Glimpse inside Kerry campaign: no grassroots, reliance on 527s, fear of "moles"

In mid-February two top employees of the Kerry campaign were calling me daily for a week interested in what I had learned as a grassroots organizer for Dean, and were considering hiring me.  

Today's NYT Magazine article by Matt Bai "Who Lost Ohio?" suggests some lessons learned by Dean grassroots organizers could have been crucial, but the Kerry campaign turned a deaf ear.  The article also confirms a fear I wrote about on Kos in late February that relying on 527s could be dangerous.

I was one of three California state coordinators of Dean house parties.  Still stinging from first-hand experience of a bad grassroots plan in Iowa and from reports of a very well-executed grassroots program in New Hampshire (though the gains weren't enough to overcome the "scream" speech), I felt the Dems had learned some important lessons and wanted to ensure the Dem nominee heeded them well.  It seemed to me that grassroots house parties were not just a way to raise some money, but were a crucial GOTV organizing tool--more important than the Dems' traditional door-step visits by strangers.

Bai writes in today's NYT Magazine article that a strategy of having neighbors talk to neighbors is much more effective than flying in outsiders to canvass door-to-door.  The Republicans used this strategy and turned out more people.  Of course, the Dems did turn out huge numbers and the door-to-door approach does also work.  But, we could have done both and I think we would have turned out many more people.  Also, since a house party program is more decentralized, we could done it in every precinct in Ohio (and across the country)-- not just targeted solid-blue precincts-- and turned out more Dem votes within purple precincts and even red precincts of battleground states.

Why didn't the Kerry campaign use the Dean NH approach of house parties for GOTV?  A top Kerry staffer (one of five who had been with Kerry from the very start of his primary campaign and who claimed he talked with Kerry almost daily on the phone) told me: "To be blunt, this is a fat-cat top-down campaign. The campaign staff doesn't really get grassroots."  Those were his exact words (I wrote them down because I was startled he would admit this--I haven't told ANYONE this quote because I didn't want it to get into GOP hands prior to the election).  He did think a grassroots strategy was crucial, but he may have been among the very few Kerry staffers there at the time to think that way; he and one other staffer were pushing to get me hired and create a real grassroots strategy.  He called me daily with updates.  On the fourth day, he apologized that Mary Beth Cahill was concerned I could be a "Republican mole."  He told her I had been a volunteer with the Dean campaign and that he trusted me based on our phone conversations, but that didn't prove anything to her.  She couldn't imagine hiring someone who lived in California that she'd never met.  Instead, she hired a former Emily's List staffer with experience sending direct mail to big donors, whom Mary Beth had worked with previously.  

Of course, I can't say that hiring me would have made a difference in the 11/2 results, nor that there weren't others who would have been better experts on effective grassroots strategies who might have had more experience.  There are so many factors that go into something as enormous as turning out votes across the country.  But, the way the campaign approached that one hiring decision led me to fear how the Kerry campaign was handling its grassroots strategy.  Of course, the Kerry campaign became a small donor campaign when money poured in through the internet and they discovered how easy and effective that was.  But, it was MoveOn, Dean folks, and others who did that, not any particular effort on the Kerry campaign's part.  Once the Kerry folks discovered this because it was in their face, they started sending out regular fundraising emails.  As Kos pointed out in a diary sometime shortly after 11/2, the Kerry campaign's emails continued to be primarily about fundraising even in the last week--still not "getting the grassroots."

The Kerry campaign did eventually hire a key MoveOn staffer to teach them more about using the internet to inspire the grassroots, but even that was a bit of a late hire.

