmen of the Democratic Party. No one else up for the job even remotely approaches his reformer / outside cred nationally, not even Simon Rosenberg. Bringing the reformer segment of the electorate into the Democratic / liberal camp is even more important than increasing our share of the growing Latino vote, which is undeniably important.

Our future success is not predicated upon moving to the left or the right, but rather in our ability to move from the inside to the outside in the national political frame. This is something we succeeded in doing in the past. This is something that Republicans learned immediately following the Perot movement of 1992, and executed so brilliantly in their 1994 "Contract with America," campaign. The Contract With America was filled almost entirely with reformist, rather than conservative, legislative proposals. Conservatives won, and are currently in power, because they swung the reformer vote their way, even though our coalition is a more natural fit for such voters. We can change this and set things right. Howard Dean as DNC chair is a darn good place to start.


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Analysis missing the most crucial element (2.00 / 1)

The CIA and other "intelligence community" agencies have been interviening into US politics since the end of WWII.

There is a long string of connected events, from the insanity of the McCarthy era, to the cold war arms race, to the Kennedy assination, to WaterGate, Iran Contra, Iraq I/II, and 9/11.

And what do you know? The same cliqe of democracy and life disrespecting thugs, out for personal gain and for more power and money than any normal human being can comprehend are behind all of these events.

It does not matter what ideology, stratagy, candidate, or campaign narrative the Democrats adopt when the GOP, aided by cia-da steals elections and the US media is nothing more than an accessory to the crime, before and after the fact.

Most people used to believe that intelligence community interventions into US elections and politics were the exception. Not any longer. They have been getting away with it for so long and with so many successes that its become a full time program.

by leschwartz on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 02:18:36 AM EST

Re: Analysis missing the most crucial element (none / 0)

What do you base this upon? I'm willing to hear you out, but I want more than just the accusation. For example, there is a  line of narrative that had Capital Cities being a CIA front (which group bought ABC for a time.) Sumner Redstone, of Viacom, has a background in military intel. I'd like to hear if there are more nefarious connections.
by spectator consumer on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:23:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Thank you... (3.00 / 1)

The entire time I was reading I was thinking, "how do you create that reform message with an ENTIRE already existing political party?  Not just one man at the head of that party."

Then you address it in the final paragraph -- with the perfect example -- The Contact With America.  

Minus broken contacts, even currently we witness Republicans positioning themselves as the party of reform.

IRS/Tax Code Reform -- Tort Reform -- Social Security Reform.  It's a constant refrain, and one that Americans seem willing to accept as part of a mandate.  Which is another reason we will eventually lose the Social Security battle, despite the fact we can't afford it right now.  

For our sake, I think reform starts with a message of government transparency & inclusion in the process through decentralization.  Yes, I know... It's the flavor of the month.  But I am sold, regardless of what month it is.

Whatever the case, this was the "money shot" for me.  

Our future success is not predicated upon moving to the left or the right, but rather in our ability to move from the inside to the outside in the national political frame.

I would be interested in seeing your non-partisan index broken down for age groups instead of states.  This might be the variable that has the largest implications for the future -- and I think it would butress your argument about a reform message being the best way to build a sizable majority for the extended future.

4 A.M. I bet this post is the most garbled POS I have ever written.

Before I read the post again with a clear head and comment later, I have two questions for you, Chris.

1.) How are you able to recall posts like RonK's from so long ago?  It was a superior find.

2.) What is the book he is talking about at the end of his post?

Thanks,

Tim

by Tim Tagaris on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 05:07:51 AM EST

Re: Thank you... (none / 0)

I don't agree that Dean was a creation of "Caddell's model".  We've had this tradition within the Democratic Party since Jackson, of empowering those outside the political circle to get them inside the circle. Dean himself was transformed into this movement, he's too authentic to have been coached into playing a script. Besides, Trippi didn't even come into the campaign until Dec-Jan of 2002/2003, long after Dean became pissed off at seeing the Republican's drag this country into war, and the Democratic leadership go along with the action. It's a interesting yarn by RonK, but that's all. I talked with Dean in June of 2002, and the Candidate had already arrived, he was just waiting for Trippi and us to make the means to bring him into circle.
by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:13:16 AM EST
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Re: Thank you... (none / 0)

The Governor might not have been cast into the role, but he played the part. I would really like to read about "candidate c" in more depth -- After 15 minutes of googling "candidate c," "senator smith," and all kinds of variations with Pat Caddell -- I got nothing. That's why I asked what the book was RonK talking abut. And I would still like to know =) Tim
by Tim Tagaris on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 02:26:42 PM EST
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Damn HTML Format... (none / 0)

I have to remember to switch back -- I always forget. The Governor might not have been cast into the role, but he played the part. I would really like to read about "candidate c" in more depth. After 15 minutes of googling "candidate c," "senator smith," and all kinds of variations with Pat Caddell -- I got nothing. That's why I asked what the book was RonK talking abut. And I would still like to know =) Tim
by Tim Tagaris on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 02:37:06 PM EST
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The Importance of the Reform Image (none / 0)

A great, great post.  Interestingly, your ideas are very similar to a guy who I think is one of the smarter political analysts around-Kevin Phillips.  Phillips wrote an excellent book in the late '60s, The Emerging Republican Majority, which forecast the South and the "Sun Belt" moving to the Republicans, giving them a governing majority.

In a largely overlooked article in the Nation Magazine, last summer Phillips recommended that Kerry campaign as a "reformer" as you suggest, particularly targeting the Perot voters.  Phillips noted that the issue stands of many of these voters-concern with globalization, anti-deficit, in favor of campaign finance reform-are closer to the Democratic Party then to the Republicans.  Unfortunately, Kerry did not follow this advice at all.  

Issues that attract these voters suggest themselves: "political reform" regarding lobbying, voting (especially leaving a paper trail) and money; "trade reform" such as reforming global trade rules so that there is not just a race to the bottom regarding wages, working conditions and protecting the environment; and deficit reduction through raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans.

Anyway, of all the post mortem election articles Ive read, and I read about 1000 of them, this is one of the best.  

