MyDD Book Club: Don't Think of An Elephant

Tonight's book club discusses George Lakoff's Don't Think of An Elephant. I'll post a summary in the extended entry. People can post their reviews of the entire book or what they thought were the most interesting parts in the comments. Discussion branches off from the reviews / insights.

I find it difficult to write a summary of a book that is already a summary of a series of books. Don’t Think of an Elephant is quite short, and if you have been reading the lefty political blogosphere on a regular basis you have probably already read most of the ideas it contains. I think it took me about two hours, maybe less, to read the entire piece, because I was able to skip large sections when it became clear I had already read them. And I don’t mean I had already read summaries of them—I had actually read that exact order of words before. So, since most people here are probably familiar with the basic premise, I’ll keep the summary short and sweet.

The book is, in short, about the conflict between two mega-frames: the “strict father” frame, which invokes the conservative worldview, and the “nurturant parent” frame, which evokes the progressive worldview. (Personally, I was a little dubious of the nurturant parent frame for the progressive worldview when I first heard about it a few months ago, but after reading the book I feel much more comfortable with it.) These are the two dominant frames within contemporary American politics. In the realm of politics, a “frame” is the political value and idea that is invoked, consciously or unconsciously, by language. In other words, a frame activates a way of thinking about the world that is already present in a person’s mind. As Lakoff writes:

Q: So all I have to do to reframe my issue is think up some sound bit-worthy terms and use them in place of conservative terms? A: No! Reframing is not just about words and language. Reframing is about ideas. The ideas have to be in place in people’s brain’s before the sound bite can make any sense. (p. 105)
A conservative frame evokes the ideas within the strict father world worldview, while a progressive frame evokes the ideas within the nurturant parent worldview. Now, everyone already understands the strict father and nurturant parent worldview, although 35-40% of the electorate is firmly entrenched in the “strict father” worldview and another 35-40% is entrenched in the “nurturant parent” worldview. The side that wins is the side that is best able to evoke their worldview in the remaining 20-30% of the population through proper framing. As I quoted the other day from the Rockridge Institute’s website::
There are clear distinctions between the Nurturant Parent (NP) family and the Strict Father (SF) family. The logic of the models are contradictory, but we all have both models present in the synapses of our brains--either actively or passively.(...)

What determines how we vote is which model is active and dominant for understanding politics at that time.(...)

Our goal is to activate the progressive model in the non-aligned voters. Activation is done through language--by using a consistent language that reflects and activates progressive values. The same language that rallies a base activates the same worldview for those in the middle.

Conservatives have already figured this out. What they have learned about winning elections is that they have to activate the Strict Father model in more than half of the electorate. Fear is a good way to trigger the strict father model, making it active in our minds, because fear reinforces the basic ideas that the world is a dangerous place and that strict discipline is therefore needed for safety.(...)

There is a myth that voters are lined up in a left-to-right line, and that to gain the support of swing voters, you must move to the center. When progressives move to the right, they lose in two ways, setting up a self-defeating double-whammy:

1) Moving to the right alienates your progressive base.
2) It actually helps conservatives because it activates their model in swing voters.

Notice that conservatives do not gain more voters by moving to the Left. What they do is stick to their strict ideology to activate their model in swing voters by being clear and consistent in policies and messages framed in terms of conservative values.

A frame is not spin or propaganda. As Lakoff writes:
Q: The notion of reframing sounds manipulative. How is framing different from spin or propaganda? A: Framing is normal. Every sentence we say is framed in some way. When we say what we believe, we are using frames that we think are relatively accurate [in terms of representing our beliefs]. When a conservative uses the “tax relief” frame, chances are that he or she really believes that taxation is an affliction. However frames can also be used manipulatively. The use, for example, of “Clear Skies Act” to name an act that increases air pollution is a manipulative frame. And its used to cover up a weakness that conservatives have, namely that the public doesn’t like legislation that increases air pollution, and so they give it a name that conveys the opposite frame. That’s pure manipulation.

Spin is the manipulative use of a frame.(…) Propaganda is another manipulative use of framing. Propaganda is an attempt to get the public to adopt a frame that is not true and is known not to be true, for the purpose of gaining or maintaining political control.

The reframing I am suggesting is neither spin nor propaganda. Progressives need to learn to communicate using frames that they really believe, frames that express what their moral views really are.

This is one of the keys to the entire idea of framing: progressives are so weak when it comes to using frames to articulate their beliefs that they do not even know how to talk to themselves about what they believe. We are unable to use short frames to evoke our own ideas, and instead resort to convoluted “hypercognition,” where long descriptions of simple ideas are required to explain our beliefs (read here: Al Gore and John Kerry). Because we have not invested the billions of dollars in think tanks and studies to learn how to talk to each other and evoke our beliefs in short frames, conservatives are far, far superior at framing than are progressives. Because of this, we are unable to evoke our frames in the minds of voters, end up reinforcing the frames of our opponents, and lose because their frame is dominant in the majority of the population.

Lakoff says that we must make the required infrastructure investment in think tanks, books, and language development that are required in order to better evoke our values to ourselves and to the 20-30% of the country that swings from one frame to the other. He notes that right now conservatives are able to invoke their entire worldview in just ten words: Strong Defense, Free Markets, Lower Taxes, Smaller Government and Family Values. However, progressive have a lot of work to do before they can reach that point:

We progressives have a different ten word philosophy, but it won’t be as meaningful yet because it will take us a while to get our values, principles and directions out there. My nomination for a ten word philosophy versus theirs is the following: Stronger America, Better Future, Broad Prosperity, Effective Government, Mutual Responsibility.
He is right—these terms do not have much meaning for us yet, even though terms like “stronger,” “better,” and “future” are definitely progressive. Personally, I’d like to see “free expression” in there somehow, but ten words in not much space. Either way, we must work long and hard before any such ten-word frame can usefully evoke our set of beliefs. Reading Lakoff is a great way to start. Talking to each other is a great way to continue.

Update: I'd like to add my favorite quote from the book, which I beleive is an excellent analyogy for the problems we as Democrats currently face:

The idea of hypercognition comes from a study in Tahiti in the 1950's by the late antrhopologist Bob Levy, who was also a therapist. Levy addressed the questionof why there were so many suicides in Tahiti, and discovered that Tahitians did not have a concept of grief. They felt grief. They experienced it. But they did not have a concept for it or a name for it. They did not see it as a normal emotion. There were no rituals around grief. No grief counseling, nothing like it. They lacked a concept they needed--and ended up committing suicide all too often.
In this analogy, progressives are Tahitians, and our beliefs are grief.

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Good news and bad news (3.00 / 2)

Lakoff gave us good news and bad news. The good news is that liberals and activist Democrats know why their message and issues have not been as well received by the American electorate as the merits would indicate. The bad news is that Lakoff has shown us we have a whole lot of work to do, and the DLC as well as most politicians still don't have a clue.

My review of "Don't Think of an Elephant" begins with the first two myths of the enlightenment.  

[T]he first one goes like this: The truth will set us free. If we just tell people the facts, since people are basically rational beings, they'll all reach the right conclusions.  ...  But we know from cognitive science that  ...  people think in frames. ...To be accepted, the truth must fit people's frames. If the facts do not fit a frame, the frame stays and the facts bounce off.

This is the reason we lose arguments over issues. A vital point in this sentence is that facts bounce off already established frames. Just inventing a new phrase or descriptive word is not sufficient to counter issues that conservatives have already framed. Once a frame is established in the public consciousness the battle is already lost. Primacy is crucial. With their think tanks and media megaphone conservatives frame the issue and win the argument. Before the first liberal is even interviewed on Hardball the battle is lost.

There is another myth that also comes from the Enlightenment ...  It is irrational to go against your self-interest, and therefore a normal person, who is rational, reasons on the basis of self-interest.  ...   [But] people do not necessarily vote in their self-interest. They vote their identity.  They vote their values.  They vote for who they identify with.

This is the reason we lose elections. We present voters with a litany of issues and conservatives give them a narrative that voters can identify with in their personal lives. Large blocs of people still believe in Ronald Reagans welfare queen on food stamps, wearing a fur coat and driving a Cadillac. We run issue oriented ads and they run "Harry and Louise" ads. It's Madison Avenue vs. Your High School Dietician. One of the oldest adages on Madison Avenue is "sell the sizzle, not the steak."  We're trying to explain how healthy our program is and conservatives are selling sizzling concoctions of self-esteem enhancing Viagra.

I'll end with Lakoff's endorsement of think tanks as vehicles for developing and disseminating frames. Not only do conservatives have literally dozens of think tanks, they have media studios right in the institutes. No wonder 80% of taking heads on television are from conservative think tanks. Conservatives understand how lazy modern news presenters are, so they cater to their weakness.

The rest of Lakoff's book is interesting and insightful. It's also useless. Until and unless liberals establish think tanks with built in media studios, conservatives will continue to win the framing game. There are several very smart people engaging in extremely perceptive framing exercises over at Dkos. Jeffrey Feldman has developed a metaphysical "Frameshop" that is itself a brilliant exercise in framing. linked text I was reading a diary parachutec put up on framing, but he took it down because it clashed with a Feldman Frameshop. Until we get people established to do this full time in think tanks, with media studios down the hall, that's all they will be -- exercises.

First, framing is a full time job that requires access to resources to disseminate ideas to the candidates. Think tanks not only train and develop new talent, they can frame any issue on demand. Corporations or special interests can go to think tanks and have their issue or problem analyzed and framed.

We all know that Frank Luntz regularly tests ideas and phrases in focus groups. Does anybody believe Frank Luntz comes up with all the words and phrases to test himself? Very doubtful. It's much more likely that Luntz is just another link in the chain. After a think tank develops a few likely approaches, they hand them off to Luntz for real world reactions from real people.

Second, without a megaphone, all of the brilliant frameshop development in the world will be our little secret. Over at Dkos there is a lot of discussion about how "we" need to frame issues. What matters is how the media frames issues and how the general public perceives those frames. Frames are only effective if they establish the terms of the national dialogue. Where is the liberal megaphone that can compete with talk radio and Faux News?

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:17:34 PM EST

A Wrinkle (none / 0)

Lakoff says that people vote their values and their identity, not their self-interest. I think this is true in one sense, but mistaken in another: Economics is not the only measure of self-interest. People's values and identity determine their self-interest.

When they vote on abortion over a raise in the mininum wage, it may very well be in their self-interest as they define it--"What good's an extra buck-fifty an hour going to do me when I'm roasting in hell?"

I say this not to diminish what Lakoff has to say. Rather, I think it strengthens his basic argument about how important values and identity are.

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:27:34 PM EST
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Re: A Wrinkle (none / 0)

I agree Paul. One problem with economic analysis of behavior is that it assumes people behave like rational economic cogs. If this were the case the advertising industry and the luxury automobile market would both collapse overnight.

Self interest, values and identity combine in a complex interaction that confound simple analysis. That's why serious framing of issues has to be handled by think tanks.

I've wondered about Reagan since I read Lakoff's book. Reagan's private papers demonstrated he was much brighter than liberals gave him credit for, but he wasn't that smart. I believe Peggy Noonan was his primary speech writer and I wondered if she was getting frames developed in think tanks to work from when she wrote her speech. It may be possible that conservative think tanks have known Lakoff's principles in a general way for at least a couple of decades.

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:37:12 PM EST
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Lakoff Didn't Invent Frames (none / 0)

Psychologists, sociologists, advertising experts, even rhetoricians going back to ancient Greece have been aware of framing.

What's new with Lakoff is the cognitive metaphor structure, which is much more specific--and powerful.

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:16:05 PM EST
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Re: Lakoff Didn't Invent Frames (none / 0)

Sure. Framing the issue and cognitive dissonance are two ideas Lakoff incorporates. I think his insight is the stern father and nurturing parent background. His most brilliant achievement was putting the concept into language that liberals would understand and accept.

Here's my very first diary anywhere: Why Democrats still don't get it 9/16/04

I didn't even know how to make page breaks and I confused American Spectator with American Prospect. But I had two links that in broad general terms made the same point Lakoff did.