Back in February when they hired a direct mail big-donor person to coordinate their grassroots strategy, I realized that the 527 organizations like ACT would be conducting the grassroots GOTV campaign not the Kerry campaign.  It worried me that the Bush campaign had one strategic headquarters and the Dems would be relying on various groups who couldn't legally coordinate.  (I wrote a dKos diary on this, but the archive search feature isn't working, so I can't find it -- help me out if you know how to search for February or March diaries).  Matt Bai's article published in the NYT Magazine today also talks about how the 527s weren't allowed to mention Kerry's plans to improve anything; they could only tell prospective voters what Bush had done wrong.  Bai wrote in the NYT Magazine a comprehensive article describing the GOP Amway-style approach back in April; Bai probably is a leading expert now on the pros and cons of these two approaches.  Relying on 527s to do the grassroots organizing was a huge strategic error, in my opinion.  I know ACT did a fabulous job, and beat it's own goals in terms of numbers.  But, given the facts (Bush's low approval ratings, a bungled war and foreign policy, a poor economy with many lost jobs, frustration over health care costs, etc.), we should have done much better.  Had the Kerry campaign been able to raise the same total amount (that the campaign + the 527s did) and directly hired folks like Steve Rosenthal and Steve Bouchard, I bet Kerry would now be forming a transition team.

Why did we have 527s in addition to the Kerry/DNC campaign rather than just one entity like the GOP did?  Because we hadn't been building our base over the past decade like the GOP had, and we had to rely on large donations from big donors, not just the small donations from a smaller base.  The 527s were legally permitted to accept these bigger donations.  The two parties had a pretty even playing field when you looked at the total amounts of money raised, but not when you looked at strategy and coordination.

So, I know that the Kerry campaign eventually did have house parties and even put a lot of emphasis on it.  But, they got there reluctantly and it was too late.  My proposal to them talked about the math-- a percentage of the people who go to house parties tend to host their own.  The sooner you start holding these, the more people you'll reach over a many-month period.  The Kerry campaign didn't get their house party program going for about four months after I had talked with them extensively about the benefits of a program like this for getting out the vote.  The former direct mail staffer who was hired to coordinate the grassroots program became the boss of another young staffer hired to coordinate house parties.  The new house party staffer took about two months to design a poor program.  Everyone who looked at it said it was greatly inferior to the program the Dean campaign had up and running in October 2003.  Former Dean house party coordinators from many states called to offer help (for free) repeatedly.  We were ignored, but our suggestions were mostly implemented... after about three months.  By August, the Kerry campaign had a pretty good house party program in place for fundraising, but not for GOTV.  This was about five months too late, and no longer timely.  

My proposal to the Kerry campaign in February was to organize the house parties by precincts in all states, including the crucial swing states.  These would be neighborhood house parties, not simply fundraisers of our most like-thinking political friends.  The Dean campaign did this in New Hampshire.  Cesar Chavez did this organizing Latino migrant workers decades ago.  I don't get the impression the Kerry campaign ever did this.  I don't get the impression ACT ever did this.  I could be wrong, though, and please comment below if these kinds of neighborhood gatherings did take place.  Mary Beth Cahill sent an email in October asking people to host debate-watching parties, and then call swing-state voters from the party.  Perhaps that was the message sent to folks in safe blue states like California, while folks inside the swing-states got a different message.  I don't know.  MoveOn also sent me messages about hosing phone-bank parties and traveling to swing states.  This reminded me of what the Dean campaign didn't do well in Iowa.  Outsiders may have the energy and want to help, but it's locals that really turn out the votes.  It's ironic to me that Mary Beth Cahill didn't trust an out-of-stater she'd never met on her campaign staff, but ACT thought voters would trust out-of-staters on their doorsteps.

The GOP Amway-style pyramid relies on neighbors but is so top-down that I don't see it working well for Dems.  Dems like creativity and input into how they do things, in my experience.  I thought neighborhood-based grassroots house parties could have been a key strategy that might have been as effective or even more effective than the Amway-style pyramids but it was a strategy that needed many months to be built.  It would be more decentralized than the GOP top-down strategy, but the Kerry campaign would have given local folks the tools and encouragement to make it happen.  With the Kerry campaign not "getting grassroots", instead 527s came in to fill the gaps but they had restrictions that made them much less effective, and the Kerry campaign realized what they needed to do (if they realized it ever) much too late when it was in their face.