Andy Katz
by Andy Katz on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 07:14:35 AM EST

Re: The Importance of the Reform Image (none / 0)

TEDM has a bit following p. 32 that describes how the emergence of 3rd Party movements "usually foreshadowed a partisan realignment; after one election, most of their supporters settle back into one of the two parties."

part of the problem here is that we've had two over-lapping 3rd party movements, and they've both folded back into their respective parties, and no realignment has occurred, the Republicans remain in power by becoming excellent at squeezing even more from their base-- the south, evangelicals, and the "9/11 changed everything" crowd. Without DeLays actions in Texas, Democrats would have gained seats in the House; the GOP Senate gains were all  in Southern states; and Bush won by 2-3% of the national vote, with a slim EV majority.

I do agree with Bowers placing Reform on the mantle. There is no way in hell that the Democratic Party can go with another DC Rep or Senator in 2008-- Russ Feingold is probably the only one there who could be a reformer. Hopefully, the Republican Party will nominate Frist, I think they will, so that we can exploit the issue.  And that's one reason why you see Frist and Allen figuring out how to get out of DC before the election; and why you se Giuliani avoiding the place. Frist as a VP would not help him in the least.

Dean was the Democratic Reform candidate, he was the one who could have won. We cannot settle for anyone else besides Dean as the DNC Chair.

by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:57:24 AM EST
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Re: The Importance of the Reform Image (none / 0)

Here's what Kevin Phillips said, from "How Kerry Can Win," The Nation, August 2 2004:

". . . the Democrats of 2004 would find it particularly worthwhile--to focus on the GOP's "unbase." This, in essence, is the 20-25 percent of the party electorate that has been won at various points by three national anti-Bush primary and general election candidates with Republican origins: Ross Perot (1992), John McCain (2000) and, in a lesser vein, Patrick Buchanan (1992). Most of the shared Perot-McCain issues:

*    Campaign and election reform,
*    Opposition to the religious right,
*    Distaste for Washington lobbyists,
*    Opposition to upper-bracket tax biases            
        and runaway deficits,
*    Criticism of corporations and CEOs

are salient today and more compatible with the mainstream moderate reformist Democratic viewpoint than with the lobbyist-driven Bush Administration. Perot and Buchanan's economic nationalism (anti-outsourcing, anti-NAFTA) and criticism of Iraq policy under the two Bushes is also shared by many Democrats.

Taking things somewhat further, these members of the "unbase" of the Republican presidential coalition ought to be the Democrats' key target because (1) they have some degree of skepticism about Bush and (2) they are the segment of the GOP coalition most logically open to recruitment for a progressive realignment, short-term or otherwise. That is the way small or large realignments work: by wooing the most empathetic part of the current coalition."

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040802&s=phillips

by tgeraghty on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 05:30:01 PM EST
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How to make Economic Populism real in this era (3.00 / 1)

Well, the issues are differen than in the 1890s or the 1930's but the theme remains.  Now it's about JOBS.  What job will be there for me or my children in the future?  It's about the hollowing out of America.

John Kerry had a good slogan: "Benedict Arnold corporations".  He had to stop using it because there was nothing behind it.  As soon as he was questioned by anyone, his pro-Free Trade ideology would not allow him to come up with anything concrete except cutting tax breaks for offshorers, something that was in the right direction, but far short of an effective answer.

We need an answer to this.  Something real to stop offshoring.  How about not handing out government contracts to firms that offshore?  And be ready to take the hit about "raising the cost of government" with "jobs are more important" and move on.  We have to change the perception that there's nothing that can be done about this.  If the Dems could do this, they would again be perceived as really fighting for the little guy (who, by the way, is now both white-collar and blue-collar).  Then you begin to make a dent in the great backlash culture.  You can't do it with economics off the table.

by sTiVo on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 07:17:42 AM EST

Re: How to make Economic Populism real in this era (none / 0)

My post above forgot to tie in to the reform movements that are the topic here.  To do that, let's not forget H. Ross Perot's "Giant Sucking Sound."  Can we not hear that today?
by sTiVo on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 07:19:48 AM EST
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Exporting America (none / 0)

Lou Dobbs has been running a very popular nightly feature called "Exporting America". We don't need a new slogan. We just need one stinking Democrat who is willing to take a stand and can put a coherent sentence together.

Health Care for All and raising the minimum wage as a part of Jobs With Justice are all the economic populism we need. This isn't brain science. It doesn't have to be complicated.

  1. Health Care for All
  2. Raise the minimum wage

by Gary Boatwright on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 09:44:00 AM EST
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Re: This isn't brain science. (none / 0)

And it's not rocket surgery, either ;-)
If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 05:40:51 PM EST
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Alright good work, but I can add the missing piece (none / 0)

Or as that epic song by tool .. "I know the pieces fit"

You've done a great job with demographics. Thats
one of the reasons I truly enjoy reading you.
I happen to come from a math background
(I don't really have a brain for math, but
after Adv. calculus in Grad school, and
two years of graduate research I finally
figured out how to trick ye olde grey
matter into a semblance of accuracy..
so I have a tendency to say 'I come
from a math background' even though
my PhD is still out there unfinished..
I +will+ finish it.. I +will+ finish it!)

Alright.

Here's what you need.

  1. You got demographics.
  2. You correctly identified 3rd party trending.
  3. Your causality on this trending is excellent.
(anti-corporatism, anti-status quo, etc.)

Here's your mistake: you don't love your
enemy enough. (in other words, it ain't
just insider vs. outsider..)

"conservatism being a force that relies on pure theory, faith-based worldviews, and that supports status-quo institutions such as corporations and the media."

Wrong-o.

Look around you. Libertarianism is driving conservatism, and its not just a force that
relies on pure theory.

Its a force that relies on breaking the backs
of people who can vote against their own
self interest, purely because it feels right.

Look around. The Internet is a purely
libertarian space, and its defining and
shaping their lives far more rapidly and
completely than government ever will be.

This is not to say its technocratic.
Its not. Its a sort of desperately needed
social tribalism that values us, instead
of turning on the damn evening news.

I live in Georgia. We are now almost
the new texas. Third parties come here
to die not because conservatism is
'faith based' or a 'force that relies
on pure theory' that defeats it every
time (that analysis could only be borne
from a place where conservatism itself
is a theory - conservatism is much deeper
in the south, and much more accepted.).

No.

Third parties die here because
there is nowhere on this planet that
wishes federalism would die.

It ain't liberal.