American Prospect article 9/13/04

David Corn @ Tom Paine

This diary was a couple of days before kos posted what was probably one of the first diaries anywhere about Lakoff's book The best book this cycle 9/19/04

The first response admitted Democrats don't frame the issues very well. Then it was mentioned "we've had a thousand diaries like this". Next I was accused, among other things of calling for the old Democratic circular firing squad.

It went downhill from there. I'm a bum, and Lakoff publishes a little bitty book a few days later saying the same thing and he's a genius.

by Gary Boatwright on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:32:13 AM EST
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Re: A Wrinkle (3.00 / 1)

Ditto that.  People act out of their reality, their perceptions of the world around them.  

Much of what Lakoff says is validated in Gravesian psychology (http://www.clarewgraves.com/theory.html) and in subsequent work by Don Beck and Chris Cowan in their theory, Spiral Dynamics (http://www.spiraldynamics.com/).  In a nutshell, humans follow a pattern of emergence, moving through identifiable levels.  The level any human or society manifests a set of values based on the level at which they operate.  Their level of emergence and operation is in turn a reflection of their perception of the world.

Using Spiral Dynamics as a guide, progressives will note that the right in America has been regressing; the trauma of 9/11 accelerated or boosted what has been a gradual slide backward.  We find ourselves angry because they drag us backward and/or leave a gap in levels between us that we have difficulty spanning.  It's as if they speak a different language now, as frustrating as it is.

We must reconcile ourselves to a challenge, though, in order to bridge that gap and make progess in communications.  According to Ken Wilber's work in transpersonal psychology, higher levels of emergence only grow when they take the lower levels with them.  We must find a way to encourage the regressive element in country to stop this slide and move forward -- framing is only a way to reach them, not the end in itself.

by RayneToday on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:46:03 PM EST
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American Prospect article by Lakoff (none / 0)

This article presents a fairly good summary of Lakoff's ideas. American Prospect  9/01/03 linked text
by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:29:36 PM EST
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Think Tanks (none / 0)

I want to caveat very heavily your point that we need think tanks.  I would say this:

We need think tanks.  We need them a lot.  They are one of the three most important thinks we will have to work on after February 12th.

But we are not lost without them.  This stuff that Jeffrey Feldman does some of, and that Chris does a lot more of -- this is serious thinking.  When I first read Chris's posts on taking "Reform" positions it made a big difference to how I think.  Now I (and I hope thousands of other people who read those posts) think about things in a more clear and persuasive way, integrated under the notion that we must reform: our party, our capital city, their SCLM.  All of it must be taken apart and fixed (or scrapped), and that is the job of Americans who work for reform: that is why we are reform Democrats.

As you point out, the biggest problem that Jeffrey and Chris face in their efforts is not having a big enough megaphone -- but here again blogs are think tanks: doing a better and better job of getting the word out every single month -- that's what mydd, and all of us in the left blogosphere, are doing.  Yesterday Atrios hosted The Majority Report, a radio show heard on 40 radio stations and on countless computers and iPods throughout America, and his first move was to interview Markos and Chris.  Call that a small step or a giant leap.  This is us, slowly getting the word out.

by conchis on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:46:11 PM EST
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Yes, yes, yes!  Don't underestimate the enourmous influence of the Right's think tanks.  This is what all the researchers looking into why the Right is successful are saying.  They exist OUTSIDE of the election process but they greatly influence how we vote - what we understand to be the issues, what we know about the issues (like "Social Security is going broke"), what we accept as underlying values and ideology...

If we examine the Right's network of organizations and what they do and how they work together we can see a framework for developing our own.  But I want to add that one the the reasons for their success is just the quantity as much as the quality.  Number of organizations, quantity of output from them, nuber of operatives they employ, etc...

A Commonweal Institute report on this just came out, focusing on how the right pushes school privatization and written for teacher unions but applicable generally.  It is online here.  It calls for building advocacy/communication think tanks.

An earlier report, describing how the Right is pushing tort reform is available here.

-- Seeing the Forest
by davej on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:15:12 PM EST
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did not take it down. . . (none / 0)

just made more clear that it was not a "frameshop" product.

Here it is.

By the way, as more people read and refer to my stuff, the foreign nature of my screen name seems to make trouble.  Phonics will help with spelling:  POTCH - uh - KOO - tek.

:-]

by Pachacutec on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 08:00:00 PM EST
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Re: Good news and bad news (none / 0)

It is not political genius that makes republican leadership so effective, it is collusion from the media that permits a lack of efficacy and incompetence appear to be virtues.
by gcwall on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 07:23:11 AM EST
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Lakoff & The Right-Wing Power Grab Frame (3.00 / 2)

I've already written a standard review of this book, published in Random Lengths News back in September, and available on Altweeklies.com here. For this discussion, I'm going to focus on just one chapter in the book--Chapter 2, "Enter the Terminator!"-- because it is narrowly focused on the issue of framing elections, and because Democrats are still struggling with framing the 2004 Presidential election. The simple fact that we're still struggling is indicative of the trouble we're in.

More specifically, this chapter brings up the under-developed Democratic frame of the right wing power grab. As Lakoff indicates, this is a potentially powerful frame, which accounts for a great deal that the other frames hide. It is also a frame that's applicable to both the 2000 and the 2004 Presidential elections.

Chris has written a very important diary over at Dkos today about the eruption of flame wars, in which he says, "I still have yet to see anyone point out the obvious: the flame-out yesterday had nothing to do with Ohio. Instead, it only had to do with flames." It's a very good, very important diary. (I say "very good," because the term "great diary" has become almost meaningless. It's more than a great diary. It's a very good one.)  

Yet, without taking away anything from what Chris has written, I want to try to add something more-that there is an aspect of what we're struggling with that we don't yet fully understand, and that this, too, is contributing to the most recent flame wars over what is happening in Ohio. This something is the reality of the rightwing power grab, and the need to come to grips with it, to be willing to struggle with articulating it, and turning it into a powerful, active frame--without getting anywhere near a tin-foil hat.  For me, at least, the sizzly sensationalistic aspects are a distraction from what's hidden in plain sight. But I'll say more about that after I've reviewed what Lakoff says.

Lakoff first lays out a set of frames that dominated coverage of the election. Reading them all in one place leaves me, at least with one impression: it was a miracle that Davis didn't lose by a much larger margin.  Believe me, I know. I live in California. I couldn't escape the onslaught of these frames.

Here are the frames as Lakoff presents them:

Voter Revolt: Gray Davis was such a bad governor that the voters justifiably ousted him and voted in the representative of the other party.
The Great Noncommunicator: Gray Davis governed as well as possible under the circumstances, but was so bad at communicating with the electorate that he could not communicate his real accomplishments, nor could he communicate the role of the Republicans in the state's problems. The public thought Davis was worse than he was, and wanted a communicator, so they voted him out and chose an actor.
Those Kooky Californians: People in California are so weird that they voted a politically inexperienced bodybuilder-actor into office to replace a governor they voted for just last year.
The People Beat the Politicians: When the people win, politics as usual must lose (Schwarzenegger's acceptance speech).
Just a Celebrity: People don't understand politics and just voted for a celebrity.
Up by His Bootstraps: Coming here as an immigrant, Arnie worked and worked to become a champion bodybuilder, then a millionaire actor, and finally achieved his dream-becoming governor.

It is a general finding about frames that if a strongly held frame doesn't fit the facts, the facts will be ignored and the frame will be kept. The frames listed above don't do very well at fitting the facts-though each has a grain of truth. Let's look at the facts that each frame hides.

I will just include one of the frames from the following discussion, because it lays out so much of what was hidden, which will be important below:

The Voter Revolt frame hides the national Republican effort over several years to make Davis look bad by hurting the California economy.
It hides the fact that energy deregulation was brought in by Republican governor Pete Wilson. It ignores the fact that there was no real energy crisis. It resulted from thievery by Enron and other heavy Bush contributors, thievery that was protected by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, run by Bush appointees. The Bush administration looked the other way while California was being bilked and went to great lengths not to help California financially in any of the many ways the federal government can help. Schwarzenegger had had a meeting with Ken Lay and other energy executives in spring 2001 when Lay was promoting deregulation, but denies any complicity in the theft. Schwarzenegger is now promoting energy deregulation again.

It also ignores the fact that California's Republican legislature went out of its way to make Davis look bad, refusing to support reasonable measures for dealing with the budget problems. It ignores the fact that the recall petition was paid for by a wealthy conservative legislator, that signature gatherers were paid handsomely, and that some signatures were from out of state, which is illegal. And it ignores the enormous amount of money and organization put into the Schwarzenegger campaign by Republicans. This was no simple popular revolution. Most of all, the Voter Revolt frame does not explain why Schwarzenegger should have been the candidate chosen.

After discussing, more briefly, the other frames and what they hide, and introducing the Strict Father model, Lakoff continues with his argument that the California Recall was consistent with the overall thrust of conservative politics:

What conservatives have learned about winning elections is that they have to activate the strict father model in more than half the electorate-either by fear or by other means. The September 11 attacks gave the Bush administration a perfect mechanism for winning elections: They declared an unending war on terror. The frame of the "War on Terror" presupposes that the populace should be terrified, and orange alerts and other administration measures and rhetoric keep the terror frame active. Fear and uncertainty then naturally activate the strict father frame in a majority of people, leading the electorate to see politics in conservative terms.

Enter the Terminator: the ultimate in strictness, the tough guy extraordinaire. The world champion bodybuilder is the last word in discipline. What better stereotype for strict father morality?

In addition to more widely recognized problems, Lakoff says, Davis made the mistake of buying into the DLC's marketing approach to campaigns-an approach that not just embraced by the DLC, but also by the vast majority of Beltway Democrats:

Davis made the bad mistake of accepting the Democratic Leadership Council's metaphor of campaigning as marketing. In the DLC model, you look for a list of particular issues that a majority of people, including those on the left, support. In the last congressional election it was prescription drugs, social security, and a woman's right to choose. If necessary, you "move to the right"-adopt some right-wing values in hope of getting
"centrist" voters. Davis, for example, favored the death penalty and tough sentencing, and supported the prison guards' union. It's a self-defeating strategy. Conservatives have been winning elections without moving to the left.

By presenting a laundry list of issues, Davis and other Democrats fail to present a moral vision-a coherent identity with a powerful cultural stereotype-that defines the very identity of the voters they are trying to reach. A list of issues is not a moral vision. Indeed, many Democrats were livid that Schwarzenegger did not run on the issues. He didn't need to. His very being activated the strict father model-the heart of the moral vision of conservative Republicans, and the most common response to fear and uncertainty.

In short, Schwarzenegger's victory is right in line with other conservative Republican victories. Davis's defeat is right in line with other Democratic defeats. Unless the Democrats realize this, they will not learn the lesson of this election.

Remember, Lakoff wrote the original version of this chapter in October, 2003. We had plenty of warning--and we simply chose to ignore it. Lakoff continues:

Indeed, conservatives are busy trying to keep Democrats from learning this lesson. There is an important frame we haven't mentioned yet: the Right-Wing Power Grab frame. Davis used this at the beginning of his campaign, and Clinton and the Democratic presidential candidates who supported Davis echoed the frame. This frame does accurately characterize many of the facts as we have discussed them. But Davis was unable to communicate this frame effectively, and it fell from public sight. The day after the election it was one of the few frames not mentioned by the mainstream media. It has been dropped by the Democrats but kept alive by the Republicans, who are using it to taunt and delegitimize Democrats. They are using the Voter Revolt frame to argue that the Right-Wing Power Grab frame was inaccurate.

Here's how the argument goes: The Right-Wing Power Grab frame implicitly accuses the Schwarzenegger campaign of deception, of failing to admit connections to Karl Rove and the national Republican apparatus, and of misrepresenting the facts- many of which have been discussed previously. A "power grab" is illegitimate, using either illegal or immoral means to attain power. Using some of the frames we have discussed, the Republicans manipulated the media to hide facts and create false impressions. From the perspective of the facts presented previously, the election does seem to fit the Right-Wing Power Grab frame.