I can't know whether the Dean campaign would have done better overall, but it sure seems like their grassroots strategy would have been better.  Many Dean folks seemed to understand that the New Hampshire grassroots strategy was more effective than the Iowa strategy.   They already had the house party tools and could have easily re-structured it to focus on precinct-level work for the general campaign.  They already had the small-donor fundraising tools.  Clearly, the Dean campaign would have needed to make other major changes in staff and strategy (especially media and message-control strategy) from the primaries to the general campaign.

Here's hoping the Dems do learn from 2004 as we go forward.  A key lesson is to build our base so that one entity can coordinate a presidential campaign.  Not so that it's top-down, but so that locals in crucial states can talk positively about their candidate and influence their neighbors.


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I agree (2.00 / 2)

I was in New Hampshire with the Dean campaign and the grassroots organizing here was amazing.  We called it a house meeting and what happened was, someone not employed by Dean for America would invite their entire group of friends, family, and neighbors - people they had a social bond with - to their house.  The host would talk about why they were supporting Howard Dean and what his message of empowerment meant to them.  There was usually a staff member present, but they did none of the speaking and were there as a formality.  This was a grassroots organization - friends talking to friends.

At the end of the night/afternoon/morning, the host would put out a call for someone else in the room to host a house meeting.  On the wall of the office I was in, we had a huge chart that chronicled the results of house meetings.  It was amazing that one initial house meeting produced 25, 50, 100 others.

When Kerry got the nomination, though, this type of activism stopped.  There was a plea for money, canvassers, and phonebankers.  It was a machine now and the personal appeal had been lost.  It was now too much like politics.  With Dean in NH, it was friends getting togehter with friends and on election day, you, not some kid from California, brought your neighors to the polls.  

In October, the Kerry campaign in NH decided the college democrats at my school weren't capable enough to lead themselves and implement the campaign plan we worked out so they assigned a volunteer, with no political experience, to run the campaign on our campus.  Students here expected other studens to be talking to them, not some 40 year-old non-student.  

People like to see friendly faces and it's time we come up with a strategy that recognizes that.

by ply739 on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 04:57:33 PM EST

Re: I agree...please elaborate (none / 0)

I've heard that NH was better than Iowa, but how exactly did it differ?
by Abby on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:27:03 PM EST
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Very interesting (none / 0)

"To be blunt, this is a fat-cat top-down campaign. The campaign staff doesn't really get grassroots."
Just as I suspected, with people like Bob Shrum running things.

This is interesting stuff. I think your approach would've been quite effective, and suggests a way for the candidate to have a national campaign.


Nobody's right if everybody's wrong --Stephen Stills "For What It's Worth"
by vj on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 05:37:00 PM EST

cross-posted at DailyKos (none / 0)

By the way, I cross-posted this diary at DailyKos where it's now a recommended diary and received a lot of interesting comments:

http://susan.dailykos.com

by susan on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 05:41:00 PM EST

GOTV wasn't the problem....persuasion was... (none / 0)

I worked for Kerry in more than one state, and the suggestion that the GOTV efforts lost the election, I believe, are mis-guided.  The problem was that we didn't do a good enough job of finding NEW supporters.  In almost every swing state, vote goals were met...much of it for a concerted base vote effort...But if your targeting and turnout predictions are blown right open (by say huge increases in rural voter turnout) you have to find new voters to make up you MOV. Just my opinion--less about GOTV and more about persuasion.

by maineah Dem on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 06:14:12 PM EST

Re: GOTV wasn't the problem....persuasion was... (none / 0)

One thing that's perplexed me is the turnout. All along, the Kerry campaign had predicted about a 188-120M turnout, while Rove predicted about 113M, so why was Kerry so off? Especially, when the turnout goals were being met in places like Ohio. I guess maybe their Blue state turnout model could have been wrong, as we've see in comparison with higher turnout among Red States. Still, I have a hard time believing that you couldn't see the Bush turnout coming, unless you just didn't believe what was going on-- at the block and level too.  I guess that Karen Hicks just held no sway in the campaign, because she was brought on nearly immediately after Dean dropped out, and she was the one most responsible for Dean's NH HouseMeeting strategy.

