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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 21)

It's a day neither of us will ever forget!


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by alegre on Wed May 07, 2008 at 11:55:32 PM EST

Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 13)

It wonderful that your daughter could be a part of this historic event!


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:01:30 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 11)

Oh my goodness - you don't know the half of it.  Hillary talked about all of the issues folks care about - her Universal health care plan - fixing the economy - our children.  And the people there were PUMPED UP - we got on our feet and roared and cheered over and over and over and over again!  :)


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by alegre on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:04:18 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 9)

Thanks for a great diary.  I don't know how you do it. Like Hillary, you have great stamina.  

Katy seems so sweet.  Give her a hug from your virtual friend here when she wakes up!


I have yet to see what [Obama] has done to take the highest office in the land. He is no Martin Luther King. --Helen Thomas
by ghost 2 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:10:09 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 0)

Thanks and will do!  (fyi - that's just her "screen name")  :)


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by alegre on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:51:45 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 7)

Indeed, Hillary is the only candidate out there talking about REAL SOLUTIONS to REAL PROBLEMS. Shes' got the experience and tenacity to get the job done.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:11:26 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 2)

I respectfully disagree - the narrative is that he tals less substance, but their stumps had a similar amount of policy content. The article I read is old,  but this meme discourages me.

I joined up with Obama only after he showed me that he knew policy.


by Falsehood on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:17:58 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 7)

The difference is he knows the chapter headlines.  Hillary wrote the book.


by Tolstoy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:22:30 AM EST
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Thank you! (2.00 / 3)

That sums it up perfectly!


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by KnowVox on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:25:46 AM EST
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Not the Economics 101 Book. Or the (1.00 / 3)

Little Engine that Could, or Bob the Builder's book.

Based on her gas tax holiday bullshit.


by DemocraticLuntz on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:07:51 AM EST
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Re: Not the Economics 101 Book. Or the (2.00 / 7)

WTF is wrong with you?


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by alegre on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:10:50 AM EST
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Taking money away from building transit (1.25 / 4)

to actually give people an option to stop having to pay so much for gas to give to the oil company [who won't lower their prices] via a  gas holiday is the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

The windfall profit tax makes it not nearly as bad since it at least means the gov't still gets the money, but she's not spending that money on transit.


by DemocraticLuntz on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:14:49 AM EST
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Re: Taking money away from building transit (2.00 / 3)

false. obama campaign strategy is to deliberately misrepresent hillary's plan as the same as mccain's. hillary's plan changes the funding source for the highway fund, but doesn't affect the level of funding. but you knew that, of course. you're just following orders.


by campskunk on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:19:40 AM EST
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Re: Not the Economics 101 Book. Or the (none / 0)

Not to read too deeply, but he sounds a bit disgusted with your candidate. The long fight has left scars.

I hope to talk about that whenever they let me diary.


by Falsehood on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:14:56 AM EST
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Re: Not the Economics 101 Book. Or the (1.66 / 3)

It's little Luntz, Alegre.  Surely you remember him.


by Tolstoy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:27:31 AM EST
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Re: Not the Economics 101 Book. Or the (2.00 / 0)

i remembr hm well. he was a big participant in Yoshimi's thread trying to find out real-life informaton about Hillary supporters. he posted his picture.


by campskunk on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:22:24 AM EST
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I do. (2.00 / 0)

One of the nastiest anti-Hillary posters at DKos.  Now that the Clinton supporters have left or have retreated into silence, he and a few others find it necessary to come over here and disrupt a positive, heartfelt diary.

If this is unity, count me out.


by Radiowalla on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:44:26 AM EST
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alegre, no need for that (none / 0)

don't lose your cool.  This is a campaign to be the President of the United States... if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.


by froggyman on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:33:23 AM EST
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Re: Not the Economics 101 Book. Or the (2.00 / 3)

Poor little Luntz.  Bored without Hillary supporters to bash in your usual toxic habitat.  btw, it's way past your bedtime, kid.


by Tolstoy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:24:29 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (2.00 / 0)

I'm happy for alegre and her daughter... it sounds like they had a wonderful day.  

As to Tolstoy's comment, that's quite an amazing assessment of the two candidates.  I have a lot of respect for Hillary's accomplishments throughout her life.  She is truly a brilliant woman who deserves all the credit in the world for getting to where she is today.  Last summer I was all about her candidacy.  I remember thinking how great it would be if her and Barack were on the '08 ticket -- in any order.  However, for whatever reason, she stumbled early on, made some extraordinary missteps, and has clearly compromised her values to get this candidacy.  At her core, I still believe she's a good person.  But with some of the things she's done, and some of the positions she's taken during this campaign, it seems like she forgot what she was writing about and Barack has picked up with writing what's looking like a beautiful sequel.  Don't get me wrong, Hillary's book was great, but the story has changed and it goes on.  


by froggyman on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:30:17 AM EST
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Respectfully.... (2.00 / 5)

I agree with John Edwards: "I want to see more substance under [Obama's] rhetoric."