In the wake of the election the Republicans have grabbed on to the Democrats' previous use of the Right-Wing Power Grab frame, arguing from the Voter Revolt interpretation of the election to claim that there was no power grab at all, that the election simply expressed the will of the voters. The very fact that Schwarzenegger got a strong plurality-and near majority-in the election is used as prima facie evidence that the Voter Revolt frame is the correct way to interpret the election. But as we have seen, that frame hides the facts that the Right-Wing Power Grab frame illuminates. The Democrats ignore the power of framing at their peril.

It seems quite clear that the Right-Wing Power Grab frame explains a great deal about the California Recall election. It also, quite clearly, explains a great deal about the 2000 Presidential election in Florida. And it explains the interminable "Hunting of the President" by Ken Starr-which stood the normal process of investigation on its head. Instead of investigating a crime and trying to find out who was guilty, Starr investigated a person, and tried to see if he could find-or, if need be, create a crime.

Although Lakoff doesn't discuss this, the Right Wing Power Grab makes perfect sense in Strict Father terms. If conservatives really are so virtuous, and liberals really are so vile, then it makes perfect sense to say that only conservatives deserve to rule, and that virtually anything they do to win is therefore justified.  I believe that this is actually how conservatives think--although not necessarily consciously. Indeed, most ordinary conservatives (voters, not political activists) would probably be quite turned off if they heard it stated openly. "That's how liberals think!" they would say, in a typical act of projection.

It's the very truthfulness of this frame that makes it so powerful and important. There's a reason that Republicans work so hard to pour scorn on it. But a powerful frame -- like anything powerful - needs to be handled with care and respect. The understandable outrage and even hysteria on the part of some upset by the voting irregularities in Ohio needs to be seen in this light. It is precisely because they are right in a deep sense that their ferocity and sometimes grasping at straws can be so frustrating. This is not the direction in which true power lies.  True power lies in going deep, being thorough, and  finding ways of articulating this frame that are not easily turned back against us.

On the other side, those who just don't see the point of all this agitation, given the size of the margin, should remember the OJ Simpson case. Just as it is possible to frame a guilty man, it is also possible to steal an election you have also legally won. In both cases, it is still breaking the law, even if the end result is unchanged. Democrats really do need to wake up and realize that the Right Wing Power Grab is not just a frame that may apply to this or that election, it is an accurate description of the fundamental operating mindset that we are up against, and we must not be shy about expressing it. As more responsible party members take up this frame, and apply it, it will become more possible to calm the hysteria which can otherwise make it easier to discredit. This frame holds great power as well as truth for us. Coming to terms with it-and each other-may well be one of the most important challenge we face in the year ahead. If we meet this challenge in 2005, we may well start turning the corner in the elections of 2006.

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:18:50 PM EST

Re: Lakoff & The Right-Wing Power Grab Frame (none / 0)

I was just as surprised as you were that Davis didn't lose even bigger. The way he shot down Riordan was pure politics and he probably would have won if Arnold hadn't stepped in. I think the reason Davis didn't lose bigger is explained by facts bouncing off frames. Core Democrats stood with Gray regardless of the campaign against him.

I think the reason the right wing power grab frame doesn't work is that the MSM doesn't push it. Conservatives have talk radio and Faux News to push their frames into the public consciousness and the MSM. The general public has absolutely no idea about the details of the Ohio power grab. It's the tree falling in the forest conundrum. If the MSM doesn't report it, it didn't happen.  

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:47:40 PM EST
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Re: Lakoff + The Right-Wing Power Grab Frame (none / 0)

The Right-Wing Power Grab frame doesn't work because we don't understand it ourselve, much less push it.

Neither those pushing the Ohio investigations nor the skeptics understand the power of the frame. Those pushing it are all absorbed in details. Critics also see the details, and don't see them adding up. Neither side really sees the frame.

I must admit, I'm part of the problem. I've been aware of this for some time, and mentioned it here and there. But I've mostly just seen it as inevitable that people are too depressed, hyper, stressed out, etc. to really have this sink in right now.  Maybe that's a cop-out. Maybe I should try harder. I haven't done a diary on it. But, then, my diaries at DKos have all gone nowhere, fast.

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:06:09 PM EST
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Re: Lakoff + The Right-Wing Power Grab Frame (none / 0)

Well, in my original review, I linked to your review, which I thought was very good.  For what it's worth: http://corkedbats.blogspot.com/2004/12/dont-think-of-elephant-consideration.html  No idea why it got nowhere, as you say.
by Garemko on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:41:14 PM EST
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We Happy Few (none / 0)

Eh?
by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:45:16 PM EST
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Re: We Happy Few (none / 0)

If it is true that your diaries on Kos have gone nowhere then I think that is a big shame.  If people do not read your diaries, they should.  

Just being supportive. This always cheers me up: http://homepage.mac.com/jonathanbarlow/.Public/howarddean.mp3

by Garemko on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:56:36 PM EST
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Re: We Happy Few (none / 0)

Well, I haven't done that many of them, and I do have a lot of other things going on. It just seemed to me that getting properly noticed would take a lot more energy than I was prepared to commit.
by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:15:15 AM EST
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Re: We Happy Few (none / 0)

I think you're right. It helps to be active enough that your handle is immediately recognized and accepted. There are so many posts that excellent ones slide off the blogroll before they are noticed. There have been a number of attempts to catch good posts and bring them back up on a buffet type front page diary.

I pretty much gave up even devoting the time to read all of the posts at dkos. I check out the recommended posts once or twice a day, but don't even have time to always do that.

We seem to have a counter problem here at MyDD of not quite having the critical mass to take off the way dkos has, but I like being able to make and respond to diaries at a more leisurely pace. I'm trying to do one quality diary a week and that's an effort. Of course my writing and analytical skills have deteriorated significantly from disuse in the twenty or so years since I utilized them regularly.

by Gary Boatwright on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:58:03 AM EST
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Check out this frame (none / 0)

This is from "The End of the Republican Era" by Theodore Lowi (c) 1996. Lowi quotes from George Will's introduction to his book "Statecraft As Soulcraft":

In a famous opinion in a famous case (one concerning compulsory flag salutes in schools), Justice Felix Frankfurter wrote: "Law is concerned with external behavior and not with the inner life of man."
  I am not sure what Frankfurter meant. I am sure that what he said cannnot be true. The purpose of this book is to say why that proposition is radically wrong.

This is a perfect example of competing frames. Both sides are incomprehensible to the other. Lowi comments:

Even the title of Will's book, Statecraft As Soulcraft, is anathema to genuine liberals, Old or New. Liberals have been slow even to accept the notion fo a "state" and cannot sit comfortably withthe idea of "statecraft". But statecraft as "soulcraft" is beyond liberal conception.

Liberals believe the duty of the state is to govern external behavior. Conservatives believe the duty of the state is to mold the inner life of man. These were the competing frames during Clinton's impeachment hearings.

Of course the "rule of law" has fallen somewhat into disrepair in Republican circles lately, but that's a different diary.

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:32:33 PM EST
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Very Interesting, But Interestingly Wrong, I Think (none / 0)

I think that Lakoff gives us tools to help understand that this is wrong. Liberals don't want to mold people the way conservatives do, but the Nurturant Parent wants to raise future Nurturant Parents--Lakoff says so on several occassions in just so many words. So it follows that liberals want a social and political order that will do the same.

This is a far cry from the conservative micro-managing of the moral inner life. But it is a form of soulcraft, more along the lines of John Cage than Arthur Schoenberg.

The other tool, I would suggest, is the idea of cognitive  developmental levels. At level 3 in Kegan's typology the self is defined/constituted by social roles  and relations. This is the level at which conservative soulcraft works. But level 4 is the natural level at which liberalism flowers. It is a level meta to the conservative level, just as Cage's compositional strategies are meta to the writing of actual sequences of notes.

This is how liberals work--by shaping the larger context to allow more fruitful free expression--not just in speech, but in the living of life (freedom to marry, for example, which began with the rejection of arranged marriages, expanded to the possibility of no-fault, no-stigma divorce, and is now expanding to include gays and lesbians).

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:43:57 PM EST
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Re: Very Interesting, But Interestingly Wrong, (none / 0)

It may be wrong, but it's been successful. I'm not familiar with the Cage, Schoenberg and Kegan references. It sounds like sophisticated developments of Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs, which pretty much stretches the limits of my knowledge in that area. I remember reading a book yeeaars ago called "Gestalt Therapy Verbatim" by Fritz Pearls?  That would be the weightiest reading I've done that's remotely related.

To devolve the discussion down to the lay level, would this be a behavioral distinction between spanking and time out parenting models? One thing that occurs to me is that liberals have a more difficult task of shaping the larger context than conservatives do of appealing to traditional models.

One interesting conservative frame I noticed on Hardball was when he interviewed Falwell. Chris asked Falwell if he made a conscious decision to be bi-sexual. Falwell said yes, of course. Chris asked him how old he was (A. 12-13) and if he could have actually consciously decided to be gay when he was 12. It was the best "hardball" Q&A I've seen Matthews do since his Zell/Malkin interviews.

Falwell got flustered and changed the direction of the conversation and was rescued by a commercial break, but not before he looked like a fool. The necessary "frame" that conservatives must maintain at all costs is that the gay lifestyle is a choice. It's absolutely ridiculous, but they are emotionally incapable of abandoning it.

I also heard a religious conservative mention a conversation he had with Bush 41 about the Equal Rights Amendment. He commented that Bush 41 had "said something absolutely ridiculous about the ERA benefiting families". They are incapable, because of their biblical frame, of even considering the possibility that equal rights for women is a good thing for the family. The paternal family model must be maintained at all costs.

The most interesting thing for me about reading Lakoff's book is that I'm starting to notice frames everywhere I look. In books, on TV and on the radio.

by Gary Boatwright on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:22:26 AM EST
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Re: Very Interesting, But Interestingly Wrong, (none / 0)

Sorry. Cage & Schoenberg are major composers whose approaches to music seemed perfect embodiments of the point I wanted to make. I guess they weren't.  Kegan was a student of Kohlberg's who built on the earlier work of Piaget. But Kegan did consciously strive to account for Maslow and Erickson's work as well.

"One thing that occurs to me is that liberals have a more difficult task of shaping the larger context than conservatives do of appealing to traditional models."

A good deal of that is simply that liberals haven't devoted the resources. Although liberalism is a more natural fit at a higher level of cognitive development, liberalism and conservatism are also a matter of temperament, which is established very early in life. And the models that Lakoff describes certainly have an impact from very early in life. So I think it's an interactive process. The different orientations express themselves better at different levels--just as different plants may grow better at different altitudes, but still be able to grow, regardless of altitude.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 02:18:32 AM EST
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Re: Very Interesting, But Interestingly Wrong, (3.00 / 1)

Isn't part of the perceived lack of organization and framing on the part of liberals inherent in their ability to process complexity?  In other words, liberals haven't needed to simplify complex concepts when speaking with others that operate at the same level.

This may sound condescending, but isn't this in part why adults must deconstruct to simpler elements concepts for children?  It's not that children are stupid; it's that they are not prepared to tackle complex issues on their face without a simple foundation or framework.

Is this not what we need to do as nurturant parents, frame this as we would for those we must nurture?

There is a compounding factor as well; lower levels of operation may be resisting emergence out of fear.  Much of the context that the right builds upon is fear-based.  How does a nurturant parent coax a fearful child to accept and move forward?  We parents do it all the time...how do we expand this scale, without sounding condescending at the same time?

We must also factor in separate subgroups -- extrinsically vs. intrinsically motivated -- since they are influenced by different kinds of fears, regress in different ways.

Lastly, our entire society has changed in only a couple generations in its expectations of communications.  Read FDR's inaugural speeches (http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/P/fr32/) and compare them to those of BushII (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/inaugural-address.html); consider the percentage of the population that listened to each and retained what was said.  Have we liberals regressed as well?

It's no wonder that liberals haven't developed a cogent, unified approach.  It's not linear; it's a matrix.

by RayneToday on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 11:20:13 AM EST
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Right On All Counts! (none / 0)

"Isn't part of the perceived lack of organization and framing on the part of liberals inherent in their ability to process complexity?"

Oh yeah! Tell me about it!

"Is this not what we need to do as nurturant parents, frame this as we would for those we must nurture?"