I do agree that the Democrats need to adopt this strategy. It's why it's so important that we get Dean as the DNC Chair. We have to build this inside the party for the next 4 years if we are going to have a chance.

by Jerome Armstrong on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 06:59:11 PM EST
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Re: GOTV wasn't the problem....persuasion was... (none / 0)

Also having volunteered with the Kerry campaign in both CA and Ohio, I can say that it's just plain false that the Dems weren't focused on GOTV.  The last week or so, that's ALL it was, and it was a pretty good system.  In Ohio, all over the state they beat their vote goals by thousands of votes.  

They just focused too much on urban centers and utterly neglecting the rural areas.  Edwards was supposed to help them there, but -- with 20/20 hindsight -- he ultimately added nothing to the ticket.  

the lyceum
by mattgabe on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:27:09 PM EST
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Re: GOTV wasn't the problem....persuasion was... (none / 0)

I haven't written in much detail about this before. It's still painful. We lost almost everything in Missouri.

I volunteered with the coordinated campaign starting in May, and more intensely, from the end of August.

We were assigned a staffer (who was quite good and very energetic) who came online at the end of August tasked with the impossible. She organized and greatly expanded our volunteer resources. We had a phone bank doing ID, persuasion calls, and GOTV calls through election day.

In October our staffer was reassigned to Ohio - she left on 12 hours notice. A week after she left we were assigned another staffer from the now much smaller Missouri coordinated campaign.

In the build up leading to August locally we made sure that we had sufficient yard signs and bumper stickers on hand. They served their purpose - they kept people from complaining that we didn't have yard signs or bumper stickers.

We never had enough volunteers (though we had more than I've ever seen in our area through four presidential elections) - too many tasks and not enough time to accomplish them all. Volunteer burnout was a major problem.

We could never get our door to door canvasses sufficiently staffed. This in a college town.

The majority of the College Democrats devoted their energies to building a float for the October 30th homecoming parade. Let me repeat that. They devoted their energies to building a float for the October 30th homecoming parade. It looked nice. It didn't ID or persuade any voters.

I should talk. Well, towards the end I devoted too much precious time to putting up insult signage. Our county committee would constantly buy 4 foot by 8 foot Kerry/Edwards signs to replace those stolen and vandalized. We'd erect the new signs faster than they could tear them down. We had them popping up like mushrooms. Twenty three by election day. At 5:00 a.m. on election day I took a 4 foot by 8 foot Kerry/Edwards rally banner and set it up tied to steel posts in a vacant lot facing our republican controlled county courthouse. I should know better.  

We had twelve phone lines - from late August to Election Day the only time we used all of our lines was on November 2nd.

The statewide phone match on the voter file was a reported 50%. I found out too late in the middle of October that in our five county (mostly rural) area our match rate was 22%. I managed to get two phonophobe volunteers working on a manual match and entering the data in our one county. In one week they added 1200 numbers. Not enough in an a total area with over 100,000 registered voters. If I'd known in August I would have been able to organize more.

Our incumbent Democratic Congressman emphatically said to me on October 30th, "We have got to win Missouri, we've just got to." I was informed yesterday in the aftermath of the election he told someone else, "We got out churched and out dirtied."

The Kerry/Edwards ground plan was good. We just didn't have the advntage of any institutional structures in place. In our area the republican GOTV plan was the churches.

On November 3rd I spoke with a student who was sleep deprived and despondent over the results. He had been up until 3:00 a.m. - 19 other students had congregated at his apartment to watch the results on television. Of the 20 (including him) only four had voted for Kerry.  