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by KnowVox on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:23:56 AM EST
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Re: Respectfully.... (2.00 / 1)

I'll agree with that. I wish his speech last night had contained more nuts and bolts - the media were too busy declaring him to talk about that.

Trust me, there have been more than a few times where his campaign and I differed...


by Falsehood on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:26:24 AM EST
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I admit that most of the time I have heard (2.00 / 0)

Obama is by watching all of the debates.  In the debates, he ALWAYS wanted to answer after Hillary or John Edwards so he could copycat their answers or he could play word games.  I did not see a single incident of intellectual leadership on Obama's part.  At the time, I was more of an Edwards supporter than Clinton but I was convinced that Clinton won every one of the debates except for one which Edwards won.

Obama always came off looking like somebody who was trying to figure out what to say based on what everyone else said.  Another thing that supports that opinion is how frequently he wanted to wait to vote on anything in the Senate until after Hillary voted and on how frequently he voted present or later said that he had pressed the wrong button when he "accidentally" voted the wrong way.

Finally, even his speeches are copied from others.  I don't recall the name right now but I have seen the videos on You Tube in which this other black guy says phrases and makes points in his speeches and then, at later dates, Obama uses the precise same phrases making the same points in his speeches.  It is highly entertaining and very enlightening about Obama's substance.


by macmcd on Thu May 08, 2008 at 10:01:45 AM EST
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Re: I admit that most of the time I have heard (none / 0)

"the other black guy" is Deval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts.

It's incredible how smears come back full circle...we're now back at "plagiarism".


by amiches on Thu May 08, 2008 at 10:47:04 AM EST
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Re: Obama & Patrick (2.00 / 0)

The truth is NOT a smear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08a Fc


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:16:09 PM EST
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Re: Obama & Patrick (1.00 / 0)

Okay, you think he's a black terrorist Muslim plagiarist right-wing Communist radical. We all get it. Who gives a shit?


by amiches on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:33:13 PM EST
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Re: Obama & Patrick (2.00 / 0)

Again, Obama followers attacking and not addressing he substance.  A lot like their candidate.


by anya109 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 08:10:40 PM EST
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Re: I admit that most of the time I have heard (none / 0)

Debates are not Obama's strength, as I think most supporters will state. I think there were some instances of intellectual leadership, like acting against Pakistan and talking with Osama, but I only remember those because of the ensuing controversies.

I think debate watching is highly colored by bias for everyone (including me), just like watching a sports match.

His switched votes were in Illinois, and very common, I think. Nothing to see their, except perhaps a lack of attention. I'd like to see soem backup for your assertion that he always waited for Clinton in the senate.

In regards to the "plagiarism," Patrick suggested the lines that Obama used, and Obama cited Patrick when he used them, but not always. That's an old controversy, but I think my memory is accurate.


by Falsehood on Thu May 08, 2008 at 03:02:50 PM EST
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Congrats (2.00 / 3)

Glad you and your daughter had an opportunity to meet with her.


by optimusprime on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:07:20 AM EST
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Re: Congrats (2.00 / 4)

Thanks!  So are we ;o)


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by alegre on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:11:15 AM EST
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Re: Congrats (2.00 / 3)

Hillary is simply amazing.  Is it OK to say she looks beautiful? I don't know how she it.  Taylor put up this press conference, and she simply shines:

<iframe height="339" width="425" src="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/24505208#24505208" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>


I have yet to see what [Obama] has done to take the highest office in the land. He is no Martin Luther King. --Helen Thomas
by ghost 2 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:43:04 AM EST
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Re: Congrats (2.00 / 3)

Does embed work??
Press conference, try this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/ 24505208#24505208
I have yet to see what [Obama] has done to take the highest office in the land. He is no Martin Luther King. --Helen Thomas
by ghost 2 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 12:46:08 AM EST
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Re: Congrats (2.00 / 2)

You are right. When she is rested... like all of us... she looks FABULOUS! I have always thought she was a pretty woman and that also goes for Chelsea!


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by kevin22262 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:06:11 AM EST
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Re: Congrats (2.00 / 2)

those msnbc videos don't embed, for some reason.

you can click on the link:

link


by campskunk on Thu May 08, 2008 at 09:34:19 AM EST
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Re: My Daughter and I Met Hillary Tonight! (none / 0)

Yes, everyone donate to help continue this cause and this historic race. Obama is backed by every media outlet, but Hillary has the experience and back ground.

I myself can no longer donate, having reached the $2,300 plateau, but many of you still can. You won't regret it. Please donate to www.hillaryclinton.com


by Folkwolf101 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 03:02:21 PM EST
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