Gregoire Wins

Let's see them throw out the legal votes in favor of Gregoire now:
OLYMPIA, Wash. - The head of the state Democratic Party said late Tuesday that recount results from King County give Democrat Christine Gregoire an eight-vote victory in the closest governor's race in state history.

Neither King County nor the Republican party could confirm the hand recount results on Tuesday night. But if the Democrats' analysis is correct, it's a stunning reversal in the gubernatorial race, which has been hotly contested ever since election day.

With a lawsuit pending that will increase her lead, Gregoire will become the next governor of Washington. Rossi has no recourse left. It is over.



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Washington (none / 0)

Nice to see the Democrats hanging tough and winning one.  
by global yokel on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 12:24:37 AM EST

Congrats to every voter turnout volunteer in WA (2.00 / 0)

Every single one of you. If you ever wondered if the long days and nights of work you were doing mattered, doubt your efforts no more. It mattered. Boy, did it matter.
by afs on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 12:29:40 AM EST

well (1.00 / 0)

If this holds I am very relieved, that in spite of an ass whopping nationwide there are bright spots for us
Tennesseans for Feingold
by ben114 on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 12:59:20 AM EST

Re: well (3.00 / 0)

It's great Gregoire may win, but I can't call it a bright spot given how strongly democratic WA is, it's scary that Rossi got as close as he did. I think it means western WA democrats have become a bit complacent perhaps.

I definitely feel safer in my Northwest corner of the scary USA knowing Gregoire will be governor.

by slammers on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 01:08:25 AM EST
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Re: well (2.00 / 0)

it gives her a chance to do something and become a better candidate.  hopefully, she'll learn something from this kick in the pants and get to work.
by benchcoat on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:11:19 AM EST
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The Bright Spot (3.00 / 2)

Here's the bright spot:  the Democrat won.

This is politics.  You either win and hold some power or lose and hold none.  In this country, in this time, every Democrat that holds some power is a bright spot.

That's one less Republican waterboy for the Bush/Cheney Junta.

That's one less Republican to appear on television and talk about how voters in a blue state rejected the Democratic Party.

That's one less Republican to raise money and campaign against Democratic candidates for other offices.

That's one less Republican to use the considerable powers of a state governor to suppress votes, to pervert the electoral process, to destroy the Democratic Party.

That's one more time where we fought and we won.

That's one more time where we made them count the goddamned votes.

That's one more time where the Democratic Party acted like a political party that wants to win office.

That's a very bright spot.

by James Earl on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:44:32 AM EST
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don't taunt the irony gods (3.00 / 1)

we don't know the actual content of those ballots.  cross yourself, throw salt over your shoulder, follow whatever your tradition is for warding off the spectre of bad irony

I am curious to see if Rossi has a sudden change of heart about tallying those King Co. ballots.  Bad odds are better than no odds.

by benchcoat on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 01:07:47 AM EST

Hey, Gregoire has a MANDATE! (3.00 / 0)

She had 7 whole votes to spare.
by afs on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 03:46:03 AM EST
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Re: Hey, Gregoire has a MANDATE! (none / 0)

Hey...an idea for how to frame it to the homophobic WA State Rethugs...

Who would you rather have a man date?  Christine Gregoire or Dino Rossi?

by DC Pol Sci on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 10:34:54 PM EST
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In fact (3.00 / 1)

Its now in Rossi's advantage to want those ballots included.  If Gregoire's ahead in the final count, its in Rossi's interest to let those other ballots in.  They are most likely in Gregoire's favor, but if he's behind in the final count his only hope is go for the hail mary and hope they favor him.
by Lavoisier1794 on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 01:31:02 AM EST

Re: In fact (3.00 / 1)

Nah, losing by 8 is better than losing by a hundred or more.  Rossi will do his best to minimize the loss and cast doubt on the results.
by Skaje on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 04:21:14 AM EST
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Great news (none / 0)

It helps a little.
by descrates on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 01:42:49 AM EST

I Eagerly Await The Next Rossi/GOP 180 (none / 0)

Now that Rossi's behind!
by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:34:27 AM EST

Tell Rossi to concede (2.00 / 0)

... cause you know he's not gonna go out without some kicking and screaming (Chris Vance accusing King County of corruption, Ralph Munro calling for a new election, etc.)