Precisely!

"There is a compounding factor as well; lower levels of operation may be resisting emergence out of fear."

Precisely!

"It's no wonder that liberals haven't developed a cogent, unified approach.  It's not linear; it's a matrix."

Precisely!

The beauty and power of Lakoff's approach is that he offers a simplified framework for us to operate within. Greater complexity can emerge from the simplicity, of course. But it gives us a shared reference point, and guidence about how to communicated.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:52:51 PM EST
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Review: Frames + Solving Our Economics Problem (3.00 / 0)

The liberal blogosphere has been smitten with George Lakoff's book, Don't Think of an Elephant. Indeed, Lakoff writes with such lucidity and passion that I think it would be fair to place this book in a privileged list of great American political pamphlets. History will determine if my judgment about that is foolish, since it will depend upon how much this book actually influences changes in the future, which I have no way of predicting. But should it come to influence a new progressive movement, I suspect the book will be around for a long time.

A quick synopsis: Lakoff argues that political ideas are not influenced as much by facts as they are by linguistic frames, or ideas invoked by words. Since large social organizations like nations are too big to grasp intimately, humans tend to understand nations as they do smaller social groups, particularly families. These two observations lead him to conclude that ideas about family organization intimately influence our politics.

He argues that there are two main approaches to family politics in America: the strict father approach and the nurturant parent approach. Both of these approaches flow from different values and views about the way the world operates, what it means to be happy, moral and healthy and so on. While all people have elements of both approaches in their private lives, Lakoff's key insight is that dedicated political activists are people who have decided which approach will roughly govern their political views. Liberals are decided nurturant parents. Conservatives are decided strict fathers. Swing voters are thus people who have not decided which family approach they will apply to the political realm. Activating the progressive, nurturant parent frames in them is the key to victory. This is incidentally also the reason why playing to your political base works: you reaffirm the values of your dedicated activists and also frame the debate in a way that sets off those frames in undecided people.

I have not yet seen a review that challenges Lakoff's essential prescription for the Democrats: to activate progressive frames in people who have not decided which set of frames will govern their politics. I am sure there will be more here.

I do not disagree with the idea that we need to fight a linguistic turf war. I do hope, however, that this book does not become something that liberal activists rely upon singularly for answers. It is a springboard.  Lakoff is correct that changing the language is social change of a sort.  Among the hard evidence he provides for this is how our values lead our elites to spend money helping people rather than building party strength, meaning that conservatives win political battles that cause us to participate in the privitization of basic government services.  

Because  I am concerned with on-the-ground issues, I hope that liberal activists do not neglect a sorely needed policy debate. As I have argued before here: http://corkedbats.blogspot.com/2004/11/economics-and-our-difficulties.html, we are facing a crisis on the left that emerged around the end of the Cold War. When communism was widely discredited, the free market right sought to expand their war against "pinkos" to include all government regulation of the economy. "Deregulation" and welfare "reform" were made possible by the uncomfortable position of American liberals, who were very rarely communists, but nonetheless believed in ideals and values supported by socialism as a competing economic system. When this foundation came crumbling down, liberals were in retreat for simply being liberals, whether they were espousing workable economic policy or not (see my discussion of Sweden and The 700 Club here: http://corkedbats.blogspot.com/2004/12/how-to-debate-pat-robertson-case-study.html). The right claimed victory in the Cold War (and we only need to recall the "Reagan won the Cold War" media circle jerk to understand this) and has used it to cheap shot the left to death ever since. And they have done it by claiming falsely that we were too weak or too communist ourselves to stand up against the "obvious" evil of the Soviet system.

Given this recent history, it will take more than simply activating our frames to gain widespread support for liberalism again, so liberals should not be lulled into believing that Lakoff's book is carte blanche to ignore our serious lack of an economic message that makes sense. The global economy has undergone revolutionary change in the last 15 years, particularly with the growth of the internet. Job security in the way our grandparents knew it is a thing of the past. Company loyalty is a thing of the past. Our economy is fast paced. The blue collar world is shrinking. Given these realities, many people view our very frames and our family values as being hopelessly naive. Simply activating these frames will not work, we must also defend them. Over the long term, we cannot sustain ourselves by repackaging protectionism, we just have to find a new way to unlock the potential of ordinary people and care for them in a free market world. Our policies need new ideas, in other words, to assist us in the credible defense of our frames.

I think the place to start is to focus on three values of the new economy: optimism, accountability, and innovation. Republican policies in the face of the information revolution have centered on fear (the Y2K paranoia, war on terror, internet speech crackdowns), secrecy (use of the media to destroy people's belief in the value of a skeptical free press), and crony capitalism (which stunts innovation on the part of fledgling competitors). We do not need to promise jobs, but policy visions that unlock the opportunities inherent in the new world, not foster fear of it (for more fear, go here: http://www.letitblog.com/epic/). Let's rethink education in light of the internet revolution and think about ways to bring people into the bounty. There is so little discussion about the hopeful side of globalization anymore that it is really our opportunity to invent new connections that have truly beneficial effects for regular people.  It is fertile ground to craft a new "Progressive" message and set of ideas in every sense of the word.

We must invoke our frames, but we also must create credibility by understanding basic truths about our economy and the future of it or we will be framing ourselves into a shrinking box in the corner of the room.

by Garemko on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:36:56 PM EST

fascinating, depressing and motivating (none / 0)

Lakoff's book is fascinating because I'd never seen a good explanation of why we lose.
It's depressing because they were kind of brilliant: get the depressed center of the country, the guy whose life is just off-the-tracks, the mom who can't figure out why life isn't like it was in high school- and give them a target for their anger, the scapegoat of liberals. Sorry, but you can't convince me they didn't study the methods of Goebbels and Goering...
However, I am motivated! I can see what we have to do. We need to start an outreach program to those who need it. May I propose:
a) set up 'framing workshops' through Meetups, student groups, unions, etc.
b) send trained 'framers' into Red states- every trainee could commit to a week's time in a Red state 'problem'. We could talk to civic groups, churche discussion groups, etc. Remember, these people hold themselves to be polite and courteous. It's something they're PROUD OF; why not use it to our advantage? Red state Dems can help us with housing and the like. We can also use these trips for 'fact-finding'.
c) Pool our knowledge of the problems we find in a central clearing-house online.

Example: I'm a teacher. I can see myself talking to other teachers and the businesspeople that work with schools, talking about education policies from a 'nurturing' frame.
BUT- I KNOW I'D NEED TRAINING at this; I have a tendency to get angry when faced with stupid people.

by bigdogjunior1963 on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 10:52:57 PM EST

Hard Work (none / 0)

I couldn't resist the temptation. I think I see four steps to framing:
(1) Development
(2) Field Testing (Frank Luntz focus groups)
(3) Furthur Development and Refinement
(4) Distribution and Activation

You're right, it will be very hard and frustrating work. Remember what Lakoff says. They are not stupid people, they just have a different frame and information bounces off; cognitive dissonance at its finest.

That's why we won't be able win the South for decades. The Southern Frame is too well devloped and too deeply entrenched. Our best bet is following Chris' advice -- Go West. We have to put our strongest effort into activating liberal frames where the electorate is most receptive.

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:14:07 PM EST
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Four Guidelines from Lakoff (none / 0)

(1) Show respect
(2)Respond by reframing
(3)Think and talk at the level of values
(4)Say what you believe
by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:52:08 PM EST
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Thanks! (none / 0)

I just wanted to say a personal thank you to Chris for all his great work. This brief summary of Lakoff's work and its importance, does a great job of going to the heart of the matter--which is something that I think Chris does with amazing frequency.

Add that to the fact that we're having this discussion here in the first place, and the way he ended his review... All I can say is, "Hat's Off!"

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:13:01 PM EST

Re: Thanks! (none / 0)

Second this. Thanks Chris.
Witty comment goes here...
by michael in chicago on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:22:08 PM EST
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Re: Thanks! (none / 0)

Third This!!!  Chris thanks for this Book Club.  I only wish I could write half as good as you.
by SRconbio on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:28:09 PM EST
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Re: Thanks! (none / 0)

You are welcome. And by the way Paul, why haven't you reposted your excellent review of the book?
by Chris Bowers on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:32:26 PM EST
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Re: Thanks! (none / 0)

I'm an idiot. I thought your review that you discussed upthread was posted by Paul Goodman. You both use your own names, write great, thoughtful posts, and I just got confused.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:37:10 PM EST
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An A-Pauling Situation! (none / 0)

Getting us confused like that. We're confused enough as it is!
by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:48:12 PM EST
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Re: Thanks! (none / 0)

I just want to add my thanks to Chris and Paul.  This is the best discussion of Lakoff's ideas I've read.  A pleasure.  I'm especially glad that both of you are aware that this book is just a summary of much deeper ideas that underly it.  
by helene on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 03:06:23 AM EST
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Quick observation (none / 0)

As Lakoff points out, part of the recent Republican success rested on a very large number of well funded think tanks that produced, not the frames themselves (though in some cases they did that also), but what I guess you could call frame support.  There are liberal think tanks doing good work, but I suspect most liberals figured that academia could do the job of countering the conservative think tank production.  

In some cases that did happen, and Lakoff's own books are cases in point.  But generally, academic work is written for other academics.  The conservative think tank books were written to and for a more general audience and particularly for conservative activists.  And there really wasn't--or so it seemed to me--equal production on the liberal side.

So, one of the most effective things that could be done for the long run is to eastablish more liberal think tanks, very well funded think tanks, to generate the intellectual work aimed at general audiences that will buttress the ten-word frames.

by Denver on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:14:46 PM EST

Re: Quick observation (none / 0)

I remember reading a feature article in "The Nation" about five or six years ago that addressed the imbalance of think tank and the serious problem it was for liberals. I tried to find it, but their search engine is hopeless.

Hopefully, Lakoff's book will wake some of the liberal fat cats up. I believe the Center for American Progress was set up specifically to begin to address the imbalance, but it's only a small beginning. linked text

by Gary Boatwright on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:47:02 PM EST
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Re: Quick observation (none / 0)

A number of people have brought this up over the years. It's so obvious, but somehow it just never gets taken seriously.
by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:50:43 PM EST
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Re: Quick observation (none / 0)

I believe you may be looking for "$1 Billion for Conservative Ideas" or "Why do Progressive Foundations Give too Little to too Many?"

I have put together a fairly comprehensive collection of what I have found online on this subject at Commonweal's collection of links to articles, reports and resources for learning about the right-wing movement, its history, how it is funded and how it operates

-- Seeing the Forest
by davej on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:31:46 PM EST
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Re: Quick observation (none / 0)

Excellent resources.  Thanks.
by Denver on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:46:33 PM EST
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What can I do? (none / 0)

I do not have millions to fund think tanks.  I do not have money to buy the media outlets.  Writing here is just preaching to the choir.  So what can I do?

The only thing I can do is to write to the editor of my local paper.  In my writings, reframe the word "Conservative" back to it's true meaning: A Conservative is a person who uses the Value Issue to enrich himself and to create a Permanent Privilege Class.

Another thing I can do is to write to the editor of my local paper to sell the liberal values.  I believe the combine 12 word philosophy, of George and Chris "Stronger America, Better Future, Broad Prosperity, Effective Government, Mutual Responsibility, Free Expression" is a good start.

Therefore, I have decided to get one letter a month in my local paper.  I know me by myself this will not do much.  But, there are millions of liberals.  If just a fraction of us makes this commitment, then we will be doing the groundwork for a liberal revival.

by SRconbio on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:25:43 PM EST

Re: What can I do? (none / 0)

An excellent start. I'm actually going to post Lakoff's suggestion of what you can do personally tomorrow. I don't have hte nergy to transcribe it tonight.
by Chris Bowers on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:33:38 PM EST
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Lakoff's Suggestions (none / 0)

  • Progressive values are the best of traditional American values. Stand up for your values with dignity and strength. You are a true patriot because of your values.

  • Remember that right-wing ideologues have convinced half of the country that the strict father family model, which is bad enough for raising children, should govern our national morality and politics. This is the model that the best in American values has defeated over and over again in the course of our history-from the emancipation of the slaves to women's suffrage, Social Security and Medicare, civil rights and voting rights acts, and Brown v. the Board of Education and Roe v. Wade. Each time we have unified our country more behind our finest traditional values.

