Do you work on trying to offend people, or does it just come naturally? It's so helpful when you call a candidate's supporters kids.
You know better than that. You're merely being disingenuous in this claim. Even if Obama supporters referred to each other as kids (I have never seen Obama supporters on mydd or dkos do this), that does not mean that it would be a reasonable idea to call Obama supporters kids when you are attacking them. I have noticed many Clinton supporters calling each other (and their candidate) girl, but I would never think to refer to Clinton supporters as girls and then try to excuse it by claiming that they call each other that.
linc, didn't you post approvingly on the "Grow up, people" diary only a few hours ago? Admittedly, you did say "you first."
Okay, that is fair. I think both campaigns did moderately shitty things, but nothing in this campaign compares to the stuff the Dems did to each other in 2004 or the stuff Bush did to McCain in 2000.
I really can't recall ever seeing Obama supporters refer to themselves as kids, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
No you were trying to be insulting, and you know that, same as if people opposing Hillary had called her "girl".
"I have, on many occasions, seen Obama fans refer to themselves as kids."
I haven't. But either way, as people have tried to explain you it doesn't matter. You don't get to decide that a potentially offensive name isn't offensive just because you've seen people refer to themselves as such.
I have seen many times see grown women refer to each other as girls, but that doesn't give any man the right to call "girl" a woman in order to disparage her.
You fail Feminism 101 if you don't know that. You fail Common Sense 101 if you don't see the parallel with that scenario.
Just say you didn't mean to be offensive and avoid doing it again, rather than argue that it's okay because you've seen a few-self references. That argument fails -- it's the very same argument used to justify the n-word from white racists "blacks themselves use it, why can't I", the d-word word from homophobes "lesbians themselves use it, why can't I", and the girl-word from sexists "women refer to themselves as such, why can't I".
Perhaps the "Childrens Army" as the media calls Obama's supporters would have been more suitable and kind. Our citizens are dying in Iraq and your highest thoughts concerning this election are your personal offense with being included in a pretty harmless term, "kids."
The over sensitivity reflects more of a need to argue than offering any useful dialog to the discussion taking place.
Jerome has it down and as many of us have been told that the youth are going to take over our party from the boomers and the elders can just die off because they are the most effectively manipulated by the media anyway. Can't figure out why the elders don't support Obama then since the media has been in the tank for him all along, except the bit of jag about Rev. Wright.
This race is not over and the disdain felt for Hillary supporters, which is voiced loudly and crudely, repeatedly on blogs by the Obama supporters, is real and has driven a huge wedge in the Democratic Party.
Just note those calling, not just for a victory by Obama, but for the Clintons to be driven from the party. Many of these nasty comments are coming from youth who don't know enough to run the party or what it takes to run the country but they are so certain that they will take over this party.
NOT. Reminds me of Fried Green Tomatoes and the "I have more insurance." In this case, "We have more money!" Towanda.
I fear no one is going to be very pleased with the results. There is no way Obama can win the GE and sugar coating it will not make it so. So we will endure, yet another, Republican administration and we won't have a country left. Our economy couldn't survive the idiocy of an Obama administration either.
Sadly a lot of the Obama supporters on blogs are former Nader supporters who were intent on nothing more than destroying the Democratic party anyway. Now they are just trying to complete that goal but to attempt to blame it on Clinton.
Not going to work. Go Hillary.
After having said the above I want to add that there are many Obama supporters who are upstanding citizens and friends who simply believe he is the best candidate for the future of our country but the folks who stand out are the troublemakers who focus on nothing else.
PaintyKat