It's libertarian.
Add that into the equation and now
what do you get.

1. A confederacy desperate for things like
tort reform, economic independence,
competitive agribusiness - red states
ready to go deep.

2. An energized base in the states where
your trendlines line up - California
isn't looking for something new, they're
looking for something that +works+.

3. A true attack on the money-wasting, money-
laundering lobbies that clog down the process.

And finally. Disintermediation.
This is a force that goes beyond words.

We are participating, casting our voice
into the cosmic fugue. Newt Gingrich
said "the internet is basically republican"

Don't discount his words! His ideas have
driven that party to victory. What
he's doing is laying claim not
to theory - but the raw force of history -
which is driving us back to American,
Libertarian roots.

Go to Williamsburg before you finish this
piece, walk into the courthouse and just
listen to the clerk of court go on his riff.
It takes about 30 minutes. But it will
reaally open your eyes.

  1. Conservation.
  2. Freedom
  3. Equality
  4. Anti-corporatism, anti-status quo
  5. Disintermediation
  6. Victory.

by turnerbroadcasting on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 09:46:26 AM EST

The challenge of "the narrative" (none / 0)

Excellent new Safire column on the question of Democrats and their (lack of) 'narrative':

http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/12/05/features/saf6.html

by mcdonald928 on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 09:51:28 AM EST

Possible logical fallacy (none / 0)

1."and create a majority Democratic coalition that will last for at least two or three decades, by liberalizing / progressivizing the 10-15% of the population that is currently primarily reform minded and non-ideological"

2. "especially since the MO of the block, voting for change, is inherently liberal, and they can be brought back."

I do not find it consistent to count on the support of this block for "at least two or three decades" when the voting behavior of this block is "voting for change".

According to your logic, they would never settle for the status quo for that long.

It's just not safe to rely on this block.

After a party settles into the majority for an extended period, and many times even in spite of a prolonged period of power, there will always a candidate that will draw them away from the status quo (Buchanan bloodied Bush in '92, the "Nader Effect" in 2000) are more recent examples.

by kitsae on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 09:57:17 AM EST

Remember 1994? 2006? (none / 0)

We - the New Democratic Party - need to study what Newt Gingrich and company did to seize control of congress in 1994.

There will inevitably be a strong anti-incumbancy mood in our nation in 2006.

It is imperative that:

  1. Every Congressional seat - EVERY SEAT - must be agressively contested
  2. A new, inclusive Democratic message is crafted and repeated
  3. We run AGAINST incumbancy and Washington politics in general, and Bush specifically

Could we get a way with managing our check books the way the Republican controlled government has managaged our national treasury?
by Patrick Thompson on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:16:09 AM EST

Question (none / 0)

I'm trying to understand this. I agree that moving left or right won't help, that we have to think outside the box, come up with a clear vision going back to first principles of what our values are.

What it sounds like you're arguing, though, is that we just need to inject some populism into our positions and rhetoric. Something like rise up against corporate abuse of power and religious oppression. That populism is what third-party campaigns do. I think conservatives have become just as good at it as liberals, though only recently. We tend to associate populism with liberalism, but I'm not sure we're really better at it any more. We would have to be a lot more credible in our defense of "the little guy", a characteristic we used to have but have lost.

I agree that that's part of the solution, but it seems like we need to do a lot more than that in order to have staying power. The charge of elitism rings true because we have made interest group politics such a central part of our platform. We'll have to unload some baggage before we can get off the ground in a sustainable way.

by pdt on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:26:33 AM EST

Re: Question (none / 0)

I think our weakness lies in our lack of masterty of reductionism.

The Republican ideology is easily reducible into the issues they promote (gays, guns, God, taxes...)

However, the irony is that the Republican ideology (conservatism), based largely upon texts such as "Anarchy, State, and Utopia" by Robert Nozick, is oftentimes not consistent with many of the aforementioned issues.

However, perception is key here, and the reductionism they use has one crucial, important characteristic:  simplicity.

The Republican message is summed up on such a concise manner that it resonates with the middle american persona (which, consequently, is generally less educated than the "liberal elite" -and pointing this out contributes to their "elite-ness".)

The Republican message?  Its reduced to: smaller government, less taxes, individualism, ownership society, compassionate conservatism, fiscal responsibility, etc..

The Democrat message?  Well, I'm sure we have one, but it's not as easily reducible as the Republican message.

It's like Carville said, we have a litany (a long list) of issues we care about but no narrative, or concise message.

It's killing us, killing our candidates, and ultimately losing elections for us.

We need to link our issues with a message, like the Republicans.

Example:

We want to cut your taxes taxes (issue) because us Republicans trust individuals to spend their own money, not the government (their message of "individualism.)

or

Social security is in dire need of reform, and private investment accounts (issue) is the solution because it trusts you to decide what you do with your money (message: individualism) and promotes an ownership society (also in line with message.)

Democrats have mastered issue-promotion, but we really need to link it with an overall message.  That way, the electorate perceives that we have an message-based ideology and thus promotes an overall consistency of message (i.e. no more flip-flopper charges!!!!)

by kitsae on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:53:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Take back the Underdog Message (none / 0)

Long-term our problems start and end with control of the media. I know it's a total cliche these days, everyone is a latter day Marshall McLuhan, but there is a reason you hear this so much. Ironically, the chief proponent of the biased media IS the GOP. Now that they are undeniably in power, we need to use their own message against them.

The GOP created the meme, they've planted the seed in the heads of every billy-bob across this country, it's really ours to seize. The first tactic has to be getting the party on message. And what's the message? We're the OUTSIDERS. We're the party of the disadvantaged. The middle class, the minorities, females, children...we're the party of the working stiff. We just can't have these Clintonistas going on TV every night of the week pushing a pro-business message. I like Rahm Emmanuel for example, but he comes off as the castrated liberal elite stereotype. And he's hardly alone. Reid, our current leader in the Senate is likewise the picture of rich, feminine, and basically a characture of what Limbaugh paints.

We need all our people on a single page, and it has to be the language of the underdog. We need to mock Fox News when they suggest liberal bias. We need to remind everyone that the GOP is responsible for all that's happening.

