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Re: Obama Leading Guam Caucuses (none / 0)

so according to BO supporters math then that means HRC and BO tied --- he did NOT win Guam.


by swissffun on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:06:55 PM EST

Re: Obama Leading Guam Caucuses (none / 0)

Sure. If Texas is a tie.


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by lizardbox on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:11:30 PM EST
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Re: Obama Leading Guam Caucuses (none / 0)

I thought a win was a win was a win.


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by SFValues on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:17:30 PM EST
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Re: Obama Leading Guam Caucuses (none / 0)

No, that's only true when Hillary wins. Or possibly (I hope not) if Obama gets a narrow win in NC. We will soon see.


by vcalzone on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:25:55 PM EST
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Re: Obama Leading Guam Caucuses (none / 0)

The difference with Texas is that Hillary supporters always say "Hillary won Texas" when they really mean "Hillary won the primary in Texas."  

In Guam, Obama will win the primary (the only election there) and they will tie in delegates.  It's a lot more correct to say Obama won Guam than to say Hillary won Texas.


by ProgressiveDL on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:44:17 PM EST
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Actually I am an Obama supporter and I DO think it's a tie. If they get the same number of delegates it's a tie. Popular vote means nothing in this primary process, just as it meant nothing for Al Gore in 2000. Those are the rules.


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by brimur on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:46:53 PM EST
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here's the logic: (none / 0)

delegates first.  If that's a tie, then popular vote metrics come after that when it comes to the technicality of who "won" the state.

In terms of the metrics that matter, Guam will be a tie, though with a distinct advantage to Obama because the Guam superdelegates are actually elected as well, and Obama's superdelegates won.

But after that, if we need to discuss who won Guam, then certainly, Obama carries it (unless something weird happens in Dededo).

The logic holds: after the Nevada caucuses, Obama was projected to win more delegates, so we in the Obama camp claimed a win.  In New Hampshire, the delegates were a tie, but Clinton won the popular vote, so Clinton won the state.  We're consistent.


by hekebolos on Sat May 03, 2008 at 05:02:53 PM EST
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Re: Obama Leading Guam Caucuses (none / 0)

Nor did she win New Hampshire.


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by nrafter530 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 05:41:28 PM EST
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