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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (2.00 / 1)

Hey, gunowningliberal, how do you feel about Obama lying about his position on gun control?  And more importantly, do you really think the Republicans will let him get away with that in the general election?  

He is sooooo not electable....


by PlainWords on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:14:55 PM EST
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he's so unelectable, in fact, that he's winning this election.


"Don't let it end this way; tell them I said something." -the last words of Pancho Villa
by shef on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:17:55 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (2.00 / 1)

Maybe you're new to this country, so I'll explain:  the election is in November.  This is just the primaries.


by PlainWords on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:18:53 PM EST
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If Obama is so unelectable, what does that make Clinton who can't even win her own party's nomination?

So the logic here is that we should pick the person who can't win the playoff game to represent us at the super bowl?

Ah...sure...that makes sense...in the twilight zone.


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Wed May 07, 2008 at 10:00:56 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (1.66 / 3)

How about...independents and Republicans get to vote in November, too?

How about...November won't be a caucus?

How about America isn't 40% African-American?

Need I go further?


No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.
by hornplayer on Wed May 07, 2008 at 10:36:22 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (2.00 / 1)

Ah, once again caucuses and black people don't count for Clinton supporters.


by Aris Katsaris on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:24:15 AM EST
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America is 25% college educated (none / 0)

add that with the 20% black (or so), and you're starting to get RFK's coalition again.


His head is bowed. He thinks of men and kings. Yea, when the sick world cries, how can he sleep?
by RisingTide on Thu May 08, 2008 at 10:46:58 AM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (none / 0)

Yes because Obama isn't beating HRC among independents and Republicans don't hate her with the intensity of a thousand suns.


McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Thu May 08, 2008 at 01:10:07 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (none / 0)

How do I reply to you saying he lied about his position?  Proof?  Quotes?


by gunowningliberal on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:20:25 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (2.00 / 2)

All right, just this one time, I'll do your work for you:  http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics /2008/04/next_day_spin.html

But you can find these things out yourself.

For those too lazy to even follow the link, it says:

The Clinton campaign is hitting Obama for his remarks last night about handguns:

   Gibson: But do you still favor the registration of guns? Do still you favor the licensing of guns? And in 1996, you - your campaign issued a questionnaire. And your writing was on the questionnaire that said you favored a ban on handguns.

   Obama: No, my writing was not on that particular questionnaire, Charlie. As I've said, I have never favored an all-out ban on hand handguns

The Clinton campaign links to the questionnaire (http://www.politico.com/static/PPM43_080 328_obama_iviquestionaire_091096.html), courtesy of the Politico, to show that the senator's handwriting does appear. Well, yes, but other than one answer on endorsements, the rest of the questionnaire is typed out. Silly point, but sillier for Obama to dispute it.

Not so silly is that Obama did in fact favor a ban on handguns. From the questionnaire:

   35. Do you support state legislation to:

   a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes

   b. ban assault weapons? Yes

   c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes

Got to go now.  It's late.


by PlainWords on Wed May 07, 2008 at 07:27:23 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (none / 0)

Silly of you to not understand that he has stated repeatedly that a staff member filled out that questionnaire without his knowledge. As someone who has managed a few campaigns, I can tell you that you receive TONS of questionnaires from interest groups and you try to fill as many of them out as you can because they might be tied to activists in the district or fundraising prospects. But candidates rarely ever see most of the questionnaires, the staff generally have to keep informed enough on their boss's position to be able to answer the questions accurately. It's not unusual that a staff member might make a mistake- especially one that errs on the side of sucking up to the recipient of the questionnaire.


Senator Obama will be formally nominated on August 28, 2008 - the 45th Anniversary of Dr. King's "I Have A Dream Speech."
by brimur on Wed May 07, 2008 at 08:50:37 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (none / 0)

Shhh... too much facts.


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:48:16 AM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (none / 0)

Once again the Obama denial:  It's not my fault; I wasn't there; I didn't hear those sermons; I heard them but they meant something different than what they said; somebody else filled out the form (that my handwriting is on).

Oh please....


by PlainWords on Thu May 08, 2008 at 04:24:17 PM EST
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Re: A Comparison of NC Win With VA Win (none / 0)

You think the GOP will let HRC continue this (newly found) gimmic of somehow being the candidate of the common people, campaigning first against the elitist black guy raised in a single-parent household and then against the elitist guy who spent 6 years in a POW camp?  Putting out mailers that could pass for NRA fliers if it weren't for the gun that doesn't exist?  You really think the candidate who has spent the last two months rebranding herself as some sort of big-government conservative is the person to send to a general election in which the right has finally been exposed as morally bankrupt?

This fantasy where HRC is the "electable" candidate is fortunately now over.  She wouldn't have been a bad president at all, had she been able to beat McCain (and honestly I think any Democrat could do this, even Clinton), but it's simply not gonna happen.


by leftneck on Wed May 07, 2008 at 09:52:49 PM EST
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