  • Remember that everybody has both strict and nurturant models, either actively or passively, perhaps active in different parts of their lives. Your job is to activate for politics the nurturant, progressive values already there (perhaps only passively) in your interlocutors.

  • Show respect to the conservatives you are responding to. No one will listen to you if you don't accord them respect. Listen to them. You may disagree strongly with everything that is being said, but you should know what is being said. Be sincere. Avoid cheap shots. What if they don't show you respect? Two wrongs don't make a right. Turn the other cheek and show respect anyway. That takes character and dignity. Show character and dignity.

  • Avoid a shouting match. Remember that the radical right requires a culture war, and shouting is the discourse form of that culture war. Civil discourse is the discourse form of nurturant morality. You win a victory when the discourse turns civil. They win when they get you to shout.

  • What if you have moral outrage? You should have moral outrage. But you can display it with controlled passion. If you lose control, they win.

  • Distinguish between ordinary conservatives and nasty ideologues. Most conservatives are personally nice people, and you want to bring out their niceness and their sense of neighborliness and hospitality.

  • Be calm. Calmness is a sign that you know what you are talking about.

  • Be good-humored. A good-natured sense of humor shows you are comfortable with yourself.

  • Hold your ground. Always be on the offense. Never go on defense. Never whine or complain. Never act like a victim. Never plead. Avoid the language of weakness, for example, rising intonations on statements. Your voice should be steady. Your body and voice should show optimism. You should convey passionate conviction without losing control.

  • Conservatives have parodied liberals as weak, angry (hence not in control of their emotions), weak-minded, softhearted, unpatriotic, uninformed, and elitist. Don't give them any opportunities to stereotype you in any of these ways. Expect these stereotypes, and deal with them when they come up.

  • By the way you conduct yourself, show strength, calmness, and control; an ability to reason; a sense of realism; love of country; a command of the basic facts; and a sense of being an equal, not a superior. At the very least you want your audience to think of you with respect, as someone they may disagree with but who they have to take seriously. In many situations this is  the best you can hope for. You have to recognize those situations and realize that a draw with dignity is a victory in the game of being taken seriously.

  • Many conversations are ongoing. In an ongoing conversation, your job is to establish a position of respect and dignity, and then keep it.

  • Don't expect to convert staunch conservatives.

  • You can make considerable progress with biconceptuals, those who use both models but in different parts of their life. They are your best audience. Your job is to capture territory of the mind. With biconceptuals your goal is to find out, if you can by probing, just which parts of their life they are nurturant about. For example, ask who they care about the most, what responsibilities they feel they have to those they care about, and how they carry out those responsibilities. This should activate their nurturant models as much as possible. Then, while the nurturant model is active for them, try linking it to politics. For example, if they are nurturant at home but strict in business, talk about the home and family and how they relate to political issues. Example: Real family values mean that your parents, as they age, don't have to sell their home or mortgage their future to pay for health care or the medications they need.

  • Avoid the usual mistakes. Remember, don't just negate the other person's claims; reframe. The facts unframed will not set you free. You cannot win just be stating the true facts and showing that they contradict your opponent's claims. Frames trump facts. His frames will stay and the facts will bounce off. Always reframe.

  • If you remember nothing else about framing, remember this: Once your frame is accepted into the discourse, everything you say is just common sense. Why? Because that's what common sense is: reasoning within a commonplace, accepted frame.

  • Never answer a question framed from your opponent's point of view. Always reframe the question to fit your values and your frames. This may make you uncomfortable, since normal discourse styles require you to directly answer questions posed. That is a trap. Practice changing frames.

  • Be sincere. Use frames you really believe in, based on values you really hold.

  • A useful thing to do is to use rhetorical questions: Wouldn't it be better if . . . ? Such a question should be chosen to presuppose your frame. Example: Wouldn't it be better if we had a president who went to war with a plan to secure the peace?

  • Stay away from set-ups. Fox News shows and other rabidly conservative shows try to put you in an impossible situation, where a conservative host sets the frame and insists on it, where you don't control the floor, can't present your case, and are not accorded enough respect to be taken seriously. If the game is fixed, don't play.

  • Tell a story. Find stories where your frame is built into the story. Build up a stock of effective stories.

  • Always start with values, preferably values all Americans share like security, prosperity, opportunity, freedom, and so on. Pick the values most relevant to the frame you want to shift to. Try to win the argument at the values level. Pick a frame where your position exemplifies a value everyone holds-like fairness. Example: Suppose someone argues against a form of universal health care. If people don't have health care, he argues, it's their own fault. They're not working hard enough or not managing their money properly. We shouldn't have to pay for their lack of initiative or their financial mismanagement. Frame shift: Most of the forty million people who can't afford health care work full-time at essential jobs that cannot pay enough to get them health care. Yet these working people support the lifestyles of the top three-quarters of our population. Some forty million people have to do those hard jobs- or you don't have your lifestyle. America promises a decent standard of living in return for hard work. These workers have earned their health care by doing essential jobs to support the economy. There is money in the economy to pay them. Tax credits are the easiest mechanism. Their health care would be covered by having the top 2 percent pay the same taxes they used to pay. It's only fair that the wealthy pay for their own lifestyles, and that people who provide those lifestyles get paid fairly for it.

  • Be prepared. You should be able to recognize the basic frames that conservatives use, and you should prepare frames to shift to. The Rockridge Institute Web site (www.rockridgeinstitute.org) will post examples from time to time. Example: Your opponent says, We should get rid of taxes. People know how to spend their money better than the government. Reframe: "The government has made very wise investments with taxpayer money. Our interstate highway system, for example. You couldn't build a highway with your tax refund. The government built them. Or the Internet, paid for by taxpayer investment. You could not make your own Internet. Most of our scientific advances have been made through funding from the National Science Foundation and the National Institute of Health- great government investments of taxpayer money. No matter how wisely you spent your own money, you'd never get those scientific and medical breakthroughs. And how far would you get hiring your own army with your tax refund?

  • Use wedge issues, cases where your opponent will violate some belief he holds no matter what he says. Example: Suppose he brings up abortion. Raise the issue of military rape treatment. Women soldiers who are raped (by our own soldiers, in Iraq, or on military bases) and who subsequently get pregnant presently cannot end their pregnancies in a military hospital, because abortions are not permitted there. A Military Rape Treatment Act would allow our raped women soldiers to be treated in military hospitals to end their rapeinduced pregnancies. The wedge: If he agrees, he sanctions abortion, in government-supported facilities no less, where doctors would have to be trained and facilities provided for terminating pregnancies. If he disagrees, he dishonors our women soldiers who are putting their lives on the line for him. To the women it is like being raped twice-once by a criminal soldier and once by a self-righteous conservative.

  • An opponent may be disingenuous if his real goal isn't what he says his goal is. Politely point out the real goal, then reframe. Example: Suppose he starts touting smaller government. Point out that conservatives don't really want smaller government. They don't want to eliminate the military, or the FBI, or the Treasury and Commerce Departments, or the nine-tenths of the courts that support corporate law. It is big government that they like. What they really want to do away with is social programs -programs that invest in people, to help people to help themselves. Such a position contradicts the values the country was founded on-the idea of a community where people pull together to help each other. From John Winthrop on, that is what our nation has stood for.

  • Your opponent may use language that means the opposite of what he says, called Orwellian language. Realize that he is weak on this issue. Use language that accurately describes what he's talking about to frame the discussion your way. Example: Suppose he cites the "Healthy Forests Initiative" as a balanced approach to the environment. Point out that it should be called "No Tree Left Behind" because it permits and promotes clear-cutting, which is destructive to forests and other living things in the forest habitat. Use the name to point out that the public likes forests, doesn't want them clear-cut, and that the use of the phony name shows weakness on the issue. Most people want to preserve the grandeur of America, not destroy it.

  • Remember once more that our goal is to unite our country behind our values, the best of traditional American values. Right-wing ideologues need to divide our country via a nasty cultural civil war. They need discord and shouting and name-calling and put-downs. We win with civil discourse and respectful cooperative conversation. Why? Because it is an instance of the nurturant model at the level of communication, and our job is to evoke and maintain the nurturant model.

Those are a lot of guidelines. But there are only four really important ones:  

Show respect
Respond by reframing
Think and talk at the level of values
Say what you believe  

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:05:17 AM EST
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a couple of caveats (none / 0)

These suggestions are great for real interactions among people having conversations.  Peruasion is a longer term recruitment process, predicated on trust and respect.

However, this is not a formula for interactions that are meant to send messages to a wider audience.  

Being reasonable, respectful and non-provocative on media shows or as a powerless opposition party in both houses of Congress is a way to lose.  Bob Dylan has a great line from a song that applies:  let's not "teach peace to the conquered," eh?

In some circumstances, when the goal is not to presuade the people in front of you but to play to an audience, then hardball rhetoric and tactics are in order.   That's when you have to seize the opportunity to create awareness, get our frames out there, activate your base and provoke others who may initially oppose you to doubt.

Let's not be "nurturant" all the time.  If we remain too squeamish to fight, we can continue to enjoy our lives in loserville, and see our ideals trampled underfoot.

by Pachacutec on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 08:40:06 PM EST
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Re: a couple of caveats (none / 0)

Very good points.

But I would say be nurturant all the time. See, I'm a smart aleck from way back. I love a good argument. I can be confrontational. But I can also turn on a dime. I really try to stay connected to the optomism and generosity that motivates me. I can be wicked, but not nasty. At least that's my aim.

This can seem like a delicate balance. But really, it's the core animating philosophy of most of the martial arts. If you settle into the space of combat it is not a narrow place at all, nor is it really about combat. It is about flow, centeredness, connectedness.  And the ultimate way to defeat your enemy utterly is to make them your friend.

At least that's what my Aikido black-belt sister told me! <g>.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 08:50:30 PM EST
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yes, and. . . (none / 0)

for the great army of activists we hope to unleash with the right tools and frames to set them up for success, I just want to make the distinctions clear.

I'm a business man, a shrink, an expert on desigining and running corporate reorganizations and change campaigns, and an expert in negotiation, so the stuff you're talking about - I get it.  I use different labels, cognitively, but we're talking about the same stuff.

I just thought the points above were worth saying for the sake of clarity.

by Pachacutec on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 09:11:13 PM EST
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Fair point (none / 0)

And a letter a month that shows up in a local paper is damn good.

But frames get spread in all sorts of ways.  Talk radio has been recently frame central for conservatives.  And from talk radio they go to the workplace, the church, the hamburger place in the strip mall.

Letters to the editor are good.  So are effectively framed (and rhetorically skillful) comments to non-choir friends, coworkers, acquaintances.

The millionaires have their scope of operation.  And the rest of us have ours.

Will that work, at least in part?

by Denver on Wed Dec 15, 2004 at 11:38:51 PM EST
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Cross link to Dkos Diary with Lakoff links (none / 0)

I posted an invitation to Book Club over at Dkos and one of the posters linked to his blog with about thirty links to framing discussions. The cross link to a list of links to Science and Politics  linked text

Here's an example of a framing discussion of  Rush Limbaugh  and one on Two Americas linked text because I'm experimenting with links and may get it wrong.

by Gary Boatwright on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:13:59 AM EST

Uggghhh, the left/right, one dimensional trap (3.00 / 1)

Let me skip past what I like about Lakoff's ideas and this book, to talk about something I don't since it hit a nerve.  

One thing that is really bothering me lately is reduction of American politics to a one dimensional left/right (Liberal <-> Conservative) spectrum.  Here, left is liberal and right is conservative and everyone is reduced to being somewhere on this single axis.  Two important dimensions are excluded -
an axis for Elitism <-> Populism and an axis for Authoritarian <-> Libertarian.

For some more info on this see
http://progressiveliving.org/graphics/TRUE_POLITICAL_SPECTRUM.htm
and
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
the first one mentions but doesn't graph Authoritarion/Libertarian and the second one doesn't mention Elitism/Populism which I think is really import these days.)