We at Progressive Majority Washinigton have just set up a handy web action to use if you like.

by radicalsubversiv on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:35:22 AM EST

It ain't over 'til it's over... (3.00 / 1)

Aides to Dino "Hypoc" Rossi, who had previously demanded that Gregoire "do the right thing" and concede after the machine recount, have already said that he will go to court to have the hand recount thrown out and his 42-vote post-machine-recount victory reinstated should the hand recount establish Gregoire as the winner.  On what grounds?  Who knows?  There were no reasonable grounds to prevent the 753 improperly-discarded King County ballots from being included in the hand recount, either, but the Republicans found a judge that fell for their argument (or complete lack thereof) hook, line, and sinker.  I wonder of SCOTUS will eventually get a crack at this?
by JDWalley on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:39:23 AM EST

Re: It ain't over 'til it's over... (none / 0)

I can't see the SCOTUS getting involved (Unless Emperor George says too)...Even if the Emperor does want them involved, I can't see Scalia, an jack ass but a strong advocate for states rights interferring in a state wide election.  Thomas has similiar beliefs and I will bet the Dem members will go along with them since it would be a bipartisan rulinf.  This thing will go to and end with the Washington State Supreme Court... Anyone know the makeup of that court?  I assume Dem leaning but....
by yitbos96bb on Thu Dec 23, 2004 at 11:15:11 AM EST
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Well maybe for once the system... (3.00 / 0)

...seems to work and I would say that whichever candidate won although I would prefer to see Gregoire win.  The more I read about Rossi's efforts to curtail the recounts the more I wanted to see him lose.

But it appears the system worked.  There were over 2,750,000 votes cast in the governor's race in Washington.  The first tally said Rossi was 261 votes ahead.  This triggered an automatic recount which the machines said resulted in only a 42 vote margin.

The law said a hand recount could proceed if paid for by the Greogoire campaign and it did foot the bill.  In every country each ballot was reviewed by a Demcorat, a Republican and an independent observer.  All three had to agree on the vote for the ballot to be counted.

After the hand recount it would appear at least 2,000 or so more votes were found casts in the gubernatorial race that the machines missed at least one or both times through (not even counting the absentee ballots set aside in King County that may yet be counted by court order).;

Now, out of 2.75 million plus votes it ends up with an eight vote margin it would appear.  It could have been eight votes for Gregorie (my preference) or Rossi -- but the process has worked.  It was done in accordance with the rules of the game (memo to U.S. Supreme Court on this one re 2000, let the rules of the game be played out, don't stop them in mid-game), the final recount was paid for by the entity which asked for the recount and tireless workers across the state counted all the votes and in the process found many still had not been counted by the machines either the 1st or 2nd time around so thankfully there was a third count to enfranchise those voters uncounted the first two times.

And if this episode doesn't send the message to people that it is important to vote, nothing will.  There are reasons we take the time to vote early or absentee or stand in lines on Election Day itself.  There are those occasions when every vote really does count.  They may be rare but this is as good an example as can be.

by dlohse on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:44:40 AM EST

Tracking the Recount (none / 0)

Permanent Defense continues to support Gregoire and the Democratic Party, bringing you the latest news from the recount. We'll be tuning in to the state Supreme Court hearing today at 9:30 AM to monitor what happens.

Also listen to Republican candidate Dino Rossi's double standard on litigation at our Elections page.

Democrats need to keep their spitis up!

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by nwprogressive on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:47:15 AM EST

The Republicans will fight tooth and nail!! (3.00 / 1)

8 votes out of 2.9 million cast?? That's an astronomical number... as the LA TIMES put it earlier this week, that's like winning a 100 meer dash by HALF of a MILLIMETER. (For you non-metric Luddites---lte's just say its awfully dayum close, okay?)

I predict a "Democrats stole the election meme" out by 5pm tomorrow, regardless of the State Supreme Court's decision on the legality of the 723 ballots in question...

by MadProfessah on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:47:16 AM EST

Re: The Republicans will fight tooth and nail!! (none / 0)

Doesn't matter

If Rossi had won by the 41 votes he would have said that he had a Man Date.

Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 06:31:12 AM EST
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SPIRITS! (none / 0)

Democrats need to keep their SPIRITS up!
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by nwprogressive on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:47:54 AM EST

Money back (none / 0)

The Democrats get the money back that they put up for the recount, right?
by Skaje on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 04:18:07 AM EST

THE BEST PART!!!! (3.00 / 1)

that the state now has to return the one million dollars back to the state democratic party.

So not only do they have a new governor but one hell of a war chest to boot to fight the smear attacks and entrench themselves in all counties

Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 06:33:20 AM EST

good news and bad news (3.00 / 0)

If this is true, and her victory does hold up, we heard a lot about how the GOP couldn't lose here, since even if Rossi came out behind he would be well positioned for a run at Cantwell in 2006. Does anybody have any info on how people in Washington are viewing this--Gregoire trying to steal the election, etc? If they view it that way they might be very sympathetic to giving Rossi the "consolation" of a Senate seat two years from now.
by asf6 on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 08:46:14 AM EST

Winner (none / 0)

I think the Democratics should proclaim this win as an overwhelming mandate to turn Washington State into a left wing socialist paradise !!
by eddieb on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:00:59 PM EST

I made a difference!! (none / 0)

I worked on this race as part of SEIU's Heroes efforts in this state.
The best thing about Gregoire winning by so close of a margin is that every progressive group can claim that they were the difference in getting her elected.
Unions, environmental groups, feminist organizations and other citizen groups can be proud that their efforts saved her poorly run campaign.

