DNC update: Move aside, we're taking over

I'm just going to put some of the Hotline quotes on the DNC race in the extended entry. It's interesting that just as Daschle & Reid were touting the Vilsack & Hindrey cobo, Jackson began talking about the Dean & Webb combo. The latter, if it were to happen, would be the strongest hand, with Webb already a Vice Chair of the DNC, and Dean having the grassroots support.

What I don't get is, why do these Red State Democrats want to alienate the party's base in the Blue states even more? We already sucked it up and got Harry Reid for the Red State Minority Leader in the Senate, give us a break with the condescending remarks about wanting Southern and Midwestern values for the DNC.  I'll stack up the West Coast-Northeastern coalition of freedom-for-all, morality-for-all, and liberty-for-all global values against those Red State regional resentments of moral superiority anytime, anyplace, and make the right choice. We want a Democratic Leaders from a Democratic state.

There doesn't seem to be a clue among the current Congressional leadership as to how much organizational work has to be done on a national scale if the Democratic Party wants to avoid being a permanant trifecta minority for the next 8 years.


The Power Vacuum -- It Definitely Does Suck

IA Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) and ex-Labor Sec Alexis Herman told Dems 11/22 "that they were not interested" in being DNC chair. Several Dems "held open the possibility that the decisions by" Vilsack and Herman would "encourage others to run." Howard Dean is "by far the best known, but his close identification with the left wing and the collapse" of his WH campaign are "almost certain to prompt a challenge from moderates already concerned about the task in unseating" GOPers. Other prospective candidates are: Media Fund head Harold Ickes, ex-Dallas mayor Ron Kirk, ex-Denver mayor Wellington Webb, New Democratic Network pres Simon Rosenberg and ex-YES Network CEO Leo Hindery. The "fact that no obvious consensus candidate has emerged is the latest evidence of the difficult situation the party fund itself after the election." Dem officials said that if Dean does seek DNC chair, "that would make it unlikely, though not impossible," that he make an '08 WH bid (Nagourney, New York Times, 11/23).

Vil-Sacked

In dropping out of the DNC chair race, Vilsack said he was "honored" and "flattered" by the support but he "wanted to focus on his Iowa agenda as he enters" the last years of his term. Vilsack: "These challenges and opportunities require more time than I felt I could share. As a result, I will not be a candidate for DNC Chairman" (Beaumont, Des Moines Register, 11/22). More: "Because I will be the senior Democratic governor in the country, I will continue to be an active voice in our party and a zealous and committed advocate for a Democratic agenda of opportunity, responsibility and security." Drake prof Dennis Goldford argues that Vilsack's '08 ambitions "may have made the job less desirable for Vilsack while also making him a less desirable candidate." Goldford: "It's not an advantageous position to use as a base for running for president. And the thought that you might have presidential ambitions might keep you out of that position" (Dorman, Sioux City Journal, 11/23).

First, I'm Going To RAYBURN, Then CANNON, And On To DIRKSEN! (We Know, This Line Is Getting Old)

House members said Dean is "canvassing for support" on the Hill. His Capitol Hill focus "has been on lawmakers" who endorsed his WH bid, but he's also lobbying Members of Congress who backed Dick Gephardt and John Kerry. Dean has "touted his success at grassroots politics and his fundraising prowess as reasons why he should be" DNC chair, "arguing that he can lift the party out of the doldrums." Dean's Capitol Hill push came as senior Dems said ex-Pres. Clinton's chair preference "could prove significant." Clinton "has not signaled a pick, but those close to him reportedly prefer" Herman. As the "behind-the-scenes lobbying heated up and moderate" Dems were "sizing up their best chance of blocking" Dean, Senate Min Leader Harry Reid endorsed the idea of 2 chairmen: 1 as the public face and the other to focus on fundraising and finance (Dettmer, New York Sun, 11/23).

Jesse Jackson: "I have no favorite but there are two names cropping up. One is Howard Dean, who has in my judgment all of the right stuff. First he is free to do it. He's very articulate. He can raise money. He ran a race that attracted a lot of new energy. There is Wellington Webb, former mayor of Denver, likewise, very credential. He is a vice chair. At this point the two of them are emerging real strong. And maybe a combination could be the way to go" ("IP," CNN, 11/22).
 

Dean for America exec dir Tom McMahon writes in a blog entry: "Let me begin by saying Governor Dean has not made a decision whether to pursue the job. ... Since so many people that the Governor respects have requested him to give this idea his full consideration, he has been reaching out to different people (both inside and outside the party) to get their thoughts on the party's future. Governor Dean continues to speak with Democrats with a variety of backgrounds-elected officials, members of the DNC and the thousands of supporters that have written, emailed and called asking him to consider being the party's next chairman" (DeanforAmerica.com, 11/23).

Are They Going To Become The Blue Collar Political Party?

Rep. Harold Ford's CoS Mark Schuermann said Ford "has no plans to pursue" the DNC chair, but he did "express some preferences Ford would have regarding" the chairmanship, like a "return to Ford's call for a more moderate" Dem Party "rather than the leadership and political direction of, say" House Min Leader Nancy Pelosi. Schuermann: "[Ford's] only interest here is that we have someone in that position from the South or the Midwest, someone with those kinds of values" (Brewer, Lebanon Democrat, 11/22).