As little face time as  Dems get these days, considering the uphill battle we face getting a fair shake, we have to make sure our people are using the same play book.

by spectator consumer on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:44:03 AM EST

No offense but... (none / 0)

I think these points are obvious to those of us who make up the non-ideological, reformer spectrum of the electorate...

Your points are well made, though, and I believe it was the inability of Howard Dean's campaign to recognize this reality was a large part of his defeat...

By mindlessly "exciting the base" it completely left out the real strength of Dean which was to extend the interest in Anderson, Perot, McCain who spoke directly to this group.

And as you say, liberalism is reform oriented, so the you won't lose the base if you run as a reformer.

What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:55:17 AM EST

One itsy problem (none / 0)

I really like this analysis...  But...

Privatizing social security is a "reform" platform.  Welfare "reform" is a "reform" platform. Tax "reform" is a "reform" platform. Republicans recognized this a decade ago and snatched up all the reforms for their own.

The only ones left for us are election reform, legislative reform (improving the transparency and accountability of the legislative process), and perhaps corporate reform (which would be though because all politicians are in the pockets of corporations). Those aren't small, but they're still the leftovers.

I agree that Dean is the only Democrat with creds here, but that makes him a good candidate in 2008 as much as a good DNC chair.

by fwiffo on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 11:05:17 AM EST

The Sagebrush Regions of Reformers (none / 0)

Many of you may be familiar with this analysis at:

The 10 Regions of US Politics
http://www.massinc.org/commonwealth/new_map_exclusive/ten_regions.html

But the description of the Sagebrush region seems to me the key area to focus on...

And as Jerome said above, Howard Dean's message was not the invention of Joe Trippi...

While it would be silly to suggest that Trippi's vision didn't contribute greatly to Dean's rise, ironically it also helped cloud Dean's real strength in appealing to the non-ideological reformer.

And as Dean has said himself, he wanted to "move to the center" in early fall but was strongly advised against it for fear that it would alienate the base...

I don't think it would have...

What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 11:07:25 AM EST

Reform?? (1.00 / 1)

   I found this idea to be over simplified and you don't give the "folks" out there much credit.  Reform can be good or bad.  You must define what that reform is before people will back it or oppose it.

   1st Reform.  We should reform the "condum over the banana" school system.  Parents care more about their children than politicians or bureaucrates.  Give tax credits to the parents and let them choose the school that works best for their families.  The schools that perform will prosper.  The schools that don't will die.  However, Democrats have a lot invested in the teacher unions who oppose reform.  Ergo, Democrats are the party of the status quo.

   2nd Reform.  Let anyone who wants to put 4% of their social security into stocks, bonds or a simple savings account.  Also increase the SS tax to people who make $200K a year.  This will stop the government from spending the surplus SS$ and allow it to be saved for the people.  BUT, Democrates are against this reform to save SS.  They are the party for the status quo.

   3rd Reform.  Reform the corrupt judiciary that gave us Roe v Wade.  There is no right to an abortion in  the constitution and everybody (who is honest) knows this.  Justly overturn Roe and send the issue back to the states.  Blue states will cotinue the murderous onslaught against the innocents and pay the consequence for doing evil.  Red states will outlaw the murder and be blessed because of it.  But Democrats are against this.  They are the party of the status quo.

   4th Reform.  Tort Reform.  Cap claims for suffering to 3 times the award of real damages.  This will lower prices on everything.  But Democrats are against this.  They are the party of the status quo.

   There is much, much more.  As long as the socialist, humanist left dominates the Democratic party, your "reforms" will quite rightly be perceived as destructive, flying in the face of morality and economics.  Otto von Bismark said it the best.  "If a man is not a socialist at 20, he has no heart.  But...if he is still a socialist at 30, he has no brain".

by Robert A August on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 11:09:48 AM EST

Re: Reform?? (none / 0)

People in this group simply crave good, fair, fact-based, non-ideological government...

And they are open to many solutions to a wide variety of issues...

It's not fealty to the word "reform."

What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 11:18:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

What about Churchill? (none / 0)

Though variations of that quote have been attributed to many people, Churchill is usually considered the person who said:

"Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart, and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain."

What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 11:36:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Reform?? (none / 0)

Sigh. Yet another GOP troll trying to tell us the GOP is right about every issue....
If you're always playing the fear card, it's a pretty good sign you're not playing with a full deck!
by Mathwiz on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 05:51:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

New Democrat Message... (none / 0)

We must have a "label" to attach to any progressive, reform minded Democratic message.

It must be short and consise.

It must be repeated over and over.

It must have a It must have a "inclusive" point that will include the folks that do not like either party because of "being insiders" that have control over candidates.

I have read many of the messages this past month and the word "FAIRNESS" keeps coming back.  We know the Repubs. are anything but fair...in so many ways-you know them all.

So...The Party of REFORM WITH FAIRNESS!

Thanks for letting me put my 2 bits in.

by lja on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 12:07:46 PM EST

Re: New Democrat Message... (none / 0)

I doubt if a coherent Democratic message would have changed the outcome of this election, but it would have been nice to see.

A foreign policy direction would be swell.  We could certainly start with a return to bipartisanship and multilateralism.

But the real advantage for Dems in the long-term could be our stand on globalization.  First, we have to get past the idea that we can stop gloablization.  Even if that were possible, I don't believe it's in the interest of those we Dems care about.  

Instead, we should be using a slogan like "Making Globalization work for All the People, not just a Privileged Few".  Enforcing labor and environmental rules globally should be our long-term focus.  The enemy of that Reform is multi-national corporations.

Labor, the Environment, and Women's Rights-- those are the key components of a national and global strategy to energize the left.

by withrow on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 02:08:46 PM EST
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Re: New Democrat Message... (none / 0)

Sorry, "REFORM WITH FAIRNESS" does NOT cut it!

"Fairness" is a wussy little word used by liberals who want to appear to "the little guy" without appearing militant about it.  It envisions the non-rich as charity cases, not as actors in their own right fighting for what is rightfully theirs.

In the mid-80's certain precursors of the DLC started jabbering about the "fairness issue".  What was once the CORE of the Democrat message - "party of the little guy", "party of the worker against the party of Wall St.", etc. now became one issue out of many and certainly not the most important.  This phrase symbolized the downfall of the Democrats as a majority party.