Now we'll see if she will govern from the left or from the center.

by raddude on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 02:57:50 PM EST

If It's 8 Votes (none / 0)

8 votes is such a small margin that folks will be taking a good look at the count. There are published reports of some decisions that might be open to question such as awarding a write-in vote for "Christine Rossi" to Gregoire. The margin might well standup, but before we become too critical of those that are suspicious, it's worth noting that there are folks on our side who find 119,000 votes in Ohio an unconvincing margin.
by SLinVA on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 03:41:12 PM EST

Re: If It's 8 Votes (none / 0)

True...BUT my suspicions of 119,000 stem from 1) The machines being supplied by a company whose CEO said he will make sure Bush wins no matter what and 2) the lack of a paper trail to verify the vote.  If the paper trail existed, I would not be happy with the results but I could accept it.  If the GOP is so confident in their positions resonating with the public, what are they so afraid of with including the paper receipt.  
by yitbos96bb on Thu Dec 23, 2004 at 11:22:39 AM EST
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A good-guy Republican (3.00 / 1)

We should acknowledge the courage of the Republican Secretary of State of Washington, Sam Reed, who has come out in favor of counting the 573 ballots. He may well have ended his career by standing up for democracy. More here.
by david blue on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 03:58:06 PM EST

Re: A good-guy Republican (3.00 / 0)

If the GOP doesn't want him, I can think of a party who does.  Control the Secretary of States and you can control the elections.
by yitbos96bb on Thu Dec 23, 2004 at 11:23:47 AM EST
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Supreme Court ruling (none / 0)

The Washington State Supreme Court just ruled that the missing 700-odd ballots in King County should be counted.

This should give Gregoire a somewhat more convincing margin, but the final outcome remains to be seen.

by nocloset on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 04:48:32 PM EST

STATE SUPREME COURT RULES FOR DEMOCRATS (none / 0)

Permanent Defense and NPI report that the state Supreme Court has ruled in the Democrats' favor, allowing King County to count disputed ballots. The Republicans lost the case, and Democrats and voters triumphed.

The court victory is a reversal of a lower court's ruling for the GOP.

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by nwprogressive on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 05:35:20 PM EST

Gregoire already +10 (none / 0)

... even before the 725 wrongly excluded ballots have been counted.  The King County Canvassing Board officially reported a net gain of 59 for Gregoire among the votes tallied before today.

by aretino on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 07:19:28 PM EST

Re: Gregoire already +10 (none / 0)

Gregoire should come out with a 140 vote lead (if the 58%-40% King County average holds for these ballots as well).

It would take a similarly large number of votes in Republican counties to overturn that.

Gregoire has won.  All that's left is the various lawsuits to be fought out.

by Skaje on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 07:59:50 PM EST
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Don't count on these new ballots... (none / 0)

Even though they came from King County, which went heavily for Gregoire in general, they are absentee ballots.  Historically, in King County, absentees have broken far more conservative than votes cast at the polling places.  Most likely, they won't be that much more conservative as to put Rossi back in the lead, but it could happen.  And I wouldn't count on the results padding Gregoire's lead substantially, in any event.

by JDWalley on Thu Dec 23, 2004 at 02:55:36 PM EST
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Good News (none / 0)

One of the few silver-linings to this election season.  But I'll take it.
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by VAprogressive on Wed Dec 22, 2004 at 09:01:26 PM EST

Thrilled about this victory... (3.00 / 0)

But why has there been no discussion, not even a mention of the reason for such a nail biter?

The Lesbian sitting in the middle of the living room: Ruth Bennett-the Libertarian party candidate who siphoned off nearly 100,000(96,000+)  votes. Attacking Gregoire from the left, Bennett criticized Gregoire for not speaking out loudly enough in defense of gay marriage. My Seattle dem friends thought Gregoire ran a somewhat lackluster campaign, but partisan bickering is what led to Bennett's candidacy and ultimately, this squeaker victory.
I gush when I see this behavior on the other side.
I was hoping a pro-life candidate would third party Arlen Specter.
I'm happy there have been so many positive comments about what Gregoire's win means to us, and what hell a Rossi win would have wrought.
Remember this as a cautionary tale when groups and individuals are threatening to bolt if they don't get everything they want.

by xpat on Thu Dec 23, 2004 at 09:27:46 AM EST

Gregoire ran a horrible campaign (none / 0)

From the beginning of this campaign, this race was Chris Gregoire's to lose.  As the front runner who had a double digit lead after the Sept primary, she ran a safe, lackluster campaign.
She played it safe, ran as a centrist and almost blew it.  Ron Sims, Gregoires more progressive opponent in the Democratic primary received over 500 write in votes on Election Day.

Also, the planned negative attacks on Rossi by unions and others did not happen because resources were shifted to try to help Kerry in the swing states.

Gregoire should have won in a landslide in an increasingly Democratic state.
She nearly lost because she failed to energize her base and tried to play to much to the middle.

by raddude on Thu Dec 23, 2004 at 05:55:30 PM EST


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