Once you have Elitism/Populism dimension in mind you realize a couple of things.  The media is Elitist more than it is Liberal or Conservative.  Elitists like to use the faulty one dimensional framing to make more populist candidates appear as extreme left or right.

Anyway with these extra dimensions mind, think about Lakoff's metaframing, that is the strict father versus the nurturant parent.  First off, he falls prey to the one dimensional left/right problem.  Also, his two frames share one thing in common, they are both parents.  This seems problematic to me, since either the government should be thought of as the offspring of the people rather than a parent or maybe the whole parent/child framing is flawed.  For contrast, consider a master/servant (or boss/employee) metaframing.  Cons and Neocons would have government (and Capitalists) as master and people it's servant and progressive populists and left-libertarians would have people as master and government as servant.

So while Lakoff's nurturant parent may be less authoritarian than the strict father it still falls onto the authoritarian side of the spectrum.  Similary, it fails to promote a pro-populist framing which is very much needed; the result is too much elitist.  While a nurturant parent frame has it's good points, it really lacking in some ways.  Without populist and anti-authoritarian politics the opposition to conservatives are just elitists, sissy liberals without guts or backbone.  I just don't think it's the best possible frame for progressives.  Whereas, the strict father is more on target for conservatism.  Also, the left/right framing itself is bad for progressives.  I think a better us vs. them would be people versus the elites and the people verusus illegitimate authority.

by RedStateIndie137 on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:37:26 AM EST

Re: Uggghhh, the left/right, one dimensional trap (none / 0)

I understand your frustration, but you seem to misunderstand the nature of what Lakoff is doing. It's not like he's making this stuff up.  He's a cognitive scientist. He is reporting what he has observed and how it fits together. He is not an engineer saying "this is how we should put it together.

That said, he has a way of talking about the issues you raise:

Every progressive political program is based on one or more of these values. That is what it means to be a progressive. There are several types of progressives. How many types? I am asking as a cognitive scientist, not as a sociologist or a political scientist.

From the point of view of a cognitive scientist, who looks at modes of thought, there are six basic types of progressives, each with a distinct mode of thought. They share all the progressive values, but are distinguished by some differences.

  1. Socioeconomic progressives think that everything is a matter of money and class and that all  solutions are ultimately economic and social class solutions.

  2. Identity politics progressives say it is time for their oppressed group to get its share now.

  3. Environmentalists think in terms of sustainability of the earth, the sacredness of the earth, and the protection of native peoples.

  4. Civil liberties progressives want to maintain freedoms against threats to freedom.

  5. Spiritual progressives have a nurturant form of religion or spirituality, their spiritual experience has to do with their connection to other people and the world, and their spiritual practice has to do with service to other people and to their community. Spiritual progressives span the full range from Catholics and Protestants to Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Goddess worshippers, and pagan members of Wicca.

  6. Antiauthoritarians say there are all sorts of illegitimate forms of authority out there and we have to fight them, whether they are big corporations or anyone else.

All six types are examples of nurturant parent morality. The problem is that many of the people who have one of these modes of thought do not recognize that theirs is just one special case of something more general, and do not see the unity in all the types of progressives. They often think that theirs is the only way to be a true progressive. That is sad. It keeps people who share progressive values from coming together. We have to get past that harmful idea. The other side did.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:09:20 AM EST
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unifies? (none / 0)

I guess I disagree that the nurturant parent frame unifies these different progressives.  I also don't really see any science behind the claim either.
by RedStateIndie137 on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 11:07:51 AM EST
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Re: unifies? (none / 0)

To see the science, first you need to read Metaphors We Live By, which introduces the coherence, systematicity, and pervasiveness of cognitive metaphor. If you don't get that, then the rest of what Lakoff does can seem pretty arbitrary and unscientific.

But it's a very basic book. It was written at the very beginning of Lakoff's work on cognitive metaphor.

To see the true power of this approach deployed on a technical subject, you should read Where Mathematics Comes From
Where Mathematics Comes From:
How the Embodied Mind Brings Mathematics into Being
, co-authored with Rafael E. Núñez.  As the subject matter indicates, cognitive metaphor is a structure more basic than language. It's a mapping of concepts,  entities, relationships, etc. rather than words.

Then, to understand the cognitive science behind the Nurturant Parent/Strict Father models, you need to read Moral Politics. This is where he goes through explaining the entailments that come from his more general model and the specific subject matter of politics.

So, I'm not asking you to take this on faith. Neither is Lakoff. All he is trying to do in this book is share the results of his research, and how they relate to other people's work. He is not trying to explain the why. His other books do that.

As to how NP unified the various manifestations, I think that question answers itself if you read Moral Politics first.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:10:37 PM EST
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Re: unifies? (none / 0)

I was definitely dissatified with Don't Think of an Elephant when I first read it.  Since then, I've picked up Moral Politics and a majority of my problems went away.  Elephant is the distilation of a large amount of research that Lakoff has done and I think it suffers dramatically without prior knowledge of the research.

Of course, that could just be my liberalness coming out in my dislike for simple answers and being told things without explanation.  :-)  

If you feel like a majority of what Lakoff talks about in Elephant is not substantiated well enough, pick up a copy of Moral Politics.

jesse

by crimsonc on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 05:50:40 PM EST
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Not Just Your Liberalness (none / 0)

Also your literacy.

Although the internet has revived reading & writing in a way, this does not make for a revival of sustained reading of long texts.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 08:42:46 PM EST
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Re: unifies? (none / 0)

ok, thanks.
I'll look into it more.
I did get the sense that this book was sort of thrown together to introduce these ideas and Moral Politics would probably be a more thorough and analytical approach.  With just the little info I have so far, it just seems like something along the lines of The Tao of Physics (or some unprovable religious belief) where given the right state of mind it all seems true the way a cloud looks like an animal or a face if you want it to.  Look, see the strict-father, see the nurturant parent. :)

Part of what makes it hard to digest given what I know at the moment is when I look back at progressive populist history I see what appears to be similar framing to what the right is using today.  I wouldn't necessarily call it all strict-father but there seems to be some common anti-elitist framing.  So the same framing has been used for opposing sides at different times.  This seems to contradict his thesis where one frame is inherently left and another is inherently right.

One thing I didn't get around to explicitly stating was that giving the different dimensions, there are different ways of drawing the line between "us" and "them".  Why go with left vs. right, instead of populists vs. elitists, or anti-authoritarian vs. authoritarian?  I feel that the left/right framing (including Lakoff's) may be a bad choice.  This may unify progressive-populists and left-libertarians with elite liberals, but is that really better for populists and anti-authoritarians than framing that unifies populists and anti-authoritarians across the left/right line?  I am not quick to accept that, but that might have more to do with my opinion of the leadership in the Democratic party for the past couple of decades than Lakoff's ideas.  Maybe his ideas would bring these different progressives together and we could get stronger progressive candidates from the Democrats (and not just Greens and occasionally indies), instead of centrists like Clinton.  I did like how Lakoff opposed moving to the center.  Still I am leary of any left/right oriented framing as long as elitists dominate both sides.  Ideally for me the opposition party would oppose conservatives in all dimensions by being progressives, populists, left-libertarians.

by RedStateIndie137 on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 11:36:39 AM EST
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Frame Fads (none / 0)

I haven't read Lakoff's book but I've read plenty about it on these sites. I feel like we're getting caught up in a fad and also assuming this role identification thing: Strong Father/ Nurturant Parent frames are somehow permanent.

Can't we change these or are these always fixed as the model for politics/candidates? Throughout history have republicans been the strong fathers? Or does it depend on the candidate?

Also, I thought with kerry we tried to frame him as a war hero/strong father type but they shot holes in that. And certainly Bush with his DUIs etc. isn't exactly my model of a strong father. So what makes frames not fall apart, or how can we make the repugs frame fall apart?

by slammers on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 12:59:57 AM EST

Re: Frame Fads (none / 0)

I know how it must look to you. But I reviewed Moral Politics eight years ago, and first read a book by him about seven years before that. So from where I sit, it's "at long last!"

You really do need to read Lakoff himself. This is a very short, very cheap book.

"Can't we change these or are these always fixed as the model for politics/candidates?"

They aren't models for candidates. Of course there's increased power when a candidate embodies the model--as Lakoff notes about Schwartzenneger in a passage I quote. But this is a relatively superficial bonus.  It's really about how positions on issues are determined in a coherent fashion, and how language reflects and reinforces that coherence.

"Also, I thought with kerry we tried to frame him as a war hero/strong father type but they shot holes in that. And certainly Bush with his DUIs etc. isn't exactly my model of a strong father. So what makes frames not fall apart, or how can we make the repugs frame fall apart?"

One reason that this worked out this way is that it was supported by the Strict Father/Nurturant Parent dichotomy. As Lakoff observes, the facts that don't fit the frame just bounce off. So Bush's numerous failings just didn't register. Of course, they also weren't pressed very hard. If they had been, they could have made a difference, but even so it wouldn't have done much with Bush's base.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:21:55 AM EST
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Lakoff is a distraction. (none / 0)

The only thing I understand better, now that I've read Lakoff's book on Framing, is why so many say they don't see how to put it to work. I think they're right: we can't. For one thing, what he calls 'framing' has little to do with anything recognizable as frame analysis as it has been understood within social science for decades. That's too bad, because understanding the real stuff might be helpful. For a discussion of frame analysis, go to Frame Analysis: A Primer, by Thomas Koenig, on the web. This piece begins with Goffman's formulation, in which frames are ubiquitous and tacit: "I assume that definitions of a situation are built up in accordance with principles of organization which govern events [...] and our subjective involvement in them; frame is the word I use to refer to such of these basic elements as I am able to identify." (Goffman 1974, 10f) Todd Gitlin (1980, 6) put it this way: "Frames are principles of selection, emphasis and presentation composed of little tacit theories about what exists, what happens, and what matters." For instance, if you glance at a line of people standing at the curb, you might at once understand the scene as a bus queue. Frames provice a kind of nonlinguistic semantics, or better, pragmatics: it's about the 'meanings' of social and environmental features, rather than of words and phrases. It is only in media studies that this term has been used to refer to conscious awareness and selection or manipulation of attributes or cues as 'framing'. Fair enough, if it leads to anything useful. But how is what Lakoff offers different from any other approach to rhetorical persuasion, propaganda, or other forms of manipulative communication, such as metaphor? As I see it, there is nothing original to credit Lakoff with in all this. Even the first light-bulb in his head (the Family Metaphor) was switched on by a student paper. (He never mentions the student's name, of course. If anybody has his earlier book handy, please look and see if the student is credited by name there.) If you want a nice example of Goffman-style framing, I would suggest Bush's appearances wearing complete or partial uniforms. Compare Eisenhower. So, what difference does it make what Goffman and Gitlin said? They are disciplined readers, thinkers, and writers. Lakoff isn't.

On to the Family, the Strict Father. Here too there is a respectable literature that is never mentioned by Lakoff. I think everybody who's interested in politics and culture in America and Canada should read Bob Altemeyer's book 'The Authoritarian Spectre'. He's a social psychologist who has worked hard for about 25 years on authoritarianism. He writes well too. His work is a rich resource on this whole area, the closest thing to a psychological roadmap of authoritarian thinking, and he too implicates the dominating father in the transmission of authoritarianism from one generation to the next. But there's much more to be learned from his work.

As I plodded onward through Lakoff's book, it became clear that really all he means by framing is the deliberate, systematic use of metaphor and other rhetorical devices. It's all at the level of ordinary advertising. I haven't looked at any of Lakoff's linguistic work for decades, but I had to laugh when I saw Chapter 4. It was the same kind of compost heap that one found in his old Generative Semantics phase, with no attention paid now or then to how one actually gets from the
surface to the inside, from raw perceptions to webs of particular mental events, without just pulling it out of one's -- well, just making it up. Tossing a few neuroscience terms onto the heap is not going to do it. Chapter 4 is pretty embarrassing. I don't see us winning an election that way.

by Guatemala Jack on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:33:07 AM EST

Re: Lakoff is a distraction. (none / 0)

"It was the same kind of compost heap that one found in his old Generative Semantics phase,"

I have to hand it to you, you sure know how to nurse a grudge for what, three decades? Funny that you haven't read any of his more rigorous books, only the most intentionally popular one intended for the broadest possible mass audience.