 

543,895 votes
by Michael Bersin on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 10:17:30 PM EST
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Re: GOTV wasn't the problem....persuasion was... (none / 0)

 "institutional structures" were not in place.... What can we do about this?  Is there some way for a group like MoveOn or Democracy for America to do some outreach to potential supporters in small towns and rural areas?  There might not be as many people who use the web frequently, but if members of those groups could write to or call friends and relatives in "red' regions, maybe we could start to create a presence.
by KDMfromPhila on Mon Nov 22, 2004 at 08:48:22 AM EST
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Take back the churches... (none / 0)

You know how Rove says tear down the other side's strengths?

Well, i'd caution against that as a generic rule for campaigning (Rove's dirty tricks make that sort of strategy ideal, but if you want to run an honest campaign it's way more risky) but in this case: why can't the Democratic Party take back the churches?

Despite the Republican bluster the churches aren't really their strong point. The Republicans really aren't the church party. They're the religious extremist party, yes, but religious extremists are and always have been a minority. The Republicans are tilting the rest right-ward, however.

But they aren't as effective as they'd like. Church leaders (i'm talking the ones with formal theological training) are generally pretty thoughtful people; that's what they're paid for, after all. They furthermore are more liable to have a more complete awareness of Christianity than the rank and file members. They're more liable to be willing (and able) to discuss things like abortion and same sex marriage rationally and they are also more willing to discuss the Republican Party's Christian failings. The Pope himself condemned the war in Iraq.

Now, this runs into the problem of separation of church and state. But if this is the way the game is going to be played (and clearly the Republicans want it to be played this way) then let's stop ignoring the problem and pretending it will go away. Either knock the Republican infrastructure out of the game (i would suggest using the courts as the only other ways to do it require stuff the Democratic Party simply does not have) or steal it from them.

It isn't impossible.

My father, a life-long Republican and head pastor for a Lutheran church, decided he couldn't tolerate the Republican Party's ethical problems anymore and- for the first time in his life- voted for a Democrat this year.

by winter on Mon Nov 22, 2004 at 02:20:59 PM EST
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yes, persuasion was the bigger problem (none / 0)

I was a "precinct captain" for Kerry before the Iowa caucuses, and at least during that period (late 2003), the Kerry campaign was VERY focused on organizing the neighborhoods, holding house parties, and getting "hard counts" of supporters for GOTV. We did a good job with that. I hosted three house parties myself in November and December, with zero fundraising on the agenda. Friends of mine in Ames contacted the Kerry campaign offering to hold a house party to raise money during this period, and his staff told them that Kerry did not want to focus on fundraising before the caucuses.

During the days when there seemed to be no way to stop Dean, John Norris (Kerry's Iowa campaign manager) told his field organizers not to panic, but keep lining up precinct captains and work on meeting the vote goals in individual precincts.

I don't doubt that the Kerry campaign failed to do enough with the house parties nationally after he won the nomination, but in June/July 2004 field organizers in central Iowa were contacting volunteers to urge them to hold house parties for Kerry ASAP.

ACT was also contacting people in precincts trying to get them to persuade eight friends in their own neighborhood to help with the campaign. I don't know the details of this because as a precinct captain for Kerry I had to be careful not to coordinate with people in the neighborhood who were primarily working with ACT or Moveon.

In September and October, we precinct captains got lists of unreliable Democrats in our neighborhoods, whom we urged to vote early (with great success). We also had lists of undecided voters, whom we were encouraged to contact. I know that certain precincts that had higher levels of undecideds than mine were targeted for door-knocking as well.

People now are grumbling about all the energy put into the absentee ballot effort in Iowa, but I think we don't have enough information yet to determine whether it was a good strategy. It was certainly very labor intensive for the volunteers, but we did get a huge number of people to vote early, which did shrink the universe of people we had to contact to GOTV those last few days.

In Iowa, as in many other states, Kerry exceeded the "vote goals" set by the campaign strategists. Iowa had pretty high turnout in 2000, leading to something like 1.3 million votes cast (total state population about 2.8 million). Our vote goal in Iowa was 700,000 this year, and Kerry exceeded that by tens of thousands. Unfortunately, it wasn't quite enough--total turnout was 1.5 million, much more than they expected.