Fighting for the little guy
Economic Patriotism

These are much better slogans.  Forget "fairness" as a slogan. Please.

by sTiVo on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 09:23:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

good point, some nitpicks (3.00 / 3)

Very good analysis overall.  I have long believed that the 1992 Perot voters, and the "Reagan Democrats" of the 1980s, were mostly people who might be, can be, should be Democratic voters.  

We failed to speak to them.  We looked down on them.  The Clinton administration and the DLC "centrist" policymakers failed to listen to their concerns, and pursued policies that alienated them.  The left responded even more poorly, dismissed their attempts to organize politically with names like "fusion paranoia" and "right-wing populism", and even tried to link them to the right-wing militia movement.  The Republicans saw the opportunity and pounced on it in 1994, and that bloc have been Republican voters ever since.

Some observations about this big voting bloc:

  • They aren't right-wing.  They aren't left-wing either.  If anything they are apolitical and centrist.  They differ from other "centrists" like the DLC in that they are alienated from mainstream institutions and see them working against their needs and concerns.

  • They respond well to libertarian rhetoric.  I don't mean the extreme Libertarian policy proposals (deregulate everything, abolish public roads, sell the national parks, end taxation, totally open borders, legalize drugs, etc.) but libertarian rhetoric of the small-l type: "get government off your backs", freedom of choice in personal matters whether it's guns or abortion, respect property rights.

  • Despite responding well to libertarian rhetoric, they are not, as a rule, libertarians.  In many ways they are the opposite - lean liberal on economic issues, lean conservative on social issues.

  • Trade policy, protecting American jobs, globalization, offshoring, outsourcing, guest worker visas, high illegal immigration levels, and the like, are big issues with them.  So are wages - raising the minimum wage would go over well with them.  The DLC's pro-corporate "New Democrat" policy prescriptions leave them cold and alienated.

  • Some are union members, and some are farmers, but they aren't by and large a blue-collar bloc anymore.  As the rest of America has shifted away from blue-collar and agriculture toward white-collar jobs and service-sector jobs, so have they.  But they maintain more of an identification with the blue-collar politics of the past than others have.

  • From 1932 to 1976, that voting bloc was part of the Democratic Party coalition.  That is because FDR brought them in by speaking to their needs and meeting those needs.  The 1948 Henry Wallace campaign was an anomoly, and was more a test of whether this bloc would go back to voting thrid party if given the chance.  Wallace only got 1% of the vote - and of all the maps above, his campaign was the worst performing, even Nader in 2000 and Lemke in 1936 did better.  Otherwise, there was no significant third party campaign (except for the various Dixiecrat segregationists, who did well in the South but nowhere else) from 1932 to 1976.  Anderson in 1980 marked the end of that era.

One thing I want to point out though, where you said, "This is how we grow liberalism and finally push the liberal electoral coalition first postulated by the McGovern campaign into power."

How and why the Republicans have been able to get so much mileage out of portraying liberalism as elitist is a subject that could have volumes written about it.  For better understanding than I can articulate, I recommend books like "What's the Matter With Kansas?"  But I am going to put forth an argument here that might be unpopular but I am going to say it anyway:  The Republican narrative that portrays liberalism as elitist is not without basis in reality, and the roots of that can be found in the 1972 McGovern coalition.  

Sometime during the 1970s, liberalism became steadily less associated in the public mind with the old New Deal coalition of FDR and Truman, organized labor, and the old Civil Rights coalition of Truman, JFK, and LBJ.  Instead it became associated with newer groups that emerged out of the McGovern campaign: the Childrens Defense Fund, the Southern Povery Law Center, Handgun Control Inc., the National Organization for Women, etc.  Those groups are seen by Joe Sixpack as promoting policies that are too far left on social issues, and emphasize social liberalism as opposed to economic liberalism.  Concurrent with that, a lot of celebrities became spokespeople for liberal causes, creating an impression that liberalism's strongest base is in Hollywood instead of on Main Street USA.

Reagan and the nascent New Right movement seized on the new face of liberalism and used it to their advantage.  Except for Clinton, we have had Republican administrations since 1980.  I also think Clinton only got elected because of Perot taking most of the "Reagan Democrat" votes that would otherwise have gone Republican.

Liberalism acquired a reputation, deserved or not, as wimpy and elitist, in place of the old fighting liberalism of a Truman or an LBJ that spoke to the working class.

The DLC attempted to posit a "centrist" alternative, but all they did was they took that new face of liberalism and merely watered it down, promoting policies that are socially liberal, but fiscally conservative.  Working class needs got ignored in the process.

How did the new liberal groups, as well as the DLC, respond to the Perot phenomenon?  Reagan Democrats?  Pat Buchanan?  By dismissing them as know-nothings.  Ignoring their concerns over NAFTA and American jobs.  Passing laws like the Brady Bill over their objections.  One reporter wrote a widely discussed opinion piece calling them "fusion paranoids".  One liberal group churned out report after report on the threat from "right-wing populism" and all but accused the voting bloc of having fascist tendencies.  The DLC adopted an attitude that they were behind the times and trying to stop inevitable trends such as globalization and deregulation.  Some Libertarians responded the same way, with one author writing a book called "The Future and Its Enemies" that accused them of being enemies of technology and progress.

I am less interested in pushing the liberal electoral coalition first postulated by the McGovern campaign into power, because politically, I don't think it's a viable strategy.  It is, in fact, an image we need to jettison.  Instead, I am interested in pushing the liberal electoral coalition, first postulated by Franklin D. Roosevelt and the New Deal, back into power.

To do that, we are going to have to win over the independent, non-ideological "reformer" segment.  But my argument here, is we will never be able to do that unless liberalism shifts back to promoting economic liberalism, and away from the post-McGovern emphasis on social issues.

Howard Dean was on the right track in at least two ways, one with his position that gun control needs to get off the national agenda, and the other with his widely misunderstood remark about winning over the voters with Confederate Flag decals on their trucks.  But he also has too much baggage, too much association with social liberalism and with the DLC's fiscal conservatism, to be really effective.  Unfortunately I can't think of anyone better right now though.  We have a long way to go to undo the problems in the Democratic Party.

by ACSR on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 12:12:39 PM EST

Re: good point, some nitpicks (3.00 / 2)

Excellent points.