I can't for the life of me figure out why you would brung up Goffman's classic work only to admit that yes, there are other uses of the term.

"It is only in media studies that this term has been used to refer to conscious awareness and selection or manipulation of attributes or cues as 'framing'."

Oh?

Google searches:

  • about 48,100 framing "media studies"
  • 829 for framing "media studies" selection attributes.
  • about 103,000 framing "cognitive science"
  • about 13,600 for framing "cognitive science" selection attributes.

Guess not.

And what's with the either/or opposing of Altemeyer and Lakoff? Altemeyer a very generous dude. He very graciously acknowledged that SDO (social dominance orientation) was an even more intense of authoritarian influence than RWA. And Lakoff's work fits very neatly into the larger framework of Social Dominance Theory as an explanation of how legitimating myths are organized.

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 02:37:35 AM EST
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Re: Lakoff is a distraction. (none / 0)

Ah.  You said a mouthful right here:

"It's all at the level of ordinary advertising."

Look at the crappy ads that liberals used during the campaign!  They were crappy because we simply don't get marketing and advertising to the key market!

We -- the folks on the left -- aren't the target market!

I mentioned this in early 2003 in a forum at The Well, that it's not as if we don't have the knowledge of what's to be done.  We need to do it: identify the market, build appropriate marketing plan, implement.  We're stuck on the first two steps!

by RayneToday on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 01:46:24 PM EST
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Re: Lakoff is a distraction. (none / 0)

Yes, Rayne, I agree.  Lakoff's insights are useful - particularly to the non-linguists among us :-) - but to what end will we use them?  Marketing and Sales, as practiced by the entities that really know how to win people's hearts and minds AND influence behavior (Coke, Nike, et al.) is really what is needed by the left.  There's a whole body of knowledge that already exists, in easily-used form, that would get the ball rolling.

by Hillary Rettig on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 08:51:29 PM EST
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Sales a key issue (none / 0)

Thanks, Hillary.  This was a fatal problem with Dean's primary run; they oversold the base and failed to identify and sell to the target market inside an adequate period of time.

That's a bit simplistic, but that's where the wheels came off.  Dean's base has a strong overlap with that of MoveOn; they are highly wired communities and are folks who are relatively new to political activism.  They were already very sold on Dean; using more dollars in their venue of choice would not increase yield.

The demographic that votes most reliably and most frequently is that which is least likely to be wired -- folks over 50.  This segment relies heavily on broadcast media. (There are so many studies that document this very point - UCLA Center for Communication Policy and Pew Internet and American Life reports, to name a few preeminent resources).  For this reason a substantive chunk of marketing resources should have been allocated earlier to this group.  

This same group is also likely to need more care in framing the message; they are less likely to be skeptical about messages received from corporate media than younger or more wired demographics.  This again indicates a need for more marketing resources.

by RayneToday on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 10:07:01 PM EST
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Re: Sales a key issue (none / 0)

What I heard specifically about Dean's campaign in Iowa (on NPR, I think) was this:  that they sent legions of pierced, punky (grungy?), AND under-rehearsed young people to make house calls to legions of rather conservative older people, and that there was a culture clash from the outset.  (I would love to hear more details from someone on the scene.)

From a sales perspective, this is ludicrously ineffective, and Lakoff mirrors this point when he says you need to show "respect" for your audience.  Respect means dressing in a way that doesn't alienate the person and doesn't demean the event.  I'm as pro-self-expression as the next person but if you have a sales job you need to look the part.  (First impressions, ya know.)  if I were going to visit elderly voters in Iowa, I would have adopted native dress, even if it is a beige polyester pantsuit.  

Hill

by Hillary Rettig on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 10:13:04 AM EST
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Re: Sales a key issue (none / 0)

>>they oversold the base and failed to identify >>and sell to the target market inside an >>adequate period of time.

Absolutely.  And Todd Gitlin nails this as he does so many things.  (Letters to a Young Activist for a future book club?)  Here's an excerpt from an article I wrote:

"Too many activists spend too much of their time talking to each other, when they should be out talking to their audience. Todd Gitlin calls this phenomenon the echo chamber, and everything is very nice in the echo chamber because you're basically surrounded by people who think the way you do, and think you're wonderful for thinking that way.

"It's a lot harder outside the echo chamber, where you risk running into people who--gasp--disagree with you. But that's where activists should spend a lot of their time. That's where the work is done; that's where you engage your audience (and the opposition); that's where social progress is effected."

by Hillary Rettig on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 10:15:08 AM EST
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Sales Matters, But First,... (none / 0)

First you need to get the base to understand itself. Because it's not primarily about sales. It's primarily about knowing who you are, and why you are who you are. It's only after you know that that you will know what you are trying to sell.

I can't stess enough how important this is, especially because people are the left are so smart. We just love to go on and on doing all this nuance & shit. I know. I'm as bad as or worse than anyone else. So we have to get this framing stuff down--not instead of doing the nuance, but in parallel with it. Once we've done this sufficiently, only then will we really be ready to market effectively, and not have it just be good manipulation, or spin.

by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 02:55:24 AM EST
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Re: Sales Matters, But First,... (none / 0)

Absolutely, Paul.  I would call the activities you describe "market research" and "market planning".  In my entrepreneurship classes I use the metaphor of an iceberg:  9/10 of every successful sale is the marketing that went on prior to, or underlying, the final sales transaction.

Marketing is what brings the soccer mom to the Volvo dealership because she knows she will get a safe family car.  The Volvo salesman doesn't have to sell her on Volvos, or even on the importance of safety, she's already there thanks to Volvo's international marketing campaign.  He only has to finalize the transaction, which is a much easier task.  

The main point is, all of these things - market strategy, market research, sales - have all been studied for thousands of years.  We KNOW how to do these things; we have entire colleges devoted to them.  All the left has to do is recognize the importance of these things and then embrace them *enthusiastically.*  this will be difficult for some people who have a reflexive (somewhat naive, in my view) anti-business attitude, but I believe it is absolutely an important part of what the left needs to do.

by Hillary Rettig on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 10:21:33 AM EST
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I Agree, But (none / 0)

It's not that simple. We're not just talking about market research and market planning, important as those are. In working through what those frames are and what they mean, we are actually doing product desiign as well. There needs to be a solid connection between these two aspects, which I think is even more daunting than the challenge you point to.

Conservatives don't have this problem. They have no interest in policies that work. That's why, as Suskind reported, Bush has no domestic policy apparatus. It's all spin. All sales. All marketing. But we're interested in actually making things work--as well as negotiating what we want to do, and how the different pieces fit together...all in addition to the marketing challenge you point out.

It can be done. But instead of focusing on this multi-faceted task, what are the Dems focused on? Ignoring Ohio and preventing Dean from becoming DNC chair.

Good Lord!  It's amazing we ever win anything with internal priorities like these.

by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 01:36:16 PM EST
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Re: I Agree, But (none / 0)

Yes, Paul, product design IS part of market strategy.  In my classes, I teach that marketing has three steps:

  1.  understanding who your customer is (profiling, demographics, surveys).  you can never do enough of this (picture Sam Walton hanging out at WalMarts and talking to people even as an elderly billionaire).

  2.  recreating (repackaging) your product to fit an urgent customer need (if it ain't urgent, the customer won't buy).  this includes every aspect of the product, including the intangibles, your salespeople's approach, and also your distribution.

  3.  bringing customer and product together via a marketing plan (ads, pr, etc.)

Also, you need to hit a bullseye.  If the product or plan are even 10% off from being exactly what the customer needs, you'll see a dramatic drop in sales.

Most of the reason people fail to execute properly on these steps is ego.

I think we fundamentally agree, we're talking semantics here.

Hill

by Hillary Rettig on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 02:58:32 PM EST
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I Agree, And (none / 0)

"I think we fundamentally agree, we're talking semantics here."

Agreed. That's what dialogue is for. You're talking about an integrated iterative process & that's exactly what's called for.

Ironically, this is exactly in tune with Nurturant Parent values and totally opposed to Strict Father values. We should totally be able to do this stuff in our sleep.

by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 07:47:49 PM EST
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It's the SALES, people! (none / 0)

Lakoff's book is valuable but it is not the end-point we should be looking towards.  What the left needs to do is SELL itself. And I mean sell--the way Coke sells soda, Toyota sells cars, and Nike sells sneakers.  And we need to sell hard.

Don't give me any of this high-falutin' stuff about how "politics is more important than sneakers," and "we stand for truth and justice--how could anyone not want that?!"  There are so many things wrong with this viewpoint:

  1.  It doesn't work.  As Lakoff (and Hazen, in the intro) say, people are often not swayed by facts.  Lakoff puts this in terms of frames; most professional salespeople understand that the vast majority of sales are made "emotionally."  

  2.  Sales is one of human-kind's most studied, refined, practiced, and EFFECTIVE activities.  It WORKS.  

To be clear, I'm saying that the Democrats (or whoever) should adapt a sales strategy, and individual activists should be taught to sell.  Sales is not easy, which is why people who are good at it get rich.  But a soupcon of sales know-how and practice can be absolutely transformational.

There's a process to selling anything, from a stick of gum to a yacht.  Sales ALWAYS begins with meeting the customer on **HIS** (or her) mental space.  (Or his frame, if you will.)  Not yours.  Then you guide them while they take "baby steps" to your space (or frame).  This is often called "consultative sales," and your role is that of a guide, coach, teacher, or consultant.  

A lot of lefties don't do this, NOT because they are elitist or arrogant, but because they don't know they are supposed to.

If everyone who is reading Lakoff would now proceed on to a sales primer such as Roger Dawson's - or even How to Win Friends and Influence People, which, not for nothing, has sold 60 MM copies or some such - the left would be MUCH stronger than it is now.

Did I sell ya?
Hillary

by Hillary Rettig on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 03:43:20 PM EST

Re: It's the SALES, people! (none / 0)

You are onto something. . . and all of the activists in the blogospehere will have to become evangelists for the democratic brand, once we get ourselves ready (hopefully by Spring of 2005).

That's sales, in a way, and Lakoff's tips for how to talk persuasively, offered by Paul Rosenberg above, are on point.

The problem more globally is that we have not defined and revised the party's brand.  Lakoff's anaylsis helps with this but does not get us there.  Dean's spech in Orlando last week was an attempt to begin this, and it looked like a good start to me.  I offer some thoughts about branding in my comments in this diary thread from earlier this week.

I also wholeheartedly agree with you that we have been getting our asses kicked by an inability to think like businesspeople in the development of our movement.  The other side has certainly learned the lessons of business.  I'm mulling over some ways to bring more business thinking into this community, but have not setttled on how to do that.

by Pachacutec on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 08:52:51 PM EST
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Putting the cart before the horse (none / 0)

Don't think of a cart
I just finished a fairly long post on what I think Lakoff does well - recognizing and diagnosing frames and what he doesn't do well - suggesting rhetorical strategies.   Lakoff finishes the book by suggesting some not so effective rhetorical strategies, when what the left needs are clear and effetive frames.

This I believe has led to the left blogosphere engaging in trying to do work on rhetorical strategies before they understand their frames or the frames that they would like to promote.  

More on Junkiewire

by Marc Brazeau on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 04:15:29 PM EST

If You Can't Make A Sale Here... (none / 0)

Then why should we go look at what you wrote elsewhere?

(Especially if you claim to know so much about framing! <g>)

I did, this time, and the results left me scratching my head. I'm still not sure what you're fur and what you're agin.

I agree that generating effective frames is not Lakoff's forte. He's like a physics teacher, passing on tools for car designer/engineers to put to work. But he knows that.

To a certain extent, I think that some thrashing around right now has to occur. We don't learn well on the left by spoon-feeding. But if you have ideas about how to improve the process, I'm all, all ears. You could even email me.

rad / gte / net

by Paul Rosenberg on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 09:06:18 PM EST

Re: If You Can't Make A Sale Here... (none / 0)

Definitely we need to roll around in this -- but we really can't afford long to do it.  We need every bit of the next year to learn how to frame and begin to build frames, with the following year dedicated to implementation and tweaking throughout the entire '06 campaign.