I know Iowa turnout levels are unusually high, so this may not apply in all states, but I think the key in the future will be to persuade the regular voters who should be with us. We did a great job of turning out our base, even our irregular voters, but I knew too many people who oppsed the war and are moderate on social issues but voted for Bush anyway.

I don't know the right way to reach these people (some independents, some registered Rs), frankly, but we need more of them to counteract the large number of people who will never give any Democrat a fair hearing at all.

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by desmoinesdem on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:02:39 PM EST

Hear hear (3.00 / 0)

Couldn't agree more on the 527s.

There are 2 ways you can get power in American politics: you can build it or you can buy it.  The old dynamic was that Democrats built it and Republicans bought it.  Nowadays the GOP both builds and buys, and the Democrats... the Democrats seem to be under the impression that you can rent it.

by jalefkowit on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:12:21 PM EST

One of my friends here in Michigan (none / 0)

tried to start a house party and invited a Kerry staffer to come and speak to us...

They blew off the organizer by canceling their appearance and never responding about a future event...

All in all...the Kerry campiagn here was a complete mess and not at all organized to maximize the volunteers that came out to help...

by Nazgul35 on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:27:03 PM EST

About those grassroots... (none / 0)

To say that the Kerry campaign had no "grassroots" is ridiculous. At least in St. Paul, where I doorknocked, the area was saturated with our people. I don't think the problem with the election loss had much to do with grassroots at all, and in fact, despite the assertions to the contrary in these entries, the Dean collapse showed the limitations of grassroots, youth efforts, and bringing people in from out-of-state.
The simple fact is that there are more conservatives than liberals. If Democrats want to win, then they need to convince conservative-leaning folks to vote for our candidates. These recent entries are very discouraging because what Democrats need are people willing to engage conservatives in a friendly, non-condescending manner, and instead we are blaiming our leaders for running a "top-down" campaign. They only run a "top-down" campaign if we fail to take the initiative ourselves.
by ariely on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:28:21 PM EST

enlarge the pie (none / 0)

With 40% of eligible voters not even turning out, I've been astounded at the number of Democrats who think the way to win elections is to move "right" far enough to capture another 3% of those who are voting. It seems to me that the way to keep our convictions and win elections is to "enlarge the pie" - get some of those 40% to come out and vote for Democrats. We'd just need to give 5% of them a good reason to show up at the polls.

And the kind of grassroots organizing described here is exactly that solution.

by spandrel on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:31:23 PM EST

Good points, but... (none / 0)

The New York Times article was about the ACT ground effort in Ohio, which was completely separate from the Kerry effort. You have some good ideas, and perhpaps the Kerry ground effort was lacking in Ohio and elsewhere, but the Times article cannot be used to make that case.
by EvanstonDem on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 08:54:32 PM EST

I played a role in a 22 state event (none / 0)


Kerry waged a localized campaign.
   The GOP understood that votes can cross
   state and county lines; we're a diverse, mobile
   society - and if they hold Atlanta, for example,
   they can use it to get Florida. Kerry worked
   under the "iowa" model that you need to
   be there, all the time, saturating the
   airwaves, etc.

we never had that truly hardcore base, that worked
really hard to get things done. I considered my self
one of them, but I really didn't like alot of
people in the related campaigns, I considered
alot of them naive. I needed an almost military
style group. Still do.

Separating from the rest of the US would
be a solution. Let them all hang. I can't
think of a single reason why, for ex., Ohio
doesn't deserve to be cut loose right about now..

by turnerbroadcasting on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 09:36:16 PM EST

And so the backbiting and second-guessing (3.00 / 2)

begins. We knew it would.

Kerry is a decent man who ran a decent campaign. He just couldn't overcome the fearmongering on the Right.

by coldeye on Sun Nov 21, 2004 at 11:45:35 PM EST

Let's Not Rewrite History (none / 0)

[I posted this at Kos but I thought it'd be appropriate here as well--leo]

Kerry did have a grassroots organization.  Kerry did make use of House Parties.  Kerry did get the 'Net.  (Have a look at some of the shots.)