I would add that one of the tenets of effective organizing is that your goals need to be "believable".  If we are trying to organize the alienated center to vote with us...we have to understand that they don't believe that government can improve their lives in dramatic ways (that's why people can be continuously shoot down public solutions at the same time they don't have much face in private/corporate solutions).  

We gain no credibility by proposing big solutions to big problems...they just think we are out of touch.

Embedded in this is also the kernel of why local politics matter:  proof at the local level that policy can work allows for new ideas to become credible with less risk.

I would also make the point that Dean in the DNC doesn't mean that the public face of the party is somehow defined by him...it might be the perfect place for him to excite the base...just as long as doesn't just assume the rest will follow.

by heymister on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 12:57:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Populism (3.00 / 1)

All this Republican talk about faith is a powerful form of populism. After all, if I can talk directly with God, then no one else can rank any higher than that. What a great self-affirmation.

Neither the Democratic nor Republican parties have anything material to offer rural, white, poor people (or increasingly, any poor people at all). So if their material needs are ignored, the next-best thing is someone who can speak to their spiritual identity. That's "what's the matter with Kansas," and it was Dean's point about the confederate pickup trucks.

Democrats inadvertently promoted the politics of division by emphasizing interest group politics, responding too visibly and often unfairly to the most organized market segments and making lists of groups of people who need to be protected (invariably overlooking less organized groups). The conservative thing about gay marriage, as well as their claim of elitism, is just their way of responding in kind, escalating the divisiveness.

That's not to say that the divisive conservative campaign is our fault, but it does mean that we shouldn't take it at face value, but look underneath for a more effective way to combat it.

So the answer is not to respond back in terms of interest groups, or to make any concessions in our core values based on interest group politics. What we have to do is adopt language and policies that are more inclusive, that don't leave groups out. Show that we have something to offer all poor people. Show that we stand for equal rights under the law for everyone, no exceptions. That's the reform we need, and it's very fundamental to the way the party works.

More about this on my blog.

Howard Dean understands this and showed the strength to stand up to interest group politics. I was sold the day he spoke to a labor group and told them he was offering them no special promises, just policies aimed toward growing the middle class in general that would clearly be friendly to labor as well. That took some guts. Subsequent endorsements showed that labor appreciated the straight talk and saw a hint of the future there.

Anyone who heads the DNC will need to come to grips with the failure of interest group politics. If they don't, the Republicans will continue to beat us over the head with our old baggage.

by pdt on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 03:07:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Inclusivism (none / 0)

One thing I see as a core liberal value is bringing everybody into the benefits of a middle class existence.  That was the basis of the Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s.  It was also the basis of the New Deal of the 1930s and 1940s - although the next logical step after that was the Civil Rights movement, because of existing instituionalized exclusion of some people which excluded them, at first, from the benefits of the New Deal.

It's something we need to recapture as our core message today.

Liberalism has shifted from an all-inclusive message to one of identity politics, in which groups advocate for their own interests, and people seem too willing to identify with one oppressed group or another.  That, fairly or unfairly, gives an image of exclusionary politics.  In this case the people excluded are those groups not well organized, as well as those who don't identify with any oppressed group.  Identity politics creates "angry white males" out of a lot of working class people who should be part of the liberal coalition.  The next logical step after identity politics is when "angry white males" do start organizing, to dismiss them and label those people as somehow an inherently reactionary phenomenon.  Dismiss them and label them reactionary, and they will become just that.  The Republicans got them because we dropped the ball.  That was one point I hoped to make above.

We need to somehow recapture an all-inclusive message.

by ACSR on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 07:25:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Nicely done. (none / 0)

You have provided a good argument for why the Democrats need to develop a coordinated liberal reform message. I agree that Dean is strong candidate for the DNC based on this idea.

A progressive reform platform is however only one stanza in a more complete progressive song for us. That song must include a traditional progressive platform. And, because I like songs with at least three stanzas, we could make a better effort to bring over voters who are inclined to support progressive policies but swing to republicans on national security concerns. If we develop a progressive message that speaks to this group, we would be doing ourselves a world of good since America has now engaged a war on terrorism that could have a longer shelf life than the cold war. Progressives should not underestimate the lingering currents of 9/11 and we need to respond with a message that allows these latent liberals to trust progressives with America's national security.

by dicta on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 12:30:29 PM EST

The Democrats message is universal, the GOP's mess (none / 0)

The Democrats message is universal, the GOP's 'message' is based on greed. The GOP is basically a lot like Dicken's 'Scrooge' in that they use the political process (and religion) as a cover for their own spiritual void.

Its a lot like the old shell game.

The GOP is playing some sleight-of-hand tricks on Americans, including many in their own party (who have joined it thinking that they will come out ahead economically if GOP policies win out..but they are the biggest suckers) The GOP insiders, a much smaller group, have a 'public' face and a 'private' face. The 'private' face they show to each other is a bit like a frat boy. "Just watch how we pull this fast one on those old folks and children, haha"

We have to expose that inside greed, that inside evil.

It won't be that difficult. Liars tend to screw up once their lies reach a certain critical mass.. Its already happening.

If we keep exposing their lies, eventually, people will figure out their MOD.

Thats what happened in the 60s and 70s.

by ultraworld on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 12:33:58 PM EST

Re: The Democrats message is universal, (none / 0)

What is this universal message you speak of?  Please articulate as concisely as possible.  See my post above.  Thanks!
by kitsae on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 12:44:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Eureka -- you have found it (none / 0)

This is pure genius -- this reform strategy. This is the holy grail of everything you have been writing about this year. Kevin Phillips writes about this very thing in extensive detail in a great Harpers Magazine roundtable discussion from the August 2004 issue (article title -- 'Building the Next Progressive Majority'). In the article, Phillips details the demographics of Mccain, Perot, and Anderson voters. To split the coalition on the other side, Dems need to be anti-corporate (pro-regulation when necessary -- and corporate regulation is very necessary in many ways right now), anti-tax, anti-gun control, anti-global warming, pro-seperation of church and state, and non California/New York/Massachusetts elite. In essence, anti-institutional power and pro-individual rights. That's the American ethos -- do your own thing. Anything associated with the Ivy League and Harvard social planners is the kiss of death. This is all the more reason why a southern or western Dem Presidential nominee (a southern or western libertarian -- not a southern or western religious ultra centrist candidate) is the ticket in 2008. Upper Midwest Dem presidential nominees like McGovern and Mondale have trouble (they seem too old labor machine oriented and tax and spendish) and Northeastern nominees like Kerry and Dukakis have trouble, as they seem elitist and Ivy-league.
by JT on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 08:33:35 PM EST

Re: Eureka -- you have found it (none / 0)

From the Harpers' article you mentioned:

LAPHAM: Are there any issues that could speak to a larger part of the electorate? Of do most Americans now think of politics as something that only happens in the Balkans?