It's not as if there isn't money out there to do this right.  We need to pull together marketing folks from within our ranks, identify market segments, locate willing test group participants, start cranking up and out the frames, develop plans based on products, segments, etc.

But simultaneously, we need to be able to talk about our products.  What are they?  Can we define them in 5 to 7 words -- or less?  They already exist in the minds of Americans; we have to be able to manifest the image of them with an economy of words.

It's rather cynical to talk about fundamental human rights and their protections in such calculating and arm's length terms, as though they were merely goods on the shelf.  But this is the nature of politics.  Like making sausage, not everyone can watch the process without feeling squeamish.

by RayneToday on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 10:27:44 PM EST
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Re: If You Can't Make A Sale Here... (none / 0)

>It's rather cynical to talk about fundamental >human rights and their protections in such >calculating and arm's length terms, as though >they were merely goods on the shelf.  

No, Rayne, it's really not.  It's effective.  It's about effectiveness and benchmarking and accountability, and using the best tools we have available to fight the good fight.  It gives me hope to hear lefties talk this way.  

What's cynical is (a) talking on and on about a problem (esp. in the echo chamber) and not doing anything to solve it, and (b) tackling a problem in an ineffectual way because you can't conquer either your ego or your fears.  The latter in particular burns my britches because activists who are ineffective or undisciplined often wind up hurting the very vulnerable populations they purport to serve.

Hill

by Hillary Rettig on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 04:50:27 PM EST
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Re: If You Can't Make A Sale Here... (none / 0)

1] I only linked to what I'd written elsewhere to keep the thread compact.

2]  What I'm for is knowing what we are selling before we come up with the slogans to sell it, which is what I think has been going on and Lakoff has been encouraging.  When Luntz and Gingrich started tossing off lists of effective words and phrases, they were twenty years into their project.

I guess what I'm proposing is speeding up the process by getting clear and specific on what our frames are in the first place.  Effective rhetorical strategies will flow naturally from that fount.

by Marc Brazeau on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 12:43:51 AM EST
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Re: If You Can't Make A Sale Here... (none / 0)

I'm all for compactness, I just think you need to work on being able to summarize your arguments effectively.
by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 02:29:21 AM EST
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Compactness... (none / 0)

Actually, that's a critical challenge for all liberals working on the framing process.

Studies show humans digest information broken in small chunks fastest.

See Robert Horn's work on this subject:
http://coe.sdsu.edu/eet/Articles/infomap/index.htm

We need to cut out waste and get to the point when making frames.

We all know this point really cut into Gore's and Kerry's effectiveness.  

by RayneToday on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 05:12:10 PM EST
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Re: If You Can't Make A Sale Here... (none / 0)

Lakoff says that framing isn't spin.  My point is that a lot of what I've seen in the left blogospere is simply spin masquerading as framing.

This is part of my reaction to Kevin Drum's review of Lakoff's Don't Think of an Elephant:  

I think that the Democrats have two operating principles:

  • Defend the New Deal

  • Defend the gains made by the Civil Rights Movement

    Both worthy goals.  Both defensive.  And as such, neither is all that inspiring, unless you are a) old enough to remember the New Deal or b) Black.

    I think we should start by looking back to times when Democrats had successful frames.  I would point to three.  The New Deal, The New Frontier and The Great Society.  The New Deal linked the idea of economic security to the idea of a sense of national purpose.  The New Frontier linked a sense of national purpose to the idea of social tolerance.  The Great Society linked the idea of social tolerance to the idea of economic security.  (Bringing the cycle full circle.)

    The New Deal channeled a sense of national purpose into projects like the PWA, TVA, CCC and the WPA to produce a Keynesian pump priming.  It seized on the need to defend the most vulnerable amongst from the ravages of the Great Depression and produced Social Security and AFDC as well as the NLRA and the Fair Labor Standards Act.

    With the New Frontier, JFK linked forward thing about racial equality with a desire to seize on space age technologies and move forward into the heavens.  The results were the Apollo space program and James Meredith's enrollment at the University of Mississippi.  Easily overlooked are the things that flowed from the spirit Kennedy gave birth to.   It's no surprise that the planning for the World Trade Center started during The New Frontier.  While Kennedy enacted no major civil rights legislation, it was his rhetorical leadership that helped create the climate for the Civil Rights Movement to flourish.

    The Great Society turned the idea of social tolerance into the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act and the idea of economic security into the Medicare, Medicaid, and the creation of HUD (starring Paul Newman).   Students of Michael Harrington will be quick to point out that since the money for the War on Poverty was spent on the War in Vietnam, anti-poverty efforts fell short of their original promise and have been unfairly, but effectively discredited.   The perils of frames.   Set up a frame and you better be ready to deliver.  (This was my fear with Kerry's sabre rattling on outsourcing.  - - He was obscuring the root of the problem and proposing something so short of addressing the issue, that when it all played out people would have had no faith to draw on in the future.)



  • I think that we need to have better frames than merely defending  1945 and 1964.  

    Until we get to that point, better rhetorical devices are all defense and we've been playing D for 30 years.

    That's my point.

    by Marc Brazeau on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 12:58:03 AM EST
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    Spin, Frames + History (none / 0)

    In the Frameshop diaries at DKos, we're struggling with frames & spin. It's not going to come overnight, but there is a consistent press by some of us to keep moving in the direction of true framing.

    Your attempt to look at the past and use it to reflect on our present situation is admirable, but it's not entirely historically accurate. The New Frontier was not really about social tolerance. In fact, it's darned hard to say what it was about. It was probably the apex of Democratic spin. (You know that there are subatomic particles that have spin, but no mass, right?) It was about "viguh" and touch football, and 50-mile walks, and not being stodgy old Dwight D. Eisenhower, and PT-109.

    It was not about Civil Rights. Kennedy was probably the most conservative northern liberal you could find, which is part of why he got the nomination. He found a way to send a message to the black electorate below the national radar, but that was about it. The Civil Rights movement experienced nothing but frustration with Kennedy, until they finally forced his hand. It was only after his hand had been forced that he decided he'd better make the most of it.
    As for the Great Society, it was really about completing the job that the New Deal had begun. And Johnson really did a pretty good job of it, if only he hadn't been so frightened by McCarthyism, and the way it cost the Democrats the Seante in the 1950s. That's what made him go into Vietnam. He was certain that if he "lost" Vietnam he would lose his ability govern, and go down to defeat in 1968. Well, we all saw how that turned out.

    But his intentions were probably the best of any President we've ever had. He genuinely wanted to help poor people and minorities, and he was serious about trying to do it right and do it on a massive scale.

    by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 02:45:13 AM EST
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    Re: Spin, Frames + History (none / 0)

    I was aware of the gloss that I gave Kennedy, but I was a) refering to his nomination acceptance speach which is about social tolerance and b) refering to the New Frontier in how it was socially remembered, which for the purposes of frames is maybe more important than what it was actually about.   Go into most black barbershops and a lot of working class homes of a certain generation and their is a portrait of MLK and and one of JFK not MLK and LBJ even though LBJ would be more deserving.  The FRAME of social tolerance/civil rights and the 60's is associated with JFK rather than LBJ.

    Remember FRAMES trump FACTS.

    I think that my assertion about the FRAMES that emerged from the New Frontier are fairly accurate.  {if simplified for the purpose of stating something simply and clearly.

    If the New Frontier was about anything, it was mostly about the Apollo program and a sense of national purpose [ask not what you can do] which is the thing that I think holds the most lessons for today's Dems.

    by Marc Brazeau on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 05:16:02 AM EST
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    Re: Spin, Frames + History (none / 0)

    You need to be clearer.  There was a definite bluring in your post of what those initiatives were vs. how they're remembered. In addition, you made no mention of the Democratic Party being about other things--such as environmental protection--which are equally vital to its core identity.

    Frankly, the failure of the Democrats to push the environment as an issue is one of the great unsolved mysteries of our time. The GOP leadership is totally out of step with its electorate on the environment, and we never even make them sweat on it.

    by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 01:26:50 PM EST
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    Re: Spin, Frames + History (none / 0)

    >>>>There was a definite bluring in your post of what those initiatives were vs. how they're remembered.

    That's what a frame is.  I was describing the narrative of each of those key moments in the history of the Democratic Party and the way that they are collectively remembered.

    >>>>In addition, you made no mention of the Democratic Party being about other things--such as environmental protection--which are equally vital to its core identity.

    Those other things were not key elements of those narratives.  That's not my fault.  Carville:  Republicans have narratives, Democrats have litanies.  I was describing the times when we did have naratives, not litanies.  I'm looking at those periods because they produced party identification for the Democrats.  There are people who are Dems to this day because they came of age during those administrations.  We don't have to fight for their votes every election.

    I didn't discuss the New Covenant because it was not successful on those terms.  It was successful for Bill Clinton, but it did not create party identification.  Thanks to NAFTA quite the opposite.

    >>>>>Frankly, the failure of the Democrats to push the environment as an issue is one of the great unsolved mysteries of our time. The GOP leadership is totally out of step with its electorate on the environment, and we never even make them sweat on it.

    I think that the current moment makes energy independence and replacement of fossil fuels ripe for being the new Apollo project, linking new technologies with a sense of national purpose the way Kennedy did.

    I think that we need to forge a narrative about economic security and national purpose in the form of clean energy.

    The problem is that we all would like to do more.  But my point in looking back is that each period of success really had two focii and that's about it.  Interest group politics and poll mania make keeping it that simple very complicated.

    by Marc Brazeau on Sat Dec 18, 2004 at 09:45:17 AM EST
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    Re: If You Can't Make A Sale Here... (none / 0)

    Another thing that differentiates real sales people is that they are held accountable.  They have quotas - usually high ones.  And so they, and their supervisors are constantly working to refine and improve their processes.  

    They are also remarkably pragmatic.  They don't worry about things like spin vs. framing.  They worry about how effective they are.  Winning a sale is phenomonally hard work - much harder than non-salespeople realize.  It takes intensive preparation and execution, and professional sales also always involves *benchmarking* the results (critical), and constant tweaking to improve those results.

    Two principles to consider:

    1.  don't reinvent the wheel (learn how to sell from successful sellers and then sell).

    2.  don't reinvent the wrong wheel (get lost in academic discussions of framing, spin, etc.).  Return to #1.

    I don't want to come across as anti-intellectual.  I'm married to a university researcher and have been writing fan letters to Lakoff for more than a year now (which he never answered :-(). But, if you want to know how to actually apply Lakoff in the real world--which is what many people in this discussion seem to think is the missing piece--then get a sales textbook.

    Hillary

    by Hillary Rettig on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 10:35:46 AM EST
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    what to do... (none / 0)

    A lot of people have said that while they like Lakoff's ideas, they don't really know how to implement them. I'd like to suggest that we actually BECOME the frame. In other words, let's help lead people out of their fear by demonstrating what it's like to live a life that isn't based on fear (of terrorists, of God's punishment, of immigrants, of homosexuals). One way to do this is to talk comfortably and openly about our gay friends and family members. If people see that we are happy and unafraid, then maybe they won't be able to help but want what we've got.
    by shantay on Thu Dec 16, 2004 at 10:03:18 PM EST

    Modelling (none / 0)

    What you're talking about is what's known as modelling. And you're absolutely right.

    But in some arenas, this can be really tricky. In some ways modelling is one of our problems. For example, we see Democratic politicians acting like model decent human beings, and we see Rethugs attack them like demons, and people come away thinking, "Wow! Those Democrats eat babies for dinner and drink their blood for desert!"

    I think people really miss that this points to one of Michael Moore's greatest strengths.  He can make the most potent, withering point, and then smile his big,  wide, unabashed grin. His "What Controversy?" ad for 9/11 with him walking with W is a perfect expression of this.

    Al Franken is much the same. He is just such a nice guy. He can rip a Rethug hypocrite to pieces, and then just smile like a kid who's just won first prize at the science fair.

    We need more of this, please!

    by Paul Rosenberg on Fri Dec 17, 2004 at 07:56:33 PM EST
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