I get the feeling that some of the people who supported other candidates during the primaries and then who never really hooked up with the Kerry campaign, found no sign of grassroots (or even of life) -- from their vantage point as outsiders.

I've heard people talk of "Glory Days" on this blog -- meaning not the time immediately leading up to the election but instead an entire year earlier -- 2003 -- when Dean was active!

If some of these people had spent a bit more time with the official campaign -- particularly at the state level, they would have seen a whole lot more life than is being credited to it.

The notion that there was "no grassroots" and a reliance instead on 527's is a complete absurdity.  No one I ran into in the Kerry campaign was at all enthusiastic about the 527's.  The constant message, time and time again, was (not surprising) to hook up directly with KE04 in the various states.

It is amazing when I think of all the wonderful people involved in the Wisconsin campaign -- the only battleground state I knew firsthand -- for anyone to claim that grassroots organization wasn't a fundamental part of campaign activities.

Of course, Kerry could have made more effective use of every arrow in his quiver -- it was far from a perfect campaign.  We needed resources in places where we didn't have them.  We needed people not only in Cleveland but further out in Republican territory.  But no way would he or his campaign had gotten to where it did had he run some aloof shop intent only on draining people's money while letting others do the leg-work.  I know no one's claiming that -- but it's important to nip such a pernicious notion in the bud.

Independent Illinois Grassroots: IllinoisDemNet.com
by patachon on Mon Nov 22, 2004 at 01:23:05 AM EST

I agree (none / 0)

Kerry suffered from a lack of coordinated message, strategy & implementation. I always think of Rove as the spider at the center of a web: when he moved, thousands moved with him.

I also agree that Dems, by temperament, want more independence and individual input, but there must be some balance that can be reached between lockstep marching (a la Rove) and a vast disorganized mob. We had plenty of energy but it was unfocused and therefore, often wasted or misdirected.

I hope that Dean gets the DNC and gets a radical reorganization and philosophical shakeup begun immediately. In time to help out with local elections next fall, which would be a first testing ground.

We also need some creative thinking about our assets. The Repubs have their ultra conservative churches. What do we have? Universities is one obvious asset. There have to be others. We may end up with much more of a patchwork of networks, but that seems like natural Dem style! We also need some sort of ongoing outreach into (as susan said) purple communities/institutions. Doing good work, having conversations. This will help put a human face on Democrats and help counter the GOP line about liberal elitism.

I don't know much about how this works, but how can the DNC coordinate better for our Pres candidate in '08? How did the Repubs work out the relationship between Rove and Bush campaign chair Mehlman and the RNC/Gillespie? It sure seemed to function as a well-oiled machine.

I also agree about local faces having more effectiveness for spreading a message. But that matters most in the relatively relaxed early days of campaigning. When it comes down to last minute canvassing and GOTV and poll observers, I don't think it matters so much.

by sarany on Mon Nov 22, 2004 at 09:07:51 AM EST

let's hear more (none / 0)

I agree with folks who feel we (Democrats in general) did a good job getting out the vote and needed to do a better job of convincing people to vote Democratic.  I took a leave of absence from my job to work for MoveOn, and the crux of our strategy was to have neighbors talk to their neighbors (though of course we figured out ways to plug in out of state people - mainly by having them id which voters were Kerry supporters so people who lived in the state would know who to talk to).  And we were pretty decentralized, operating in red precincts and pretty much wherever we found people who were willing to knock on doors.  But in my opinion one weakness of our GOTV work was we focused on the base and didn't do enough to persuade people to vote for Kerry.

I'd be interested to hear more about your house parties proposal.  I work for a big non-profit so my interest is practical, and I bet a lot of other people would also be interested to hear more about the specifics of what we can do now as far as using house parties to organize people on the ground.

by Steve P on Mon Nov 22, 2004 at 06:27:26 PM EST


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