PHILLIPS: The obvious thing is the mess that the Bush Administration is making in Iraq. The imperial approach has lost us credibility all over the world. If this can't be used as an indictment against Bush, then I don't know what can. The man is the least competent military leader since James Madison let the British bum Washington. Other issues moderates are concerned about are deficit spending and campaign finance. You've got to assemble a new progressive movement with disaffected elements of the existing Republican coalition. . . .

PHILLIPS: There are four or five progressive stands today that actually speak very well to a lot of dissident Republicans. Remember that since 1992 it has been the Republicans, as well as the Democrats, who have produced presidential candidates running on various progressive lines: Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan, and John McCain. You had opposition to imperialism overseas, particularly from Perot and Buchanan. You had concern about globalization--from Perot and Buchanan--and you also had concern about the deficit, from McCain and Perot. All three urged campaign-finance reform. McCain and Perot ran against the religious right far more articulately and courageously than Democrats ever have. It would be alien to the Democrats to think that they should be courting a whole lot of people from the Republican side. But if you're going to form a national progressive majority, you've got to attract members of the G.O.P. who have favored progressive presidential candidates and themes. . . .

Ross Perot won 19 percent of the national vote, and in some states he won 25, 30 percent of the vote. These votes were pulled mostly out of the Republican coalition. In the 2000 primary, McCain was able to beat George W. Bush in several states, partly by attacking corporate misbehavior and Republican tax policies, and by blasting the religious right.

PIVEN: Kevin, do you see the Republican backlash against the religious right as happening on libertarian grounds?

PHILLIPS: No, no, I see it on more cultural grounds. If moderate Republicans have one thing besides Iraq that makes them want to vote against Bush, it's all these fundamentalists coming out of the woodwork from Armpit, Alabama. It's this biblical worldview in which Baghdad is the new Babylon. The average Presbyterian Republican in suburbia thinks those people are wackos.

LAPHAM: Are there really enough Republican dissidents to form the critical mass in a new progressive majority?

PHILLIPS: Maybe only 15 to 20 percent of the Bush coalition, but it would be a big swing. And the other thing to remember about the three dissident Republican candidates is that they all succeeded in increasing electoral participation, especially Perot. Perot increased voter turnout from 50 to 55 percent. Jesse Ventura raised turnout in Minnesota too. No liberal movement could possibly increase turnout to that extent, but populist conservatism can. The type of person who can command a major-party nomination is more likely to be a conservative populist who can get the turnout up. . . .

A lot of independent-leaning Republican voters are unhappy with Bush on a lot of issues that are compatible with the Democratic side. But there's no institutional force; nothing to manage it, to mold it. The Democrats seem entirely unaware of the fact that the two parties have areas of overlap. Pat Buchanan beat Bob Dole in the New Hampshire primary on jobs and corporations; John McCain won in Michigan by raising concern about the Republican Party and the religious right. So there's obviously a big group of votes there. But the Democratic progressive community has essentially no lines of communication to it.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1111/is_1851_309/ai_n6153676

by tgeraghty on Tue Dec 07, 2004 at 01:32:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Ideology (none / 0)

There are some positive trends taking place as
evidenced by the results from the 2004 election.
The success of the Democrats in state legislative
races, the success in western states, and the success in picking more urban areas.  Dallas and Indianapolis voted Democratic for the first time since 1964.  Charlotte voted Democratic for the Presidential and Senate races this year.  However I believe it will a catastrophic mistake to think voters will accept a liberal message on the national level at anytime in the future.

I base this on the history of voting cycles in the United States.  Look at the turn of the last century, William McKinley had led the Republicans into their modern day pro-business party.  Theodore Roosevelt was a moderate Republican who became President on the assassination of McKinley.  Roosevelt embraced progressive ideas for this time, but the country turned back to a conservative pro-business William Howard Taft in 1908.  When Taft ran for re-election in 1912 he had Teddy Roosevelt running as a third party candidate on the Bull-Moose ticket.   This enabled Woodrow Wilson to win the election, and a very
tight re-election in 1916.  In 1920, the country turned back to the right and away from the progressive ideas for 3 straight elections.

It was during the heart of Great Depression in 1932 that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected, running a conservative agenda to balance the budget.  The election went to FDR because of his optimistic personality and conservative agenda.

FDR started to  gradually expand the government
as he worked to creat hope in the minds of the citizens.   The citizens went along with Roosevelt because he was trying many different approaches to get the country moving, and his New Deal led to a major realignment in American politics.

In 1948 Truman wins a squeaker to finish the Marshall post war re-building of the world. By 1952 Americans had grown weary of one party controlling the government and elected Eisenhower to the White House.  This time the Republicans had moderated after so many years out of control and ran as a common sense party of fiscal responsiblity.   The 1960 election brought in
another era of change.  Two young cold warriors,
Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy ran against one
another.   John F. Kennedy ran to the right of Richard Nixon on claims the current administration had allowed the Soviets to obtain a superiority in missiles.  It was Kennedy's charm, good looks and partiotic challenge to duty that helped to win the election.   Not to mention a very wealthy father and a party machine to turn out the vote. Like Roosevelt, after he became President that
Kennedy began to embrace policies to support working men and women along with movement on the civil rights front.

The purpose of this brief history lesson is that
the titans of our party that have been elected President, have run a common sense non-threatening platform.   They had strong leadership skills and a positive message on where they wanted to lead the country.  They used their strong personalities to lead the country to make
changes in the status-quo after they were elected.
Bill Clinton has also reminded us of the benefit of a strong positive message.  

It is the message that has lead people to elect
these strong liberal presidents of the past, not
a litany of progessive policies.

