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You mean like Pro-Nafta Hillary????? (2.00 / 4)

The Clinton's sold the poor and the middle class down the river in the 1990s.  The supposed economic boom was built on speculation in the tech market and now housing market that crashed and burned.  While Bill's folksy accent fooled me before, NAFTA hasn't been good for PA.  I live here.  The area has been saved by the defense industry that has been propped up by horrid war.  Like the 90s the current economic state isn't sustainable.  The national debt will crush the working man.  Pharma has been hit by major reorganizations and structural adjustments due to law suits.  Ed Rendell's big plan?  Casinos!!!! Awesome...more service sector jobs that don't offer much hope for upward mobility or an avenue for jobs the future.

I'm sorry to take an aggressive tone but this kinda crap, sorry for those words, is useful to low information voters.  Peddle it elsewhere.


by Chavez100 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:25:30 AM EST
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Answer the question on healthcare... (none / 0)

You are trying to change the subject..


Universal healthcare IS a Democratic value
It's been defeated
Obama has the best $PIN that money can buy.
by architek on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:57:11 AM EST
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Hillary de-railed healthcare (2.00 / 1)

Healthcare reformed failed because of Bill and Hillary's ego....plain and simple.  I'm as progressive as one can be but you can't storm the Bastille with one pitchfork.  You need a movement of millions who will stand together and let the companies and dirty politicians know that their time is done.  Yet, they still haven't learned.  Instead of going to the people they are repeating the same mistakes of the 90s.

On topic??? Answer the question? Come'on.


by Chavez100 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:43:41 AM EST
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Maybe that will happen after people realize Obama (none / 0)

was deceiving them. But it won't be good for America or peoples faith in the current system. You could see a whole generation turn away from political activity. (which maybe is the whole point of this, I don't know. I wouldn't put it beyond them.)

And those demonstrations, riots (because of agents-provacateurs), etc, would be a Godsend to people on the extreme right who desperately want an excuse to declare a state of emergency and suspend democracy 'to preserve order'.

You know its true..


Universal healthcare IS a Democratic value
It's been defeated
Obama has the best $PIN that money can buy.
by architek on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 12:18:56 PM EST
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Re: You mean like Pro-Nafta Hillary????? (none / 0)

good post. nafta came late though, didn't it? the steel industry was on the skids before Deer Hunter (w/DeNiro) came out. whose fault was that? also, i hated to see three rivers stadium torn down. i recall the big fight: how was pittsburgh going to pay for two stadiums when they had not yet paid for one? btw, i love pittsburgh. i'm from the south and pittsburgh was the first big city i saw in my life. what wonderful bridges! go steelers!


by hueydixiepearl on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 12:28:15 PM EST
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Re: You mean like Pro-Nafta Hillary????? (none / 0)

Jim Cramer at PA last night said th old steel factory is being turned into a casino??!!!


ginaswo
by ginaswo on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:29:34 PM EST
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Re: You mean like Pro-Nafta Hillary????? (none / 0)

my family must have missed that in the 90s, that's when we made all our money and moved into the 'upper' classes the NIKEs like to say only support Obama

I remember very clearly the booming economy, budget surplus, and the worker and environmental protections written into NAFTA that Bush has refused to enforce


ginaswo
by ginaswo on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 01:28:42 PM EST
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