Dem govs of red states "are unhappy with the idea" of Dean taking over the DNC. "They favor" Vilsack, ex-GA Gov. Roy Barnes or ex-SC Gov. Jim Hodges (Dettmer, New York Sun, 11/23).

Hindery Looking For Another YES! (Cue Up The Marv Alberts)

     
Ex-Sen. Bob Kerrey said 11/2 that the Dem Party is "fortunate that Hindery wants the job, describing" him as a "successful New YOrk City businessman who understands the Republican-leaning regions of the country." Kerrey: "He can be a unifier and be a neutral broker" (Glover, AP, 11/22). Outgoing Senate Min Leader Tom Daschle has argued for 2 chairs, and the person Daschle "has been touting" for the finance side of the chair is Hindery, and Hindery has met with Dem leaders to discuss the option. The 2-person chair would have "boost[ed] the chances" for Vilsack (Dettmer, New York Sun, 11/23).



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mainpage this. (none / 0)

Your gossip is interesting enough to be worthy of top billing.

I'm not sure I can construct a story out of it, though, other than apparent disarray in the "anybody but dean" forces.

by Teaser on Tue Nov 23, 2004 at 02:08:41 PM EST

DNC update (none / 0)

The sentiment that the Dems don't seem to have a clue is just too, too true, with regard to many issues, not just national organization. Where the hell is the democratic leadership? Where is the moral outrage over the Republican's rapid response to legislate a decrease in ethics for Delay, while leaving the country unprotected and vulnerable b/c Hassert would not put the Intelligence Bill up for a vote as he wanted a "majority of the majority" to pass on it-- There is a deafening silence on the part of the Democrates-- and it is even more frieghtening to me than the recent NeoCon take-over, cause you know the old saying about what it takes for evil to thrive...Just where the hell is my party?
by languagedoc on Tue Nov 23, 2004 at 09:34:11 PM EST

Jerome, you're insufficiently pissed. (3.00 / 1)

(apologies for the informality and presumptuousness, but I think the DC ABD campaign is even worse than we're assuming)

I would believe the DC Democratic establishment (DLC, DNC, and assorted ABD forces) had something noble, altruistic, and/or helpful to the party in mind during the primary's ABD campaign and the current DNC-Chair ABD campaign IF these same people had the balls to actually oppose Bush and his inflated mandate.

I'm curious where they get off claiming that Dean would've been such a horrible candidate, that we would've lost so badly, and we'd be getting so steamrolled in the aftermath of what would've been a certain Dean defeat WHEN THEY ACT LIKE THAT ANYWAY AFTER A CLOSE KERRY DEFEAT?!?

But at least now we know what the DC ABD forces really care about when it comes to organizing the party: keeping their jobs, and keeping the Iowa caucus first. Who gives a shit about winning elections, or building a party and a fifty-state campaign, or crafting a message?

It might only be us...

by Chris on Tue Nov 23, 2004 at 11:52:29 PM EST

Nail On The F-ing Head, Dude! (none / 0)

"I'm curious where they get off claiming that Dean would've been such a horrible candidate, that we would've lost so badly, and we'd be getting so steamrolled in the aftermath of what would've been a certain Dean defeat WHEN THEY ACT LIKE THAT ANYWAY AFTER A CLOSE KERRY DEFEAT?!?"

It is so obvious that these dinasours have to go. And it has nothing to do with age. Byrd, for example, has only gotten better with age.  We're in the same position within the Democratic Party as the conservatives were in the GOP in the 60s. Except, of course, that we really are a vast majority of the party--and a substantial majority of the country, too, if our issues and our ways of framing them were brought to the fore. (What was the "Yes" vote on the minimum wage raise in Florida? And how many percentage points ahead of Kerry was that? And how many more electoral votes did Kerry need to win?)

Yes, sure, I know that the Rethugs are the real enemy. But we can't fight the real enemy with these guys in our way. They have got to go. Not because I'm an ideological purist, but because they simply refuse to fight as Democrats. I am willing to support conservative Democrats where necessary--so long as they are willing to fight like hell for the Party against the Republicans rather than just fighting like hell for the Party against me!  

They may be self-hating masochists. But not me, baby!

by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Nov 24, 2004 at 01:12:11 PM EST
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Red State Dem here (none / 0)

I'm from KY (hence my blog name and username) and I can tell you that I have been hearing this all over the state: we cannot drag furthur left.

It's not alienating the liberal base by staying in the center but we cannot have several factions in the party.  Dean as chair writes off the south and midwest--key electoral votes.

I'm a progressive centrist if there ever is such a term.  I can't get elected in my state otherwise.

Looking at a national stand-point, Harry Reid was a poor choice as Senate Leader.  We have to re-strategize and re-organize.  Looking at who has won since 1976, we have to go with a moderate.  Evan Bayh is a moderate liberal populist that recieved more votes than Bush in Indiana...that is pretty impressive right there.

His dad wrote title 9, wrote two successful amendments, and Evan never forgot where he came from.

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Thu Dec 02, 2004 at 11:49:00 PM EST

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