If we can recruit a candidate with a positive message who can relate to the average middle class
American we will win back control of government.
The initial statistics also point to someone from the west.

by ncpatriot04 on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 09:32:17 PM EST

Dems have always been the Underdogs and Outsiders (none / 0)

Here is the label that a previous poster was asking for: The underdog who is on the outside who fights AGAINST the power. As someone else wrote above -- the OUTSIDERS. To be an OUTSIDER, people have to understand very clearly who the main institution is that you are against. That institution for Dems needs to be the multi-national corporation. The new internet fundraising success of Dean and Kerry makes this possible. Individuals now fund the major campaign every four years, not the corporations. DEMS -- the OUTSIDERS against corporate power. The OUTSIDERS for clean air. Sportsmen in the west and the Sagebrush citizens another poster wrote about, are even becoming much more environmentalist and against corporate polluting. The giant sucking sound Perot talked about will soon be a sonic boom. Outsourcing will soon drastically reduce the American standard of living. Not because these companies benevolently want to somehow help impoverished people in the third world, but because they simply are greedy. Globalization IS here to stay, but there is an intense amount of anger at outsourcing and CEO greed amongst all Americans -- from one end of the political spectrum to the other. As another previous poster wrote agove, this should be the Dem mantra: "Making Globalization work for All the People, not just a Privileged Few." Being against unfair outsourcing and global warming also dovetails with the right's long-time stereotype as being the pawn of CEOs and the country-club crowd.

Someone wrote that Dems have to get rid of interest group baggage before they can get off the ground in a sustainable way. Not necessarily true. Dems simply have to stop being sheepish about being for the underdog or for fairness. Dems won't be the party of the NASCAR crowd for a long time. The better strategy is simply to articulate more clearly and un-sheepishly why they are for women and minorities. That that very tack of being for women and minorities is a tack that can work for poor whites as well when the Dems are unequivocally against Fortune 500 power. For the outsiders and underdogs, no matter what color of their skin.

Absolutely -- Dems need a governor in 2008, not a Senator or a House member. It must be about anti DC and corporate and political establishment. I agree completely: "Dems future success is not predicated upon moving to the left or the right, but rather in our ability to move from the inside to the outside in the national political frame." Now is the time to be anti DC. The only Dems to win the presidency in 40 years were both governors.

Several people wrote above that:  
liberalism has shifted from an all-inclusive message to one of identity politics, in which groups advocate for their own interests, and people seem too willing to identify with one oppressed group or another.  That, fairly or unfairly, gives an image of exclusionary politics.  In this case the people excluded are those groups not well organized, as well as those who don't identify with any oppressed group.  Identity politics creates "angry white males" out of a lot of working class people who should be part of the liberal coalition. We need to somehow recapture an all-inclusive message.  Show that we have something to offer all poor people. Show that we stand for equal rights under the law for everyone, no exceptions. -----

The way for Dems to recapture an all inclusive message is to be against the authority that bedevils the angry working white man and poor white women both -- the corporate CEOs, corporate accountants, and Wall street tycoons.
Equal rights under the law for everyone, no exceptions, is equal rights AGAINST CORPORATE POWER for feminists, minorities, white poor women, and caucasian Joe NASCAR. Equal rights for all employed Americans.

Everyone needs a looming institutional enemy. The best major institution that Dems can rail against right now (the right has already co-opted the anti-government tack) that will bring non college educated whites back into the fold is to be against Fortune 500 power. This is a time when what financial power lower income non college educated whites have had, is rapidly moving to India and China.

The reasons people don't see a clear message from the Dems is because they don't know what Dems are against. They know that Dems are for women and minority rights, union benefits, social security, clean air, etc. The Fortune 500 conglomerate can be that new umbrella enemy that wants to limit benefits, clean air, fair wages, for everbody. The Fortune 500 consortium can be that new enemy that everyone can feel free to be against. Kerry almost won in socially conservative Ohio. It was because of the enemy everyone is against -- the sucking sound of the outsourcing Fortune 500 consortium.

by JT on Mon Dec 06, 2004 at 10:36:26 PM EST

Eureka, Eureka (none / 0)

Simply to add to your "Eureka!":

Change the dominant political narrative by changing what is associated with liberal.  Identify an institution that is of overarching significance in the struggles of individuals in this society--say, the unregulated, shareholder-driven corporation. Build a genuine liberal reform narrative and a genuine coherent, long-term, national campaign around the need to change corporate structure so that it becomes a democratic and capitalist tool that serves employees, consumers, communities, and the environment as well as stockholders.

Think of how many causes for struggling, responsible individuals and families such a narrative and campaign would embrace. Leave Radical Republicans serving the corporate interests, and cleave off the `reformer, non-ideological moderates' from their coalition. This definitely moves the Democratic Party from the inside to the outside in the national political frame. It also provides an appeal to many social conservatives.

In "The Democrats' Da Vinci Code" (The American Prospect, http://www.alternet.org/election04/20702/) David J. Sirota makes a well developed case for a bold class-based populism. At the heart of each one of Sirota's proposed seven steps--

  1. Fight the Class War
  2. Champion Small Business Over Big Business
  3. Protect Tom Joad
  4. Turn the Hunters and the Exurbs Green
  5. Become a Teddy Roosevelt Clone
  6. Clean Up Government
  7. Use the Values Prism--

is the problem of corporate power.  And he makes that clear, point by point.  In fact, it is at the heart of every major problem in this country, and virtually all voters know it in their bones.  In a 2000 Business Week/Harris poll 95% clearly indicated this.  The big corporation is now the `inside', making the rest of us the `outside'.

Creating a positive national campaign to help corporations become responsible citizens and America more democratic will make the coalition you are talking about--and maybe more.  The objective would be to creatively destroy the corporation as we know it and replace it with a new kind of corporation that is inherently socially responsible.  To make this tool our tool so that we can make this land our land.

Is it doable?  Maybe only in part.  But that part can make so much difference.  Further, such a campaign would be the ground for the new narrative you call for and the re-making of the Democratic Party, whether that is done from the inside out or the outside in.

Structurally, there is no issue that sweeps as wide and cuts as deep as this problem of overweening corporate power, and it is the nexus where so many interests and causes and personal stories cross and can join together.  It effects every human being in our country and in the world so profoundly.  It violates so blatantly one value shared universally: fairness.

joncehart

by joncehart on Fri Dec 10, 2004 at 08:09:27 PM EST


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